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steelers#1fan
03-25-2012, 04:32 PM
Student shot dead at Mississippi State University

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Yahoo! gave the description of the murderers, but no mention of the victim. Hmmm, can't wait to see how this story plays out.





STARKVILLE, Mississippi (Reuters) - A student was shot to death at a Mississippi State University residence hall late on Saturday night, authorities said, adding that three suspects remained at large.
The unidentified student was reported shot at Evans Hall shortly after 11 p.m. local time, university officials said.
Authorities described the suspects as three black males who fled the hall in a late model blue Crown Victoria car.
There were no immediate reports of further injuries and the university is operating on "emergency" status, officials said.

Student shot and killed at Mississippi State dorm


Published March 25, 2012
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FOX news made NO mention of the killers race or the victims, as was the case in all the articles I read on this senseless crime.

STARKVILLE, Miss. Mississippi State University officials say the fatal shooting of a 21-year-old student in a campus dorm appears to be isolated.
University president Mark Keenum said Sunday in a statement on the school's website that there was no indication that there was a danger to others. Keenum says the killing of 21-year-old John Sanderson of Madison, Miss., was the first time a student had been shot on the campus.
Authorities have said three men suspected in the Saturday night shooting drove away from the building in a blue Ford Crown Victoria. As of late Sunday morning, no arrests had been made.
The campus of about 20,000 students is located in a rural area in the northeastern part of the state, about 125 miles northeast of Jackson.



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*censored*
03-26-2012, 12:33 AM
"FOX news made NO mention of the killers race or the victims, as was the case in all the articles I read on this senseless crime."

The question being, why does it matter? As a journalist, I can tell you that unless race is in some way pertinent to the story, there's no need for it to be in.

steelers#1fan
03-26-2012, 07:04 AM
Until we all wake up and see that the media is fueling the fire on racism, there will always be a wedge dividing the races. If this were the other way around the headlines would read "Three white males murder black college student".


"FOX news made NO mention of the killers race or the victims, as was the case in all the articles I read on this senseless crime."

The question being, why does it matter? As a journalist, I can tell you that unless race is in some way pertinent to the story, there's no need for it to be in.

duane1969
03-26-2012, 09:26 AM
This isn't news. A white guy was shot to death by black guys so it will not be any more news than what it is now. If it had happened on the street instead of on a college campus we wouldn't have even heard of it.

mrveggieman
03-26-2012, 09:32 AM
Student shot dead at Mississippi State University

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Yahoo! gave the description of the murderers, but no mention of the victim. Hmmm, can't wait to see how this story plays out.





STARKVILLE, Mississippi (Reuters) - A student was shot to death at a Mississippi State University residence hall late on Saturday night, authorities said, adding that three suspects remained at large.
The unidentified student was reported shot at Evans Hall shortly after 11 p.m. local time, university officials said.
Authorities described the suspects as three black males who fled the hall in a late model blue Crown Victoria car.
There were no immediate reports of further injuries and the university is operating on "emergency" status, officials said.

Student shot and killed at Mississippi State dorm


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FOX news made NO mention of the killers race or the victims, as was the case in all the articles I read on this senseless crime.

STARKVILLE, Miss. Mississippi State University officials say the fatal shooting of a 21-year-old student in a campus dorm appears to be isolated.
University president Mark Keenum said Sunday in a statement on the school's website that there was no indication that there was a danger to others. Keenum says the killing of 21-year-old John Sanderson of Madison, Miss., was the first time a student had been shot on the campus.
Authorities have said three men suspected in the Saturday night shooting drove away from the building in a blue Ford Crown Victoria. As of late Sunday morning, no arrests had been made.
The campus of about 20,000 students is located in a rural area in the northeastern part of the state, about 125 miles northeast of Jackson.



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So again who is you beef with, fox news? If they didn't see the need to make it a race issue then why are you making it into one?

duane1969
03-26-2012, 09:32 AM
"FOX news made NO mention of the killers race or the victims, as was the case in all the articles I read on this senseless crime."

The question being, why does it matter? As a journalist, I can tell you that unless race is in some way pertinent to the story, there's no need for it to be in.

Yet the Trayvon Martin headline reads like this...

