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AUTaxMan
03-08-2012, 12:57 PM
This video really is chilling. Our Secretary of Defense thinks that the President needs an international legal basis, NOT Congressional approval, to engage the military in operations of national defense, and would then inform Congress whether or not he would seek Congress's permission to act.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/07/Shocking%20Defense%20Secretary%20Says%20Internatio nal%20Permission%20Trumps%20Congressional%20Permis sion

duane1969
03-08-2012, 01:00 PM
Just a few more months and Panetta can vacate the premiseses with his boss and take his new world order ideas with him.

mrveggieman
03-08-2012, 01:04 PM
Just a few more months and Panetta can vacate the premiseses with his boss and take his new world order ideas with him.


I don't know that much about Panetta but his boss isn't going anywhere. Too bad that previous guy didn't get internationl permission before he started his wasteful and unneccessary Iraq war.

habsheaven
03-08-2012, 02:26 PM
This video really is chilling. Our Secretary of Defense thinks that the President needs an international legal basis, NOT Congressional approval, to engage the military in operations of national defense, and would then inform Congress whether or not he would seek Congress's permission to act.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/07/Shocking%20Defense%20Secretary%20Says%20Internatio nal%20Permission%20Trumps%20Congressional%20Permis sion

You may want to re-visit that video. He clearly states, that in matters of NATIONAL DEFENSE, the President has the power under the Constitution to take any actions needed to DEFEND the country. His talk regarding an "international legal basis" being wanted relates to other operations.

AUTaxMan
03-08-2012, 03:05 PM
You may want to re-visit that video. He clearly states, that in matters of NATIONAL DEFENSE, the President has the power under the Constitution to take any actions needed to DEFEND the country. His talk regarding an "international legal basis" being wanted relates to other operations.

He referred to the Libyan operation as an operation of national defense.

tsjct
03-08-2012, 05:49 PM
Why would our IDIOT President need to get International approval when HE BOMBED Libya without our own Congress approval.

INTIMADATOR2007
03-08-2012, 07:17 PM
Congress is becoming more and more irrelavent everyday . Obama has stated many times he will do whatever he has to do to go around congress. We have a dictator not a president !

*censored*
03-09-2012, 09:37 AM
Congress is becoming more and more irrelavent everyday . Obama has stated many times he will do whatever he has to do to go around congress. We have a dictator not a president !

You act like this is something new.

duane1969
03-09-2012, 09:53 AM
I don't know that much about Panetta but his boss isn't going anywhere. Too bad that previous guy didn't get internationl permission before he started his wasteful and unneccessary Iraq war.

Dude, seriously, you need to be able to have a converstaion with out falling back to the "Bush did it" defense.

We get it. In your eyes Obama is the perfection of infallible humanity. He pees wine, poops gold and sweats diamonds. When he speaks all you hear is trumpets and angels singing. But this whole thing of constantly running to his defense with an anti-Bush comment has gotten beyond silly and has become just downright lame.

mrveggieman
03-09-2012, 10:05 AM
Dude, seriously, you need to be able to have a converstaion with out falling back to the "Bush did it" defense.

We get it. In your eyes Obama is the perfection of infallible humanity. He pees wine, poops gold and sweats diamonds. When he speaks all you hear is trumpets and angels singing. But this whole thing of constantly running to his defense with an anti-Bush comment has gotten beyond silly and has become just downright lame.


I'm just going with the flow. Everyone wants to blame President Obama and his wife from everything the Kennedy assisination to the crucification of Christ why can bush get some of the love too? Seriously though the guy suggested that the president (currently obama but last time I checked all presidents must follow the same laws) should get international approval before starting a war, so it would apply to gwb if he was in the seat as well. Mabey if bush would have had to get international permission before starting a wasteful and illegal war in iraq we might not have been in some of the mess that we are in now. Can I say that or should I not talk about everyone's messiah George W "The Chosen One" Bush?

tsjct
03-09-2012, 12:02 PM
I'm just going with the flow. Everyone wants to blame President Obama and his wife from everything the Kennedy assisination to the crucification of Christ why can bush get some of the love too? Seriously though the guy suggested that the president (currently obama but last time I checked all presidents must follow the same laws) should get international approval before starting a war, so it would apply to gwb if he was in the seat as well. Mabey if bush would have had to get international permission before starting a wasteful and illegal war in iraq we might not have been in some of the mess that we are in now. Can I say that or should I not talk about everyone's messiah George W "The Chosen One" Bush?

GOLD and SILVER up again today!! I am now VOTING 4 more years of Obama. I am in the Oil/Gas business and OIL is over $106. I told my wife i am Honestly voting for OBAMA this year. He will make us more and more money over the next 4 years. I am really starting to like this guy. This is not a Sarcastic response as i am serious. I never thought i would say RUN OB RUN but i am now.

pghin08
03-09-2012, 12:06 PM
GOLD and SILVER up again today!! I am now VOTING 4 more years of Obama. I am in the Oil/Gas business and OIL is over $106. I told my wife i am Honestly voting for OBAMA this year. He will make us more and more money over the next 4 years. I am really starting to like this guy. This is not a Sarcastic response as i am serious. I never thought i would say RUN OB RUN but i am now.

You know that Obama doesn't control oil prices, right?

tsjct
03-09-2012, 12:10 PM
You know that Obama doesn't control oil prices, right?

Yep but since he has been in office its gone SKY HIGH and he is ANTI drilling in the US so it will only go higher. Love his green agenda as it will only make my family more money.

AUTaxMan
03-09-2012, 12:14 PM
He could do some things to help with oil prices a little. For instance, the American Petroleum Institute says that we could be energy independent in 30 years. Obama's not exactly leading the charge...

tsjct
03-09-2012, 12:15 PM
The more he invests in green jobs, Electric cars, Etc the higher Oil goes. I am really thinking this Idiot can make me more $$$$.:thumb:

AUTaxMan
03-09-2012, 12:19 PM
The more he invests in green jobs, Electric cars, Etc the higher Oil goes. I am really thinking this Idiot can make me more $$$$.:thumb:

Yeah, but he's also going to tax the hell out of you, so it will all even out financially.

tsjct
03-09-2012, 01:35 PM
Yeah, but he's also going to tax the hell out of you, so it will all even out financially.

I think the Republicans get more seats so they will not pass anything he wants. Just 4 yrs of nothing imo. But the oil/gas markets will go crazy over the next 4 yrs. I am really liking this IDIOT in office.

pghin08
03-09-2012, 02:10 PM
I think the Republicans get more seats so they will not pass anything he wants. Just 4 yrs of nothing imo. But the oil/gas markets will go crazy over the next 4 yrs. I am really liking this IDIOT in office.

Unfortunately, I agree with you here. I think the Congress will essentially remain the same, maybe a few more Republicans, but they'll definitely maintain control of the House.