PDA

View Full Version : What happened to Jesus from age 12 to 30?



mrveggieman
04-13-2012, 09:12 AM
I was reading something on another website and someone bought up an interesting point. As most of us know the bible only talks about Jesus from birth to age 12 then he disapears and returns around the age of 30 until his death. No one can account for the time in his life from age 12 to 30. Someone suggested that he studied budism and hinduism during that timeframe. Now before ya'll start laughing at me for bring it up can any of you prove what happened to him during that timeframe? Ok then. Please feel free to post your thoughts and comments.

ensbergcollector
04-13-2012, 09:17 AM
Since all opinions are equally valid (because if you cant prove something then nothing is more likely than anything else) I will go with abducted by aliens.

habsheaven
04-13-2012, 09:20 AM
Since all opinions are equally valid (because if you cant prove something then nothing is more likely than anything else) I will go with abducted by aliens.

So maybe those Scientologists are on to something afterall???

pghin08
04-13-2012, 09:22 AM
I like to think that Jesus opened up a very successful chain of frozen yogurt shops.

Edit: If so, I really hope he named them "Sweet Jesus!"

mrveggieman
04-13-2012, 09:23 AM
Since all opinions are equally valid (because if you cant prove something then nothing is more likely than anything else) I will go with abducted by aliens.


Hey everyone is entitled to his opinion as far fetched as it may be but it wouldn't surprise me if he did read up on budism, hinduism, etc. If you study some of the ancient religions their basic message is very similiar to what the bible teaches.

angel0430
04-13-2012, 09:49 AM
This subject has been brought up multiple times. Some people say that during that time frame he just acted like a regular man....maybe drinking, doing stuff that the churches would not want people to know. Reason why, if they ever find some evidence the church is going to protect the image and make sure that the informaption does not comes out

ensbergcollector
04-13-2012, 10:04 AM
This subject has been brought up multiple times. Some people say that during that time frame he just acted like a regular man....maybe drinking, doing stuff that the churches would not want people to know. Reason why, if they ever find some evidence the church is going to protect the image and make sure that the informaption does not comes out

except that numerous times in the bible we see him doing regular stuff like drinking.

mrveggieman
04-13-2012, 10:10 AM
except that numerous times in the bible we see him doing regular stuff like drinking.


I was actually reading one particular theory a while back that believed he was actually married and fathered children.

angel0430
04-13-2012, 10:26 AM
except that numerous times in the bible we see him doing regular stuff like drinking.

I was just giving an example, it could have been different other stuff that the church weould not want people to know

shrewsbury
04-13-2012, 10:27 AM
the bible only consists of what the church deems as needed, so you would have to supply his birth, following, and death.
there are some works that try to explain this era, but they have long been deemed not to be authentic by the church and scholars. also the bible is not really about jesus, but about christianity, obviously he is christianity but him taking a dump doesn't have a lot to do with the religion, thus why make the book any bigger by adding a bunch of stuff not relevant to the church's idea of being a christian

there has been tales of him studying in egypt, going to asia-minor, greece, and much more.

all religions share certain aspects of the spirit, but that does not mean someone had to study it from another culture to learn about it

the simplest idea would be he did what most jewish boys that age did, worked, studied the tora and other jewish works. he had plenty of sisters and brothers, so i am sure he had much to do, just to keep up chores.

i would be much more curious as to how he was affected by being the mesiah and knowing his fate. how he interacted with his family and friends, with jewish leaders and sinners.

if you think he is not the real mesiah it would be easy to say he studied various religions and was a smart man, he used this to say he was the christ. but to know you will die a bad death by claiming this does not seem logical to me.

if you think he never existed then you can point out the missing information and use it as a fact to prove it is all fake.

if you do believe him to be your savior then these things should bring up wonder and speculation, but you have already showed your faith by accepting him, so the rest is kind of easy to accept.

boba
04-13-2012, 12:48 PM
Lets look at what we do know.

Luke 2:52
52 And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.


So in that time he grew in wisdom and in favor with God and man.

I think this abolishes the notions that he studied budism and hinduism. He probably just worked with his father and continued to study and find favor ( as the scripture says ) with man.

But, as someone else mentioned, if it was important, it would have been recorded.

mrveggieman
04-13-2012, 12:53 PM
Lets look at what we do know.

Luke 2:52
52 And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.