Trayvon Martin: Probe into killing of Florida teenager.
The US Department of Justice has announced an investigation into the shooting of an unarmed black teenager in Florida in February.

mrveggieman
03-26-2012, 09:38 AM
Yet the Trayvon Martin headline reads like this...

Trayvon Martin: Probe into killing of Florida teenager.
The US Department of Justice has announced an investigation into the shooting of an unarmed black teenager in Florida in February.


Mabey because we all know who the shooter is but there have been no arrests. Does anyone know who the shooters are in the Mississippi case besides a vauge description.

duane1969
03-26-2012, 11:02 AM
Mabey because we all know who the shooter is but there have been no arrests. Does anyone know who the shooters are in the Mississippi case besides a vauge description.

If a black person was shot by three whites and people saw it happen but nobody had been caught yet the news would still have already made a race issue of it. Whether or not the suspects have been caught is irrelevant.

mrveggieman
03-26-2012, 11:08 AM
If a black person was shot by three whites and people saw it happen but nobody had been caught yet the news would still have already made a race issue of it. Whether or not the suspects have been caught is irrelevant.


I think that ya'll want to turn these murders into a race issue. If someone kills a child and goes unpunished that is a travesty of justice regardless of race. Look at the case from last summer when that woman killed her baby and covered it up. Both the mother and child were white and it was still a miscarriage of justice. I'm not too familiar with the case in mississippi but I'm sure that law enforcement down there will be assisted by other "groups" as they search for "suspects" if you know what I mean.

angel0430
03-26-2012, 02:32 PM
This isn't news. A white guy was shot to death by black guys so it will not be any more news than what it is now. If it had happened on the street instead of on a college campus we wouldn't have even heard of it.

That is so true.

lloydr04
03-26-2012, 02:34 PM
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lloydr04
03-26-2012, 02:35 PM
Not suprised by some of these responses by a few grade f posters

pspstatus
03-26-2012, 10:13 PM
Unbelievable man. Anytime a crime is committed by a black person towards a white person you people are just so quick to try and make the white race seem victimized. Personally I think you want to look and feel oppressed to justify your distaste for certain races.

shrewsbury
03-26-2012, 10:26 PM
If someone kills a child and goes unpunished that is a travesty of justice regardless of race.

:):

people killing people is the issue, you can use any excuse you want, race, social status, economic status, gender, sexual preference, but that is just the cover for a murderer

pspstatus
03-26-2012, 10:28 PM
:):

people killing people is the issue, you can use any excuse you want, race, social status, economic status, gender, sexual preference, but that is just the cover for a murderer

True True.

cbuskstwar
03-26-2012, 11:03 PM
Veggieman will blame a white man if a latino commits the crime, no point in responding to his banter.

ensbergcollector
03-26-2012, 11:04 PM
I think that ya'll want to turn these murders into a race issue. If someone kills a child and goes unpunished that is a travesty of justice regardless of race. Look at the case from last summer when that woman killed her baby and covered it up. Both the mother and child were white and it was still a miscarriage of justice. I'm not too familiar with the case in mississippi but I'm sure that law enforcement down there will be assisted by other "groups" as they search for "suspects" if you know what I mean.

are you serious? the black panthers and al sharpton have made sure that trayvon's murder is only a race issue. I agree that no murder should be turned into a race issue. However, I think your blame is misguided as to who is making it so.

shrewsbury
03-26-2012, 11:05 PM
Veggieman will blame a white man if a latino commits the crime, no point in responding to his banter.

though i disagree with him often, i wouldn't go that far.
zimmerman = latino ????

cbuskstwar
03-26-2012, 11:14 PM
Just look at his (Veggies) post in that thread.


though i disagree with him often, i wouldn't go that far.
zimmerman = latino ????

AUTaxMan
03-27-2012, 02:29 AM
though i disagree with him often, i wouldn't go that far.
zimmerman = latino ????

George Zimmerman is just as white as Barack Obama is black.

steelers#1fan
03-27-2012, 06:06 AM
Boy, this is a new concept, huh!? blacks have been doing this for years. Shout out to Jesse, Al, NAACP, the media, etc, etc, for fanning the flames of racism for years.


