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mikesilvia
07-18-2012, 06:20 PM
Before taking the oath of office, Barack Obama vowed to fundamentally transform the United States. He has certainly done so. For example, Obama has: -- destroyed the job market; -- sent billions of taxpayer...

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theonedru
07-18-2012, 07:38 PM
I actually see nothing wrong with convicted felons voting, regardless of their criminal acts they are still citizens of this country and should be allowed to make their vote count.

JustAlex
07-18-2012, 07:54 PM
Republican Ideal voter: Racist white supremacist, the top 1%, Super religious zealots.

mikesilvia
07-18-2012, 09:44 PM
Republican Ideal voter: Racist white supremacist, the top 1%, Super religious zealots.

Do you honestly believe that? So they target 2% of the country and let the Democrats target the 98%?

mrveggieman
07-18-2012, 10:21 PM
I actually see nothing wrong with convicted felons voting, regardless of their criminal acts they are still citizens of this country and should be allowed to make their vote count.


I tend to agree with you my only exception would not to allow sex offenders and people who hurt children to vote.

theonedru
07-18-2012, 10:26 PM
I tend to agree with you my only exception would not to allow sex offenders and people who hurt children to vote.

No exceptions, otherwise it's discrimination and that's not ok

habsheaven
07-18-2012, 10:30 PM
Why has this forum turned into a mouthpiece for the Republican party? Do we have to constantly be linked to extreme right wing nutjobs everyday? It's getting to the point of being ridiculous. And if the OP truly believes the title of the thread HE posted then he really shouldn't be questioning Alex's beliefs.

Question for the mods; if I put the OP on ignore will that free up my list of threads from his constant propaganda?

mrveggieman
07-18-2012, 10:33 PM
Ha Ha, his posts are comical to me.

mikesilvia
07-18-2012, 10:33 PM
Why has this forum turned into a mouthpiece for the Republican party? Do we have to constantly be linked to extreme right wing nutjobs everyday? It's getting to the point of being ridiculous. And if the OP truly believes the title of the thread HE posted then he really shouldn't be questioning Alex's beliefs.

Question for the mods; if I put the OP on ignore will that free up my list of threads from his constant propaganda?

Posted this earlier: http://www.sportscardforum.com/threads/1710122-Who-are-your-favorite-columnists

Make some suggestions. I'm just testing the RSS feature.

mrveggieman
07-18-2012, 10:34 PM
Sexual predators are not a legally protected class. If were up to me all pedophiles would be executed.
No exceptions, otherwise it's discrimination and that's not ok

mikesilvia
07-18-2012, 10:42 PM
Also. notice the ads that get served?

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shrewsbury
07-18-2012, 11:09 PM
veggie, i agree with you
theonedru, why can there never be exceptions?
alex, why did you have to bring race into it? but funny nonetheless
has, leave mike alone he's doing his job (just kidding of course)

theonedru
07-18-2012, 11:20 PM
veggie, i agree with you
theonedru, why can there never be exceptions?
alex, why did you have to bring race into it? but funny nonetheless
has, leave mike alone he's doing his job (just kidding of course)

Because every American has the right to choose the fate of this country regardless. For centuries we have quelled some segment of the populations right to vote, we need to stop it.

JustAlex
07-18-2012, 11:23 PM
veggie, i agree with you
theonedru, why can there never be exceptions?
alex, why did you have to bring race into it? but funny nonetheless
has, leave mike alone he's doing his job (just kidding of course)
I'm just showing how ridiculous the article really is.

BTW, I'm not sure if you know this but I'm NOT a democrat, I'm 100% independent and I really have no reason to defend them, but some of the stuff that's being said in these articles are absolutely asinine.

mikesilvia
07-18-2012, 11:38 PM
I'm 100% independent and I really have no reason to defend them, but some of the stuff that's being said in these articles are absolutely asinine.

Ok, let's take her first few points. What is asinine about this?


For example, Obama has:



[*=left]-- destroyed the job market;
[*=left]-- sent billions of taxpayer dollars to Wall Street, companies overseas, his campaign contributors and public sector unions;
[*=left]-- forced the passage of a wildly unpopular national health care law on a purely partisan vote;
[*=left]​-- come out for gay marriage;
[*=left]-- refused to enforce laws on illegal immigration;
[*=left]-- eliminated the work requirement for welfare.

mikesilvia
07-18-2012, 11:40 PM
How about this?



According to the Center for Immigration Studies, 57 percent of all immigrant households in the U.S. get cash, Medicaid, housing or food benefits from the government -- compared with 39 percent of native households. The highest rates are for immigrants from the Dominican Republic (82 percent), Mexico and Guatemala (tied at 75 percent).


or this?



