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Gorillawits
06-26-2012, 12:12 AM
I commented on an athiests love of abortion and was told I should start my own thread, a heathen said he wanted to debate me.

Abortion is a form of child sacrafice to many occultists, pagans and Drs like Tiller who worship Molech and other dietys. The heathen use "over population" as an excuse to justify it. (maybe the heathen have never been to South Dakota to see what under population realy looks like)

The majoritiy of abortions are just the fact men and women do not want to be acountable for having sex. A sad thing is God gave us modern ways to be sterilized if people did not want to have children. You can also get your sperm and egg frozed then be sterolized and be able to have children in the future. But that is not good enough for abortionists if death is not involved. Occultists beleive "death brings life".

In case of rape, the rapist should be executed or at least lose their freedom and be forced to work to pay for the child. Abortions are rarely needed to save the life of the mother, but that small number is often used by the heathen to justify birth control abortions.


The bible makes it clear if you strike a pregnent women and she gives premature birth you are to pay a fine. If the child dies the person is to be executed. It also makes it clear, it is child in the womb, it is not a "fetus or parasite" as the heathen claim to justify murder.

shrewsbury
06-26-2012, 08:47 AM
heathens?

just because somebody does not agree with you or believe in your god does not make them a heathen, sounds like islam not christianity

pghin08
06-26-2012, 08:49 AM
I commented on an athiests love of abortion and was told I should start my own thread, a heathen said he wanted to debate me.

Abortion is a form of child sacrafice to many occultists, pagans and Drs like Tiller who worship Molech and other dietys. The heathen use "over population" as an excuse to justify it. (maybe the heathen have never been to South Dakota to see what under population realy looks like)

The majoritiy of abortions are just the fact men and women do not want to be acountable for having sex. A sad thing is God gave us modern ways to be sterilized if people did not want to have children. You can also get your sperm and egg frozed then be sterolized and be able to have children in the future. But that is not good enough for abortionists if death is not involved. Occultists beleive "death brings life".

In case of rape, the rapist should be executed or at least lose their freedom and be forced to work to pay for the child. Abortions are rarely needed to save the life of the mother, but that small number is often used by the heathen to justify birth control abortions.


The bible makes it clear if you strike a pregnent women and she gives premature birth you are to pay a fine. If the child dies the person is to be executed. It also makes it clear, it is child in the womb, it is not a "fetus or parasite" as the heathen claim to justify murder.

Pretty sure no one "loves" abortion.

habsheaven
06-26-2012, 09:21 AM
I commented on an athiests love of abortion and was told I should start my own thread, a heathen said he wanted to debate me.

*In walks the heathen.*

Abortion is a form of child sacrafice to many occultists, pagans and Drs like Tiller who worship Molech and other dietys. The heathen use "over population" as an excuse to justify it. (maybe the heathen have never been to South Dakota to see what under population realy looks like)

Not sure why you included this paragraph when you actually know the reason for most abortions because you state it below.

The majoritiy of abortions are just the fact men and women do not want to be acountable for having sex. A sad thing is God gave us modern ways to be sterilized if people did not want to have children. You can also get your sperm and egg frozed then be sterolized and be able to have children in the future. But that is not good enough for abortionists if death is not involved. Occultists beleive "death brings life".

God didn't give us modern ways to sterilize people. That was science. And again, why are you talking about occultists? Are you implying that everyone that chooses abortion does so because they LIKE it?

In case of rape, the rapist should be executed or at least lose their freedom and be forced to work to pay for the child. Abortions are rarely needed to save the life of the mother, but that small number is often used by the heathen to justify birth control abortions.

Which is it, executed or given a job so they can support the child? I assume you are against abortion in the case of rape? That's good and consistent anyway.


The bible makes it clear if you strike a pregnent women and she gives premature birth you are to pay a fine. If the child dies the person is to be executed. It also makes it clear, it is child in the womb, it is not a "fetus or parasite" as the heathen claim to justify murder.

Heathens do not claim it to be a fetus, science does.



