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JustAlex
06-25-2012, 04:17 AM
I always love it when I get asked "When has Fox News lied"?

It's like asking me, "when has a politician lied"?

The following clip shows Fox News purposely editing an Obama response on Immigration to make it seem like he is contradicting himself. Of course this was completely FALSE and it just another example of how little credibility Fox News really has.

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The MASTERS OF SPIN in Faux News do this in order to misinform the American public and create more unnecessary division in a very unstable political climate.


BTW, the video poster of this clip has over 180 videos of Fox News Bias, lies, or misinformation in his YouTube Channel.

habsheaven
06-25-2012, 08:03 AM
Listen for the silence Alex. It is going to be deafening. lol

pr0phet
06-25-2012, 08:19 AM
People will only believe what they want to hear. It doesn't matter where it comes from. I'm guilty of it, your guilty of it, we are all guilty of it in some fashion.

IMHO, it takes a lot of experience to listen to something and take out just the facts.

shrewsbury
06-25-2012, 08:43 AM
alex, it's not just fox or faux news, this is done all over the place with a lot of people not just obama

habsheaven
06-25-2012, 08:59 AM
People will only believe what they want to hear. It doesn't matter where it comes from. I'm guilty of it, your guilty of it, we are all guilty of it in some fashion.

IMHO, it takes a lot of experience to listen to something and take out just the facts.

The issue isn't "how people interpret what they hear". The issue is "how irresponsible the people at Fox edit what they want you to hear".

sobersoul
06-25-2012, 09:00 AM
I'm sure MSNBC shows all sorts of videos to their full extent. However, we all know Fox News is a sham... if you don't know that you need to seriously look inside and fix your worldview. It is very entertaining, and with the capitalistic society we live in, that is all that matters. Look at Michael Moore, that guy edits the hell out of every video he uses and lefties like my self eat that stuff up. We love it because it makes us feel good and entertains us, and therefore we shell over the money to keep it going. As long as we have a capitalistic society we will have a capitalistic media that is biased on both sides.

mrveggieman
06-25-2012, 09:28 AM
I'm sure MSNBC shows all sorts of videos to their full extent. However, we all know Fox News is a sham... if you don't know that you need to seriously look inside and fix your worldview. It is very entertaining, and with the capitalistic society we live in, that is all that matters. Look at Michael Moore, that guy edits the hell out of every video he uses and lefties like my self eat that stuff up. We love it because it makes us feel good and entertains us, and therefore we shell over the money to keep it going. As long as we have a capitalistic society we will have a capitalistic media that is biased on both sides.


I can actually agree with you on that. :thumb:

JustAlex
06-25-2012, 01:42 PM
I'm sure MSNBC shows all sorts of videos to their full extent. However, we all know Fox News is a sham... if you don't know that you need to seriously look inside and fix your worldview. It is very entertaining, and with the capitalistic society we live in, that is all that matters. Look at Michael Moore, that guy edits the hell out of every video he uses and lefties like my self eat that stuff up. We love it because it makes us feel good and entertains us, and therefore we shell over the money to keep it going. As long as we have a capitalistic society we will have a capitalistic media that is biased on both sides.

Agreed.

However, unlike MSNBC, CNN, and most other news source.....what makes Fox News so bad is their blatant disregard for facts.

For god sakes their slogan is Fair and Balanced.....this is the biggest joke in American media....it really is!

AUTaxMan
06-25-2012, 02:13 PM
Agreed.

However, unlike MSNBC, CNN, and most other news sources

:confused0024:

sobersoul
06-25-2012, 03:01 PM
Fox only has a disregard for the facts because if they have very little "news" programming. However, neither do the other stations. They basically have a bunch of political actors who get around a few different tables during the day and spread half-truths, propaganda, and gossip. Calling any major news station "news" any more is a farce. Don't get me wrong, I love Rachel Maddow, but that is mostly because she is telling me what I want to hear. NPR is the closest your going to get to an actual news presence in the US, and every two weeks all they do is ask for more money... which I have been meaning to do... cripes! Even the BBC does a better job covering USA news than we do, but the BBC is government subsidized and doesn't have to worry about selling commercial time.

Can you tell I am a quasi-socialist... yeah... hard to hide.

