PDA

View Full Version : How do the SCF conservatives feel about Rick Perry?



pghin08
08-12-2011, 09:41 AM
Looks like he'll announce a bid for President tomorrow, and I think he's really going to give Romney a run for his money. What do you all think? Is he fiscally conservative enough? I remember him railing against the stimulus, but I'm pretty sure he used some of that money to balance his budget.

I know most conservatives will probably love his religious fervor and the fact that he's executed approximately 10 billion people since he took office (Texas loves executions...that and high school football).

As a liberal, I'm kind of teetering on him. He's not a guy with a good business background (i.e. Gary Johnson, Herman Cain, Romney), and I'm of course turned off by his staunch social conservatism. Even though this was a man who once supported Al Gore. The reason I don't mind Perry is that he's not Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin or Rick Santorum. There's limits to how destructive he would be (maybe).

Plus, he wanted Texas to secede from the US. That's kind of awesome. Go ahead Texas, just leave. Take Tony Romo with you.

gatorboymike
08-12-2011, 12:56 PM
He can be president of the Nation of Texas. At least, until it goes bankrupt and gets conquered by Mexico.

theonedru
08-12-2011, 05:15 PM
i would say what i think of him, unfortunatly that type of language is frowned upon here.

tutall
08-12-2011, 07:36 PM
I cant say I love the guy but at this point he is about the best alternative out there... I like that he has been able to add jobs in Texas through policy but also know it is much harder to do as president than as governor. I think the whole religion thing is blown out of proportion though... Other than gay marriage Im not sure how many other things can be viewed as his christianism taking over the white house.... I would like someone who has not been a lifer in politics to take a shot at it but the closest we have to that is Herman Cain who gets no play from the media and honestly unless he gets a big push in the near future is all but out of it. I cant stand Romney and Newt has too many demons in his closet... I think Bachmann has some decent ideas but has little voting record and has a mouth on her that makes her impossible to listen to and unelectable...

duane1969
08-12-2011, 08:22 PM
The jury is still out IMO, but I like this. He promised to balance the state budget without raising taxes and he did. We could use a little of that in Washington.

I don't care if he prays to God, Allah or a cockroach in a Mason jar under his desk, if he makes and keeps campaign promises then that is a +1 in my book.

OnePimpTiger
08-12-2011, 09:27 PM
He can be president of the Nation of Texas. At least, until it goes bankrupt and gets conquered by Mexico.

His "nation" is doing a lot better than our nation right now...

pghin08
08-14-2011, 01:46 PM
The jury is still out IMO, but I like this. He promised to balance the state budget without raising taxes and he did. We could use a little of that in Washington.

I don't care if he prays to God, Allah or a cockroach in a Mason jar under his desk, if he makes and keeps campaign promises then that is a +1 in my book.

1. He balanced the state budget with stimulus money.

2. You and I are on the same boat with the religion thing. To me, it's just as ridiculous for someone to say that Rick Perry would make Christianity the official religion of the US, and outlaw abortion and gay marriage; as it is for people to say Barack Obama is trying to subvert the American people and turn the US into a Muslim country. Okay, wait, maybe not QUITE as ridiculous, but still. What Perry worships is his own choice, not mine, he's free to have it and free to practice it.

duane1969
08-14-2011, 07:07 PM
1. He balanced the state budget with stimulus money.



In the end he kept his promise and balanced it without raising taxes. There are a lot of states that received stimulus money plus raised taxes and they are still in just as much trouble as they were before.

I give him credit for at least using the money to accomplish something. All they have done with stimulus money here in WV is repave roads and put up signs telling us that the funding came from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

mrveggieman
08-15-2011, 08:53 AM
I don't care if he prays to God, Allah or a cockroach in a Mason jar under his desk, if he makes and keeps campaign promises then that is a +1 in my book.


Although I would not vote for perry I do agree with your second point. However I wonder how many of you feel the same way about President Obama.

mrveggieman
08-15-2011, 08:53 AM
I don't care if he prays to God, Allah or a cockroach in a Mason jar under his desk, if he makes and keeps campaign promises then that is a +1 in my book.