Our prisons are overflowing with the results of the Democrats' experiment of subsidizing illegitimacy. Children raised by a single mothers commit 72 percent of juvenile murders, 60 percent of rapes, have 70 percent of teenaged births, commit 70 percent of suicides and are 70 percent of high school dropouts.

JustAlex
07-18-2012, 11:49 PM
Ok, let's take her first few points. What is asinine about this?


For example, Obama has:



[*=left]-- destroyed the job market;
[*=left]-- sent billions of taxpayer dollars to Wall Street, companies overseas, his campaign contributors and public sector unions;
[*=left]-- forced the passage of a wildly unpopular national health care law on a purely partisan vote;
[*=left]​-- come out for gay marriage;
[*=left]-- refused to enforce laws on illegal immigration;
[*=left]-- eliminated the work requirement for welfare.


Oh boy....

Obama "destroyed the Job market" huh.....wow, that's incredible....and totally factual :rolleyes:

Obama "Forced" the passage of a wildly unpopular national health law.....DARN that Obama trying to improve health care to a nation which is absolutely TERRIBLE in the Health Care system......Oh and I think you have to be in CONGRESS to vote for bills, I didn't know Obama voted on the health care bill....

Obama "came out for gay marriage"......HOW DARE HE!!!! How could Obama say that everyone should have the right to get married.....what a NAZI!!!

"Refused to enforce laws on illegal immigration".......yeah, that's exactly what he did....OH WAIT.....there was actually MORE deportations under the Obama administration than the Bush administration.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/18/news/la-pn-deportation-ice-20111018


Yeah buddy, nothing asinine about all of that!

shrewsbury
07-18-2012, 11:49 PM
Mike good post and how about;
in the last 6 months Obama has had over 100 fundraisers and zero meetings with his job council

mikesilvia
07-18-2012, 11:58 PM
Oh boy....

Obama "destroyed the Job market" huh.....wow, that's incredible....and totally factual :rolleyes:

Obama "Forced" the passage of a wildly unpopular national health law.....DARN that Obama trying to improve health care to a nation which is absolutely TERRIBLE in the Health Care system......Oh and I think you have to be in CONGRESS to vote for bills, I didn't know Obama voted on the health care bill....

Obama "came out for gay marriage"......HOW DARE HE!!!! How could Obama say that everyone should have the right to get married.....what a NAZI!!!

"Refused to enforce laws on illegal immigration".......yeah, that's exactly what he did....OH WAIT.....there was actually MORE deportations under the Obama administration than the Bush administration.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct...n-ice-20111018 (http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/18/news/la-pn-deportation-ice-20111018)


Yeah buddy, nothing asinine about all of that!

All your opinions. Those are her opinions, and she presents tons of stats/facts to back them up.

Let's take gay marriage. The evil Dick Cheney supported gay marriage years before Obama did. Why did Obama wait until a month ago to come out? For political reasons. He raised a ton of money for doing it. Funny how Obama is allowed to "evolve" while Romney "Flip Flops."

The health care law was passed by Democrats when they had the House, Senate and Presidency. No Republicans were allowed to provide input. Isn't the President of all U.S. citizens? The polls show it is unpopular today and the Supreme Court ruled it was a tax.

The job market? Obama promised if we spent trillions on a stimulus that the unemployment rate would be at 6%. It's at 8.5%. We are adding more people to disability than we are adding to the work force. We went form 30 million of food stamps to 43 million since Obama took office (there are now billboard ads marketing to people). Our debt has risen more in three years than almost all presidents combined. Our debt rating lowered from AAA status the first time in our history. We now owe more than we produce in a single year. Yes, the economy is great!

I could go on and on ...

JustAlex
07-19-2012, 12:04 AM
Haha, Ok, whatever...

Listen up, I don't care if Obama wins or loses, however; most of things you have mentioned are either skewed or completely untrue.

You're doing a great job at blaming Obama on just about everything.....It's really hot this summer, obviously that's Obama's fault too....My favorite baseball team is in 4th place in their division, YEP, that's Obama's fault as well.

I'm starting to think you're a republican plant posting all these kool-aid articles.

shrewsbury
07-19-2012, 12:14 AM
The health care law was passed by Democrats when they had the House, Senate and Presidency. No Republicans were allowed to provide input.

Obama promised if we spent trillions on a stimulus that the unemployment rate would be at 6%. It's at 8.5%. We are adding more people to disability than we are adding to the work force. We went form 30 million of food stamps to 43 million since Obama took office. Our debt has risen more in three years than almost all presidents combined. Our debt rating lowered from AAA status the first time in our history.

alex, how are these not straight facts?
what is skewed about any of the things listed above?

drtom2005
07-21-2012, 10:03 PM
alex, how are these not straight facts?
what is skewed about any of the things listed above?