Unbelievable man. Anytime a crime is committed by a black person towards a white person you people are just so quick to try and make the white race seem victimized. Personally I think you want to look and feel oppressed to justify your distaste for certain races.

mrveggieman
03-27-2012, 10:05 AM
Veggieman will blame a white man if a latino commits the crime, no point in responding to his banter.

I made 1 mistake on my post incorrectly labeling someone named George Zimmerman who killed a innocent black child as a white man and for that I corrected my post. However you and others want to go on and on making it into a race issue. I have a problem with anyone harming a child. That could have just as easily been my child. But some of you on here simply don't care. SMH.

mrveggieman
03-27-2012, 10:06 AM
George Zimmerman is just as white as Barack Obama is black.


Explain please.

mrveggieman
03-27-2012, 10:08 AM
Boy, this is a new concept, huh!? blacks have been doing this for years. Shout out to Jesse, Al, NAACP, the media, etc, etc, for fanning the flames of racism for years.


While we are at it shout out to rush, shawn hannity, glen beck, fox news, jerry fallwell and the kkk for all of their contributions to racism and bigotry as well.

ensbergcollector
03-27-2012, 10:33 AM
While we are at it shout out to fox rush, shawn hannity, glen beck, fox news, jerry fallwell and the kkk for all of their contributions to racism and bigotry as well.

i'm sorry. i must have missed the part where hannity, rush, beck, and fox news were out rallying thousands of white people to call for the head of one black person. I really need to pay more attention. If you could provide me a link to that I would greatly appreciate it. thanks

now I'll give you fallwell and the KKK. and guess what, i won't even try and tell you that despite what you've heard, they are really good people who have done a lot for white people. Because, as far as I am concerned. No person or organization that has racism at it's core deserves to be defended for what good they have done. Good deeds do not take away racism.

duane1969
03-27-2012, 10:33 AM
While we are at it shout out to fox rush, shawn hannity, glen beck, fox news, jerry fallwell and the kkk for all of their contributions to racism and bigotry as well.

Rush and the KKK I will give you. Please show me where Hannity and Beck have contributed to racism and bigotry.

Star_Cards
03-27-2012, 02:21 PM
Veggieman will blame a white man if a latino commits the crime, no point in responding to his banter.

I don't believe that to be true. If you read the specific post where he originally called zimmerman a white man he corrected his statement. The article didn't have a photo of zimmerman and like me, he assumed him to be white based on his name. He stood corrected later on in that post.

pspstatus
03-27-2012, 08:27 PM
Boy, this is a new concept, huh!? blacks have been doing this for years. Shout out to Jesse, Al, NAACP, the media, etc, etc, for fanning the flames of racism for years.


Maybe that's because for a long time that stuff was very true. The difference is black people were very much oppressed by white people and had a legitimate beef.

steelers#1fan
03-27-2012, 10:24 PM
The proper word here being "were".


Maybe that's because for a long time that stuff was very true. The difference is black people were very much oppressed by white people and had a legitimate beef.

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 09:10 AM
The proper word here being "were".


And still are. Try living in a blackman's shoes for a day and I guarantee that you change your prospective. No I'm not here to blame the whiteman for every thing that did not go right in my life but we must all admit that despite having a black president there is still a high level or racism in america in 2012. Just look at some of the comments posted online about Trayvon Martin as proof.

shrewsbury
03-28-2012, 09:57 AM
first off all whites did not oppress all blacks, plain and simple.

second, try living in a white mans shoes for a day and see how wonderful it is. we are constantly accused of being racist and constantly accused of slavery.

and their are as many racist comments on the trayvon thread about whites as their are blacks
racism still exists, but look in the mirror, because it is far from one sided

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 10:13 AM
first off all whites did not oppress all blacks, plain and simple.

second, try living in a white mans shoes for a day and see how wonderful it is. we are constantly accused of being racist and constantly accused of slavery.

and their are as many racist comments on the trayvon thread about whites as their are blacks
racism still exists, but look in the mirror, because it is far from one sided


I agree that all whites are not racists or opressors however be honest how many times have you been followered around in a store, when you go to certian neighboorhoods or trailed by the police because you are white? I'm sorry but I can't really feel sorry for you if the worst thing someone can falsely accuse you of is being a slave holder.

pghin08
03-28-2012, 10:23 AM
I agree that all whites are not racists or opressors however be honest how many times have you been followered around in a store, when you go to certian neighboorhoods or trailed by the police because you are white? I'm sorry but I can't reel sorry for you if the worst thing someone can falsely accuse you of is being a slave holder.

