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theonedru
07-17-2011, 01:27 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/military-gay-couples-wont-enjoy-benefits-153144283.html

As the article states

in the eyes of the military the marriage will not be recognized and the couple will still be denied most of the benefits the Defense Department gives to heterosexual couples to ease the costs of medical care, travel, housing and other living expenses.

The Pentagon says the 1996 federal Defense of Marriage Act which defines marriage for federal program purposes as a legal union between a man and woman prohibits the Defense Department from extending those benefits to gay couples, even if they are married legally in certain states.

That means housing allowances and off-base living space for gay service members with partners could be decided as if they were living alone. Base transfers would not take into account their spouses. If two gay service members are married to each other they may be transferred to two different states or regions of the world.

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So these people volunteer to fight for this country yet are still spit on by the establishment, Can we really even think we are the greatest nation in the world when we keep doing this to our citizens, esp those who give so much of themselves for this country. Its time we throw all this garbage out the door and catch up to the rest of the modern world instead.

OnePimpTiger
07-17-2011, 01:39 PM
They are abiding by the DOMA...I know this is a constantly ongoing debate, but it would be kind of hard for the military to go against federal law.

And it mentions "even if they are married legally in certain states," but that is irrelevant. The military is a federal entity and therefore follows federal law.

theonedru
07-17-2011, 01:43 PM
The DOMA is an illegal and unconstitutional law to jam christian ideology down the throat of the nation. As such it is null and void.

andrewhoya
07-17-2011, 02:01 PM
the doma is an illegal and unconstitutional law to jam christian ideology down the throat of the nation. As such it is null and void.

+1

OnePimpTiger
07-17-2011, 04:19 PM
The DOMA is an illegal and unconstitutional law to jam christian ideology down the throat of the nation. As such it is null and void.

Until the SCOTUS declares it null and void or it is repealed, it's still the law of the land. I understand disagreeing with it, but you have to see that the military cannot go against it as things stand now. There are laws I think are unconstitutional, but that doesn't mean I can ignore them with no consequences.

Star_Cards
07-18-2011, 10:22 AM
The DOMA is an illegal and unconstitutional law to jam christian ideology down the throat of the nation. As such it is null and void.

+2

I also see that they are just following current law.

ensbergcollector
07-24-2011, 02:35 AM
until the scotus declares it null and void or it is repealed, it's still the law of the land. I understand disagreeing with it, but you have to see that the military cannot go against it as things stand now. There are laws i think are unconstitutional, but that doesn't mean i can ignore them with no consequences.

+1

gatorboymike
07-24-2011, 12:18 PM
As long as we're plus-one-ing...yes, the DOMA is an unconstitutional piece of right-wing fundie Christian dogma. But unfortunately, those in the service are nonetheless compelled to adhere to it until it can be repealed.

duane1969
07-24-2011, 05:42 PM
Expecting the military to use logic is niave. This is the same military that puts an automatic weapon in the hands of a person whom the government says is not even old enough to legally hold an open beer.

AUTaxMan
07-25-2011, 02:54 PM
Until the SCOTUS declares it null and void or it is repealed, it's still the law of the land. I understand disagreeing with it, but you have to see that the military cannot go against it as things stand now. There are laws I think are unconstitutional, but that doesn't mean I can ignore them with no consequences.

This is the only correct answer to this issue from a legal standpoint regardless of how anyone feels.