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AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 10:21 AM
Ignore the article (and its headline) and just watch the videos and draw your own conclusions. Has the entire interview. Worth watching all three segments, regardless of your political affiliation.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-jon-stewart-give-marco-rubio-an-endorsement/

pghin08
06-27-2012, 10:24 AM
I saw it, and really thought it was great too. I think Stewart is sort of an underrated interviewer in a sense, and I was truly impressed by Rubio.

AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 10:26 AM
I saw it, and really thought it was great too. I think Stewart is sort of an underrated interviewer in a sense, and I was truly impressed by Rubio.

He speaks in terms of solving problems, not merely identifying them. He is a leader.

pghin08
06-27-2012, 11:00 AM
He speaks in terms of solving problems, not merely identifying them. He is a leader.

Even if Romney doesn't take Rubio as his veep (I don't know why he wouldn't), Rubio has a really bright political future.

AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 11:17 AM
Even if Romney doesn't take Rubio as his veep (I don't know why he wouldn't), Rubio has a really bright political future.

He's a no-brainer IMO.

pghin08
06-27-2012, 11:24 AM
He's a no-brainer IMO.

Oh me too. Smart, Catholic, well-spoken Hispanic fiscal conservative who is a popular Senator in a swing state. If Romney doesn't pick Rubio, he's not fit to be elected President.

duane1969
06-27-2012, 11:47 AM
I came away with this:

Stewart - Likes to try and portray himself as middle-of-the-road but his bias was obvious in that interview. No matter how Rubio answered a question Stewart was entrenched in the idea that the evil Republicans are the source of the problem in every issue. I already knew this and that is why I never wtahc his show, but I thought it was very obvious in that exchange.

Rubio - Should be the GOP presidential nominee. How we ended up with Romney baffles me with guys like Rubio and West out there. If conservatives had a Marco Rubio/Alan West ticket to vote on then Obama/Biden would lose in a landslide.

pghin08
06-27-2012, 12:14 PM
I came away with this:

Stewart - Likes to try and portray himself as middle-of-the-road but his bias was obvious in that interview. No matter how Rubio answered a question Stewart was entrenched in the idea that the evil Republicans are the source of the problem in every issue. I already knew this and that is why I never wtahc his show, but I thought it was very obvious in that exchange.

Rubio - Should be the GOP presidential nominee. How we ended up with Romney baffles me with guys like Rubio and West out there. If conservatives had a Marco Rubio/Alan West ticket to vote on then Obama/Biden would lose in a landslide.

Disagree entirely with this. I watch his show consistently, and if he blamed Republicans for everything, I wouldn't watch it (I don't watch MSNBC for that very reason), so that alone is proof enough to me that Stewart, while definitely a Democrat, is not a pure Republican-basher.

mrveggieman
06-27-2012, 12:26 PM
I came away with this:

Stewart - Likes to try and portray himself as middle-of-the-road but his bias was obvious in that interview. No matter how Rubio answered a question Stewart was entrenched in the idea that the evil Republicans are the source of the problem in every issue. I already knew this and that is why I never wtahc his show, but I thought it was very obvious in that exchange.

Rubio - Should be the GOP presidential nominee. How we ended up with Romney baffles me with guys like Rubio and West out there. If conservatives had a Marco Rubio/Alan West ticket to vote on then Obama/Biden would lose in a landslide.


I have to disagree as well. I don't really know Rubio but I have heard a few good things about him but not enough to vote for him over President Obama. However Alan West is a clown and I would not touch him as a running mate with a ten foot pole.

AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 12:41 PM
I have to disagree as well. I don't really know Rubio but I have heard a few good things about him but not enough to vote for him over President Obama. However Alan West is a clown and I would not touch him as a running mate with a ten foot pole.

You need to watch that interview. Educate yourself more.

mrveggieman
06-27-2012, 12:42 PM
You need to watch that interview. Educate yourself more.


Yeah I am curious to see what Rubio is talking about.

duane1969
06-27-2012, 12:49 PM
Disagree entirely with this. I watch his show consistently, and if he blamed Republicans for everything, I wouldn't watch it (I don't watch MSNBC for that very reason), so that alone is proof enough to me that Stewart, while definitely a Democrat, is not a pure Republican-basher.

Well, I watched all 3 videos and his position seemed to be that it was the Republicans causing the problems.

- He insisted that Republicans are obstructionist (and repeatedly used the term when talking about Republicans) because they filibuster and shrugged off the idea that Dems refuse to vote on any bill put forth by the GOP. Rubio had to repeatedly say that Dems refuse to put any GOP bill up for a vote and Stewart ignored it every time. Rubio even named off several bills that he has worked on but that the Dems refuse to put up for a vote and Stewart didn't even address it, he just moved on.