I'm inclined to agree. I came from a predominately white suburb of Pittsburgh, and a lot people from my area seem to have a genuine fear of black people. I've literally been in the car with some people who if they pull up next to a black person at a traffic light, they lock their doors. It's ridiculous.

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 10:38 AM
Try walking in a white mans shoes when he gets lost in a black neighborhood after dark and gets the ever lasting tar beat out of him by a group of black guys. This happened to a buddy of mine. When the police arrived, they told him that he shouldn't have been in the area. He was out of his element they said. The surrounding communities in my area have been white since they originated, but up until recently there has been a steady increase of blacks moving into the communities. A problem? No. Not one incident.
Try walking in a white mans shoes when he's trying to get into the State Police, and even though he had a very high score and an interview, couldn't get in because he was the wrong color. This happened to me. This is affirmitive action, and it's wrong.
I wish, and I hope the day comes in my lifetime, that we get rid of all the special interest groups, all the Al"s, the Jesse's, the Limbaugh's, and come together to tell the media and our government that we are here to take our country back. I've said it time and time before and I'll say it again; these so called leaders in Washington are letting racism happen to keep the attention off of them and letting us fight amongst ourselves.


And still are. Try living in a blackman's shoes for a day and I guarantee that you change your prospective. No I'm not here to blame the whiteman for every thing that did not go right in my life but we must all admit that despite having a black president there is still a high level or racism in america in 2012. Just look at some of the comments posted online about Trayvon Martin as proof.

Afrank45
03-28-2012, 10:38 AM
I'm glad to see my favorite poster steelers fan #1 is back using the death of a child to further his agenda AWESOME<<<<<<(thats sarcasm in case you were confused).

You know i had this long post about how your child in the navy is reliant on other races for their daily survival but i figured i just be wasting my time and energy.

Good luck in your long quest for whatever it is you are trying to achieve and thank your serviceman or woman for what they do everyday when they strap it up, to defend our country.

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 10:44 AM
And thank you, your narrow mindedness, for your post!
I'm glad to see my favorite poster steelers fan #1 is back using the death of a child to further his agenda AWESOME<<<<<<(thats sarcasm in case you were confused).

You know i had this long post about how your child in the navy is reliant on other races for their daily survival but i figured i just be wasting my time and energy.

Good luck in your long quest for whatever it is you are trying to achieve and thank your serviceman or woman for what they do everyday when they strap it up, to defend our country.

shrewsbury
03-28-2012, 10:46 AM
followered around in a store, when you go to certian neighboorhoods or trailed by the police because you are white?

yep, go to a black neighborhood, and watch me be followed, looked at, and people muttering under their breath.

go into a store in that neighborhood and you will be followed around

i have been assaulted on numerous occasions for being white (atleast a dozen times)

been told to leave an area of town because of my color (by the police)

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 10:49 AM
i'm glad to see my favorite poster steelers fan #1 is back using the death of a child to further his agenda awesome<<<<<<(thats sarcasm in case you were confused).

You know i had this long post about how your child in the navy is reliant on other races for their daily survival but i figured i just be wasting my time and energy.

Good luck in your long quest for whatever it is you are trying to achieve and thank your serviceman or woman for what they do everyday when they strap it up, to defend our country.


church!!

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 10:54 AM
yep, go to a black neighborhood, and watch me be followed, looked at, and people muttering under their breath.

go into a store in that neighborhood and you will be followed around

i have been assaulted on numerous occasions for being white (atleast a dozen times)

been told to leave an area of town because of my color (by the police)

I must ask what neighboorhoods are you going to and for what reason? What city and state do you live in? Did you file a complaint against the police officer who told you to leave a particular area of town that you were legally in?

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 11:10 AM
I really don't understand what you are getting at here.

So glad to hear from you too. That's sarcasm as well. I don't have an agenda, but if I did it would be to get rid of the dirt bags that report anything that fuels racism. And where do you get that I'm using the death of the trayvon to "further my agenda"? That's ludicrous.

