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sanfran22
09-27-2011, 08:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg5eSM5cJdU&feature=player_embedded

Even though I've heard they've been "pressured" to remove the ad. I guess it hits a little to close to home for this administration....:winking0071:

pghin08
09-28-2011, 09:46 AM
oh snap.

habsheaven
09-28-2011, 10:03 AM
Sounds like a low blow directed at the other AMERICAN car companies.

sanfran22
09-28-2011, 10:26 AM
Sounds like a low blow directed at the other AMERICAN car companies.

Particularly a Gov't owned one......:party0048:

jeeptrader
09-28-2011, 10:32 AM
Particularly a Gov't owned one......:party0048:
which are govt owned?

sanfran22
09-28-2011, 10:41 AM
which are govt owned?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/13/AR2011011306544.html

Star_Cards
09-28-2011, 10:52 AM
I saw this a week ago or so. I thought it was pretty smart. It's nice to see them turn down the bailout and have themselves in a better spot than the ones that took the bailout. I think the bail out helps companies keep the status quo rather than face the music and change out of the need to stay a viable company.

AUTaxMan
09-28-2011, 11:00 AM
Sounds like a low blow directed at the other AMERICAN car companies.

Low blow? I don't think so. You deal with the devil, you have to be willing to take the heat, especially from a competitor. Unlike the other American car companies, Ford stood on its own. If I were Ford, I would take every opportunity possible to remind the public that its competitors had to be bailed out by the government because they were failing businesses.

sanfran22
09-28-2011, 11:01 AM
I saw this a week ago or so. I thought it was pretty smart. It's nice to see them turn down the bailout and have themselves in a better spot than the ones that took the bailout. I think the bail out helps companies keep the status quo rather than face the music and change out of the need to stay a viable company.

Now in full disclosure I believe Ford did take a loan. But the didn't get bailed out and turn over stock to the gov't. Shady dealings going on there....

AUTaxMan
09-28-2011, 11:02 AM
Now in full disclosure I believe Ford did take a loan. But the didn't get bailed out and turn over stock to the gov't. Shady dealings going on there....

They also honored the commitments made to their investors, unlike GM and Chrysler.

sanfran22
09-28-2011, 11:04 AM
They also honored the commitments made to their investors, unlike GM and Chrysler.

Yes they did...Only American car I would buy.

jeeptrader
09-28-2011, 11:13 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/13/AR2011011306544.htmlwell...I see the date on that and it is 8 mos old...last I knew the UAW owned 55% of Chrysler:winking0071:

sanfran22
09-28-2011, 11:16 AM
well...I see the date on that and it is 8 mos old...last I knew the UAW owned 55% of Chrysler:winking0071:

Who owns the other 45%? If the Feds own .01% then it's a problem........ Also, who cares if its 8 months, 8 weeks, 8 years old. The Gov't has no business being in business.....Especially with all the conflict of interest issues that it entails...

jeeptrader
09-28-2011, 11:20 AM
ok...here is your later article compared to your link:

http://www.newser.com/story/57416/uaw-to-own-55-of-chrysler.html

sanfran22
09-28-2011, 11:23 AM
ok...here is your later article compared to your link:

http://www.newser.com/story/57416/uaw-to-own-55-of-chrysler.html

Lol, so unions now own a majority share in a car company....sweet (they don't have any ties to the gov't) and the "taxpayers" ,cough*GOV"T*cough, own some percent as well. Don't see your point, but I think you've made mine.....What about GM?

jeeptrader
09-28-2011, 11:26 AM
my point was simply that you were incorrect in saying that the government owned Chrysler...they don't....that was all i was getting at. It is ok if you don't like being corrected, but it needed to be said IMO. Have a great day!

sanfran22
09-28-2011, 11:29 AM
my point was simply that you were incorrect in saying that the government owned Chrysler...they don't....that was all i was getting at. It is ok if you don't like being corrected, but it needed to be said IMO. Have a great day!
I don't recall saying who the gov't owned. I likned an article about GM and Chrysler. Secondly, did the gov't own any of both??
That would mean they have say on day to day decisions. Then they sell off a part to the unions/fiat and that's ok? I think Fiat owns the majority now, so how did that happen?
They own 33% of GM now down from 61%. I guess you missed my point. They shouldn't own anything.

Here's a newer article that says that Fiat owns Chrysler now (sold by the gov't).
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-govt-ends-Chrysler-apf-2119025542.html?x=0&.v=4