Wickabee
06-25-2012, 03:09 PM
:confused0024:
Finish reading the post and you might understand...

habsheaven
06-25-2012, 03:13 PM
Finish reading the post and you might understand...

Lol, he took what you said and pulled a "Fox" move by only quoting half of it and acting confused by the mis-quote! Gotta love it, classic!!! And to do it in this thread, lol!!!

AUTaxMan
06-25-2012, 04:04 PM
Lol, he took what you said and pulled a "Fox" move by only quoting half of it and acting confused by the mis-quote! Gotta love it, classic!!! And to do it in this thread, lol!!!

Are you kidding me? He implied that MSNBC, CNN and most other news sources don't blatantly disregard facts. They make a living off of disregarding facts.

duane1969
06-25-2012, 04:16 PM
Assuming or accepting that any news agency doesn't do this is naive. I generally do not watch news anymore simply because I am tired of the deception and intentional "accidents" with no other purpose than to sensationalize an issue and stir up a ruckus.

habsheaven
06-25-2012, 05:30 PM
Are you kidding me? He implied that MSNBC, CNN and most other news sources don't blatantly disregard facts. They make a living off of disregarding facts.

No, I am not kidding you. You did to him exactly what Fox is accused of doing in this thread. That is hilarious!!

AUTaxMan
06-25-2012, 05:33 PM
No, I am not kidding you. You did to him exactly what Fox is accused of doing in this thread. That is hilarious!!

If I had quoted the whole post, my point would not have changed. Nothing was taken out of context.

INTIMADATOR2007
06-25-2012, 06:07 PM
...Fox News lets there veiwership numbers do the talking for them , Every night they have more viewers than all the big networks COMBINED . The american people make their choice EVERY NIGHT and its obvious they trust fox news more than any other. I mean look at NBC , within the last 6 months they have had to apoligize for there edits of very serious issues multiple times to benift there agenda..And the other 180 videos you speak of are more than likely straight from Media Matters who are PAID by Soros/democrats to get rid of Fox News....


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/06/25/How-Many-Deceptive-Edits-Before-Capus-Fired

duane1969
06-25-2012, 06:09 PM
Agreed.

However, unlike MSNBC, CNN, and most other news source.....what makes Fox News so bad is their blatant disregard for facts.

For god sakes their slogan is Fair and Balanced.....this is the biggest joke in American media....it really is!

If you think that MSNBC, CNN and most other news sources are innocent of doing this then you are in for a shock. There are numerous instances where this occurs on every news station and in every news group.

CNN intentionally misquoted Romney as saying ""I'm not concerned with the very poor" when he actually said "I'm not concerned with the very poor, we have a safety net for them."

Just a few days ago MSNBC edited a video of Romney to make it look like he is out of touch with common folks and had never been in a convenience store before. Andrea Mitchell took great pleasure in making fun of him. Turned out she was the true idiot. http://www.therightscoop.com/msnbc-caught-redhanded-smearing-romney-as-out-of-touch-by-selectively-editing-video/

I won't bother posting more. Every network and news agency does it. It is naive to think otherwise.

habsheaven
06-25-2012, 06:26 PM
If you think that MSNBC, CNN and most other news sources are innocent of doing this then you are in for a shock. There are numerous instances where this occurs on every news station and in every news group.

CNN intentionally misquoted Romney as saying ""I'm not concerned with the very poor" when he actually said "I'm not concerned with the very poor, we have a safety net for them."

Just a few days ago MSNBC edited a video of Romney to make it look like he is out of touch with common folks and had never been in a convenience store before. Andrea Mitchell took great pleasure in making fun of him. Turned out she was the true idiot. http://www.therightscoop.com/msnbc-caught-redhanded-smearing-romney-as-out-of-touch-by-selectively-editing-video/

I won't bother posting more. Every network and news agency does it. It is naive to think otherwise.

No one is claiming that other news channels don't do it. I think the thread is in reference to this particular immigration issue. As for who does it more; you really don't wont to go down that road.

INTIMADATOR2007
06-25-2012, 06:39 PM
No matter what fox news does or any other news provider says any way , Ol' Barack showed today he will just do as he pleases any way . With him saying he will not take any more calls from arizona on illeagals anyway, He just makes the rules up as he goes no matter what congress or the supreme court says .

