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mrveggieman
01-11-2012, 09:50 AM
Your thoughts:

http://www.ajc.com/health/marijuana-doesnt-harm-lung-1298470.html

pghin08
01-11-2012, 10:04 AM
I've always thought it was safer than tobacco and alcohol. I don't do it, but I don't really look down on people that do.

mrveggieman
01-11-2012, 10:10 AM
I've always thought it was safer than tobacco and alcohol. I don't do it, but I don't really look down on people that do.


Agree. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, etc but I am not going to stand in judgment of what another consenting adult wants to do with his/her own body.

Star_Cards
01-11-2012, 10:13 AM
I heard on a report this morning that part of this was since pot smokers inhale a lot harder that there lungs are stronger than smokers.

This study makes sense to me as someone who smoked cigarettes once a week would more than likely have better lungs than an every day smoker. Most smokers smoke a a decent amount every day. I also bet it has to do with a lot of chemicals the stuff into cigarettes. If cigarettes were just made out of pure tobacco I wonder how much better off smokers would be as opposed to now.

duane1969
01-11-2012, 10:24 AM
Once a week...who smokes weed once a week?

I think that inhaling any smoke will have some form of adverse effects. However, marijuana lacks the toxic additives that tobacco has so logic dictates that less poison will equal less damage.

ensbergcollector
01-11-2012, 11:11 AM
i love the people who say things like "i don't judge people or look down on people who do"

my stance is, and will be, as long as it is illegal, I don't care if it isn't as bad for you as cigarettes. While I won't judge, I will have a changed opinion of someone who purposefully, intentionally, and repeatedly breaks the law because they think the law is stupid.

pghin08
01-11-2012, 11:34 AM
i love the people who say things like "i don't judge people or look down on people who do"

my stance is, and will be, as long as it is illegal, I don't care if it isn't as bad for you as cigarettes. While I won't judge, I will have a changed opinion of someone who purposefully, intentionally, and repeatedly breaks the law because they think the law is stupid.

It all boils down to how you feel about the legalization of marijuana.

ensbergcollector
01-11-2012, 12:10 PM
It all boils down to how you feel about the legalization of marijuana.

but for me it doesn't. i could be 100% behind the legalization of marijuana. But until it is made legal, my attitude toward it doesn't change its legal status.

there is no other illegal act that people take this attitude with. Even speeding, which most people admit to doing. I might think a speed limit is too low. Doesn't mean I can speed anytime I want because I think the speed limit is stupid.

habsheaven
01-11-2012, 12:37 PM
It all boils down to how you feel about the legalization of marijuana.

No it doesn't. It all boils down to the fact you are supporting the criminal element of every nieghbourhood in the country.

mrveggieman
01-11-2012, 12:51 PM
No it doesn't. It all boils down to the fact you are supporting the criminal element of every nieghbourhood in the country.


Some people who smoke bud are criminals. Some people who eat at wendys are criminals just like some people who watch football are criminals. My point is smoking mary jane does not neccessaliry make you a bad person. There are worst things that so called criminals can do with their time and I think that it is stupid that the police are wasting their time and recources and such trivial matters as what a consenting adult wants to smoke. Again I am not encouraging anyone to smoke or not to smoke I just wish the gov't would worry about the important issues.

habsheaven
01-11-2012, 12:55 PM
Some people who smoke bud are criminals. Some people who eat at wendys are criminals just like some people who watch football are criminals. My point is smoking mary jane does not neccessaliry make you a bad person. There are worst things that so called criminals can do with their time and I think that it is stupid that the police are wasting their time and recources and such trivial matters as what a consenting adult wants to smoke. Again I am not encouraging anyone to smoke or not to smoke I just wish the gov't would worry about the important issues.

You missed my point entirely. I am not calling anyone who smokes drugs a criminal. I am saying the money these smokers spend to buy the drugs eventually makes its way to organized crime of some degree.

ensbergcollector
01-11-2012, 01:03 PM
Some people who smoke bud are criminals. Some people who eat at wendys are criminals just like some people who watch football are criminals. My point is smoking mary jane does not neccessaliry make you a bad person. There are worst things that so called criminals can do with their time and I think that it is stupid that the police are wasting their time and recources and such trivial matters as what a consenting adult wants to smoke. Again I am not encouraging anyone to smoke or not to smoke I just wish the gov't would worry about the important issues.

incorrect. as long as marijuana is illegal, all people who smoke it are criminals.

mrveggieman
01-11-2012, 01:05 PM
You missed my point entirely. I am not calling anyone who smokes drugs a criminal. I am saying the money these smokers spend to buy the drugs eventually makes its way to organized crime of some degree.


I feel what you are saying but remember that most of us on here live in the united states which is ran by the biggest criminal organization of all time the federal gov't. So no matter what you do just be living here you are supporting criminals.

mrveggieman
01-11-2012, 01:07 PM
incorrect. as long as marijuana is illegal, all people who smoke it are criminals.


