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mikesilvia
08-30-2012, 06:10 PM
TAMPA -- Mitt Romney has actively been running for president for almost six years, but his speech to accept the Republican nomination here on Thursday night will mark his first formal introduction to large swaths of the electorate.Even after countless stump speeches, interviews, and hundreds of millions of dollars spent by both sides to define him, Romney remains somewhat of a blank slate to many voters, even at this relatively late date in the campaign.In a CBS News poll released on Thursday, 31 percent of registered voters said that they had a favorable view of Romney, while 36 percent...

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JustAlex
08-30-2012, 06:19 PM
DOUBT IT!

"In the CBS News poll, only 41 percent of voters said that Romney understands the problems of people like them, while 50 percent said that he did not."

How in the world can richie rich Mittens ever understand or leave an impression on regular joes like us?

Meanwhile, his party continues it's never ending crusade against women, gays, immigrants, muslims, other minorities, porn, abortion..... practically everyone except rich white christian men.

ensbergcollector
08-30-2012, 06:36 PM
DOUBT IT!

"In the CBS News poll, only 41 percent of voters said that Romney understands the problems of people like them, while 50 percent said that he did not."

How in the world can richie rich Mittens ever understand or leave an impression on regular joes like us?

Meanwhile, his party continues it's never ending crusade against women, gays, immigrants, muslims, other minorities, porn, abortion..... practically everyone except rich white christian men.

oppose gay marriage and you are on a crusade against gays
oppose abortion and and you are on a crusade against women
oppose illegal immigration and you are on a crusade against immigrants
oppose welfare abuses and you are on a crusade against minorities

give me a break man. just because people have differences of opinions does not mean they are on a crusade, at war with, etc.

there are plenty of rich democrats which no one on the left seems to care about. but all the sudden it is an offense to the american people that romney has money. I am so tired of the fake outrage.

boba
08-30-2012, 06:52 PM
oppose gay marriage and you are on a crusade against gays
oppose abortion and and you are on a crusade against women
oppose illegal immigration and you are on a crusade against immigrants
oppose welfare abuses and you are on a crusade against minorities

give me a break man. just because people have differences of opinions does not mean they are on a crusade, at war with, etc.

there are plenty of rich democrats which no one on the left seems to care about. but all the sudden it is an offense to the american people that romney has money. I am so tired of the fake outrage.

http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq190/bobafett94/photos/dont-feed-the-troll.jpg

JustAlex
08-30-2012, 07:02 PM
You're kidding right?


oppose gay marriage and you are on a crusade against gays

You mean the way the GOP platform is saying that congress should pass an amendment to make marriage SOLELY between one man and one woman? Effectively making gay marriage 100% impossible and denying gays all the rights that go along with that?

Yes, I would say that's a huge crusade, jihad, whatever else you want to call it.

oppose abortion and and you are on a crusade against women

Yes, it's the right of women to have an abortion if they choose to, and the SCOTUS is on their side, too bad the GOP doesn't respect anything the SCOTUS says when it's inconvenient to them.

oppose illegal immigration and you are on a crusade against immigrants

LOL, laws like the Arizona law that clearly makes racial profiling legal is a clear affront to legal immigrants and American born hispanics. Furthermore, the fact that they would rather deport young adults just because their parents dragged them to this country when they were very young is also a clear crusade against them. The Dream Act is a GREAT idea and it rewards young immigrants by giving them residency IF they serve the army (which is the most LOYAL thing anyone can do) or go to college which is one of the best decisions a young person can do. But of course the GOP wants none of that!

oppose welfare abuses and you are on a crusade against minorities

LOL awesome, I didn't even mention welfare or any other entitlement, I guess you automatically assume that most minorities are on it.....maybe you should look at the stats that clearly say that more WHITES are on food stamps and welfare than blacks and hispanics.

LAZY WHITE PEOPLE.....Am, I right?


give me a break man. just because people have differences of opinions does not mean they are on a crusade, at war with, etc.

there are plenty of rich democrats which no one on the left seems to care about. but all the sudden it is an offense to the american people that romney has money. I am so tired of the fake outrage.

JustAlex
08-30-2012, 07:02 PM
@boba....thanks for the awesome contribution to the thread. :rolleyes:

boba
08-30-2012, 07:03 PM
Anytime

ensbergcollector
08-30-2012, 07:43 PM
i will make one clarification. alex, i made an assumption and I am sorry for that. I hear on here often that any opposition to welfare programs is racist. I have never understood it because like you say, there are more whites on welfare than any other race. I assumed that is what you meant which obviously you didn't.
I do not think welfare has anything to do with race, but by making an assumption about what you meant, it came across that way. Sorry.

shrewsbury
08-30-2012, 10:25 PM
well he has lived through his wife having cancer and MS, he has also made a fortune. he has also been a US governor, spent 2 1/2 years as a missionary, and degrees from harvard and BYU. was hit by a drunk driver, his friend was killed and the police thought thought he was dead, and lived through it all. 3.97 GPA from BYU. graduated laude and top 5% of the harvard law school class of 1975. turned around the 99 winter olympics and donated 1 million out of his own pocket and refused to take a salary.

seems any of us could learn a lot, whether we agree with all his ideas or not.

shrewsbury
08-30-2012, 10:42 PM
Meanwhile, his party continues it's never ending crusade against women, gays, immigrants, muslims, other minorities, porn, abortion..... practically everyone except rich white christian men.

crusade? so being against gay marriage is a crusade against gays? being against killing babies and your anti female? be against the oppression of gays, women and children and be considered anti muslim? be against illegal immigration and you are anti immigrant? be against children having access to porn and you are anti porn?

it is not about the person, their race or religion, but what they do. the only thing you can say that is bad about your favorite mitty is he does not support gay marriage, i will give you that one.

