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mrveggieman
09-06-2012, 04:31 PM
Execute this clown!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/jury-convicts-drew-peterson-3rd-wifes-death-194658507.html

theonedru
09-06-2012, 06:53 PM
Execute this clown!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/jury-convicts-drew-peterson-3rd-wifes-death-194658507.html

For someone of a religious nature you sure love the concept of killing people...

duwal
09-06-2012, 08:50 PM
For someone of a religious nature you sure love the concept of killing people...

it all depends on someone's perspective I guess

shrewsbury
09-06-2012, 10:17 PM
veggie, i am with you on this one!!

AUTaxMan
09-06-2012, 10:39 PM
about time this scumbag was convicted of murder. it only took three wives.

mrveggieman
09-07-2012, 08:39 AM
For someone of a religious nature you sure love the concept of killing people...

If you are a mudering scumbag piece of trash you have proven that you are not worthy of living and need to be put too death so yes I am 100% in favor of the death penalty under certian circumstances. I am not in favor of abortion because no unborn child has ever murdered anyone.

shrewsbury
09-07-2012, 10:25 AM
veggie, i forget who said it but here is the quote;

" I am for the death penalty, but for the rapist, not the baby"

mrveggieman
09-07-2012, 10:31 AM
veggie, i forget who said it but here is the quote;

" I am for the death penalty, but for the rapist, not the baby"


CHURCH!! :love0030::love0030::love0030:

Star_Cards
09-07-2012, 10:53 AM
I'm no Drew Petterson apologist and I haven't heard a ton about this case but it seems odd that they found him guilty without any physical evidence. If I'm wrong about that fact please let me know, but seems rather odd.

I do feel that they guy is probably guilty of murder in more than one of these cases, but it's still a little odd.

AUTaxMan
09-07-2012, 11:39 AM
I'm no Drew Petterson apologist and I haven't heard a ton about this case but it seems odd that they found him guilty without any physical evidence. If I'm wrong about that fact please let me know, but seems rather odd.

I do feel that they guy is probably guilty of murder in more than one of these cases, but it's still a little odd.


People are found guilty on circumstantial evidence all the time, although it is becoming less and less common in our present world of CSI viewers, where juries almost always expect there to be physical evidence.

theonedru
09-07-2012, 01:17 PM
How bout instead of killing these people we revoke their citizenship and sell them to Somali pirates for slave labor, or lifetime solitary confinement with the most basic of basic necessities (toilet, light, basic food that meets basic nutrient guidelines) no contact with anyone, no tv nothing... That is way more harsher punishment than just letting them get off with death

mrveggieman
09-07-2012, 01:20 PM
How bout instead of killing these people we revoke their citizenship and sell them to Somali pirates for slave labor, or lifetime solitary confinement with the most basic of basic necessities (toilet, light, basic food that meets basic nutrient guidelines) no contact with anyone, no tv nothing... That is way more harsher punishment than just letting them get off with death

I don't know if you were being funny or not but I actually like those ideas in some circumstances. Others are just not worthy of living and need to be tourtured and executed immediately.

theonedru
09-07-2012, 02:14 PM
I don't know if you were being funny or not but I actually like those ideas in some circumstances. Others are just not worthy of living and need to be tourtured and executed immediately.

Totally serious, absolute solitary away from anyone and everything is the worst thing you can do to someone.

shrewsbury
09-07-2012, 03:07 PM
dru, i can agree with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and use the funds we get from the sell to help the people hurt by them!!!

mrveggieman
09-07-2012, 03:11 PM
I know that I am veering off topic but I think that sex offendors and people who abuse children should be given the scarlet letter.

shrewsbury
09-07-2012, 03:50 PM
or a bullet to the head

mrveggieman
09-07-2012, 04:11 PM
or a bullet to the head


This. ^^^^^

theonedru
09-07-2012, 04:41 PM
I know that I am veering off topic but I think that sex offendors and people who abuse children should be given the scarlet letter.

So your saying its acceptable to do the same to others because your ridiculously bigoted outcry excludes them? what about children that sexually abuse or just abuse another child? Would you too give them an 1850's romance novel as well.....

theonedru
09-07-2012, 04:43 PM
or a bullet to the head

If you could see how truly gruesome it is to see someone die I bet you would not be so forth right with your violent antics.

Wickabee
09-07-2012, 04:57 PM
Hahaha <br />
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Seriously though, you bring up a very interesting point. I remember reading about a case in (I think) Alabama where two 12 year olds had sex with each other and both were hit with statutory...

theonedru
09-07-2012, 05:21 PM
According to shrew &amp; veggie you would shoot them in the head....

shrewsbury
09-07-2012, 05:29 PM
dru, you know so little about me. and if you had a loved one violently raped, killed, or molested, i bet you would not think these people deserve a second chance to do it again to another loved one of your's or someone else's.

and this brings up a great point, if you walked into your loved one being killed or raped, would you think it is not the fault of the person doing it and he deserves pitty? he has rights?

hopefully you would not coward away and allow them to get away and do it again, for every other crime he commits, is because you chose to do nothing and gave him his rights.

