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pwaldo
05-01-2012, 05:02 PM
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Five men, at least three of them anarchists, plotted to blow up a bridge near Cleveland and were nabbed because they were working with a man who was actually an FBI informant, law enforcement officials said Tuesday in announcing the men's arrests.

The target of the plot was a bridge that carries a state highway over part of the Cuyahoga Valley National Park in the Brecksville area, about 15 miles south of downtown Cleveland, the FBI said.

The men planted what they believed to be explosives at the base of the bridge, armed them, went to a remote spot and "entered the codes that they thought would blow up the bridge with innocent people traveling over it," U.S. Attorney Steven Dettelbach said. There actually was no danger to the public because the explosives were inert and had been sold to the men by an undercover FBI employee, officials said.

Authorities said three of the men were arrested Monday and are self-described anarchists, not tied to international terrorism. Occupy Cleveland media coordinator Jacob Wagner said at least some of the suspects had attended the group's events but that they weren't affiliated with or representing the group.

Baxter, Wright and Hayne considered different plots over time, including distracting law enforcement with smoke grenades while trying to bring down financial institution signs in downtown Cleveland.

The men also discussed other potential targets, including a law enforcement center, oil wells, a cargo ship or the opening of a new downtown casino, according to the affidavit. The document also alleges that one suspect talked about being part of group planning to cause trouble during an upcoming NATO summit in Chicago.

The group finally settled on blowing up the bridge, federal authorities alleged.

Some Occupy Cleveland members know the suspects, but the protest group had no knowledge of the alleged plan and would denounce any such violence, Wagner said.

"Occupy Cleveland has, from the very start, espoused peaceful, nonviolent, direct action," Wagner said. "These alleged actions taken by these people were completely autonomous." He said the group was gathering more information and isn't commenting further.

The announcement of the arrests came as Occupy demonstrators joined Tuesday protests marking International Workers Day, or May Day.

AUTaxMan
05-01-2012, 05:11 PM
Get ready. There will be a lot more of this stuff this summer.

duane1969
05-01-2012, 05:16 PM
Glad to see this was thwarted. It is a shame that our own citizens plot to kill their fellow Americans.

Question: Since liberals labeled all Tea Party members and supporters a bunch of racist thanks to a handful of racist attending Tea Party rallies, is it now acceptable to refer to everyone associated with or in support of the Occupy movement a radical terrorist?

shrewsbury
05-01-2012, 05:32 PM
Question: Since liberals labeled all Tea Party members and supporters a bunch of racist thanks to a handful of racist attending Tea Party rallies, is it now acceptable to refer to everyone associated with or in support of the Occupy movement a radical terrorist?

+1

and how about these idiots are blowing up a bridge that people were traveling across, could have been a grandpa, someone's 2 year old brother, a mom.

if you are against the goverment and you blow up a goverment building, you are an idiot and deserve death, but atleast you were trying to harm people you didn't like. but just random people??

and if you are dumb enough to try and blow something up, you are going to buy explosives from people you don't know? well i guess that's why they are dumb!!!!!!

texansrangerfan73
05-01-2012, 05:43 PM
Get ready. There will be a lot more of this stuff this summer.

Why this summer? Only anniversary I can think of this summer is the 20th anniversary of the 11 day siege at Ruby Ridge. Next year will be the 20th anniversary of the 51 day siege at Waco which ended in April of 1993. Also the 17th anniversary of the OKC incident just passed in April with nothing happening. So again why this summer?

MadMan1978
05-01-2012, 06:03 PM
Glad to see this was thwarted. It is a shame that our own citizens plot to kill their fellow Americans.

Question: Since liberals labeled all Tea Party members and supporters a bunch of racist thanks to a handful of racist attending Tea Party rallies, is it now acceptable to refer to everyone associated with or in support of the Occupy movement a radical terrorist?

that statement is so far reaching it isnt even funny...
Eachj side of the line has nut jobs. This is to the extreme but it happens

pghin08
05-01-2012, 07:57 PM
What total idiots. Throw the book at them.