Responses in bold.

sobersoul
06-26-2012, 09:28 AM
Ok, Gorillawits, who peed in your corn flakes this morning? If there is such a thing as occultists ... then I am pretty sure they are just the odd kids in high school with dyed black hair... nothing to be afraid of.

JustAlex
06-26-2012, 01:18 PM
Oh boy....I gotta hold back on this one.

I'll just say that I'm VERY PROUD to be a Godless Heathen :D:

Wickabee
06-26-2012, 01:25 PM
I commented on an athiests love of abortion and was told I should start my own thread, a heathen said he wanted to debate me.

This sentence alone tells me everything I need to know about this post.

1 - It was written by a very arrogant person.
2 - It's not worth reading the rest.

*censored*
06-26-2012, 02:48 PM
This sentence alone tells me everything I need to know about this post.

1 - It was written by a very arrogant person.
2 - It's not worth reading the rest.

To quote someone else...

CHURCH!!! :love0030:

mrveggieman
06-26-2012, 02:49 PM
I am against abortion despite being falsely accused of being pro abortion by one of my good friends on here. I think the heathens remark is a little over the top but I get what the OP is trying to get at.

habsheaven
06-26-2012, 03:02 PM
I am against abortion despite being falsely accused of being pro abortion by one of my good friends on here. I think the heathens remark is a little over the top but I get what the OP is trying to get at.

I think your good friend accused you of being pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I have yet to see anyone on these forums that is pro-abortion, even amongst the heathens.

Wickabee
06-26-2012, 04:11 PM
I think your good friend accused you of being pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I have yet to see anyone on these forums that is pro-abortion, even amongst the heathens.
I have seen a few who don't know the difference.

Star_Cards
06-26-2012, 04:24 PM
I commented on an athiests love of abortion and was told I should start my own thread, a heathen said he wanted to debate me.

Abortion is a form of child sacrafice to many occultists, pagans and Drs like Tiller who worship Molech and other dietys. The heathen use "over population" as an excuse to justify it. (maybe the heathen have never been to South Dakota to see what under population realy looks like)

The majoritiy of abortions are just the fact men and women do not want to be acountable for having sex. A sad thing is God gave us modern ways to be sterilized if people did not want to have children. You can also get your sperm and egg frozed then be sterolized and be able to have children in the future. But that is not good enough for abortionists if death is not involved. Occultists beleive "death brings life".

In case of rape, the rapist should be executed or at least lose their freedom and be forced to work to pay for the child. Abortions are rarely needed to save the life of the mother, but that small number is often used by the heathen to justify birth control abortions.


The bible makes it clear if you strike a pregnent women and she gives premature birth you are to pay a fine. If the child dies the person is to be executed. It also makes it clear, it is child in the womb, it is not a "fetus or parasite" as the heathen claim to justify murder.


as an atheist myself I do not love abortion, as you claim above. I'm not exactly sure where you get that and I'm not exactly sure why you think it's only atheists who are pro choice. There are a lot of christian people in this country who are pro choice and think that abortion should be legal to some degree. Quite simply there are very small numbers of atheists in the United States and there are far more people who are pro choice when compared to the number of atheists.

Another thing, pro choice is not the same things as loving abortion. it's not even close.

Most importantly, as far as what the bible says about an unborn baby, fetus or otherwise, that really has zero bearing on what United States law should say. A religious text has no business governing laws in a country where we are free to believe as we wish.

Star_Cards
06-26-2012, 04:26 PM
I think your good friend accused you of being pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I have yet to see anyone on these forums that is pro-abortion, even amongst the heathens.

well said. I have yet to meet a person who is pro abortion and never read where veggie was classified as pro abortion.

Gorillawits
06-26-2012, 04:36 PM
*In walks the heathen.*


Not sure why you included this paragraph when you actually know the reason for most abortions because you state it below.

God didn't give us modern ways to sterilize people. That was science. And again, why are you talking about occultists? Are you implying that everyone that chooses abortion does so because they LIKE it?

Which is it, executed or given a job so they can support the child? I assume you are against abortion in the case of rape? That's good and consistent anyway.

