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jessejordan419
08-13-2012, 01:24 PM
I write this as a Thank You to the liberals, leftists, atheists, and homosexuals that have "poked the bear", and caused me to respond in the flesh, and not in the Spirit. This is a sincere Thank You, for you have brought me closer to God through His Spirit. I have been saved and sealed for the Day of Redemption for many many years, but have walked in the flesh for most of those years. It is my sincere hope that all would come into Repentance through the Shed Blood of Jesus Christ, for it is by the Grace of Christ that we are saved through Faith, not works, so that no man can boast.

Definitions are taken from Websters Collegiate circa 1975 or so.

Works of the Flesh - Galations 5:19-21

Adultery: Cheating on a spouse, though Jesus teaches that lust for another is committing adultery in the heart

Fornication: Sex outside of marriage, OR sex outside of marriage consented to by a spouse - wife swapping, orgies, threesomes, etc.

Uncleanness: Dirty, filthy, morally or spiritually impure, and Cleanliness is next to Godliness

Lasciviousness: Lewd, lu™™™™l, wanton, obscene, pornography

Idolatry: Immoderate devotion or attachment to something

Witchcraft: Spirtists, mediums, familiar spirits, psychics, palm readers, witches, warlocks, etc.

Hatred: Active hostilities, prejudiced hostility, animosity

Variance: Disagreement, dispute, argumentative

Emulations: Wanting to equal or excel others

Wrath: Vengeful anger, retribution, punishment by revenge

Strife: Bitter or violent conflict, struggle, fight, contention

Seditions: Resistance or insurrection against lawful authority

Heresies: Denial of truth, opinions contrary to truth or generally accepted beliefs

Envyings: Resentment of another's advantage, desire to possess the same

Murders: Premeditated malice, torture, brutality, slaying

Drunkenness: Intoxication, habitual excessive use

Revellings: Verbal abuse, abusive language


Who will Not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven: 1 Corinthians 6:9, 11

......Unrighteous, Fornicators, Adulterers, Effeminate, Abusers of themselves with mankind(homosexuals), Thieves, Covetous, Drunkards, Revilers, Extortioners,

....And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.




Works of the Spirit: - Galations 5:22

Love It is my love for this Country and for Lost Sinners that I write threads to help others find Truth. Though I may oftentimes respond in wrath, vengeance, revelings, or seditions; I will try to continuously walk in the Spirit. Even though Christ is our example, we are supposed to be the salt of the earth, and the light unto the darkness. And what are we to do if our salt loses is saltiness.....

Joy

Peace

Longsuffering

Gentleness

Goodness

Faith

Meekness: Mild, moderate, submissive, indure with patience and without resentment

Temperance

Against these there is no law. If we live in the Spirit, let us walk in the Spirit.

Matthew 5

Blessed are the:

Meek: Mild, moderate, submissive, endure with patience and without resentment

Poor in Spirit: Humble, Contrite, not forceful or aggressive, not haughty, not arrogant

Those that mourn:

Those that hunger and thirst for Righteousness: People are searching to fill themselves with the things of this world. They will not be fulfilled until they seek to fill themselves with Righteousness.

Merciful: Help those who don't deserve it, don't punish those that do deserve it

Pure in heart

Peacemakers

Star_Cards
08-13-2012, 02:07 PM
I'm not following the point of this thread. I happen to be liberal and atheist so I'm not sure what you are thanking me for.

habsheaven
08-13-2012, 02:14 PM
You're not alone. I have no idea what posting the definitions of words from a dictionary has to do with anything. Don't most of us already know the definitions of these words?

Star_Cards
08-13-2012, 02:38 PM
and... we all know that only liberals, atheists, or homosexuals can fornicate, commit adultery, be envious, murder, and so on.