By the way, am I the only one that finds it odd that Occupy Cleveland (not exactly a hotbed of activity) has a media coordinator? What's more capitalist in nature than needing a media coordinator?

AUTaxMan
05-01-2012, 08:05 PM
What total idiots. Throw the book at them.

By the way, am I the only one that finds it odd that Occupy Cleveland (not exactly a hotbed of activity) has a media coordinator? What's more capitalist in nature than needing a media coordinator?

the whole movement is phony. it is very organized.

AUTaxMan
05-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Why this summer? Only anniversary I can think of this summer is the 20th anniversary of the 11 day siege at Ruby Ridge. Next year will be the 20th anniversary of the 51 day siege at Waco which ended in April of 1993. Also the 17th anniversary of the OKC incident just passed in April with nothing happening. So again why this summer?

has nothing to do with any meaningful anniversary. the radicals are more organized, more emboldened, and have more resources than they did a year ago.

duane1969
05-01-2012, 08:17 PM
that statement is so far reaching it isnt even funny...
Eachj side of the line has nut jobs. This is to the extreme but it happens

Why is it far reaching? One has to look no further than this very forum to see Tea Party members labeled as racist because of the actions of a few.

In reality, I was being facetious to show the silliness of labeling an entire group of people because of the actions of a few.

texansrangerfan73
05-01-2012, 08:32 PM
has nothing to do with any meaningful anniversary. the radicals are more organized, more emboldened, and have more resources than they did a year ago.

I still don't see anything more happening this year. The fools that made the news today, if you seen them they look like they could not coordinate a bake sale! Just a couple of no name, non-affiliated, non-educated no nothings to me.
I hope they go to the Fed DOC for a good while :fighting0056:

MadMan1978
05-01-2012, 08:57 PM
Why is it far reaching? One has to look no further than this very forum to see Tea Party members labeled as racist because of the actions of a few.

In reality, I was being facetious to show the silliness of labeling an entire group of people because of the actions of a few.
But I cant help it if there are racist members of the Tea party...

those purple people are really dangerous!

mrveggieman
05-02-2012, 08:18 AM
Why is it far reaching? One has to look no further than this very forum to see Tea Party members labeled as racist because of the actions of a few.

In reality, I was being facetious to show the silliness of labeling an entire group of people because of the actions of a few.

There are far more racists in the tea party than there are extremist in the occupy movement.

shrewsbury
05-02-2012, 08:43 AM
[QUOTE]There are far more racists in the tea party than there are extremist in the occupy movement.[QUOTE]

really? why do you think this?

mrveggieman
05-02-2012, 08:45 AM
[quote]There are far more racists in the tea party than there are extremist in the occupy movement.[quote]

really? why do you think this?


Really? They no one heard of the tea party until Obama who conveniently has a black father became president. I guarantee if Mccain was elected none of us would be talking about any tea party.

duane1969
05-02-2012, 09:46 AM
There are far more racists in the tea party than there are extremist in the occupy movement.

Proof?

*censored*
05-02-2012, 10:23 AM
Really? They no one heard of the tea party until Obama who conveniently has a black father became president. I guarantee if Mccain was elected none of us would be talking about any tea party.

Correlation does not imply causation. It makes about as much sense as saying that my staying home from school on 9-11-01 caused the World Trade Center to be attacked.

While I'm no Tea Party fan because of what it's turned into (nothing but a rebranding of the same old Republican Party), at least get it right on why it was started.

Star_Cards
05-02-2012, 10:39 AM
[quote=shrewsbury;11460966][quote]There are far more racists in the tea party than there are extremist in the occupy movement.


Really? They no one heard of the tea party until Obama who conveniently has a black father became president. I guarantee if Mccain was elected none of us would be talking about any tea party.

I Think the tea party came about more because a democrat was elected, not that it was obama who had black skin. I do agree that there are some racists in the tea party, but it's just like there are racists in any group really. There's probably not a group of people that doesn't have some population that is racist.

duane1969
05-02-2012, 10:45 AM
[quote=shrewsbury;11460966][quote]There are far more racists in the tea party than there are extremist in the occupy movement.