and you and i know there are always exceptions to everything, just like abortions. so twist it as you may, i still strongly believe prisoners should have no rights, and murderers, rapists, and molesters should be taken off this planet, and the cheapest way possible. (or we could sell them to the pirates and use the funds to help other victims and their families)

theonedru
09-07-2012, 05:42 PM
dru, you know so little about me. and if you had a loved one violently raped, killed, or molested, i bet you would not think these people deserve a second chance to do it again to another loved one of your's or someone else's.

and this brings up a great point, if you walked into your loved one being killed or raped, would you think it is not the fault of the person doing it and he deserves pitty? he has rights?

hopefully you would not coward away and allow them to get away and do it again, for every other crime he commits, is because you chose to do nothing and gave him his rights.

and you and i know there are always exceptions to everything, just like abortions. so twist it as you may, i still strongly believe prisoners should have no rights, and murderers, rapists, and molesters should be taken off this planet, and the cheapest way possible. (or we could sell them to the pirates and use the funds to help other victims and their families)

So if some child was acting in a violent way towards anther child or family member you would have no issue using deadly force against said youth? And if that child kills someone they deserve a bullet in the head ( you said that yourself in a past post) unless of course you were just venting without putting any real thought into what you were saying....

I have seen people die violent means before my eyes and it affects you in ways one cannot imagine. It haunts you like a disease its something I would wish upon no man. Its one thing to be the man and say I have no problem killing someone if I could them doing this or that but in all reality the majority of people would be in such traumatic shock that by the time it registered to do something its most likely too late

Wickabee
09-07-2012, 05:51 PM
if you had a loved one violently raped, killed, or molested, i bet you would not think these people deserve a second chance to do it again to another loved one of your's or someone else's.
Very true. However, this does not necessarily mean kill him.


and this brings up a great point, if you walked into your loved one being killed or raped, would you think it is not the fault of the person doing it and he deserves pitty? he has rights?
In the moment, I might kill him. I would definitely do what it takes to stop the act, for certain, but once that threat is over, killing him doesn't unrape my loved one. Rapist or not, he is a human and humans have rights.


hopefully you would not coward away and allow them to get away and do it again, for every other crime he commits, is because you chose to do nothing and gave him his rights.
His right to remorse and repentance yes. I don't know how, "You shouldn't be cavalier about killing people, even criminals" suddenly means "Don't punish, don't rehabilitate, just let him roam the streets and do it however many times he wants," but to you, it apparently does. Kind of like how not wasting money equals wanting to sit kids down in front of porn, right?
Why is everything all or nothing with you?


and you and i know there are always exceptions to everything, just like abortions. so twist it as you may, i still strongly believe prisoners should have no rights, and murderers, rapists, and molesters should be taken off this planet, and the cheapest way possible. (or we could sell them to the pirates and use the funds to help other victims and their families)
Again, you end up taking away the right to, or at least putting a block on, repentance. How about the criminal who goes in for life and (legitimately) finds God in the prison chapel, is truly repentant and, despite his evil works, now has a true heart and will be saved. That guy probably wouldn't have the tools or ability to repent without the right to religion. You're taking away that guy's ability to learn about and know God. Is that something you really, truly believe in.

If it is, I have to challenge your claims of being Christian.

shrewsbury
09-07-2012, 06:03 PM
ok, lets try to break this down. i still do not know why someone tries to find every exception to the rule then feel this nullifies the rule and makes it useless.

we were talking about prisoners, which how many children go to prison? not a large percent.
the thread was about a man killing someone or he killed all 3 people, not a child.

a child does not have a fully developed frontal lobe, thus would have a greater chance of rehabilitation.
if a child was stabbing a family member and a struck them to stop it and they died from the strike, i would not think i did wrong, nor had the intent of killing a child, nor had the intent of killing anyone, i was saving a life, i was not the cause but the effect.

if a man was stabbing a child to death, i would kill or maim them so they would never be in the position to do it again or i would be killed or maimed trying. i would not feel i did anything wrong, in fact i did what was right. i saved a child from a horrific death(or tried to) and perhaps a few more that could have been killed, when this man was rehabbed and let out of prison. the stats on a repeat offender is staggering.

i agree that many would be able to do nothing and not always by choice. but as part of a society, a family, a town, and a temple where God dwells, i believe it is part of personal responsibility to train the mind, body, and spirit so you can help yourself and others.
i believe that being healthy includes the ability to lessen the damage someone could do to you.

don;t think i promote violence, if you knew me, you would know i am one of the less violent people you would ever meet. but personal protection and protecting others should not be based on a violent intent, though the outcome is violent.

and getting back to prisoners rights, do you guys know that the vast majority of prisoners are repeat offenders and continue to commit crimes while in prison? they rape, steal, assault, murder, deal drugs, use drugs, smuggle, con, will you get the idea.