Shewsbury, the Republicans did have input into the healthcare plan. It is why we do not have a single payer system.
The effects of changes on the economy take 3-6 years to feel an effect. We should have more unemployment. It could be argued that we are still feeling the effects of failed Bush policy.
The disability thing I have not read up on.
The food stamp thing I have not read up on.
As for the AAA rating, that is absolutely not true. America has had credit problems many times. The early government had to fight for credit(just one instance I can think of off the top of my head).

AUTaxMan
07-22-2012, 12:10 AM
The government is actually advertising for people to get on food stamps and has recently coordinated with the Mexican government to make sure that illegals know that they can get food stamps too.

drtom2005
07-22-2012, 12:17 AM
The government is actually advertising for people to get on food stamps and has recently coordinated with the Mexican government to make sure that illegals know that they can get food stamps too.


The illegals I do not like. The kids are what I care about. If food stamps keep kids feed, I really do not care about feeding adults. I'll have to look into this more.

Trueduckfan
07-22-2012, 12:33 AM
darn right he has changed the country. The media has sent messages to young people and those with no or little common sense to believe certain things, then those people have bought into Obama and his "so-callled" agenda and voted him in at the polls in "HOPE" of "CHANGE".
Hes changed us allright. But the type of change these people wanted has not happend. People these days want a hand-out or something for nothin. They are quick to strike down and take from those who have more than them, not taking into consideration how the person with more than they have has obtained or worked for what they have.
Socialism has been attempted and failed in this country going back to the settlement days when colonies and towns were trying to survive and become a society.

There are just too many lazy bumms or individuals who think the government or higher-ups owe them something.
Obama came into office promising the world to everyone. Right, I never beleived a word he spoke. And he has too many ties to dictorial leaders, left wing poloticians, extremists and corrupt political fiures. Just take a look at where he came from as "AN UNEXPEIRIENCED" senator from Chicago where he sold his seat to another polotician illegaly. hmm, you think thats a red flag right off the bat?
Obama has pushed through more laws in his first two years as president than the other presidents in there full terms combined! He doesnt care what the citizens think or want. He and his party cator to the illegals, poor, women and young gullable voters to stay in office to push there agendas and pad there pockets.
Eventually, the cookie will crumble. You cant take everything from those who pay the bill and give it back to those who dont contribute for very long without the funding drying up..... At some point, those who produce will get tired of getting the shaft and either give up or go away.

Obama and his regime have also tied the military's hands and weakend our defense. Hmm, I belive Obama promised all of the moms in the US that he would end the war and bring back ALL of the troops swiftly. So what does he do? He sends thousands more into Afghanistan to be slaughtered because he didnt do it right or arm them correctly.
Seems like they are trying to weaken our defense or military presance, tear down americas values, make us all lazy, disarm us by taking our guns away and weakening the dollar and our strength in the world.
Now why would they do all of this to us? You really think there just that dumb? I dont think so. They are very bright in what they are doing for there reasoning.
Obama has been brought up in the world and surrounded by very influential left wing american haters to shape and mold him into what he is today.

Trueduckfan
07-22-2012, 12:37 AM
the more citizens (or bodies) you have working in america, the more taxes you can bring in. Or for the democrats, the more people you have here on welfare and in need, the more funding you can advocate for and votes you'll most likely gain to keep you in power as you make endless rediculous promises to these people telling them they will get free this and free that and be taken care of. Meanwhile, it robs the middle class of there hard earned dollar and demotivates individuals from getting up, getting educated and going out and earning there living!!!!!

Ticks me off so bad!!!

The illegals I do not like. The kids are what I care about. If food stamps keep kids feed, I really do not care about feeding adults. I'll have to look into this more.

texansrangerfan73
07-22-2012, 01:02 AM
Why is it that Democrats are always in favor of welfare or help the American workers & citizens that come down on their luck? This gets me to thinking that Jesus Christ is the biggest Democrat of all, why you ask? 1) He healed the sick. 2) Gave to the poor & hungry. 3) Helped his fellow human. Sure you can blame the working mans vote for some of Congresses & the Presidents stupid moves but all? Really come on now? BTW I bet some alot of people that post in this section opposed the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 also right? Just in case of anyone not knowing, it mostly happened because of a Vietnam Veteran who turned into a social worker & speaker.

duwal
07-22-2012, 01:12 AM
The job market? Obama promised if we spent trillions on a stimulus that the unemployment rate would be at 6%. It's at 8.5%. We are adding more people to disability than we are adding to the work force. We went form 30 million of food stamps to 43 million since Obama took office (there are now billboard ads marketing to people). Our debt has risen more in three years than almost all presidents combined. Our debt rating lowered from AAA status the first time in our history. We now owe more than we produce in a single year. Yes, the economy is great!