Jesus was arrested and convicted of crimes back in his day. Do you consider him a criminal?

ensbergcollector
01-11-2012, 01:21 PM
Jesus was arrested and convicted of crimes back in his day. Do you consider him a criminal?

seriously? that is your response? Are you really comparing Jesus to someone who smokes pot?

since when did our opinion of the law determine whether we have to follow it or not? This is my problem with people who support marijuana. the ATTITUDE. The attitude that because I think the law is stupid, I don't have to follow it. that is insane logic.

habsheaven
01-11-2012, 01:28 PM
seriously? that is your response? Are you really comparing Jesus to someone who smokes pot?

since when did our opinion of the law determine whether we have to follow it or not? This is my problem with people who support marijuana. the ATTITUDE. The attitude that because I think the law is stupid, I don't have to follow it. that is insane logic.

Actually, it is not that insane. That is how you get laws changed in most cases. It's called civil disobedience.

habsheaven
01-11-2012, 01:31 PM
I feel what you are saying but remember that most of us on here live in the united states which is ran by the biggest criminal organization of all time the federal gov't. So no matter what you do just be living here you are supporting criminals.

I do not share your pessimistic view of the world. I prefer to separate the REAL criminals from the Politicians.

mrveggieman
01-11-2012, 01:32 PM
seriously? that is your response? Are you really comparing Jesus to someone who smokes pot?

since when did our opinion of the law determine whether we have to follow it or not? This is my problem with people who support marijuana. the ATTITUDE. The attitude that because I think the law is stupid, I don't have to follow it. that is insane logic.


If someone feels in their heart that a law is unjust they have a moral obligation to ignore it. However that being said if you are willing to break the law be willing to accept the consequences. Weed does not mean anything to me so I'm not going to break any laws over it. What Jesus/MLK/Gandi/etc did was lay down their lives for our personal freedoms so that is something noble and I am in no way comparing a pot smoker to any of them.

pwhite81
01-11-2012, 01:34 PM
You missed my point entirely. I am not calling anyone who smokes drugs a criminal. I am saying the money these smokers spend to buy the drugs eventually makes its way to organized crime of some degree.


Not so much. Most weed dealers I know spend their $ on video games

habsheaven
01-11-2012, 01:44 PM
Not so much. Most weed dealers I know spend their $ on video games

Huh??? Why is it so hard to get a simple point across around here?

Think about it for a second. Where does the guy selling the drugs on the street corner get his supply from? Does he not have to pay for his supply?

mrveggieman
01-11-2012, 01:49 PM
I do not share your pessimistic view of the world. I prefer to separate the REAL criminals from the Politicians.


That is an impossible task my friend.

duane1969
01-11-2012, 02:04 PM
So you support these laws just because they are laws and think people should be punished for breaking them? <br />
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- In Ohio it is illegal for anyone to be arrested on Sunday or the 4th of July. Should...

duane1969
01-11-2012, 02:07 PM
Huh??? Why is it so hard to get a simple point across around here?

Think about it for a second. Where does the guy selling the drugs on the street corner get his supply from? Does he not have to pay for his supply?

Depends on the dealer. Here in WV growing weed is a pretty common thing. A few years back a guy in my hometown was growing it along his driveway. He hung red Christmas bulbs on it to make it look like tomato plants. If his neighbor hadn't reported him he would have never been caught (cops drove by it numerous times a day LOL).

habsheaven
01-11-2012, 02:13 PM
Depends on the dealer. Here in WV growing weed is a pretty common thing. A few years back a guy in my hometown was growing it along his driveway. He hung red Christmas bulbs on it to make it look like tomato plants. If his neighbor hadn't reported him he would have never been caught (cops drove by it numerous times a day LOL).

Okay, so he would be the "local" criminal element. Regardless, most drugs being sold can be traced back to much larger suppliers affiliated with organized crime.

duane1969
01-11-2012, 02:16 PM
Okay, so he would be the "local" criminal element. Regardless, most drugs being sold can be traced back to much larger suppliers affiliated with organized crime.

I agree. I was being facetious :)

duwal
01-11-2012, 02:17 PM
Some people who smoke bud are criminals. Some people who eat at wendys are criminals just like some people who watch football are criminals. My point is smoking mary jane does not neccessaliry make you a bad person. There are worst things that so called criminals can do with their time and I think that it is stupid that the police are wasting their time and recources and such trivial matters as what a consenting adult wants to smoke. Again I am not encouraging anyone to smoke or not to smoke I just wish the gov't would worry about the important issues.


smoking marijuana may not make you a bad person but it does make that person a drug user. Just like any other drug it impairs the user from either good judgment and/or motor skills that they would have if they were clean

ensbergcollector
01-11-2012, 03:07 PM
i am amazed at the logic some people use to defend the use of illegal drugs. A few things:

first of all, the definition of criminal is "guilty of crime." It is illegal to smoke marijuana. Therefore, if you use it, you are a criminal. Not sure why that is up for debate.

secondly, veggie - if you disagree with a law you have the "moral obligation" to ignore it? Where in the world did you get that from? If we were talking about civil rights or something sure, but the selfish desire to use illegal drugs? So, if I think speed limits are wrong I am "morally obligated" to ignore them? Way to go replacing "be selfish" with "moral obligation.

