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jessejordan419
07-27-2012, 11:19 AM
Here is concrete fact and evidence for those that wish to enlighten themselves. Found and provided by AUTaxMan:
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=123


Here is the spoonfed version for those who refuse to do their own research and must have it spoonfed to them:

"Since this was Jefferson's view concerning religious expression, in his short and polite reply to the Danbury Baptists on January 1, 1802, he assured them that they need not fear; that the free exercise of religion would never be interfered with by the federal government.

Earlier courts long understood Jefferson's intent. In fact, when Jefferson's letter was invoked by the Supreme Court (only twice prior to the 1947 Everson case – the Reynolds v. United States case in 1878), unlike today's Courts which publish only his eight-word separation phrase, that earlier Court published Jefferson's entire letter:.......That Court then succinctly summarized Jefferson's intent for "separation of church and state":

[T]he rightful purposes of civil government are for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order. In th[is] . . . is found the true distinction between what properly belongs to the church and what to the State. [13]"



I know it's hard for the leftist to look Truth in the eye, but texting, video games, t.v., and the internet have taken away the leftists ability to research and read for themselves. The leftists in charge wish to re-write history, just as George Orwell wrote about in his book, 1984. The title character's job, at The Ministry of Truth, was to re-write history, sometimes over and over again, so that the people would not know anything of the OldWorld. They could never question, because Big Brother Is Watching everywhere, and they would drag away dissenters in the night for execution or forced labor.

pghin08
07-27-2012, 11:26 AM
If you have a problem with it, take it up with the Supreme Court. They've interpreted it the same for 150+ years. Don't know what else to tell you.

mrveggieman
07-27-2012, 11:32 AM
If you have a problem with it, take it up with the Supreme Court. They've interpreted it the same for 150+ years. Don't know what else to tell you.

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shrewsbury
07-27-2012, 11:39 AM
jesse, it is obvious you are into and have look into conspiracy ideas surrounding many things. though i am somewhat fascinated by them, I often find them no more credible than what they were trying to prove or disprove.

interpretation is often the issue, one classic example would be Mark 10:25,
many will say it means the wealthy cannot enter heaven, but not all.
the eye of the needle, in those day, was a reference to the arch travelers passed through to enter a city, the arch was too low for a packed camel to enter, so the camel would have to be unloaded to enter through the arch. some will say this only shows you must unload your wealth to enter heaven, I say look at Mark 10:27, and Mark 10:31

what I think this means is if your only goal in life is wealth and if your life is based in wealth you will have missed Jesus, thus you cannot enter heaven, but with God in your life, being wealthy or not does not matter.

it is what your priorities are, not how much money you have or not. if you leave behind what is not Godly you will be rewarded, if not, then you won't. But you can have God and wealth, because with God all things are possible.