*censored*
06-25-2012, 06:52 PM
The american people make their choice EVERY NIGHT and its obvious they trust fox news more than any other

Do they trust them?

Or do they watch because they want to sit back and point and laugh?

TV ratings mean nothing about trusting anything.

habsheaven
06-25-2012, 06:54 PM
Yeah, trust is a huge leap. Fox viewers watch Fox because Fox panders to their audience more than anyone else.

JustAlex
06-25-2012, 06:58 PM
If you think that MSNBC, CNN and most other news sources are innocent of doing this then you are in for a shock. There are numerous instances where this occurs on every news station and in every news group.

CNN intentionally misquoted Romney as saying ""I'm not concerned with the very poor" when he actually said "I'm not concerned with the very poor, we have a safety net for them."

Just a few days ago MSNBC edited a video of Romney to make it look like he is out of touch with common folks and had never been in a convenience store before. Andrea Mitchell took great pleasure in making fun of him. Turned out she was the true idiot. http://www.therightscoop.com/msnbc-caught-redhanded-smearing-romney-as-out-of-touch-by-selectively-editing-video/

I won't bother posting more. Every network and news agency does it. It is naive to think otherwise.
While I agree MSNBC and CNN also misinforms in order to pander to their base audience....

You gotta admit that having a slogan such as "FAIR AND BALANCED" is quite easily the stupidest move Fox News could ever do.

C'mon at least be honest and say you are a conservative, opinionated News source...

Of course if they did that then they would have to admit they are guilty of bias, and that's the last thing they want to do.


But it's so funny because they're so blatant in their way of presenting political news that no one (outside of delusional republicans) is buying what they are selling.

Quite frankly, I get ALL my news from the internet nowadays.

I don't watch MSNBC, CNN, or anything....they're NOT trustworthy at all.

sobersoul
06-25-2012, 07:03 PM
I think Fox News is the most watched because most Americans are mouth-breathing ignoramuses who would do anything to avoid creating their own opinions or ideals. Wait wait... that is just humans in general... never mind...carry on.

INTIMADATOR2007
06-25-2012, 07:15 PM
While I agree MSNBC and CNN also misinforms in order to pander to their base audience....

You gotta admit that having a slogan such as "FAIR AND BALANCED" is quite easily the stupidest move Fox News could ever do.

C'mon at least be honest and say you are a conservative, opinionated News source...

Of course if they did that then they would have to admit they are guilty of bias, and that's the last thing they want to do.


But it's so funny because they're so blatant in their way of presenting political news that no one (outside of delusional republicans) is buying what they are selling.

Quite frankly, I get ALL my news from the internet nowadays.

I don't watch MSNBC, CNN, or anything....they're NOT trustworthy at all.

The claim of being "Fair and Balanced" comes from having more than just republicans / conservatives on the network . Pretty much every panel fox has on is a mix of democrats / republicans . If you go watch NBC,MSNBC all they have is democrats contributors. Fox has the most liberals on than any other network has republicans on , Hence the "Fair and Balanced"

habsheaven
06-25-2012, 07:41 PM
The claim of being "Fair and Balanced" comes from having more than just republicans / conservatives on the network . Pretty much every panel fox has on is a mix of democrats / republicans . If you go watch NBC,MSNBC all they have is democrats contributors. Fox has the most liberals on than any other network has republicans on , Hence the "Fair and Balanced"

That simply is not true. CNN has both sides represented for every segment they do.

INTIMADATOR2007
06-25-2012, 08:49 PM
That simply is not true. CNN has both sides represented for every segment they do.

There ratings speak volumes about CNN..Nobody watches the channel.

habsheaven
06-25-2012, 09:01 PM
There ratings speak volumes about CNN..Nobody watches the channel.

Nobody watches that channel because it doesn't pander to either side's views. Intelligent viewers looking to hear both sides of an issue watch it. That's where it speaks volumes. We've all seen the studies on the intelligence of the average Fox viewer.

Kosmo kards
06-25-2012, 09:32 PM
MSNBC and Fox News are both extremly bais, so this comes as no suprise. Fox News has their constant Obama bashing and MSNBC has their constant Romney bashing. Although Romney was doing god's work at Bain Capitol :sign0020:

JustAlex
06-26-2012, 01:28 PM
I just want to say that the majority of young people 18-30 are moving more and more towards the Internet to get their news.

