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mrveggieman
07-25-2012, 12:27 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/voter-id-laws-scenarios_n_1699746.html

AUTaxMan
07-25-2012, 12:57 PM
Sorry, but I don't have any sympathy for a person who has no photo id. You can obtain the proper documentation if you really want to do so.

ALADOG
07-25-2012, 01:16 PM
This claim is soooo bogus. She can get to a lawyer's office and now to the courthouse, where by the way, she could probably get a photo id, and now claims she can't vote. Liberalism at its best.

indexed
07-25-2012, 01:40 PM
And we all know this is not a diversion from the god only knows how many fraudulent votes. This is called the exception to the rule. We are one of the only countries in the civilized world that doesn't have these laws and also one the worst and fragmented gov'ts in human history. Please..........Obama enough said.

duane1969
07-25-2012, 02:23 PM
Idiotic Irony of the Day:

The US Justice Department will defend your "right" to not be required to show you ID in order to vote, but to get into the U.S. Justice department building you must show ID...

mrveggieman
07-25-2012, 02:25 PM
Idiotic Irony of the Day:

The US Justice Department will defend your "right" to not be required to show you ID in order to vote, but to get into the U.S. Justice department building you must show ID...

Going into the Justice Dept building is not a legally protected right. Voting is.

duane1969
07-25-2012, 02:33 PM
Going into the Justice Dept building is not a legally protected right. Voting is.

And?

shrewsbury
07-25-2012, 02:35 PM
but to have legal rights do you not need to prove citizenship?

can you get welfare without an ID?

mrveggieman
07-25-2012, 02:50 PM
but to have legal rights do you not need to prove citizenship?

can you get welfare without an ID?


I don't know. I never been on walfare. :rolleyes:

habsheaven
07-25-2012, 03:26 PM
I don't need to show any ID to vote.

11chaos
07-25-2012, 03:35 PM
I don't need to show any ID to vote.

Maybe you have a honest face or you're known.

shrewsbury
07-25-2012, 07:42 PM
just looked it up, in my county you must have proof of identity to get cash or food assistance but not for medical help for families, children, aged, blind, or disabled.

so this goes to shows that the biggest argument for obama care is useless, you can get help, for free, with no proof of even who you are!

this also goes to show if you have to have proof of identity to get cash or food help, why not have to have it to vote?

http://www.odjfs.state.oh.us/forms/file.asp?id=1429&type=application/pdf

habsheaven
07-25-2012, 08:45 PM
just looked it up, in my county you must have proof of identity to get cash or food assistance but not for medical help for families, children, aged, blind, or disabled.

so this goes to shows that the biggest argument for obama care is useless, you can get help, for free, with no proof of even who you are!

this also goes to show if you have to have proof of identity to get cash or food help, why not have to have it to vote?

http://www.odjfs.state.oh.us/forms/file.asp?id=1429&type=application/pdf

There's a flaw in your thinking Jay. You are talking about medical treatment when you have need for it. The ACA will provide insurance coverage so that people can take advantage of preventative care. It's proven that preventative care is cheaper and more effective at keeping people healthy, than waiting for an illness to require the free care you speak of.

duane1969
07-25-2012, 10:06 PM
but to have legal rights do you not need to prove citizenship?

can you get welfare without an ID?

No you can not. You are not eligible for any form of government assistance, not even Social Security unless you have ID. You also are not eligible to get a post office box, get a tax refund, buy alcohol, buy tobacco, get a marriage license, donate blood, board a plane, buy cold medicine, adopt a pet, enter a casino, rent a car, apply for a loan or buy a fishing license. But those things are important. For something unimportant like voting you don't even have to be a citizen or 18 years old.

shrewsbury
07-25-2012, 11:02 PM
habs, its for children, women and family which includes doctor visits, shots, tests, and check ups not just relief of past bills, these will usually e written off y the hospital if you provide proof of income.

habsheaven
07-25-2012, 11:13 PM
habs, its for children, women and family which includes doctor visits, shots, tests, and check ups not just relief of past bills, these will usually e written off y the hospital if you provide proof of income.

Okay, glad to hear that.

Theodor Madison
07-26-2012, 12:58 AM
The fact I can not get a Fishing license w/o an ID, bothers me. Yet a non citizen is not required to have one. Another bad Policy!

mrveggieman
07-26-2012, 10:05 AM
No you can not. You are not eligible for any form of government assistance, not even Social Security unless you have ID. You also are not eligible to get a post office box, get a tax refund, buy alcohol, buy tobacco, get a marriage license, donate blood, board a plane, buy cold medicine, adopt a pet, enter a casino, rent a car, apply for a loan or buy a fishing license. But those things are important. For something unimportant like voting you don't even have to be a citizen or 18 years old.


You can get a tax refund without an id. However cashing it may be a challenge.

tpeichel
07-26-2012, 02:12 PM
Here in PA we passed a voter ID law and of course they are getting sued. The state will provide a photo ID for free if needed. If your religion prohibits a photo, they have a photoless ID option. Even if you show up without an ID to vote, they will allow you to cast a provisional vote which will count if you can verify your identity within a week.

Of course, it is still being challenged by the left even though the law does everything possible to help voters cast their ballot while protecting the integrity of the vote.

habsheaven
07-26-2012, 03:31 PM
After all is said and done. I really do not think it is too much to ask for voters to show some sort of ID. Not sure it has to be a photo ID though. Also, I think any laws enacted should have a grace period before they go into effect giving everyone plenty of notice of what is required.