lastly - duane - are you really comparing the knowing disregard for a law that will land you in jail with the unknowing list of goofy laws that would never be cited or used to fine or arrest someone? I get your point but you can't make that comparison. I will allow the speeding comparison but even that is thin.

mrveggieman
01-11-2012, 03:38 PM
i am amazed at the logic some people use to defend the use of illegal drugs. A few things:

first of all, the definition of criminal is "guilty of crime." It is illegal to smoke marijuana. Therefore, if you use it, you are a criminal. Not sure why that is up for debate.

secondly, veggie - if you disagree with a law you have the "moral obligation" to ignore it? Where in the world did you get that from? If we were talking about civil rights or something sure, but the selfish desire to use illegal drugs? So, if I think speed limits are wrong I am "morally obligated" to ignore them? Way to go replacing "be selfish" with "moral obligation.

lastly - duane - are you really comparing the knowing disregard for a law that will land you in jail with the unknowing list of goofy laws that would never be cited or used to fine or arrest someone? I get your point but you can't make that comparison. I will allow the speeding comparison but even that is thin.


As far as moral obligations I was referring to the works of Jesus/MLK/Ghandi etc. If someone is that adamant about being able to smoke weed and are ok with risking arrest over it then more power to them. That is there form of civil disobedence. Not saying that I would do it or encourage anyone to follow suit but the person is following their own conscience. Also I dont see anything selfish with smoking. If you are smoking in the privacy and comfort of your own home and not near anyone who dosent want the second hand smoke then who are hurting besides themself?

ensbergcollector
01-11-2012, 03:45 PM
As far as moral obligations I was referring to the works of Jesus/MLK/Ghandi etc. If someone is that adamant about being able to smoke weed and are ok with risking arrest over it then more power to them. That is there form of civil disobedence. Not saying that I would do it or encourage anyone to follow suit but the person is following their own conscience. Also I dont see anything selfish with smoking. If you are smoking in the privacy and comfort of your own home and not near anyone who dosent want the second hand smoke then who are hurting besides themself?

gotcha on the moral deal. sorry for my misunderstanding. as for the selfish comment, it wasn't so much the act of smoking as the attitude that "my opinion about the law is more important the any law itself. i want to smoke so I should be allowed to even if the law says I can't."

duwal
01-11-2012, 03:47 PM
As far as moral obligations I was referring to the works of Jesus/MLK/Ghandi etc. If someone is that adamant about being able to smoke weed and are ok with risking arrest over it then more power to them. That is there form of civil disobedence. Not saying that I would do it or encourage anyone to follow suit but the person is following their own conscience. Also I dont see anything selfish with smoking. If you are smoking in the privacy and comfort of your own home and not near anyone who dosent want the second hand smoke then who are hurting besides themself?


thats like saying its okay if you're shooting up heroin or smoking crack in the privacy of your own home because you aren't hurting anyone besides yourself? That just doesn't make sense

mrveggieman
01-11-2012, 03:58 PM
thats like saying its okay if you're shooting up heroin or smoking crack in the privacy of your own home because you aren't hurting anyone besides yourself? That just doesn't make sense


I'm all for personal freedoms and consenting adults she be able to do as they please. However if a consenting adult does not know when to say when and someone gets hurt because of their actions they should be punished as if they committed the action when they were sober.

gladdyontherise
01-11-2012, 09:42 PM
Marijuana is and should stay illegal in my opinion, and for the record, I do look down upon anyone/everyone who uses it. Including family members.

duwal
01-11-2012, 11:58 PM
Marijuana is and should stay illegal in my opinion, and for the record, I do look down upon anyone/everyone who uses it. Including family members.


I agree and friends too, I've called the police before to complain about smelling pot coming from their place. One of these days hopefully they'll learn. Its no different than looking down at someone who is slobbering drunk and doesn't know their limit

BGT Masters
01-12-2012, 01:19 AM
Marijuana is and should stay illegal in my opinion, and for the record, I do look down upon anyone/everyone who uses it. Including family members.

Glad I'm not the only one.

sublime420
01-16-2012, 12:20 AM
I agree and friends too, I've called the police before to complain about smelling pot coming from their place. One of these days hopefully they'll learn. Its no different than looking down at someone who is slobbering drunk and doesn't know their limit

You've called the police on your friends?! for weed?!?!
I honestly don't understand that. It's something you disagree with. Keep it to yourself. Also how is it the same as someone who is "slobbering drunk"? Taking a couple bong hits is like having a couple shots. One just happens to be frowned upon from years of propaganda and the other is shoved in your face everywhere you look. I just think the hypocracy of the whole situation is what stings the most.

BGT Masters
01-16-2012, 12:41 AM
One is illegal and one isn't. Pretty simple answer. Personally even though I do drink, they could do away with alcohol, tobacco and marijuana and I could careless. My life isn't dependent on any of them and I wouldn't skip a beat.