Also there's this:

http://www.politicususa.com/jon-stewart-fox-ratings.html

Jon Stewart's Daily Show gets higher ratings than EVERY SINGLE show on Fox News.

NY Sports Teams
06-26-2012, 01:53 PM
Nobody watches that channel because it doesn't pander to either side's views. Intelligent viewers looking to hear both sides of an issue watch it. That's where it speaks volumes. We've all seen the studies on the intelligence of the average Fox viewer.

ROTFLMAO...Rick

AUTaxMan
06-26-2012, 02:15 PM
ROTFLMAO...Rick

My thoughts exactly. Utter nonsense.

habsheaven
06-26-2012, 02:23 PM
My thoughts exactly. Utter nonsense.

How would 2 people who do not watch the channel know the content of its programs? Yeah, we can see who is spouting the nonsense. Keep trying though. It's entertaining to watch. :D:

AUTaxMan
06-26-2012, 02:58 PM
How would 2 people who do not watch the channel know the content of its programs? Yeah, we can see who is spouting the nonsense. Keep trying though. It's entertaining to watch. :D:

How do you know I don't watch it? I watch a little bit of all the news channels. Try again.

INTIMADATOR2007
06-26-2012, 04:14 PM
How would 2 people who do not watch the channel know the content of its programs? Yeah, we can see who is spouting the nonsense. Keep trying though. It's entertaining to watch. :D:

You did the same thing ...You probably only watch clips of fox news from the left wing spew sites...LOL

Wickabee
06-26-2012, 04:27 PM
The only "LOL" here is that this has turned into:
"Oh yeah, well you probably do this!"
"Oh yeah, well YOU probably do it too!"

It is slightly more cerebral than most political debates, though.

duane1969
06-26-2012, 05:11 PM
No one is claiming that other news channels don't do it. I think the thread is in reference to this particular immigration issue. As for who does it more; you really don't wont to go down that road.

I based my response on this:


Agreed.

However, unlike MSNBC, CNN, and most other news source.....what makes Fox News so bad is their blatant disregard for facts.

That looks to me like someone is claiming that other news sources don't do it and this is exclusively a FoxNews issue. It clearly isn't.

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The claim of being "Fair and Balanced" comes from having more than just republicans / conservatives on the network . Pretty much every panel fox has on is a mix of democrats / republicans . If you go watch NBC,MSNBC all they have is democrats contributors. Fox has the most liberals on than any other network has republicans on , Hence the "Fair and Balanced"

It also comes from the fact that FoxNews will go after a Republican just as quickly as a Democrat. On more than a few occasions FoxNews has called out Republicans for pandering to the left and for not being true to their word.


I just want to say that the majority of young people 18-30 are moving more and more towards the Internet to get their news.

Also there's this:

http://www.politicususa.com/jon-stewart-fox-ratings.html

Jon Stewart's Daily Show gets higher ratings than EVERY SINGLE show on Fox News.

The internet is full of just as much bias and deliberate lies. Not too long ago I found an article that HuffPost had blatantly lied on. Within hours it had been blogged and linked to by dozens of people and popped up on like 40 or 50 searches on Google.

And Jon Stewart getting ratings over news shows isn't exactly a big deal. Comparing the ratings of a comedy show to the ratings of a dry business/political show is pretty unfair. Stewart's show has a rating of 2.3...what about news shows on liberal biased channels? How do they stack up? My guess is they stack up just as poorly because they are not the same type of show.

All the idiot that wrote that article did was prove that he doesn't comprehend ratings. I guess if I blog about how Dancing with the Stars has better ratings than liberal news shows that it will prove how dumb and lame those news shows are, right?



The only "LOL" here is that this has turned into:
"Oh yeah, well you probably do this!"
"Oh yeah, well YOU probably do it too!"

It is slightly more cerebral than most political debates, though.

+1

INTIMADATOR2007
06-26-2012, 05:19 PM
The only "LOL" here is that this has turned into:
"Oh yeah, well you probably do this!"
"Oh yeah, well YOU probably do it too!"

It is slightly more cerebral than most political debates, though.