I'm glad to see my favorite poster steelers fan #1 is back using the death of a child to further his agenda AWESOME<<<<<<(thats sarcasm in case you were confused).

I'm not a racist if that is how you are trying to portray me. You are way off! I have friends of all races. Every picture my Son sends, has a mixture of Black, White, Latino, etc. He too has a multi cultural group of friends, so please don't go there either.
You know i had this long post about how your child in the navy is reliant on other races for their daily survival but i figured i just be wasting my time and energy.
Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, because you didn't specify.
Good luck in your long quest for whatever it is you are trying to achieve and thank your serviceman or woman for what they do everyday when they strap it up, to defend our country.

pghin08
03-28-2012, 11:11 AM
yep, go to a black neighborhood, and watch me be followed, looked at, and people muttering under their breath.

go into a store in that neighborhood and you will be followed around

i have been assaulted on numerous occasions for being white (atleast a dozen times)

been told to leave an area of town because of my color (by the police)

Really? Where do you live? I've never even been made fun of, heck, not even looked at weird for being white.

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 11:17 AM
This I guess would be my agenda. Posted in a previous post.

I wish, and I hope the day comes in my lifetime, that we get rid of all the special interest groups, all the Al"s, the Jesse's, the Limbaugh's, and come together to tell the media and our government that we are here to take our country back. I've said it time and time before and I'll say it again; these so called leaders in Washington are letting racism happen to keep the attention off of them and letting us fight amongst ourselves.

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 11:35 AM
Your church or mine?


church!!

shrewsbury
03-28-2012, 11:39 AM
not being made in fun of, we are not talking about 12 year olds, but being threatened and comments about my race. and most of these events happened in lorain and cleveland ohio. <br />
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was jumped by a...

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 11:45 AM
My buddy got lost in the Hill District after he made a wrong turn at the Civic Arena. He'd never been down there (the arena) before. When his car broke down he started walking. That's when a group of Welcome Wagoner's decided to put the shoes to him.


Really? Where do you live? I've never even been made fun of, heck, not even looked at weird for being white.

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 11:52 AM
Your church or mine?


Defitenely mines. :winking0071:

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 11:59 AM
I feel bad for what happened to you and steelers fan's friend and no american should be made to feel uncomfortable in any american neighboorhood because of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation,...

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 12:00 PM
That sounds loaded. lol... I mean it's not just "mine", it's "definitely mine". Do explain?
Defitenely mines. :winking0071:

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 12:01 PM
That sounds loaded. lol... I mean it's not just "mine", it's "definitely mine". Do explaine?


Not loaded at all. I just wanted to extend you an invite to my church. Don't worry no one will look at you funny.

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 12:08 PM
Thanks for the invite. Maybe we could even talk about how we could get a multi-cultural group together and march on Washington. I'm serious as a heart attack when I say we need to do something to end racism!


Not loaded at all. I just wanted to extend you an invite to my church. Don't worry no one will look at you funny.

shrewsbury
03-28-2012, 12:12 PM
but I would still think that I white person would be safer in a black neighboorhood that a black person in certian white neighboorhoods.

you could be right, but i would disagree, but it would depend on the neighborhood we are talking about.

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 12:14 PM
Thanks for the invite. Maybe we could even talk about how we could get a multi-cultural group together and march on Washington. I'm serious as a heart attack when I say we need to do something to end racism!


Now you are talking about something. Let me give you some for that.

CHURCH. :love0030:

ensbergcollector
03-28-2012, 12:16 PM
I feel bad for what happened to you and steelers fan's friend and no american should be made to feel uncomfortable in any american neighboorhood because of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc but I would still think that I white person would be safer in a black neighboorhood that a black person in certian white neighboorhoods. I see plenty of white people in my community every day and I have never heard of them having any problems due to their race. Some come for work, some for school, some because the like some of our stores and some because they may be dating someone who lives here but for whatever reason they keep coming back.

ok, i was planning on avoiding this but i will tentatively join in. I grew up going to schools that were 33% white, 33% black, and 33% hispanic. Race tensions from any side seem ridiculous to me. I had more friends in school who were not white then those who were. i can honestly say, i grew up not seeing the color of a man's skin, but the character of the man.
I think there are good and bad of every race. there are upstanding people and there are not. We call some ghetto, we call some white trash, etc.