Although I would not vote for perry I do agree with your second point. However I wonder how many of you feel the same way about President Obama.

mrveggieman
08-15-2011, 08:54 AM
Sorry for the duplicate posts.

pghin08
08-15-2011, 09:59 AM
In the end he kept his promise and balanced it without raising taxes. There are a lot of states that received stimulus money plus raised taxes and they are still in just as much trouble as they were before.

I give him credit for at least using the money to accomplish something. All they have done with stimulus money here in WV is repave roads and put up signs telling us that the funding came from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.


I understand that, but he railed against the stimulus, then used it to his political advantage. There were a couple governors who rejected the stimulus money. Balancing a budget with emergency stimulus (aka taxpayer) money isn't really a huge accomplishment to me. If someone gave you $100,000, would your wife congratulate you for not exceeding the family's yearly budget? Probably not.

I'm not saying that other people didn't do far worse, you're right, some states sucked up the stimulus at a rapid pace and were left with massive problems still. I just don't see Perry balancing the budget as a big deal. I'd trust a few other Republicans' financial savvy (Gary Johnson and maybe even Romney) before Perry's.

AUTaxMan
08-15-2011, 10:24 AM
Don't know enough to have formed an opinion.

tutall
08-15-2011, 10:14 PM
I understand that, but he railed against the stimulus, then used it to his political advantage. There were a couple governors who rejected the stimulus money. Balancing a budget with emergency stimulus (aka taxpayer) money isn't really a huge accomplishment to me. If someone gave you $100,000, would your wife congratulate you for not exceeding the family's yearly budget? Probably not.

I'm not saying that other people didn't do far worse, you're right, some states sucked up the stimulus at a rapid pace and were left with massive problems still. I just don't see Perry balancing the budget as a big deal. I'd trust a few other Republicans' financial savvy (Gary Johnson and maybe even Romney) before Perry's.

Here is my opinion on the stimulus... The pie was set and put into play... Congress set aside a dollar amount and divided it up between the states.... If a state chooses to not take the money it isnt like the money goes back in the pot and gets spent on something actually needed.... It would have been passed to another state... If I was in a state that rejected money I would be ticked... All the federal dollars you pay in suddenly end up in New Jersey to build a road that you could have benefitted from... Just my opinion but if Perry would have rejected the money the same people yelling now that he took and spent it would be yelling that he rejected money that could have helped his state.

pghin08
08-16-2011, 09:35 AM
Here is my opinion on the stimulus... The pie was set and put into play... Congress set aside a dollar amount and divided it up between the states.... If a state chooses to not take the money it isnt like the money goes back in the pot and gets spent on something actually needed.... It would have been passed to another state... If I was in a state that rejected money I would be ticked... All the federal dollars you pay in suddenly end up in New Jersey to build a road that you could have benefitted from... Just my opinion but if Perry would have rejected the money the same people yelling now that he took and spent it would be yelling that he rejected money that could have helped his state.


I agree with you 110% The money was there for a reason. I just don't think it should be seen as a big accomplishment (as I'm sure he'll champion it as) to balance the state budget using stimulus money. I think he absolutely did the right thing in using it though.

tutall
08-16-2011, 09:37 AM
I agree with you 110% The money was there for a reason. I just don't think it should be seen as a big accomplishment (as I'm sure he'll champion it as) to balance the state budget using stimulus money. I think he absolutely did the right thing in using it though.

In a case of the lesser of two evils though... I am glad he decided to use the money to balance the budget instead of most states who blew through it and are still in debt today.

pghin08
08-16-2011, 09:43 AM
In a case of the lesser of two evils though... I am glad he decided to use the money to balance the budget instead of most states who blew through it and are still in debt today.

Absolutely, I'll definitely give him that.

Star_Cards
08-17-2011, 09:31 AM
I knew nothing of this guy until really this past week and a half or so, but after seeing some video of him (and not really anything about his political opinions) I think we are looking at the GOP nomination. You can usually tell who will get the nod just by their look and demeanor. I've always thought that a lot of people vote with that in mind rather than the actual important stuff. Of course I could be wrong and he could have a crazy misstep or something but that's how I see it.