I'm guilty , I apologize..LOL

Wickabee
06-26-2012, 05:54 PM
I'm guilty , I apologize..LOL
Dude, it's a political debate on a message board. Apologies do nothing but show weakness. Now that you've apologized for something, your opinion is worthless for the next 3 weeks.:winking0071:
Don't do it again.:fighting0050:

As to John Stewart, I am a HUGE fan of his. I don't always totally agree with him, and he is obviously biased, but he isn't guilty of exclusively calling out Republicans on their BS. He takes Obama and the Democrats to task when they're being @$$hats. I think he's a very smart man, an excellent TV host and in the upper echelon of today's comedians.

With that said, he is in no way a news source of any kind. When polls showed he was not only a news source but the most trusted news source, I had to laugh.

But yeah, huge, HUGE fan.

JustAlex
06-26-2012, 06:09 PM
And Jon Stewart getting ratings over news shows isn't exactly a big deal. Comparing the ratings of a comedy show to the ratings of a dry business/political show is pretty unfair. Stewart's show has a rating of 2.3...what about news shows on liberal biased channels? How do they stack up? My guess is they stack up just as poorly because they are not the same type of show.

LOL, it DOES matter.

Jon Stewart's show is not just a "comedy show", it's political satire and it gets more viewers than a Supposedly REAL news station.

I won't defend CNN, MSNBC or anyone else, I DON'T watch those channels but at least they don't have the hypocritical slogan of "Fair and Balanced".


There's a reason why Fox News is "#1" in News.....Young people don't bother with these terrible News stations anymore they have moved on to a better balanced/reliable sources.

"The Young Turks" for example constantly criticizes Obama and Republicans.

It's not surprising they have 350,000 Subscribers on YouTube alone and their videos have millions of views.

The Older republicans are the ones watching Fox News, they don't bother with the internet and thus they go to the source that is very biased towards their views....it's such a terrible shame!


I would admit that 4 years ago I was a biased Democrat watching MSNBC....

So what changed?

I realized it was a False Dichotomy, I realized that Obama was NOT who I imagined and hoped he would be.

Now I reject both parties and I get my news sources from REAL people who DON'T have agendas such as Cenk Uygur from the Young Turks, LiberalViewer who despite his name is actually quite fair towards republicans and shows amazing amounts of sources to support his statements.

and finally, YES, I get my news from Jon Stewart, because his satire show is much more informative and reliable than Fox News/MSNBC/CNN.

This is why American News media is so pathetic.....a Satire show is better made than the "real" news stations.

NY Sports Teams
06-26-2012, 10:08 PM
How would 2 people who do not watch the channel know the content of its programs? Yeah, we can see who is spouting the nonsense. Keep trying though. It's entertaining to watch. :D:

I'm glad you think you know what I watch and don't watch. First of all, I don't believe ANY of those channels are news channels. Each and every one have an agenda. 99% of those channels are geared toward liberals. I guess liberals know best and want every channel to cater to their beliefs, just as Democrats believe they know best on how to spend my money. Now and then I get great amusement watching the alien looking dude (James Carville) talk. It really amazes me how someone from a different planet has such a grasp of the English language. I really don't watch any of the channels too much mainly because of the partisan bickering. If I do I'll watch Fox as they more closely resemble my views as a staunch conservative.

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss22/NY_Sports_Teams/Misc/James_Carville-1.jpg
YOU BE THE JUDGE...

...Rick

duane1969
06-27-2012, 11:26 AM
LOL, it DOES matter.

Jon Stewart's show is not just a "comedy show", it's political satire and it gets more viewers than a Supposedly REAL news station.

It is relevant. Nobody compares comedy shows and news shows and their ratings. The Nielsen ratings people don't even do that unless they are airing in the same time slot. Comparing a show that is designed for comedic value to a show that is reporting news is just silly.


I won't defend CNN, MSNBC or anyone else, I DON'T watch those channels but at least they don't have the hypocritical slogan of "Fair and Balanced".

I am sorry that the term "Fair and Balanced" bothers you so much. I have never heard of a slogan being that big of an issue for someone before.



There's a reason why Fox News is "#1" in News.....Young people don't bother with these terrible News stations anymore they have moved on to a better balanced/reliable sources.

"The Young Turks" for example constantly criticizes Obama and Republicans.