Heathens do not claim it to be a fetus, science does




I included the Occult because the main people who pushed to legalize abortion in the first place, were mostly oculltists those who wanted open child sacarfice. Part of Socialist Eugenics movement became planned parenthood.

By claiming "secular science" gave us steralization are you saying big bang told us how to do it?

To answer your rape queston based on the bible. A rapist is suppose to be killed, but God made it clear if a man repented he wanted their lives to be spared. Even if you repent you still need to be punished for the crime you did. So it would only be fair to make the man work some how to pay for the child and compinsate the woman he violated. I have seen prisons with work release programs where ther man goes out and works then come back to jail for the night.

Science shows it is a living breathing child, "secular science" calls it a "fetus".

Star_Cards
06-26-2012, 04:41 PM
I included the Occult because the main people who pushed to legalize abortion in the first place, were mostly oculltists those who wanted open child sacarfice. Part of Socialist Eugenics movement became planned parenthood.

By claiming "secular science" gave us steralization are you saying big bang told us how to do it?

To answer your rape queston based on the bible. A rapist is suppose to be killed, but God made it clear if a man repented he wanted their lives to be spared. Even if you repent you still need to be punished for the crime you did. So it would only be fair to make the man work some how to pay for the child and compinsate the woman he violated. I have seen prisons with work release programs where ther man goes out and works then come back to jail for the night.

Science shows it is a living breathing child, "secular science" calls it a "fetus".

The fact that you are claiming people who want abortion to be legal are for it because they are into some sort of child sacrifice absolutely kills your credibility in my opinion.

Wickabee
06-26-2012, 04:46 PM
The fact that you are claiming people who want abortion to be legal are for it because they are into some sort of child sacrifice absolutely kills your credibility in my opinion.
Really? I thought it was killed with the first post when he mentioned the "abortion-loving atheists"

Star_Cards
06-26-2012, 04:53 PM
Really? I thought it was killed with the first post when he mentioned the "abortion-loving atheists"

lol. it was teetering. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a bit.

Gorillawits
06-26-2012, 04:56 PM
as an atheist myself I do not love abortion, as you claim above. I'm not exactly sure where you get that and I'm not exactly sure why you think it's only atheists who are pro choice. There are a lot of christian people in this country who are pro choice and think that abortion should be legal to some degree. Quite simply there are very small numbers of atheists in the United States and there are far more people who are pro choice when compared to the number of atheists.

Another thing, pro choice is not the same things as loving abortion. it's not even close.

Most importantly, as far as what the bible says about an unborn baby, fetus or otherwise, that really has zero bearing on what United States law should say. A religious text has no business governing laws in a country where we are free to believe as we wish.

If you support abortion, that means you love it. You are either for it or agianst it. If you didn't love it, then you would oppose it. Being lukewarm on the issue, is just as bad as supporting it.

The foundation of constitution was based the bible and at the time it was written a unborn child was considered one of those who had inalienable rights. Just as you are free to "beleive" as you wish does not give you the right to murder a child.


Doesn't matter how many people claim to be christians that support abortion. The Judaists claim to be God's people as well, but neither of these groups can change the will of God and what He says that is good and evil.

Agnostics, Athiests, Feminiasts, Liberal, Neo conservative, moderate all these groups tend to have the same goal-alliance. Reject Jesus and oppose the bible.

Gorillawits
06-26-2012, 04:58 PM
The fact that you are claiming people who want abortion to be legal are for it because they are into some sort of child sacrifice absolutely kills your credibility in my opinion.

So you are claming no one worhsips Molech anymore? Because we have satalites and TVs, human sacrafice went extinct? Are rape and murder extinct now as well, because we have cars?

*censored*
06-26-2012, 05:40 PM
I think I speak for a lot of people here when I say...

http://omgdroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jackie-chan-meme.jpg

Wickabee
06-26-2012, 05:46 PM
I think I speak for a lot of people here when I say...

http://omgdroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jackie-chan-meme.jpg
Yes!