I also grew up, despite the even numbers, where obviously there were neighborhoods that were predominantly one race. I routinely took friends home from school, football practice, and work into 100% black neighborhoods. My friends, nearly every time had to call out the window at people in their yards to not harass me when i left the neighborhood because I was with them. It was just understood that a white person in that neighborhood would not be a wise idea.

I also played football against a town that was known to be a hotbed for the KKK. Their football team was all white as was their town and school. People would sit on their front porch just to curse out our team bus as we drove by because we had black players. I graduated high school in 98 so we aren't talking the 1960's here.

I say all that to say, anyone, on either side, who tries to pretend that these types of things only occur to one race and not the other, are missing the bigger picture. And frankly, i'm not sure what is gained by people who debate about who has it worse. that isn't helping anything.

I am thankful to work in a town and at a church that is extremely diverse and no one seems to notice or care. Which, for me, is how it should be.

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 12:17 PM
you could be right, but i would disagree, but it would depend on the neighborhood we are talking about.


Sometimes the motive may not even be race it could be robbery or just someobody with too much time on their hands looking for trouble with the first person that they see. However you are right in saying that it ultimately depends on the neighboorhood.

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 12:20 PM
Amen, Ensbergcollector.

"I am thankful to work in a town and at a church that is extremely diverse and no one seems to notice or care. Which, for me, is how it should be."

Afrank45
03-28-2012, 12:33 PM
I really don't understand what you are getting at here.

So glad to hear from you too. That's sarcasm as well. I don't have an agenda, but if I did it would be to get rid of the dirt bags that report anything that fuels racism. And where do you get that I'm using the death of the trayvon to "further my agenda"? That's ludicrous.


No sarcasm at all. Not only do i have great respect for what your son does i appreciate that you as a father had to let him go to do what he does.

My point is that your agenda is to as you put it "get rid of all the Al's and Jesse's" and the only way you can seem to point out the issues in this world is to glorify the death of children and how the libreal media is out to get the white man.

You dont seem to have issues with Rush limbaugh and his media fear mongering towards non minorities though which some may construe as hypocrtical.

If your goal is to get rid of the dirtbags why arent you banging the drum on the other side telling the world how terrible it is for people like rush limbaugh to exist? Do you not believe the things he says contribute to the race relations in america?

By the way i am by no means "narrowminded" my mother white, my father black, i went to an all white high school in an all white city. My wife you guessed it white!!!!! So i think im pretty well versed on both sides of the discussion.

And i did not specify trayvon martin you did, i said children, you know like the boy who was lit on fire or the child at mississippi st, those were you two examples you most recently chose to use.

pghin08
03-28-2012, 12:49 PM
My buddy got lost in the Hill District after he made a wrong turn at the Civic Arena. He'd never been down there (the arena) before. When his car broke down he started walking. That's when a group of Welcome Wagoner's decided to put the shoes to him.

That's crazy. For two years I lived in Washington Plaza in uptown (right next to the Civic Arena), and walked through the Hill District many times. Never had a thing happen to me. I'd heard many gunshots from my apartment, but most of the violent crime in Pittsburgh tends to be white on white or black on black.

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 01:14 PM
Thank you. And it was hard. I am extremely proud of him.
No sarcasm at all. Not only do i have great respect for what your son does i appreciate that you as a father had to let him go to do what he does.

My point is that your agenda is to as you put it "get rid of all the Al's and Jesse's" and the only way you can seem to point out the issues in this world is to glorify the death of children and how the libreal media is out to get the white man.


I do have a problem with anyone that promotes racism. And I quote.

"I wish, and I hope the day comes in my lifetime, that we get rid of all the special interest groups, all the Al"s, the Jesse's, the Limbaugh's, and come together to tell the media and our government that we are here to take our country back. I've said it time and time before and I'll say it again; these so called leaders in Washington are letting racism happen to keep the attention off of them and letting us fight amongst ourselves."
You dont seem to have issues with Rush limbaugh and his media fear mongering towards non minorities though which some may construe as hypocrtical.