- The Republican idea that keeping money in the hands of the people is wrong and the good idea is to take it from them and dump it into entitlement programs (education) was his staunch point. He was so determined that he was correct he even told Rubio that they are in different universes. I wish that Rubio had been on-point enough to point out to Stewart that more education doesn't equal more jobs. Right now we have a large potion of unemployed people who have college educations. Education doesn't equal jobs.

- Stewart was adamant that Obamacare is some great peice of work (in spite of many Dems even conceding that it is problematic) and said that if Obamacare is repealed then it creates uncertainty, thus Republicans are trying to create uncertainty.

- Even at the 3:50 point in the 3rd video Stewart says that people are not investing because they can see that "one party is unyeidling" and "if they don't get everything they want, we will shut down". Stewarts opinion is very clearly that what the Dems want is right and the Republicans are messing it up.

I will admit that when a Dem does soemthing really stupid then he calls it out, but as a general rule his position is liberal. In this debate he clearly takes a pro-liberal position on every issue discussed. Maybe he is just playing devil's advocate but everytime I have ever tried to watch his show he has been the same way.

mrveggieman
06-27-2012, 01:36 PM
posted in error

Wickabee
06-27-2012, 01:37 PM
Stewart is definitely a democrat. He often does come across as biased. However, to say he's just a Republican basher is completely false. To say he's a Democrat fanboy is completely false. People who say this either don't watch the show, or watch it with a "he's a dirty Democrat, he just hates Republicans" attitude.

duane1969
06-27-2012, 01:50 PM
Stewart is definitely a democrat. He often does come across as biased. However, to say he's just a Republican basher is completely false. To say he's a Democrat fanboy is completely false. People who say this either don't watch the show, or watch it with a "he's a dirty Democrat, he just hates Republicans" attitude.

I don't watch anything with that opinion, but I have never seen Stewart take any other position. If you watch the 3 videos that are being discussed it is pretty hard to argue that he takes any other position. He isn't playing the middle ground at all and is clearly in favor of all of the Dem policies and issues that are discussed.

Like I said, maybe he is playing devil's advocate, but I have never seen him play devil's advocate that adamantly with a liberal guest.

AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 02:09 PM
Stewart is definitely a democrat. He often does come across as biased. However, to say he's just a Republican basher is completely false. To say he's a Democrat fanboy is completely false. People who say this either don't watch the show, or watch it with a "he's a dirty Democrat, he just hates Republicans" attitude.

Roger Ailes claims Stewart admitted to him in a bar that he is essentially a socialist.

Wickabee
06-27-2012, 02:55 PM
I don't watch anything with that opinion, but I have never seen Stewart take any other position. If you watch the 3 videos that are being discussed it is pretty hard to argue that he takes any other position. He isn't playing the middle ground at all and is clearly in favor of all of the Dem policies and issues that are discussed.

Like I said, maybe he is playing devil's advocate, but I have never seen him play devil's advocate that adamantly with a liberal guest.
I said he comes off as biased quite often, I'm not arguing that. However, if you watch more than a handful of episodes, you'll see that he does take the Democrats and Obama to task. Not as often but he does. If you half watch a handful of episodes, then you'll likely get the impression you say you have.


Roger Ailes claims Stewart admitted to him in a bar that he is essentially a socialist.
That's nice, but what does it have to do with anything?
Are you saying that because he reportedly admitted he's a socialist he can't possibly do anything other than bash the Republican party? If you are, you're wrong and if you aren't, I fail to see your point at all.


The other thing everyone has to remember is he is NOT a news source and nowhere in the mandate of a comedy show does it say you should be unbiased.

habsheaven
06-27-2012, 03:27 PM
Can't view the video here. I have watched enough of Stewart's interviews to have a feeling for how it went despite the biased commentary in the article. Rubio has a lot of positive attributes but I doubt he will get the VP spot once the vetting process is completed.

pghin08
06-27-2012, 03:36 PM
Can't view the video here. I have watched enough of Stewart's interviews to have a feeling for how it went despite the biased commentary in the article. Rubio has a lot of positive attributes but I doubt he will get the VP spot once the vetting process is completed.

Why don't you think he'll get it?

AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 03:42 PM
That's nice, but what does it have to do with anything?
Are you saying that because he reportedly admitted he's a socialist he can't possibly do anything other than bash the Republican party? If you are, you're wrong and if you aren't, I fail to see your point at all.