Wickabee
08-13-2012, 02:38 PM
I'm with you two.

mrveggieman
08-13-2012, 02:53 PM
Don't worry it's just aladog using another one of his assumed names.

jessejordan419
08-13-2012, 04:34 PM
Go ahead and mock. The Truth is there for all to see. You can be saved, but still walk in the flesh; the Spirit beckons for you to walk in the Spirit, and this is the fruit of those who walk in Spirit. However, all who are not saved walk in the flesh. The good works of those who don't have Grace is dead. You can't buy your way into heaven with good deeds. You must have Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ to make it to heaven.

pghin08
08-13-2012, 04:38 PM
Go ahead and mock. The Truth is there for all to see. You can be saved, but still walk in the flesh; the Spirit beckons for you to walk in the Spirit, and this is the fruit of those who walk in Spirit. However, all who are not saved walk in the flesh. The good works of those who don't have Grace is dead. You can't buy your way into heaven with good deeds. You must have Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ to make it to heaven.

That's an issue I've often had. Why should a charitable atheist who does tremendous things to help others be damned, while someone who has done terrible things, but believes Jesus Christ died for his sins ascend to heaven?

habsheaven
08-13-2012, 04:41 PM
That's an issue I've often had. Why should a charitable atheist who does tremendous things to help others be damned, while someone who has done terrible things, but believes Jesus Christ died for his sins ascend to heaven?

That's really easy to answer. The believer (despite his wrongdoings) is on the right team. The atheist plays for the wrong team (no matter how righteous he is). You can apply that philosophy to all facets of life.

Star_Cards
08-13-2012, 04:58 PM
Go ahead and mock. The Truth is there for all to see. You can be saved, but still walk in the flesh; the Spirit beckons for you to walk in the Spirit, and this is the fruit of those who walk in Spirit. However, all who are not saved walk in the flesh. The good works of those who don't have Grace is dead. You can't buy your way into heaven with good deeds. You must have Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ to make it to heaven.

how is asking what your point is considered mocking? I really want to know what the meaning of your post is.

shrewsbury
08-13-2012, 05:34 PM
jesse is giving you information he deems to be extremely important. That is information is you must believe Jesus to transcend are knowledge on what we are, who we are, and our purpose in life.

you can believe what man tells you or you can listen to the source, the choice is yours.


Why should a charitable atheist who does tremendous things to help others be damned, while someone who has done terrible things, but believes Jesus Christ died for his sins ascend to heaven?

it is much more difficult than this, and it could be easily argued that even those that are in hell can get out and go to heaven.

and habs, there is no team or side to be on, either you believe or you do not.

duwal
08-13-2012, 06:21 PM
jesse is giving you information he deems to be extremely important. That is information is you must believe Jesus to transcend are knowledge on what we are, who we are, and our purpose in life.

you can believe what man tells you or you can listen to the source, the choice is yours.



it is much more difficult than this, and it could be easily argued that even those that are in hell can get out and go to heaven.

and habs, there is no team or side to be on, either you believe or you do not.


ummm...yeah bolded is pretty much the definition of choosing a side

jessejordan419
08-13-2012, 08:31 PM
I finished my statement too short. Someone saved can live in the flesh, however, they will recieve punishment for their sins by a loving Father who rightfully corrects His children. If the saved person does not repent of those sins, they will have a fog in between them and God. This fog that separates creates the confusion the believer has on why God isn't speaking to them or answering their prayers.

The good works of the believer are the treasure that is stored up for them in heaven, where rust cannot decay, and moths cannot destroy.


Good works by a non-believer are in vain, no one can earn their way into heaven. It is the gift of God for those who believe that Jesus is Lord and was resurrected.

Jesus said to give in secret. Christians who give publicly are not following the word. People like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet who "pledge" 40 billion, or whatever, to charity are deluding themselves by thinking they can buy their way into heaven. People give publicly to recieve praise.

Christians who willfully act in defiant rebellion against God's word, and commit evil and haneous acts against the innocent may not be real Christians after all.

Jesus said in Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

So there are even many who call themselves Christians, and do good works, may not be truely saved. You have to submit to Almighty God by naming the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior. A true Christian will hear the Holy Spirit convict their heart through the Word of God. They may turn to sin, and they make stumble, or they may be taken by addictions to works of the flesh. But eventually, their heart will grieve, and they will one day make the effort to walk in the Spirit again.

Some don't, and look back. Jesus said to remember Lot's wife, who turned back to look at Sodom, and she was turned to a pillar of salt. The Angel of the Lord had told her specifically not to, and told her the consequences, but she dis it anyway. The consequences for Christians who sin is the separation of fellowship with the Father in prayer, as well as a form of punishment the Father will choose to reprimand His child.