It's not surprising they have 350,000 Subscribers on YouTube alone and their videos have millions of views.

The Older republicans are the ones watching Fox News, they don't bother with the internet and thus they go to the source that is very biased towards their views....it's such a terrible shame!

One, FoxNews beats other news stations by more than just a few viewers and it has nothing to do with the internet. Foxnews has a viewing audience that is larger than all other news stations combined. I just looked at the Nielsen ratings yesterday and was shocked at how many more people watch FoxNews. If you add up the viewers of primetime shows on CNN, MSNBC,

Two, YoungTurks having 350,000 subscribers is not that big of a deal and hardly speaks that people are turning away from television broadcasts. 350k subscribers represents 1/5th of the nightly primetime viewers of FoxNews and 1/3rd of the nightly primetime viewers of MSNBC. Their number of videos watched is impressive but skewed since they get credit for a watch even if the video just starts to download and the person then clicks elsewhere or if the video is posted someplace like this forum where people watch it without actually being a YoungTurks fan. I myself have watched several of their videos that were posted here but have never been to their Youtube page before.

Using your logic...last week Pawn Stars got a higher rating than every liberal news show on cable. What a joke those liberal blwo-hards are. How pathetic must they be when people would rather watch a blad guy buy junk?


I would admit that 4 years ago I was a biased Democrat watching MSNBC....

So what changed?

I realized it was a False Dichotomy, I realized that Obama was NOT who I imagined and hoped he would be.

Now I reject both parties and I get my news sources from REAL people who DON'T have agendas such as Cenk Uygur from the Young Turks, LiberalViewer who despite his name is actually quite fair towards republicans and shows amazing amounts of sources to support his statements.

and finally, YES, I get my news from Jon Stewart, because his satire show is much more informative and reliable than Fox News/MSNBC/CNN.

This is why American News media is so pathetic.....a Satire show is better made than the "real" news stations.

Gotta disagree with the bolded part. It only takes a quick search to see that you always attack the conservative component and rarely attack the liberal one. You may not call yourself Democrat but you clearly support the Democratic agenda and positions.

Wickabee
06-27-2012, 01:40 PM
LOL, it DOES matter.

Jon Stewart's show is not just a "comedy show", it's political satire and it gets more viewers than a Supposedly REAL news station.

I won't defend CNN, MSNBC or anyone else, I DON'T watch those channels but at least they don't have the hypocritical slogan of "Fair and Balanced".


There's a reason why Fox News is "#1" in News.....Young people don't bother with these terrible News stations anymore they have moved on to a better balanced/reliable sources.

"The Young Turks" for example constantly criticizes Obama and Republicans.

It's not surprising they have 350,000 Subscribers on YouTube alone and their videos have millions of views.

The Older republicans are the ones watching Fox News, they don't bother with the internet and thus they go to the source that is very biased towards their views....it's such a terrible shame!


I would admit that 4 years ago I was a biased Democrat watching MSNBC....

So what changed?

I realized it was a False Dichotomy, I realized that Obama was NOT who I imagined and hoped he would be.

Now I reject both parties and I get my news sources from REAL people who DON'T have agendas such as Cenk Uygur from the Young Turks, LiberalViewer who despite his name is actually quite fair towards republicans and shows amazing amounts of sources to support his statements.

and finally, YES, I get my news from Jon Stewart, because his satire show is much more informative and reliable than Fox News/MSNBC/CNN.

This is why American News media is so pathetic.....a Satire show is better made than the "real" news stations.
When I got to the bolded part, you lost any credibility you had in my mind. I'm a huge Stewart fan and I watch the show 4 nights a week, but to use John Stewart to inform yourself? That's just sad.

AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 02:10 PM
When I got to the bolded part, you lost any credibility you had in my mind. I'm a huge Stewart fan and I watch the show 4 nights a week, but to use John Stewart to inform yourself? That's just sad.

Seriously on both shows. Claiming that the Young Turks is unbiased is also pretty outlandish.

JustAlex
06-27-2012, 05:11 PM
Gotta disagree with the bolded part. It only takes a quick search to see that you always attack the conservative component and rarely attack the liberal one. You may not call yourself Democrat but you clearly support the Democratic agenda and positions.