Wickabee
08-30-2012, 10:57 PM
crusade? so being against gay marriage is a crusade against gays? being against killing babies and your anti female? be against the oppression of gays, women and children and be considered anti muslim? be against illegal immigration and you are anti immigrant? be against children having access to porn and you are anti porn?


I really don't want to start another back-and-forth, but the levels of conservative whining have gone through the roof since in the past couple days. I realize you're going to say this isn't whining, but it is. I don't know how many times I've heard/read conservatives make this exact speech whining how they "just can't win" with liberals. Is there a newsletter you guys receive telling you what this week's talking points are? It's eerie how it goes. For several days at a time conservatives all say the exact same thing, then stop for a week, then start again with some new line or paragraph.
Again, I'm not attacking and I don't want an argument, it just kind of amazes me how this happens. I've seen it with FOX affiliates lots, but this is on an everyday-man level. I'm not even saying it's an actual thing, it's entirely possible I've come across a massive coincidence. I'm just stupified by it.

shrewsbury
08-30-2012, 11:34 PM
wickabee, you are always welcomed to speak your mind with me. I think it may be the old" chicken and the egg" debate.

often we seem to be countering the liberal efforts to bring us down, so we all would have close to the same thing to say about anti conservative talk and comments.

so the best argument you or any conservative have against the facts i stated in my two previous posts, is I am whining?

it was stated that mitt could not teach the average person nothing, i pointed out he obviously could. it was said that he was anti everything, except white christian males, i pointed out he was not.

so do you call it whining when a anti conservative comment was shown not to e true? if so, cool, i was whining.

JustAlex
08-30-2012, 11:46 PM
well he has lived through his wife having cancer and MS, he has also made a fortune.

Welcome to the real world where random people get all kinds of diseases, unfortunately for regular people, they don't have millions upon millions to help them out the way the Romneys did, those people usually DIE!

he has also been a US governor, spent 2 1/2 years as a missionary, and degrees from harvard and BYU.

Which his CRAZY religion forces him to do.....and yes, Mormonism is about as crazy as it gets, it wasn't too long ago that they thought polygamy was the way to go and of course their treatment of black people is deplorable!!!

was hit by a drunk driver, his friend was killed and the police thought thought he was dead, and lived through it all. 3.97 GPA from BYU. graduated ™™™ laude and top 5% of the harvard law school class of 1975. turned around the 99 winter olympics and donated 1 million out of his own pocket and refused to take a salary.

When you have at least $230 million that's nothing to be proud of.....it would be the equivalent to me donating $10 refusing to take a salary equivalent to $5.

seems any of us could learn a lot, whether we agree with all his ideas or not.

I have NOTHING to learn from Mittens....or Obama for that matter.


Responses in bold.

JustAlex
08-30-2012, 11:48 PM
crusade? so being against gay marriage is a crusade against gays? being against killing babies and your anti female? be against the oppression of gays, women and children and be considered anti muslim? be against illegal immigration and you are anti immigrant? be against children having access to porn and you are anti porn?

it is not about the person, their race or religion, but what they do. the only thing you can say that is bad about your favorite mitty is he does not support gay marriage, i will give you that one.

I've already given my response to what you said in post #5.

shrewsbury
08-31-2012, 12:15 AM
alex, both posts are quite different. show me how is anti everything you mentioned.

as for the post you replied to.
are you jealous of rich people? donating any amount of money is something to be proud of and not accepting pay for your time, is also something to be proud of. which rich liberals stepped up to help out a failing olympics hosted in the USA donating a million dollars and their time?

i would expect you to call any religion crazy.
i would bet obama and mitt could both teach you quite a it about many things, you just can't see the person behind the politics.

Wickabee
08-31-2012, 12:29 AM
wickabee, you are always welcomed to speak your mind with me. I think it may be the old" chicken and the egg" debate.
Believe me, I do (but I think you knew that).


often we seem to be countering the liberal efforts to bring us down, so we all would have close to the same thing to say about anti conservative talk and comments.
I could buy that if the conservative crowd wasn't coming out with this speech or the "sure, blame Bush for everything" before it has actually said. Look around these very boards, conservatives are preemptively bringing these things up before any liberal can or does. It's not a defense, because most times, nothing related was said in the first place. It seems very passive-aggressive.


so the best argument you or any conservative have against the facts i stated in my two previous posts, is I am whining?
This is why I tip-toed. It wasn't an argument for or against anything. It was a barely related observation. I considered making a new thread, but figured I'd be called a conservative basher if I did.


it was stated that mitt could not teach the average person nothing, i pointed out he obviously could. it was said that he was anti everything, except white christian males, i pointed out he was not.

so do you call it whining when a anti conservative comment was shown not to e true? if so, cool, i was whining.
So why did you write out the list I quoted in post 11? Unless that rant (which several conservatives on these boards have posted almost verbatim) actually has something to do with what Mitt Romney can teach people.

For the record I don't think he's a bad guy, I just think he is among the least knowledgeable on the average American. Not saying Obama knows it all, but he definitely has more experience being an average American and can relate to the average American more than Mitt. Just my opinion, I don't know either guy personally.

shrewsbury
08-31-2012, 01:15 AM
i don't like either, ut i do not think obama knows the average american. after his grandmother comment and the first lady's comment, i think they are from removed from us average people.

but in obama's defense, mitt and ryan are far removed as well.
put simply i am screwed either way. being middle class i will take the rath of the taxman either way, and nobody is going to be happy either way.

if america is failing it is our politicians and laws that are doing it.

and as a final note, you will be called a basher any how, we both know it. live with it, own it, your canadian so you will survive. (until we all move up there)

Wickabee
08-31-2012, 12:32 PM
I'd own it if that's what I was doing. It's not, so I won't.