So in that time he grew in wisdom and in favor with God and man.

I think this abolishes the notions that he studied budism and hinduism. He probably just worked with his father and continued to study and find favor ( as the scripture says ) with man.

But, as someone else mentioned, if it was important, it would have been recorded.

How are the years 12-30 of the most important man ever to live not important? Surely he had to do something during that time that was noteworthy.

boba
04-13-2012, 01:00 PM
How are the years 12-30 of the most important man ever to live not important? Surely he had to do something during that time that was noteworthy.

Lets look at Luke 1:1-4

1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.



Luke is writing this so the disciples will have an account of what Jesus taught, not to follow him around like a celebrity. What I should have said was, if it was important for our salvation, it would have been recorded.

shrewsbury
04-13-2012, 02:28 PM
What I should have said was, if it was important for our salvation, it would have been recorded.

maybe what the church deems as important to our salvation. i am sure there are plenty of works we will never see that were burned or locked away, the findings in the last 60 years shows how little we know and how much the church has hidden.

(and no i am not talking about the DC)

boba
04-13-2012, 03:48 PM
maybe what the church deems as important to our salvation. i am sure there are plenty of works we will never see that were burned or locked away, the findings in the last 60 years shows how little we know and how much the church has hidden.

(and no i am not talking about the DC)


What are these findings?

shrewsbury
04-13-2012, 04:00 PM
well one would be what is now called the Nag Hammadi Library, which contains around 50 christian based texts that the church outlawed when the unified the bible. they were discovered around 1945, in similiar circumstances that the dead sea scrolls were found

most were forgotten over time, and now highly debated. and of course most christians try to claim them as false, but they are the same ones who know little about how the bible was created(and it wasn't created by god)

duane1969
04-13-2012, 05:25 PM
Joseph was a carpenter, so logic dictates that he was most likely in some form of an apprenticeship under his father until his late teens or early 20's. That wouldn't be relevant enough to need to be included in the Bible, so that explains about 8-10 years.

Assuming he followed typical Jewish life patterns of the period, he most likely married. Again, the married life of a 20-something carpenter would hardly merit documentation in the Bible. It is also conceivable that his wife may have passed due to any of the numerous illnesses of the time, again, not Bible relevant and a good explanation of why she is not mentioned.

This is purely speculation on my part. Just trying to use a little common sense and logic.

habsheaven
04-13-2012, 07:02 PM
Joseph was a carpenter, so logic dictates that he was most likely in some form of an apprenticeship under his father until his late teens or early 20's. That wouldn't be relevant enough to need to be included in the Bible, so that explains about 8-10 years.

Assuming he followed typical Jewish life patterns of the period, he most likely married. Again, the married life of a 20-something carpenter would hardly merit documentation in the Bible. It is also conceivable that his wife may have passed due to any of the numerous illnesses of the time, again, not Bible relevant and a good explanation of why she is not mentioned.

This is purely speculation on my part. Just trying to use a little common sense and logic.

Shame on you. You know better than to try that around here. :fighting0050:

mrveggieman
04-16-2012, 08:43 AM
Joseph was a carpenter, so logic dictates that he was most likely in some form of an apprenticeship under his father until his late teens or early 20's. That wouldn't be relevant enough to need to be included in the Bible, so that explains about 8-10 years.

Assuming he followed typical Jewish life patterns of the period, he most likely married. Again, the married life of a 20-something carpenter would hardly merit documentation in the Bible. It is also conceivable that his wife may have passed due to any of the numerous illnesses of the time, again, not Bible relevant and a good explanation of why she is not mentioned.

This is purely speculation on my part. Just trying to use a little common sense and logic.


Those are interesting possiblilites but you would think that Jesus possible wife would have at least got one sentence in the bible. :confused0024:

duane1969
04-16-2012, 09:07 AM
Shame on you. You know better than to try that around here. :fighting0050:

I knew someone would have to call me on it.


Those are interesting possiblilites but you would think that Jesus possible wife would have at least got one sentence in the bible. :confused0024:

Not necessarily. She bears no relevance to the grand scheme of things. There are plenty of things not mentioned in the Bible because of lack of relevance. There is no mention of dinosaurs, glaciers or the Ice Age, even though they are significant parts of human history.

There is also the possibility that she was mentioned, but intentionally omitted for some purpose (see Da Vinci Code).