The non-believer will have their reward in full on the Earth, and their punishment is an eternity of separation from the Father in hell.

habsheaven
08-13-2012, 09:11 PM
jesse is giving you information he deems to be extremely important. That is information is you must believe Jesus to transcend are knowledge on what we are, who we are, and our purpose in life.

you can believe what man tells you or you can listen to the source, the choice is yours.



it is much more difficult than this, and it could be easily argued that even those that are in hell can get out and go to heaven.

and habs, there is no team or side to be on, either you believe or you do not.

Jay, that may be your opinion but it is not the opinion of many others. Ask ole jessieboy here. Betcha he thinks our team is lead by the devil himself.

habsheaven
08-13-2012, 09:16 PM
I finished my statement too short. Someone saved can live in the flesh, however, they will recieve punishment for their sins by a loving Father who rightfully corrects His children. If the saved person does not repent of those sins, they will have a fog in between them and God. This fog that separates creates the confusion the believer has on why God isn't speaking to them or answering their prayers.

The good works of the believer are the treasure that is stored up for them in heaven, where rust cannot decay, and moths cannot destroy.


Good works by a non-believer are in vain, no one can earn their way into heaven. It is the gift of God for those who believe that Jesus is Lord and was resurrected.

Jesus said to give in secret. Christians who give publicly are not following the word. People like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet who "pledge" 40 billion, or whatever, to charity are deluding themselves by thinking they can buy their way into heaven. People give publicly to recieve praise.

Christians who willfully act in defiant rebellion against God's word, and commit evil and haneous acts against the innocent may not be real Christians after all.

Jesus said in Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

So there are even many who call themselves Christians, and do good works, may not be truely saved. You have to submit to Almighty God by naming the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior. A true Christian will hear the Holy Spirit convict their heart through the Word of God. They may turn to sin, and they make stumble, or they may be taken by addictions to works of the flesh. But eventually, their heart will grieve, and they will one day make the effort to walk in the Spirit again.

Some don't, and look back. Jesus said to remember Lot's wife, who turned back to look at Sodom, and she was turned to a pillar of salt. The Angel of the Lord had told her specifically not to, and told her the consequences, but she dis it anyway. The consequences for Christians who sin is the separation of fellowship with the Father in prayer, as well as a form of punishment the Father will choose to reprimand His child.

The non-believer will have their reward in full on the Earth, and their punishment is an eternity of separation from the Father in hell.

Can you read minds now? When did Buffett and Gates say they donate millions so that they can get into Heaven? Maybe they are just good-minded people who like to help out.

The rest of your post is equally suspect.

jessejordan419
08-13-2012, 09:18 PM
it is much more difficult than this, and it could be easily argued that even those that are in hell can get out and go to heaven.


Are you referring to purgatory?

mrveggieman
08-14-2012, 08:35 AM
it is much more difficult than this, and it could be easily argued that even those that are in hell can get out and go to heaven.



I know in islam every ramadan some mulisms are released from hell to be with Allah(God) in heaven. However I have never heard a christian say that one could be released from hell and sent to heaven. I was always taught in christanity once you go to hell your are there for all of eternity. Not saying that your are wrong Shrew but I have never heard a christian spin it like that. Carry on.

jessejordan419
08-14-2012, 01:20 PM
I know in islam every ramadan some mulisms are released from hell to be with Allah(God) in heaven. However I have never heard a christian say that one could be released from hell and sent to heaven. I was always taught in christanity once you go to hell your are there for all of eternity. Not saying that your are wrong Shrew but I have never heard a christian spin it like that. Carry on.

This is correct. In the King James Bible, there is no evidence for purgatory, it is a Catholic invention, and seems to imply live like you want on Earth, you don't have to submit to Christ because there's another way out.

The believer suffers one death, and then the judgement of their whole life before Christ. Their works of the flesh will be burned up, but their works in the Spirit will be their reward in heaven. The non-believer suffers two deaths: the death of the body, and the second death after their judgement, where they are cast into thw lake of fire.

There are two statements to be heard by Jesus when one dies:
*Well done good and faithful servant, or
*Be gone from me workers of iniquity, I never knew you.