Yes, I am a LIBERAL, however being a liberal does NOT mean I'm a democrat.

You CAN have a liberal who rejects the democratic party.

Why?

Because I personally believe that the Democratic party is NOT liberal at all, they are COWARDS, and center-Right in my mind, the policies from Obama definitely show that.


When I got to the bolded part, you lost any credibility you had in my mind. I'm a huge Stewart fan and I watch the show 4 nights a week, but to use John Stewart to inform yourself? That's just sad.

Wait a minute....

I didn't say I get ALL my news from Jon Stewart.

I clearly listed "The Young Turks" and "LiberalViewer" as some of my main references.

But I have to disagree with you as well.

Jon Stewart might be satire, but he DOES deliver plenty of REAL news mostly from his interviews.

I think you can see that his interviews ARE legitimate and he does a great job at it.

Seriously though.....If I had to choose between Fox News and Jon Stewart, then you know where I'm going to go.



Seriously on both shows. Claiming that the Young Turks is unbiased is also pretty outlandish.
Unbaised???

NO!

However, do they attack BOTH sides.....YES!

and they don't put a HYPOCRITICAL slogan like "Fair and Balanced".

For god sake, seriously, how can ANYONE watch Fox News and believe that?

Wickabee
06-27-2012, 06:46 PM
Wait a minute....

I didn't say I get ALL my news from Jon Stewart.

I clearly listed "The Young Turks" and "LiberalViewer" as some of my main references.

But I have to disagree with you as well.

Jon Stewart might be satire, but he DOES deliver plenty of REAL news mostly from his interviews.

I think you can see that his interviews ARE legitimate and he does a great job at it.

Seriously though.....If I had to choose between Fox News and Jon Stewart, then you know where I'm going to go.


Given that choice, I'd take Stewart too. And, to be fair, you said "I get my news from John Stewart" so I don't know how else to take that. I have to say, though, that while he doesn't make up news, it's a fake news show. He doesn't "report" anything. At best one could say he does opinion/editorial pieces. I love his show, I agree with most of what he says, but he's not a "news source" for me, even though he does talk about some things I haven't heard about before (I learned about Fast & Furious from Stewart). To use John Stewart as a source for your news instead of watching it for what it is, comedic political commentary or satire, is not a good way to keep yourself informed at all. He presents a viewpoint and nothing more.

I will agree that he is one of the best interviewers around, comedian or not. Personally, I think he wishes he'd become a legit journalist and that's why he comments more on the actual news sources (FOX, MSNBC, CNN, et al) than he does on actual politics.

JustAlex
06-27-2012, 10:43 PM
Given that choice, I'd take Stewart too. And, to be fair, you said "I get my news from John Stewart" so I don't know how else to take that.

Fair enough.

I guess I should have said "I also get some of my news from Jon Stewart...."


He doesn't "report" anything. At best one could say he does opinion/editorial pieces. I love his show, I agree with most of what he says, but he's not a "news source" for me, even though he does talk about some things I haven't heard about before (I learned about Fast & Furious from Stewart). To use John Stewart as a source for your news instead of watching it for what it is, comedic political commentary or satire, is not a good way to keep yourself informed at all. He presents a viewpoint and nothing more.

OK, but if you did learn about 'Fast & Furious' from him and he does present excellent interviews while talking about current topics....would you not say you are being informed by him?

I would....

I won't disagree with you about the "Fake news" part, I agree, it is fake and comedic and satire.

But it doesn't change the fact that I AM being informed on current events.....and like you said, he is NOT making stuff up...


I will agree that he is one of the best interviewers around, comedian or not. Personally, I think he wishes he'd become a legit journalist and that's why he comments more on the actual news sources (FOX, MSNBC, CNN, et al) than he does on actual politics.

I think if Jon Stewart did become a real reporter he would be great at it because you can really see how much he cares about it.

But at the same time it wouldn't be as good as "The Daily Show".

Wickabee
06-27-2012, 10:57 PM
Well, I learned what a palindrome is from Dilton in an Archie comic, but that doesn't make it a textbook.

Same thing with Stewart. I find out about new things I was unaware of from time to time, but that doesn't make it an educational or informative show. In the arena of entertainment it is, but we're talking about legitimate reporting which even Stewart will tell you he has no part of.