Gorilla, are you saying that anyone who isn't vehemently against abortion is for it? Because, I am personally against abortion, but I don't see it being an issue the government should decide for us, because I don't consider a fetus any more a person than I consider a seed to be a flower. Obviously, we disagree on this issue, but it does NOT mean I am "for" abortion. In reality, being "for abortion" would mean I want abortions for everyone all the time. I do not want that. I am pro choice in that I believe it's an issue of personal moral and not one of law.

So by my definition I am in now way for abortion. By your definition am I? I ask because if your definition of for abortion includes people like me, then there's no point in talking.

Gorillawits
06-26-2012, 05:48 PM
I think I speak for a lot of people here when I say...



Yes if you do not appose abortion that means you support-love it, plain and simple. There is no inbetween on the issue.

In reply to your photo you posted.

"I jackie chan, I do my own stunt, I super action supastar".

*censored*
06-26-2012, 05:54 PM
Okay, how about you settle down and stay on the topic of your own thread there, Gorillawits.

Wickabee
06-26-2012, 05:57 PM
Yes if you do not appose abortion that means you support-love it, plain and simple. There is no inbetween on the issue.

Speaking on youe photo you posted. Jackie Chan hates the US, but loves making millions of dollars off people going to his movies.

"I jackie chan, I do my own stunt, I super action supastar".
So, you oppose abortion and therefor are part of a solution. Okay...so how do you feel about racism?

Gorillawits
06-26-2012, 06:06 PM
So, you oppose abortion and therefor are part of a solution. Okay...so how do you feel about racism?

Racism is not good, but making fun of somone's dubbed in voice in a movie does not make you a racist. That whole movie kung Po enter the fist comedy was making fun of English voices dubbed in asian movies. Iuse to see peopel make fun of voices dubbed in Godzilla movies all the time.

Make fun of European movies dubbed in voices as well.

ALADOG
06-26-2012, 06:21 PM
Yes!

Gorilla, are you saying that anyone who isn't vehemently against abortion is for it? Because, I am personally against abortion, but I don't see it being an issue the government should decide for us, because I don't consider a fetus any more a person than I consider a seed to be a flower. Obviously, we disagree on this issue, but it does NOT mean I am "for" abortion. In reality, being "for abortion" would mean I want abortions for everyone all the time. I do not want that. I am pro choice in that I believe it's an issue of personal moral and not one of law.

So by my definition I am in now way for abortion. By your definition am I? I ask because if your definition of for abortion includes people like me, then there's no point in talking.

You really are not so limited that you do not see that a seed and fetus are not alike at all. A seed is like sperm in a condom. A sprouted germinated plant is like a fetus. And you think the sprout is not a living plant?

ildd
06-26-2012, 06:24 PM
So you are claming no one worhsips Molech anymore? Because we have satalites and TVs, human sacrafice went extinct? Are rape and murder extinct now as well, because we have cars?
I can't make any connections here.
But i'm guessing an electric fan is equal to slaves?

habsheaven
06-26-2012, 06:49 PM
I included the Occult because the main people who pushed to legalize abortion in the first place, were mostly oculltists those who wanted open child sacarfice. Part of Socialist Eugenics movement became planned parenthood.

By claiming "secular science" gave us steralization are you saying big bang told us how to do it?

To answer your rape queston based on the bible. A rapist is suppose to be killed, but God made it clear if a man repented he wanted their lives to be spared. Even if you repent you still need to be punished for the crime you did. So it would only be fair to make the man work some how to pay for the child and compinsate the woman he violated. I have seen prisons with work release programs where ther man goes out and works then come back to jail for the night.

Science shows it is a living breathing child, "secular science" calls it a "fetus".

The Occult - I have no idea what the heck you are referring to. No doubt it's a vast conspiracy that has no place in reality, so I will leave it alone.

Big Bang - Big Bang is a theory about the creation of the universe. It has nothing to do with sterilization. Sterilization is something LEARNED through advances in science. FWIW, human beings TELL me things, not imaginary deities.

Rape & The Bible - I would expect nothing less from a book written by chauvinistic men in a time when women were nothing more than property. Fortunately society has progressed and women are now actual people with rights and considerations.