I will come together with you anytime to put Rush, Jesse, Al and whomever causes racism to reign in this country to bed. Throw Geraldo Rivera in there too for good measure as well.
If your goal is to get rid of the dirtbags why arent you banging the drum on the other side telling the world how terrible it is for people like rush limbaugh to exist? Do you not believe the things he says contribute to the race relations in america?


Point taken.
By the way i am by no means "narrowminded" my mother white, my father black, i went to an all white high school in an all white city. My wife you guessed it white!!!!! So i think im pretty well versed on both sides of the discussion.

Our media has a way of leaving things out or not reporting stories to promote racism. That's all I was getting at. Tragic as it is, if they are going to report on racism, report it all. Bottom line is, if they are going to report a murder, then just report a murder. Leave race out of it.
And i did not specify trayvon martin you did, i said children, you know like the boy who was lit on fire or the child at mississippi st, those were you two examples you most recently chose to use.[/quote]

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 01:41 PM
All I can go by is what he told me. He's an upstanding guy. That's all I can say.
That's crazy. For two years I lived in Washington Plaza in uptown (right next to the Civic Arena), and walked through the Hill District many times. Never had a thing happen to me. I'd heard many gunshots from my apartment, but most of the violent crime in Pittsburgh tends to be white on white or black on black.

pghin08
03-28-2012, 02:04 PM
All I can go by is what he told me. He's an upstanding guy. That's all I can say.

Oh I'm not saying he's lying, I'm sure he isn't. I just think that as unfortunate as it is that it happened to him, it's more likely the exception than the rule.

steelers#1fan
03-28-2012, 02:09 PM
I know. :winking0071:


Oh I'm not saying he's lying, I'm sure he isn't. I just think that as unfortunate as it is that it happened to him, it's more likely the exception than the rule.

pspstatus
03-28-2012, 04:46 PM
first off all whites did not oppress all blacks, plain and simple.

second, try living in a white mans shoes for a day and see how wonderful it is. we are constantly accused of being racist and constantly accused of slavery.

and their are as many racist comments on the trayvon thread about whites as their are blacks
racism still exists, but look in the mirror, because it is far from one sided


I've never been accused of being racist.

shrewsbury
03-28-2012, 05:02 PM
I've never been accused of being racist.

so you're not white

mrveggieman
03-28-2012, 05:04 PM
so you're not white


So what does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

shrewsbury
03-28-2012, 05:35 PM
well bush is white, so if the price goes up, we all know it's the whites fault.

but really, i was referring to him saying he has never been accused of being racist

tndcollectables
03-28-2012, 05:42 PM
Really? Where do you live? I've never even been made fun of, heck, not even looked at weird for being white.


It happened to me in Shreveport, LA. I was brokedown in the freeway and was walking to the autoparts store. A cop pulled up along side me and asked why I was there. I told him and he said right, pulled over and made me put my hands on the car and searched me. He saw my military id and said sorry whites in this neighborhood only come for one reason.

shrewsbury
03-28-2012, 06:50 PM
whites in this neighborhood only come for one reason.

dang, a double racist stereotype :confused0054:

mrveggieman
03-29-2012, 08:58 AM
It happened to me in Shreveport, LA. I was brokedown in the freeway and was walking to the autoparts store. A cop pulled up along side me and asked why I was there. I told him and he said right, pulled over and made me put my hands on the car and searched me. He saw my military id and said sorry whites in this neighborhood only come for one reason.


That's still racial profiling. Did you file a complaint against the officer who pulled you over?

tndcollectables
03-29-2012, 10:50 AM
dang, a double racist stereotype :confused0054:




That's still racial profiling. Did you file a complaint against the officer who pulled you over?


It happend in May of '92, serving in the Army with all different races, religions, ect. Then having that happen it was quite the shock. That is one of the nice things about being in the service, it "forces" people to rely on each other. Yes you still have all the issues, but for the most part you forget about it. I had a roommate that was reading on Malcolm X so I asked questions. Another roommate that was a Budhist so I asked questions. If we as people don't understand something all we have to do is ask, not assume it is all bad.

No I didn't file or get upset, I just smiled and told him that all people are not like that.

pspstatus
03-30-2012, 12:05 AM
so you're not white

Not sure if you're kidding or not. I am white and live in a pretty diverse area.