Really? They no one heard of the tea party until Obama who conveniently has a black father became president. I guarantee if Mccain was elected none of us would be talking about any tea party.

What you should say is that YOU never heard of the Tea Party until Obama took office and based on your lack of knowledge of them you are applying your own biased blanket statement that they are a bunch of racist Obama-haters that only exist because of their unified bigoted opinion about blacks.

The reality is that they got their start as a libertarian group that held a fund raiser in 2007 for Ron Paul's upcoming presidential campaign. Their first political action was a protest against an obesity tax in New York. They came to the national spotlight when they expressed their opposition to the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act in 2008 (that's right, the GWB version of a stimulus).

So you see, in spite of the uninformed, ignorant websites that you get this tripe and your erroneous opinion from, the Tea Party existed before Obama was even a front-runner for the Dem nomination and opposed irresponsible big government spending before Obama was doing it. And since they existed BEFORE the 2008 election then they obviously would still be around if McCain had gotten elected, thus your "guarantee" is pretty much anything but a guarantee.


[QUOTE=mrveggieman;11460968][quote=shrewsbury;11460966]

I Think the tea party came about more because a democrat was elected, not that it was obama who had black skin. I do agree that there are some racists in the tea party, but it's just like there are racists in any group really. There's probably not a group of people that doesn't have some population that is racist.

It is an obviously common misconception that the Tea Party came to be because a Democrat got elected. They came into existance when a Republican was in office and some of their earliest actions were in protest of actions by Republican politicians.

texansrangerfan73
05-02-2012, 01:35 PM
[quote=shrewsbury;11460966][quote]There are far more racists in the tea party than there are extremist in the occupy movement.


Really? They no one heard of the tea party until Obama who conveniently has a black father became president. I guarantee if Mccain was elected none of us would be talking about any tea party.

That's total squat!!!!

Star_Cards
05-02-2012, 01:47 PM
It is an obviously common misconception that the Tea Party came to be because a Democrat got elected. They came into existance when a Republican was in office and some of their earliest actions were in protest of actions by Republican politicians.

It makes sense that they were also a reaction to the republican party. now that you say that I think I remember hearing that. just not a big tea party follower. definitely not formed because of a presidents skin color.

duane1969
05-02-2012, 02:00 PM
It makes sense that they were also a reaction to the republican party. now that you say that I think I remember hearing that. just not a big tea party follower. definitely not formed because of a presidents skin color.

The primary basis of the party is fiscal responsibility which should result in lower taxation, smaller government and getting back to the original purpose of the Constitution.

Since they oppose fiscal responsibility they opposed the Bush "stimulus" and susequently opposed the Obama stimulus as well. Since Obama supporters like to demonize anyone who opposes him, it was an easy transition to label them all as racists because a few idiots with signs sporting racist jargon were spotted at Tea Party rallies, and conveniently ignore the facts and anything to do with reality. Some still like to do so.

AUTaxMan
05-02-2012, 02:54 PM
The primary basis of the party is fiscal responsibility which should result in lower taxation, smaller government and getting back to the original purpose of the Constitution.

Since they oppose fiscal responsibility they opposed the Bush "stimulus" and susequently opposed the Obama stimulus as well. Since Obama supporters like to demonize anyone who opposes him, it was an easy transition to label them all as racists because a few idiots with signs sporting racist jargon were spotted at Tea Party rallies, and conveniently ignore the facts and anything to do with reality. Some still like to do so.

How many arrests, rapes, etc. at tea party rallies vs. those of the occupy movement?

duane1969
05-02-2012, 05:38 PM
How many arrests, rapes, etc. at tea party rallies vs. those of the occupy movement?

I am just ballparking here, but I am going with around 1:100 although that might be an under-estimation since I would imagine there were Tea Party rallies that went arrest-free as they tend to not riot, go naked in public, spit on military persons or defecate on police car hoods. But I am just guessing.