Secular science - nice term, I am sure it comes in useful in debates about religion. Hate to break it to you though. Science is science. Throwing secular in front of it to try and diminish it does not work with intelligent people.

habsheaven
06-26-2012, 06:53 PM
So you are claming no one worhsips Molech anymore? Because we have satalites and TVs, human sacrafice went extinct? Are rape and murder extinct now as well, because we have cars?

I think this comment here gives us some insight to how his mind works. Hard to debate with someone when they have stuff like this going around in their mind.

mrveggieman
06-27-2012, 08:04 AM
Most importantly, as far as what the bible says about an unborn baby, fetus or otherwise, that really has zero bearing on what United States law should say. A religious text has no business governing laws in a country where we are free to believe as we wish.


I actually agree that the bible or any other religious text should not be the basis of our laws. If someone needs a religious book to stop them from murdering someone (born or unborn) because they do not have enough common sense on their own to know it is wrong then they have a lot of serious issues.

shrewsbury
06-27-2012, 08:57 AM
good post veggie

ildd
06-27-2012, 09:09 AM
I actually agree that the bible or any other religious text should not be the basis of our laws. If someone needs a religious book to stop them from murdering someone (born or unborn) because they do not have enough common sense on their own to know it is wrong then they have a lot of serious issues.
Absolutely. the U.S. doesn't have a set National Religion(and i'm starting to think english isn't our national langauge either)

Gorillawits
06-27-2012, 09:28 AM
I actually agree that the bible or any other religious text should not be the basis of our laws. If someone needs a religious book to stop them from murdering someone (born or unborn) because they do not have enough common sense on their own to know it is wrong then they have a lot of serious issues.


That is a hypocritcal statement as you support murder as long as it is done for secular reasons based on your faith in no god.

ildd
06-27-2012, 09:32 AM
That is a hypocritcal statement as you support murder as long as it is done for secular reasons based on your faith in no god.
Where the hell did he say he supported murder?:pound:

Gorillawits
06-27-2012, 09:41 AM
Where the hell did he say he supported murder?:pound:


He opposes the bible, meaning he wants secularism to rule, which leads dicatorship which leads to genocide. So he is not realy against abortion. Why does he think abortion became legal in the first place? Because people that hated the bible pushed for abortion.

That is like voting for Hitler and saying you support the Jews at the same time.

AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 09:42 AM
I have been avoiding this thread for lack on interest, but man have I been missing out on some high quality entertainment.

pghin08
06-27-2012, 09:47 AM
He opposes the bible, meaning he wants secularism to rule, which leads dicatorship which leads to genocide. So he is not realy against abortion. Why does he think abortion became legal in the first place? Because people that hated the bible pushed for abortion.

That is like voting for Hitler and saying you support the Jews at the same time.

Are you saying you don't think Veggie is a true Christian?

ildd
06-27-2012, 09:49 AM
He opposes the bible, meaning he wants secularism to rule, which leads dicatorship which leads to genocide. So he is not realy against abortion. Why does he think abortion became legal in the first place? Because people that hated the bible pushed for abortion.

That is like voting for Hitler and saying you support the Jews at the same time.
Even if he does oppose the Bible, i'm sure he has some viewpoints of a lot of christians. And i'm honestly not sure where abortion leads to dictatorships and genocides, but I guess i can tie it together...

shrewsbury
06-27-2012, 09:56 AM
This has gone the way of the "ancient astronaut theory", which can be entertaining, some of it sounds cool, but really it is just a bunch of time wasting nonsense.

Gorillawits
06-27-2012, 10:10 AM
Where the hell did he say he supported murder?:pound:


Even if he does oppose the Bible, i'm sure he has some viewpoints of a lot of christians. And i'm honestly not sure where abortion leads to dictatorships and genocides, but I guess i can tie it together...


