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pwaldo
12-19-2011, 09:22 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/200341-poll-paul-leads-in-iowa-gingrich-slips-to-fourth


Ron Paul has opened up a six-point lead in Iowa, while Newt Gingrich has suffered a dramatic collapse, according to the latest Insider Advantage poll.

The Texas lawmaker had the support of 24 percent of those surveyed, followed by Mitt Romney at 18 percent, Rick Perry at 16 percent, Gingrich at 13 percent, Michele Bachmann at 10 percent, Jon Huntsman at 4 percent, and Rick Santorum at 3 percent.

This is the second poll released on Monday to show that Gingrich’s support in Iowa has evaporated.

According to a Public Policy Poll, Gingrich fell from first place to third place. Paul leads that poll by a margin of 23 percent to 20 percent over Romney. Gingrich polled at 14 percent in Iowa, according to PPP, down from 27 percent only two weeks ago.

pspstatus
12-20-2011, 12:06 AM
That's kind of surprising. I really thought Newt was about to be the big dog. Out of that class Ron Paul is the only one I'd even consider voting for.

OBOMBA
12-20-2011, 12:49 AM
ron paul talks a lot but i still have my doubts about anybody running for president

duane1969
12-20-2011, 09:52 AM
That poll is entirely unreliable. First it only polled 319 people, hardly a large enough number to carry any weight or be a true indicator. Second, 44% (142) of them were either Democrats or Independents.

A poll that was just on MSNBC yesterday showed Newt at 40%, Romney at 25% and Paul at 9%. That is more realistic.

mrveggieman
12-20-2011, 10:04 AM
I would love for Ron Paul to get the republican nod but the powers that be will never let that happen.

duane1969
12-20-2011, 10:18 AM
I would love for Ron Paul to get the republican nod but the powers that be will never let that happen.

You know, this isn't a very fair thing to say (just being honest), but my #1 issue with Paul is his age. He turns 77 in August which means he would be 81 by the end of his first term and would have to live to 85 to finish a second term if he got re-elected.

My dad is 78 so I speak from a bit of a position of knowledge. I don't know if a guy that age has the mental and physical ability to handle the rigors of being POTUS. Look at how much Obama has aged in just 3 years, look at George W. and Clinton after 8 years. Being POTUS is a 24/7 365 job and I just don't know if a guy that age can take it and live thru it.

pghin08
12-20-2011, 10:20 AM
That poll is entirely unreliable. First it only polled 319 people, hardly a large enough number to carry any weight or be a true indicator. Second, 44% (142) of them were either Democrats or Independents.

A poll that was just on MSNBC yesterday showed Newt at 40%, Romney at 25% and Paul at 9%. That is more realistic.

Give it a month and we'll see Newt dropping like a stone. It may not even take that long.

duane1969
12-20-2011, 10:31 AM
Give it a month and we'll see Newt dropping like a stone. It may not even take that long.

I agree. I don't see Newt as a viable candidate. I just don't see any evidence that Paul is anywhere near being a GOP front-runner like this poll suggest.

pghin08
12-20-2011, 10:59 AM
I'm just waiting to see how far the "Anybody but Romney" train goes. I think we're about two months away from seeing inanimate objects surging up the polls.

http://moneysavingmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/chicken-of-the-sea.jpg

Vote Chicken of the Sea Tuna in 2012! It still smells less fishy than Mitt Romney!

duane1969
12-20-2011, 11:35 AM
I'm just waiting to see how far the "Anybody but Romney" train goes. I think we're about two months away from seeing inanimate objects surging up the polls.

http://moneysavingmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/chicken-of-the-sea.jpg

Vote Chicken of the Sea Tuna in 2012! It still smells less fishy than Mitt Romney!

Probably has less grease in it's hair too...

pwaldo
12-22-2011, 08:38 PM
Another poll showing Ron Paul in the lead:

http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Vote-2012-Ron-Paul-Takes-Lead-in-KCRGGazette-Poll-135977303.html

andrewhoya
12-22-2011, 08:59 PM
Paul did well on taking strong stances and the right experience, and even better on a fourth factor: “cares about people.”

Really hoping he pulls this one out.

freethrowtommy
12-22-2011, 10:15 PM
Good... the rest of the group are a bunch of phonies...

I hope Paul can pull this off.

mrveggieman
12-23-2011, 04:35 PM
Good... the rest of the group are a bunch of phonies...

I hope Paul can pull this off.

It would sure be nice but i am not holding my breath

tsjct
12-23-2011, 07:11 PM
I hope Ron Paul wins the republican nomination so OBAMA can destroy him in the elections. Ron Paul in a debate with OBAMA would be the biggest disaster the Republican party has ever seen. I just need GOLD and Silver to Go sky high so i need OBAMA for one more term.

freethrowtommy
12-24-2011, 10:43 AM
I hope Ron Paul wins the republican nomination so OBAMA can destroy him in the elections. Ron Paul in a debate with OBAMA would be the biggest disaster the Republican party has ever seen. I just need GOLD and Silver to Go sky high so i need OBAMA for one more term.

You think that a Ron Paul debate with Obama would be a disaster? Why? Ron Paul is the most concise and consistent candidate in the Republican race. He would be able to hold his own more than anyone else in the party.

MadMan1978
12-24-2011, 01:39 PM
Ron Paul ? really?

change a tiger change their stripes?
I think not...

MadMan1978
12-24-2011, 01:42 PM
and he real question about Romney...
You were Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts
You ran from the state like a bandit after leaving office...

If you wish to see the Job he did here in Mass come and see!