Islam teaches you good works and bad works are laid on a scale, and which one that outweighs the other is where you will go. However, how does one ever keep track of what is good or what is bad? What is the standard? No man can possibly earn his way to heaven, and islam teaches you can earn heaven. Other religions teach this as well, but it is in vain.

Jesus lived a sinless life in perfect submission to the Father's will. Yes he questioned if there was another way, by asking if this cup may pass from my hands, but knew there was no other way. He did not want y be separated from the Father at the Cross, but he did His Father's will anyway. Jesus is the standard, and you either choose to believe in Him or you do not.

There is no other name given to men by which to be saved.

jessejordan419
08-14-2012, 01:23 PM
Can you read minds now? When did Buffett and Gates say they donate millions so that they can get into Heaven? Maybe they are just good-minded people who like to help out.

The rest of your post is equally suspect.

Every post of yours I have ever had the joy to read has been suspect.

habsheaven
08-14-2012, 01:25 PM
Every post of yours I have ever had the joy to read has been suspect.

Care to address the Buffett and Gates comment, or do you stand by what you said?

Wickabee
08-14-2012, 01:26 PM
Every post of yours I have ever had the joy to read has been suspect.

How, specifically?

jessejordan419
08-14-2012, 11:06 PM
Care to address the Buffett and Gates comment, or do you stand by what you said?

I don't care to respond to you at all. And I say that with great joy.

You deflect by finding the most minute point and make a mountain out of a molehill to bypass the actual topic at hand.

Yes, I believe they think they can buy their way to heaven. Yes, I think others will see their "good works", and be deluded into thinking that good works will get you to heaven.

Too many people already think they are a "good person", and will therefore go to heaven.

But you would rather make mountains of molehills so you can dismiss the Truth of the topic in the op.

habsheaven
08-14-2012, 11:10 PM
I don't care to respond to you at all. And I say that with great joy.

You deflect by finding the most minute point and make a mountain out of a molehill to bypass the actual topic at hand.

Yes, I believe they think they can buy their way to heaven. Yes, I think others will see their "good works", and be deluded into thinking that good works will get you to heaven.

Too many people already think they are a "good person", and will therefore go to heaven.

But you would rather make mountains of molehills so you can dismiss the Truth of the topic in the op.

You haven't spoken a single TRUTH about anything since you started posting on this board. Jesus would be ashamed of your words on these boards. But don't take my word for it, ask one of your christian brothers.

jessejordan419
08-14-2012, 11:16 PM
Since this thread is now thoroughly derailed, gates and buffet are not giving in secret, which is how Jesus said to give. People give in public to puff themselves up, to receive praise, to give to their own charities as tax shelters and to use the amenities of those charities, and to be the honor of endless banquets.

If they truly wanted to help, the would fork over the dough immediately to causes they have no monetary or corporate interstate in, roll up their sleeves and get to work. But by not doing these things, their motives are clear for those to see who know otherwise.

jessejordan419
08-14-2012, 11:19 PM
You haven't spoken a single TRUTH about anything since you started posting on this board. Jesus would be ashamed of your words on these boards. But don't take my word for it, ask one of your christian brothers.


Well, why don't you find a point of Scripture and ACTUALLY debate me on Scripture. If there is no Truth, kindly point it out with Scripture so as to reprove me.

Stop your libel, slander, rant, accusation, and deflection and point out the Scripture that is not Truth.

I challenge you.

jessejordan419
08-14-2012, 11:21 PM
How, specifically?

I wasn't speaking to you, but I see how yall love to tag team everyone. Are yall the same person on two ip addresses?

habsheaven
08-14-2012, 11:32 PM
To prove libel you would have to prove what I am saying is untrue. You can't prove anything you say, so logically you can't prove it is truth.

Scripture:

Virgin birth: impossible
Resurrection: impossible
Noah 900+ years old: impossible

The list is endless, try to limit your response to just the PROOF.

habsheaven
08-14-2012, 11:33 PM
I wasn't speaking to you, but I see how yall love to tag team everyone. Are yall the same person on two ip addresses?

Lol, no wickabee lives next door. We get together everyday to discuss strategy.

Wickabee
08-15-2012, 12:25 AM
I wasn't speaking to you,
I know. I was just wondering if you are able to back up your claim. I see you are not.


but I see how yall love to tag team everyone.
I don't even know what you mean by this...?