Well the same year abortion was legalized 1973 what happend? Nixon started trade with "China". Then in 2000 Bill Clinton signed the "China one way trade agreement" and a recession started in late 2001 after year of outsourcing American jobs. Now we are deep into debt with China. Now China is buying our banks. Clinton already sold many of out ports and the media chose to cover the OJ Simpson case instead of Clinton selling off the ports. (by the way I a am pretty sure OJ was not guilty)

So why are we going under financialy as a nation? Because of corruption and having the federal reserve backstab us an borrow money to cover the loses from the massive trade deficit to China.

Get the connection yet? Abortion Leagalized then suddenly we befriend communist China and start handing them money on a silver platter.

Edit:
Did you know what the ancient Spartans use to do? If they did not like their babies they would toss them off cliffs and look how long they lasted before the Their Greek neigbors overcame them.

God used the Roman's to punish the Greeks just as he used the Greeks to punish the Perisans and the Perisians the Babylonians.

God used the Uniteds States to stick it to British Empire's quest to conquor the world and to bring Israel back as a nation. Now God is using China to stick it to the United States and that is why the China one way trade agreement will never be closed. Abortion was a huge part of this and Bill Clinton vetoed a partial birth abortion bill in the 90's.

MadMan1978
06-27-2012, 10:13 AM
Absolutely. the U.S. doesn't have a set National Religion(and i'm starting to think english isn't our national langauge either)


Actually you are correct in that statement.

pghin08
06-27-2012, 10:16 AM
Well the same year abortion was legalized 1973 what happend? Nixon started trade with "China". Then in 2000 Bill Clinton signed the "China one way trade agreement" and a recession started in late 2001 after year of outsourcing American jobs. Now we are deep into debt with China. Now China is buying our banks. Clinton already sold many of out ports and the media chose to cover the OJ Simpson case instead of Clinton selling off the ports. (by the way I a am pretty sure OJ was not guilty)

So why are we going under financialy as a nation? Because of corruption and having the federal reserve backstab us an borrow money to cover the loses from the massive trade deficit to China.

Get the connection yet? Abortion Leagalized then suddenly we befriend communist China and start handing them money on a silver platter.

Did you know what the ancient Greeks use to do? If they did not like their babies they would toss them off cliffs and look how long they lasted before the Roman's enslaved them. The Greeks were just as powerful as the Roman's, they only lost because their empire split into four iimdieaty after Aleander died and the Roman's conquored their ununified Empire one peice at a time.

God used the Roman's to punish the Greeks just as he used the Greeks to punish the Perisans and the Perisians the Babylonians.

God used the Uniteds States to stick it to British Empire's quest to conquor the world and to bring Israel back as a nation. Now God is using China to stick it to the United States and that is why the China one way trade agreement will never be closed. Abortion was a huge part of this and Bill Clinton vetoed a partial birth abortion bill in the 90's.

Not that I at all see the connection between Roe v. Wade and China, but Nixon actually went to China in 1972, prior to the ruling in Roe v. Wade.

mrveggieman
06-27-2012, 10:23 AM
That is a hypocritcal statement as you support murder as long as it is done for secular reasons based on your faith in no god.


Please show me my posting where I said that I support the murder of anyone. For the last time I am 100% anti abortion just like you. Believe it or not people can be against abortion, believe in God all while not being fanatical about it.

*censored*
06-27-2012, 10:34 AM
After reading this thread all I can say is...

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...

...

Wow. Congrats. You have left me speechless.

Actually, I'm starting to think Gorillamitts is right on everything. Also, the King of Sweden is using my genitals as a radio tower to send anti-semitic lesbian meatloaf recipes to Al Roker and Lyle Lovett.

Gorillawits
06-27-2012, 10:37 AM
Not that I at all see the connection between Roe v. Wade and China, but Nixon actually went to China in 1972, prior to the ruling in Roe v. Wade.

Wow I was off by a several months. Must mean there is no God.

habsheaven
06-27-2012, 10:37 AM
And here I thought this was just going to be another in a long list of abortion threads re-hashing the same old opinions. Wow, was I wrong. lol

Gorillawits
06-27-2012, 10:39 AM
Please show me my posting where I said that I support the murder of anyone. For the last time I am 100% anti abortion just like you. Believe it or not people can be against abortion, believe in God all while not being fanatical about it.


