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pwaldo
04-24-2012, 10:17 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/number-us-illegal-immigrants-mexico-drops-182306663--finance.html;_ylt=AohjPDwNohTl9SR835Ere2imWot4;_yl u=X3oDMTQzMTNvanNsBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIFRvcFN0b3JpZXME cGtnA2E1Y2U4MzkwLTcwOWMtM2U1Ny1iODEwLTY4ODlmZTMwOT BjZQRwb3MDNwRzZWMDTWVkaWFTZWN0aW9uTGlzdAR2ZXIDMmQw ZThiOTMtOGQ3YS0xMWUxLWJmNmYtNWU3YzkwYTgwZWRk;_ylg= X3oDMTNoMjQ2azZhBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaW QDOTE1M2I4NDYtY2MwYi0zMDk5LWI1M2QtYWNiOGY1OGNkMDQz BHBzdGNhdANwb2xpdGljc3xkZXN0aW5hdGlvbjIwMTIEcHQDc3 RvcnlwYWdlBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3


The number of Mexican immigrants living illegally in the U.S. has dropped significantly for the first time in decades, a dramatic shift as many illegal workers, already in the U.S. and seeing few job opportunities, return to Mexico.

An analysis of census data from the U.S. and Mexican governments details the movement to and from Mexico, a nation accounting for nearly 60 percent of the illegal immigrants in the U.S. It comes amid renewed debate over U.S. immigration policy as the Supreme Court hears arguments this week on Arizona's tough immigration law.

Roughly 6.1 million unauthorized Mexican immigrants were living in the U.S. last year, down from a peak of nearly 7 million in 2007, according to the Pew Hispanic Center study released Monday. It was the biggest sustained drop in modern history, believed to be surpassed in scale only by losses in the Mexican-born U.S. population during the Great Depression.

Much of the drop in illegal immigrants is due to the persistently weak U.S. economy, which has shrunk construction and service-sector jobs attractive to Mexican workers following the housing bust. But increased deportations, heightened U.S. patrols and violence along the border also have played a role, as well as demographic changes, such as Mexico's declining birth rate.

In all, the Mexican-born population in the U.S. last year legal and illegal fell to 12 million, marking an end to an immigration boom dating back to the 1970s, when foreign-born residents from Mexico stood at 760,000. The 2007 peak was 12.6 million.

Christian Ballesteros, who has been at a shelter for immigrants in Matamoros, Mexico, across the border from Brownsville, Texas, pointed to stiffer U.S. penalties for repeat offenders as well as brutal criminal groups that control the Mexican side of the border as reasons for the immigration decline. Ballesteros, who has been deported four times, was recently caught after hopping the border fence near Nogales, Ariz.

Among the Mexican immigrants who leave the U.S., an estimated 5 to 35 percent are deported while the rest opt to go back voluntarily, often taking U.S.-born children with them. Those who were in the U.S. illegally and returned to Mexico also are increasingly saying they will not try to come back about 20 percent, compared to 7 percent in 2005.

shrewsbury
04-25-2012, 12:59 AM
go arizona!!!!!!!!

tylermckinzie
04-28-2012, 06:32 PM
go arizona!!!!!!!!

LOL.... it's the economy, not the bill....

Much of the drop in illegal immigrants is due to the persistently weak U.S. economy, which has shrunk construction and service-sector jobs attractive to Mexican workers following the housing bust. But increased deportations, heightened U.S. patrols and violence along the border also have played a role, as well as demographic changes, such as Mexico's declining birth rate.

MadMan1978
04-30-2012, 11:45 AM
LOL.... it's the economy, not the bill....

Much of the drop in illegal immigrants is due to the persistently weak U.S. economy, which has shrunk construction and service-sector jobs attractive to Mexican workers following the housing bust. But increased deportations, heightened U.S. patrols and violence along the border also have played a role, as well as demographic changes, such as Mexico's declining birth rate.
That is not how they will see it.......I think it was the tougher border policy set in place by the Obama admin

duane1969
04-30-2012, 11:54 AM
No jobs in America = no reason to hop the border.

duane1969
04-30-2012, 12:00 PM
That is not how they will see it.......I think it was the tougher border policy set in place by the Obama admin

What border policy? Obama has never had a border policy.

pghin08
04-30-2012, 12:03 PM
What border policy? Obama has never had a border policy.

Not true. Obama's immigration policy aided in deporting 400,000 illegal immigrants in 2011. Not sure how he's being construed as soft on immigration.

MadMan1978
04-30-2012, 12:11 PM
see i actually just said that to get a reaction because i didnt know ...which I did lol my bad

duane1969
04-30-2012, 12:53 PM
Not true. Obama's immigration policy aided in deporting 400,000 illegal immigrants in 2011. Not sure how he's being construed as soft on immigration.

First, that is not a border policy. He does not have a defined policy on border issues. That has been a big criticism of him.

Second, if deportations are up then it would seem to indicate that there are more people to deport. If the border is secure then the number of illegals in America should be declining and causing a net result of less people to deport. The fact that deportations are up by 25% since 2007 does not convince me that less illegals are entering the country.

Part of the reason he is considered soft on the border issues is he says one thing and does another. He says he wants to secure our border then turns around and reduces the National Guard presence by 75% and the budget for the National Guard to patrol the border by 50%.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/20/administration-to-reduce-guard-troops-on-the-us-mexico-border-by-75-percent/

Also, in regards to being soft on immigration, there is the issue of the administration picking and choosing who to deport. The DHS has adopted a policy of targeting security risks and criminals for deportation and turning a blind eye to illegals who are here to get an education or to work. The administration has delayed the deportation of another 300,000 illegals while they review whether or not to deport them. In essence, ICE/DHS could decide to knowingly allow illegals to stay in the U.S.
http://jurist.org/paperchase/2011/08/us-to-review-deportations-in-300000-immigration-cases.php

And the claim that border captures are down is kind of a deceptive claim considering only 800 of 2000 miles of US/Mexico border is physically patrolled. All it would take to avoid a patrol is to shift a few miles in another direction where patrols are less frequent or not done at all.

duwal
04-30-2012, 09:07 PM
No jobs in America = no reason to hop the border.


there are plenty of jobs out there, there are just a good percentage of unemployed people who think they are too good for those jobs or the job is beneath them

duane1969
04-30-2012, 09:18 PM
there are plenty of jobs out there, there are just a good percentage of unemployed people who think they are too good for those jobs or the job is beneath them

Perhaps I should amend that.

The perception of no jobs = no reason to hop the border.