Are yall the same person on two ip addresses?
No, and if you suggest I am...I mean, we are again, I will consider that libel!
(hint: slander is spoken. Nothing here is spoken)

Oh, and you're the only one making accusations here. But I'm sure that's just my crazy liberal logic again. doy doy doy.

habsheaven
08-18-2012, 10:56 AM
Well, why don't you find a point of Scripture and ACTUALLY debate me on Scripture. If there is no Truth, kindly point it out with Scripture so as to reprove me.

Stop your libel, slander, rant, accusation, and deflection and point out the Scripture that is not Truth.

I challenge you.

Is this how you "challenge" everybody? Did I misinterpret your challenge? Was it a challenge to see who could run away fastest? I'm waiting!

jessejordan419
08-23-2012, 03:30 AM
To prove libel you would have to prove what I am saying is untrue. You can't prove anything you say, so logically you can't prove it is truth.

Scripture:

Virgin birth: impossible
Resurrection: impossible
Noah 900+ years old: impossible

The list is endless, try to limit your response to just the PROOF.


By your own logic our existance is impossible. Something cannot be created out of nothing, but yet the atheist god of science has proven this happened. And yet, you believe.

The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God. I didn't say it, the Bible does.

I can't "prove" the Bible to you. It takes Faith. If God wanted to "prove" Himself, we wouldn't be free to make the choice to believe. We would be robots. God desires a relationship with us, and the only way for that to happen is through Jesus Christ. He said, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light; no one comes to Tue Father but by me.

By the way, it takes faith to believe in evolution, because it is only a theory, and proven to be wrong. It also takes faith to be an atheist, faith that there is no God. Because you cannot prove He doesn't exist either.....

jessejordan419
08-23-2012, 03:32 AM
I know. I was just wondering if you are able to back up your claim. I see you are not.


I don't even know what you mean by this...?


No, and if you suggest I am...I mean, we are again, I will consider that libel!
(hint: slander is spoken. Nothing here is spoken)

Oh, and you're the only one making accusations here. But I'm sure that's just my crazy liberal logic again. doy doy doy.

Touchy nerve, I must be close.....

For your information, I made no accusation, I merely asked a question. But you seem to feel the need to run to his defence.....

jessejordan419
08-23-2012, 03:41 AM
Is this how you "challenge" everybody? Did I misinterpret your challenge? Was it a challenge to see who could run away fastest? I'm waiting!

What, is it too much to ask you to find Scriptures you don't believe in to back up your arguments?

I guess so, you would rather call me a liar, label all the Truth I have laid out as untruthful, and totally avoid debating any point whatsoever. Deflection, namecalling, and avoidance are the signs of a losing argument.

But go ahead and avoid actually pointing out the items that you believe are not Truth, because its much easier for you to avoid actual debate. Namecalling, ridicule, and generalization allow you avoid having to state your case. Don't worry, the rest of the liberals use these tactics constantly; its the only way they can effect "change."

For if they told the truth, no one in their right mind would ever follow them. Oh, sorry.

habsheaven
08-23-2012, 09:10 AM
By your own logic our existance is impossible. Something cannot be created out of nothing, but yet the atheist god of science has proven this happened. And yet, you believe.

Not sure what logic YOU are using but it is not MY logic. The fact we DO EXIST logically means it IS possible. Apparently something CAN be created out of NOTHING or YOUR GOD would not exist. What created HIM?

The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God. I didn't say it, the Bible does.

The Bible says a lot of garbage. Why would this statement be any different?

I can't "prove" the Bible to you. It takes Faith. If God wanted to "prove" Himself, we wouldn't be free to make the choice to believe. We would be robots. God desires a relationship with us, and the only way for that to happen is through Jesus Christ. He said, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light; no one comes to Tue Father but by me.

More biblical rhetoric. I know YOU can't PROVE the bible to me or anyone. That was the point of the challenge. You fail miserably. Stop calling everything you quote as TRUTH, if you can't PROVE a darn thing.

By the way, it takes faith to believe in evolution, because it is only a theory, and proven to be wrong. It also takes faith to be an atheist, faith that there is no God. Because you cannot prove He doesn't exist either.....