How can you be "against abortion" when you want to see people who support abortion get into power?

*censored*
06-27-2012, 10:41 AM
How can you be "against abortion" when you want to see people who support abortion get into power?

Probably the same way that you can claim to be a Christian while also being this board's most judgmental figure.

Just a theory.

Gorillawits
06-27-2012, 10:42 AM
Probably the same way that you can claim to be a Christian while also being this board's most judgmental figure.

Just a theory.

Your judegment is off, because you have not studied. The bible says we can jugde as long, as we do it with the truth.

You can't cut this out of the bible, because you do not like it
John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment

shrewsbury
06-27-2012, 10:43 AM
God used the Roman's to punish the Greeks just as he used the Greeks to punish the Perisans and the Perisians the Babylonians.

God used the Uniteds States to stick it to British Empire's quest to conquor the world and to bring Israel back as a nation. Now God is using China to stick it to the United States and that is why the China one way trade agreement will never be closed. Abortion was a huge part of this and Bill Clinton vetoed a partial birth abortion bill in the 90's.

Well according to your logic: if you believe in the bible you must believe in freewill, if you do not believe in freewill, then you must not believe in anything in the bible. And if you believe in freewill then God has no reason to do anything you stated above.

Gorillawits
06-27-2012, 10:46 AM
Well according to your logic: if you believe in the bible you must believe in freewill, if you do not believe in freewill, then you must not believe in anything in the bible. And if you believe in freewill then God has no reason to do anything you stated above.


So you are using your freewill to reject Jesus and go into vain philosophy.

Why do you call on Socrate's logic, instead of Christ's guidance? I don't use logic, I wait for the guidance of the Holy Spirit who came into my heart at two years old.

*censored*
06-27-2012, 10:47 AM
Your judegment is off, because you have not studied. The bible says we can jugde as long, as we do it with the truth.

You can't cut this out of the bible, because you do not like it
John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment

I counter you with Matthew 7:1. "Judge not, lest ye be judged."

habsheaven
06-27-2012, 10:51 AM
So you are using your freewill to reject Jesus and go into vain philosophy.

Why do you call on Socrate's logic, instead of Christ's guidance? I don't use logic, I wait for the guidance of the Holy Spirit who came into my heart at two years old.

Finally!!! You have said something that I can agree with.:smokin:

Gorillawits
06-27-2012, 10:56 AM
I counter you with Matthew 7:1. "Judge not, lest ye be judged."



You left this out.
Matthew 7:2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you

It is not saying it is wrong to judge. It is saying God will judge us the exact way we judge others. That is why I make sure I judge with the truth. And you are aguing with me, because you do not like the truth so you trying to find a way around it.

BTW: Like your stick figure avatar.

*censored*
06-27-2012, 11:00 AM
Again. Get some help, son.

Gorillawits
06-27-2012, 11:03 AM
Again. Get some help, son.

Its getten to you, maybe someday this seed will grow into something. It took my aunt on her deathbed dying from cancer to repent the same day she died last December.

pghin08
06-27-2012, 11:09 AM
Enough, guys. Back to abortion or the thread gets closed.

habsheaven
06-27-2012, 11:13 AM
Enough, guys. Back to abortion or the thread gets closed.

Unbelievably, gorillawits thinks all his posts are about abortion. Just because the rest of us can't make the link doesn't mean it is not there. lol

*censored*
06-27-2012, 11:19 AM
Enough, guys. Back to abortion or the thread gets closed.

Stop trying to use your heathen logic with us, evildoer!

Rockman
06-27-2012, 11:31 AM
Enough, guys. Back to abortion or the thread gets closed.


Its getten to you, maybe someday this seed will grow into something.

Aborted.

Why would god favor a country that is largely not Christian? That theory is looney.

mrveggieman
06-27-2012, 12:03 PM
Enough, guys. Back to abortion or the thread gets closed.


Hey gorilla feel free to join this thread.

http://www.sportscardforum.com/showthread.php?p=11706151#post11706151