I could go on and on ...

I always get so tired of the job market/unemployment argument. The unemployment percentage would be 6% or under if people were actually motivated to go out and get a job. Face it, a lot of the unemployed are either too lazy to try or too self entitled to go for a job they think is beneath them. Currently at my law firm there are 12 completely different job positions ready to be fulfilled. Looking at my paper in my city alone I see well over 100 available jobs. But instead you have 20-something year olds staying at home with their parents because they don't want to put in the effort to get a job at a restaurant, hotel, etc. paying 12-15k a year. I worked two jobs while I was going to law school, I was driven and it didn't matter what I did because I was paying the bills. And there is no excuse that there is no jobs where someone is at, if that REALLY is the case than move to a city where there ARE jobs available....simple.

And as a 1% Republican I also am fine with illegal immigrants taking the jobs because lets face it. And I'll just put it out there, its mostly white people that complain about illegal immigrants taking some of the jobs but they are also doing the jobs for a lower wage that white people would never even want to apply for...dishwashers, restroom attendants, car wash, gardening/landscaping, etc.

mrveggieman
07-22-2012, 01:38 PM
I always get so tired of the job market/unemployment argument. The unemployment percentage would be 6% or under if people were actually motivated to go out and get a job. Face it, a lot of the unemployed are either too lazy to try or too self entitled to go for a job they think is beneath them. Currently at my law firm there are 12 completely different job positions ready to be fulfilled. Looking at my paper in my city alone I see well over 100 available jobs. But instead you have 20-something year olds staying at home with their parents because they don't want to put in the effort to get a job at a restaurant, hotel, etc. paying 12-15k a year. I worked two jobs while I was going to law school, I was driven and it didn't matter what I did because I was paying the bills. And there is no excuse that there is no jobs where someone is at, if that REALLY is the case than move to a city where there ARE jobs available....simple.

And as a 1% Republican I also am fine with illegal immigrants taking the jobs because lets face it. And I'll just put it out there, its mostly white people that complain about illegal immigrants taking some of the jobs but they are also doing the jobs for a lower wage that white people would never even want to apply for...dishwashers, restroom attendants, car wash, gardening/landscaping, etc.

Great points!!

theonedru
07-22-2012, 02:01 PM
You know who is really at fault for this nations ills? The people that's who, and why? Because we let it happen. Sure we sit and complain about this and that blah blah but what does anyone ever truly do about anything? NADA..... Make the government more accountable, make the government know that if they mess up they are accountable to those who put them in office and if we put them in then we can throw them out. We are their boss and more of us need to make our voices heard. We had no problem in the past. What happened to us, we have become a nation of cowards hiding in the dark with a whisper instead of a roar.

duane1969
07-22-2012, 04:49 PM
You know who is really at fault for this nations ills? The people that's who, and why? Because we let it happen. Sure we sit and complain about this and that blah blah but what does anyone ever truly do about anything? NADA..... Make the government more accountable, make the government know that if they mess up they are accountable to those who put them in office and if we put them in then we can throw them out. We are their boss and more of us need to make our voices heard. We had no problem in the past. What happened to us, we have become a nation of cowards hiding in the dark with a whisper instead of a roar.

So what are you doing about it? Or anything? I see this same thing out of a lot of people (not singling you out). They like to criticize others for "not doing anything" but rarely are those who criticize doing anything either. When is the last time you approached a politician and voiced your complaints? When is the last time you questioned a politician to explain his position on a subject or explain why he voted a certain way on a subject?

MadMan1978
07-22-2012, 09:09 PM
So what are you doing about it? Or anything? I see this same thing out of a lot of people (not singling you out). They like to criticize others for "not doing anything" but rarely are those who criticize doing anything either. When is the last time you approached a politician and voiced your complaints? When is the last time you questioned a politician to explain his position on a subject or explain why he voted a certain way on a subject?

1. voice my opinion properly
2. Pay TAXES!
3. Write and complain to any elected officials who will listen-very small list...
4. An poke fun at the Republicans here -That is one of the Perks..

:kiss:

theonedru
07-23-2012, 02:55 AM
I am very vocal to anyone I need to be from local politicians on up. I have gone as far to not only write letters but go to their offices (to no avail go figure) but I do not give up I am relentless when I see idiotic things go on. Like recently in Seattle here thye banned plastic bags BUT... What does into those plastic bags are worse than the bags themselves. I do not see them banning all plastic food wrappings and making companies use biodegradable plastics that would just be too smart