I was just stating a fact that I thought was relevant to the conversation.

habsheaven
06-27-2012, 03:43 PM
Why don't you think he'll get it?

I think Romney is going to pick someone more experienced.

AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 03:45 PM
Why?

habsheaven
06-27-2012, 03:56 PM
Not sure how to answer this. I am not saying he should, I just think he will. The only reason I guess, is because they would have more experience. The reasoning speaks for itself.

*censored*
06-27-2012, 03:57 PM
It's a possibility. It's hard to rail on Obama for lack of experience, then go out and tap a relative newcomer as the veep.

duwal
06-27-2012, 04:22 PM
I was just stating a fact that I thought was relevant to the conversation.


ha, how exactly was that a fact? You saw that someone said that someone else told them something so its the truth?? :tongue0020:

JustAlex
06-27-2012, 04:43 PM
Not sure how to answer this. I am not saying he should, I just think he will. The only reason I guess, is because they would have more experience. The reasoning speaks for itself.

In a LOGICAL America you would be correct....

But this is the SAME party that had SARAH PALIN as a VP candidate.....think about that.....I often do and it scares me so much more than any horror film I have ever watched.

Rubio is very much a serious candidate for the VP.

AUTaxMan
06-27-2012, 05:29 PM
ha, how exactly was that a fact? You saw that someone said that someone else told them something so its the truth?? :tongue0020:

I just thought it was interesting.

ensbergcollector
06-27-2012, 07:17 PM
It's a possibility. It's hard to rail on Obama for lack of experience, then go out and tap a relative newcomer as the veep.

and since last election taught us that if obama can't compete with the experience of the presidential candidate, he will just campaign as though he is running against the vp like he did last time.

Wickabee
06-27-2012, 08:12 PM
and since last election taught us that if obama can't compete with the experience of the presidential candidate, he will just campaign as though he is running against the vp like he did last time.
Last time Obama could've stayed home and still won. McCain and Palin ran against themselves.

I really used to like McCain, too. But by 2008 he was just crazy and (I think) picked Palin to make him look saner.

duwal
06-27-2012, 08:16 PM
Last time Obama could've stayed home and still won. McCain and Palin ran against themselves.

I really used to like McCain, too. But by 2008 he was just crazy and (I think) picked Palin to make him look saner.



Somehow I still voted for McCain even though someone like Sarah Palin scares the heck out of me. As CM Punk says....you gotta loooove crazy chicks

Wickabee
06-27-2012, 08:19 PM
The second she called herself a "hockey mom" she lost me. I used to referee minor hockey and, having done that, the LAST person I want in charge of anything but a bake sale is the average hockey mom...

drtom2005
06-27-2012, 09:58 PM
Well I think he is interesting. I do not agree with him totally. He reminds me of McCain when I first voted 12 years ago. I just wonder if he is going to have to sell his soul to get elected like McCain. I can't believe I'm going to say this but I might vote for him if he ran for president(just like I would have voted for McCain if he had held to his principles).

*censored*
06-27-2012, 10:30 PM
I can't believe I'm going to say this but I might voe for him if he ran for president(just like I would have voted for McCain if he had held to his principles).

This times eleventy billion.

pwaldo
06-28-2012, 03:25 PM
Last time Obama could've stayed home and still won. McCain and Palin ran against themselves.

I really used to like McCain, too. But by 2008 he was just crazy and (I think) picked Palin to make him look saner.

I don't really know why anybody EVER liked McCain but his advisors basically made him pick Palin. Want to know who John McCain really wanted to pick as his VP? Joe Lieberman

I kid you not. The guy in 2008 wanted to pick Joe Lieberman as his VP. You know the same guy who the Democrats dragged out in 2000 as VP for Al Gore who brought NOTHING to the table but who was now 8 years older and less liked. That ticket would have been crushed even more by Obama if he would have done that.

Wickabee
06-28-2012, 03:29 PM
I don't really know why anybody EVER liked McCain but his advisors basically made him pick Palin. Want to know who John McCain really wanted to pick as his VP? Joe Lieberman

I kid you not. The guy in 2008 wanted to pick Joe Lieberman as his VP. You know the same guy who the Democrats dragged out in 2000 as VP for Al Gore who brought NOTHING to the table but who was now 8 years older and less liked. That ticket would have been crushed even more by Obama if he would have done that.
By 2008 McCain had gone completely off his rocker so that doesn't surprise me one bit. But ten, fifteen years ago McCain was one of the few higher profile Republicans I respected. He seemed like a thoughtful and reasonable man.
By 2008 it was just a case of 'grandpa got into the liquor cabinet'. He went insane.