It takes COMMON SENSE to believe in evolution and be an atheist. Not faith, you are really confused.



Responses in bold.

habsheaven
08-23-2012, 09:14 AM
What, is it too much to ask you to find Scriptures you don't believe in to back up your arguments?

I guess so, you would rather call me a liar, label all the Truth I have laid out as untruthful, and totally avoid debating any point whatsoever. Deflection, namecalling, and avoidance are the signs of a losing argument.

But go ahead and avoid actually pointing out the items that you believe are not Truth, because its much easier for you to avoid actual debate. Namecalling, ridicule, and generalization allow you avoid having to state your case. Don't worry, the rest of the liberals use these tactics constantly; its the only way they can effect "change."

For if they told the truth, no one in their right mind would ever follow them. Oh, sorry.

Is not the whole creation story (Genesis) not scripture? Do we not consider the story of Jesus as scripture? If so, I already listed a couple UN-TRUTHS. I have yet to see you dispute them with FACTS.

shrewsbury
08-23-2012, 09:37 AM
It takes COMMON SENSE to believe in evolution and be an atheist.

I would disagree. evolution of humans is a hypothesis, not a fact. Sure you could say the same about Jesus being the messiah.

habsheaven
08-23-2012, 09:45 AM
I would disagree. evolution of humans is a hypothesis, not a fact. Sure you could say the same about Jesus being the messiah.

A hypothesis is arrived at by using COMMON SENSE, not faith. Circumstances around Jesus defy scientifically proven facts. Therefore you have to have faith. They are not the same.

shrewsbury
08-23-2012, 09:56 AM
A hypothesis is arrived at by using COMMON SENSE, not faith. Circumstances around Jesus defy scientifically proven facts. Therefore you have to have faith. They are not the same.

and those against faith can only hold onto the fact that somethings cannot be explained by science, but the truth is there are many things science cannot explain. there are things in nature, biology, and many more fields that cannot be explained and are unknown. so if the only stance someone has in that it cannot be explained by science, then they have little to go on.

when science can prove where we all came from, I may jump on for the ride, but as for now, I can see nothing more logical than Jesus is God, and created us humans.

I know many can poke holes into "my logic" but I can do the same to theirs.

habsheaven
08-23-2012, 10:02 AM
and those against faith can only hold onto the fact that somethings cannot be explained by science, but the truth is there are many things science cannot explain. there are things in nature, biology, and many more fields that cannot be explained and are unknown. so if the only stance someone has in that it cannot be explained by science, then they have little to go on.

when science can prove where we all came from, I may jump on for the ride, but as for now, I can see nothing more logical than Jesus is God, and created us humans.

I know many can poke holes into "my logic" but I can do the same to theirs.

I am fine knowing that there are things that are unexplainable. I reserve judgement on those. When it comes to God and Jesus, the claims made by religion go past "unexplainable" and reach the point of scientifically proven impossible.

shrewsbury
08-23-2012, 11:04 AM
but lightning striking primordial ooze and creating life is proven?

Wickabee
08-23-2012, 12:08 PM
but lightning striking primordial ooze and creating life is proven?

As proven as "A being we can't see hear or even prove exists made everything."

My biggest problem with religion is, if something is unknown, "God did it" becomes the standard answer.

habsheaven
08-23-2012, 12:13 PM
but lightning striking primordial ooze and creating life is proven?

Jay, where did I say or imply that?

shrewsbury
08-23-2012, 12:47 PM
habs, you did not, but the top person on evolution did and does. just pointing out that common sense is not in everything.

wickabee, I can agree with that (that is 2 agreements is a week, something crazy must be going on)

habsheaven
08-23-2012, 12:50 PM
habs, you did not, but the top person on evolution did and does. just pointing out that common sense is not in everything.

wickabee, I can agree with that (that is 2 agreements is a week, something crazy must be going on)

Well that is news to me. I do not consider the origin of life and evolution to be the same thing. Evolution is the process that began after life was created. It is not an explanation on how life began.

Wickabee
08-23-2012, 12:54 PM
wickabee, I can agree with that (that is 2 agreements is a week, something crazy must be going on)

I think you're a smart guy, every once in awhile you say something incredibly stupid though.
I imagine you think exactly the same of me.