Wickabee
09-07-2012, 06:12 PM
ok, lets try to break this down. i still do not know why someone tries to find every exception to the rule then feel this nullifies the rule and makes it useless.
And I don't know why you have to take every argument you're against to its farthest possible conclusion, so I guess we're even there.


we were talking about prisoners, which how many children go to prison? not a large percent.
the thread was about a man killing someone or he killed all 3 people, not a child.
Topics progress and this one did. We were talking about murderers and rapists and career criminals and etc etc and how we should deal with these people as prisoners. Kids kill, how do you deal with it? A couple years ago a 16 year old girl stabbed another 16 year old girl and killed her at a party in my town. Should the first girl be shot in the head?


a child does not have a fully developed frontal lobe, thus would have a greater chance of rehabilitation.
True, but this does not mean someone without a fully developed frontal lobe has zero chance of rehabilitation.


if a child was stabbing a family member and a struck them to stop it and they died from the strike, i would not think i did wrong, nor had the intent of killing a child, nor had the intent of killing anyone, i was saving a life, i was not the cause but the effect.
We're not talking about stopping the act, we're talking about once they're in custody. Apples and oranges.


if a man was stabbing a child to death, i would kill or maim them so they would never be in the position to do it again or i would be killed or maimed trying. i would not feel i did anything wrong, in fact i did what was right. i saved a child from a horrific death(or tried to) and perhaps a few more that could have been killed, when this man was rehabbed and let out of prison. the stats on a repeat offender is staggering.
I would do what I could to stop the act and, if he died, so be it. However, once he's in custody, you seem to want to shoot him. He's not a threat behind bars, he has the chance to find repentance, but you want to take that away. Very Christian of you.


i agree that many would be able to do nothing and not always by choice. but as part of a society, a family, a town, and a temple where God dwells, i believe it is part of personal responsibility to train the mind, body, and spirit so you can help yourself and others.
So a person who is panicky by nature is not a responsible member of society? I know I know you didn't say that...but you sort of did.


i believe that being healthy includes the ability to lessen the damage someone could do to you.
By killing others? Was that in Matthew or Luke?


don;t think i promote violence, if you knew me, you would know i am one of the less violent people you would ever meet. but personal protection and protecting others should not be based on a violent intent, though the outcome is violent.
I don't think you promote violence, but you do promote killing. Like I mentioned before, "Let he who is without sin..." and so on.


and getting back to prisoners rights, do you guys know that the vast majority of prisoners are repeat offenders and continue to commit crimes while in prison? they rape, steal, assault, murder, deal drugs, use drugs, smuggle, con, will you get the idea.[/quote]
Yes, and taking away their bibles and beards will stop all of this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously?

shrewsbury
09-07-2012, 06:18 PM
wickabee, are you pro life? i honestly forget. just trying to figure out where you are coming from.

look here and maybe this will tell you why you might as well let them back on the street to rape again

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11991158

1 in 3 stranger rapist have been arrested for other violent crimes


and for non sex offenders it is around 70% repeat offender.

and you think they should have rights?

and as far as the repentance factor, he took away his rights when he decided to do his crime, you are blaming me for something they choose to do and now that they have been caught they some how think they deserve rights and you think they do?

shrewsbury
09-07-2012, 06:20 PM
wickabee, we have already allowed them to keep their bibles and beards, why hasn't it stopped already?

Wickabee
09-07-2012, 06:27 PM
wickabee, are you pro life? i honestly forget. just trying to figure out where you are coming from.

look here and maybe this will tell you why you might as well let them back on the street to rape again

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11991158

1 in 3 stranger rapist have been arrested for other violent crimes


and for non sex offenders it is around 70% repeat offender.

and you think they should have rights?

and as far as the repentance factor, he took away his rights when he decided to do his crime, you are blaming me for something they choose to do and now that they have been caught they some how think they deserve rights and you think they do?

The way I put it is I'm pro-Life but not about to tell anyone what to do. I would love to see a world where abortion is never necessary or wanted, but we don't live in that world. I am against abortion, but I am more against telling people what is right and wrong. Roe v Wade should have settled it for you guys, end of discussion.
Where I'm pro-Choice is in the thought that most of those who would outlaw abortion would outlaw it outright with no exception for rape, incest, medical reasons, etc. I'm not saying that's you, but too many people see it as a black/white, yes/no issue. It isn't.

Now,
I'm only arguing for right to religion and right to be allowed to repent.
I'm also arguing against the "right" to kill. As a Christian, you must think executioners are without sin, or else it would be wrong.
Everything else you think I'm arguing for is a construct of your own mind.

shrewsbury
09-07-2012, 10:04 PM
wickabee, quit ruining it for me, you know i like to think you are saying stuff, makes it easier to argue when i get to make up what you are saying!!!!!!!!!

Wickabee
09-07-2012, 10:09 PM
My bad I'll knock it off.


by reading this post you agree that, in the future, it will mean whatever I say it means then and not what it actually says now

shrewsbury
09-07-2012, 11:10 PM
wickabee, my heads spinning!!!!!!! I must have reread that 30 times!!!!!

one point wickabee
zero points shrews

Wickabee
09-08-2012, 12:15 AM
wickabee, my heads spinning!!!!!!! I must have reread that 30 times!!!!!

one point wickabee
zero points shrews

...and so ends another discussion in which I have a point and you do not.


You keep setting them up, I'll keep knocking them down.