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JustAlex
09-11-2012, 03:20 AM
The GOP would have you believe that most Americans are "traditional" and want to go back to the "Good ol' days".......WRONG!!!


The U.S on Abortion

52% of Americans believe abortion should be LEGAL in all cases!

25% believe it should be LEGAL in certain cases!

Only 20% believe abortion should be fully illegal in all cases (this group is majorly Conservative Republican!)

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wcuh3codqksgnbfd9pdccg.gif




Americans on Gay Marriage:

Do you think same-sex couples should be allowed to get married and be recognized by the law as legal?

YES 50% NO 48%


Now, this may seem like the country is divided, BUT if you look at that same poll question in 1996, this was the result: YES 27% NO 68%

Americans have FINALLY stated to wake up and see just how unjust it is to deny gays equal rights!

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/ecj1obiitkyh469suk-ila.gif


Americans and their support for Legalizing Marijuana:

This says it ALL:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/19/us/politics/fivethirtyeight-1019-firstpot/fivethirtyeight-1019-firstpot-blog480.png


The GOP can try as hard as it can to regress this country to a simple and IGNORANT time, but it will NOT work!

We live in a time where information is spread around like wildfire and people are now more informed than ever about the issues, they can see how wrong it is to deny gays their rights, they can see that the drug war is a JOKE, and they can see that abortion is a choice that should remain legal!

mrveggieman
09-11-2012, 09:04 AM
I agree with some of your points. The church/gov't has no business telling 2 consenting adults that they cannot get married. Also I think adults should have the choice to smoke whatever they want. However if they commit a crime while under the influence the court should have no mercy on them and they should be punished as if they were sober when they committed the crime. Why because no one forced them to smoke or not to smoke. Also as far as abortion it should only be legal in case of rape,incest or if the mother's life is in danger. However since conservatives are against sex ed they should be the ones who finance welfare because the are so pro life, pro child and pro family.

Rockman
09-11-2012, 12:41 PM
Got your stats wrong, look at what you said and look again.

cbuskstwar
09-11-2012, 01:50 PM
Whats the sample size? Who supplied these poll numbers? who was polled?


The GOP would have you believe that most Americans are "traditional" and want to go back to the "Good ol' days".......WRONG!!!


The U.S on Abortion

52% of Americans believe abortion should be LEGAL in all cases!

25% believe it should be LEGAL in certain cases!

Only 20% believe abortion should be fully illegal in all cases (this group is majorly Conservative Republican!)

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wcuh3codqksgnbfd9pdccg.gif




Americans on Gay Marriage:

Do you think same-sex couples should be allowed to get married and be recognized by the law as legal?

YES 50% NO 48%


Now, this may seem like the country is divided, BUT if you look at that same poll question in 1996, this was the result: YES 27% NO 68%

Americans have FINALLY stated to wake up and see just how unjust it is to deny gays equal rights!

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/ecj1obiitkyh469suk-ila.gif


Americans and their support for Legalizing Marijuana:

This says it ALL:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/19/us/politics/fivethirtyeight-1019-firstpot/fivethirtyeight-1019-firstpot-blog480.png


The GOP can try as hard as it can to regress this country to a simple and IGNORANT time, but it will NOT work!

We live in a time where information is spread around like wildfire and people are now more informed than ever about the issues, they can see how wrong it is to deny gays their rights, they can see that the drug war is a JOKE, and they can see that abortion is a choice that should remain legal!

JustAlex
09-11-2012, 02:32 PM
Whats the sample size? Who supplied these poll numbers? who was polled?
Dude it's Gallup!

Can't you see at the bottom of the charts?

Gallup is one of the MOST trusted pollsters around!

If you must have the links here you go:

Abortion: http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

Gay Marriage: http://www.gallup.com/poll/117328/marriage.aspx

Marijuana: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/gallup-poll-is-first-to-find-plurality-support-for-marijuana-legalization/

cbuskstwar
09-11-2012, 03:51 PM
I'm trying to understand how 500 to 800 people represent the entire country.

Wickabee
09-11-2012, 05:15 PM
I'm trying to understand how 500 to 800 people represent the entire country.

I've wondered that as well. Of course, one would have to poll over 300,000,000 people to do it your way, so...

duwal
09-11-2012, 09:37 PM
I'm trying to understand how 500 to 800 people represent the entire country.


as well as all of these polls above could be completely reversed depending on which areas of the U.S. are polled

Wickabee
09-11-2012, 09:42 PM
Funny how these questions never come out with a poll that favours a conservative viewpoint...

JustAlex
09-11-2012, 10:25 PM
I'm trying to understand how 500 to 800 people represent the entire country.
Do you understand what a "Sample Size" is?

It's the way MOST polls are done, and they are usually pretty accurate.

But I bet if these polls were in YOUR favor you wouldn't question it, right?


as well as all of these polls above could be completely reversed depending on which areas of the U.S. are polled
That's why they DON'T poll people from the same area.

They ask these questions to people from across the country.

Again, that is how ALL polls are done.


BTW, Why do people accept the Presidential polls and not this poll?

The criteria is exactly the same, they ask 500-1000 people (a sample size) from across the country and come up with the results!


Funny how these questions never come out with a poll that favours a conservative viewpoint...
If you look at the past the overwhelming majority of Americans were AGAINST gay marriage and legalizing marijuana.

That's what PROGRESS is.....CHANGE, ADVANCEMENT!

A progressive society will ALWAYS be preferable to a "Traditional" society!

If we were a "traditional" society then blacks would still be treated like garbage, women would be submissive to all men, and one can only imagine how the political spectrum would look like (Very scary) like the ones from theocratic nations.


The GOP and Conservatives alike live in a fantasy world, where everyday life is like one of those 50s black and white family shows where they show the perfect white christian family getting along with all the other perfect white christian families in their perfect white suburban neighborhood.

Wickabee
09-11-2012, 10:35 PM
The GOP and Conservatives alike live in a fantasy world, where everyday life is like one of those 50s black and white family shows where they show the perfect white christian family getting along with all the other perfect white christian families in their perfect white suburban neighborhood.

And they don't question other conservatives.

tutall
09-11-2012, 11:15 PM
The GOP would have you believe that most Americans are "traditional" and want to go back to the "Good ol' days".......WRONG!!!


The U.S on Abortion

52% of Americans believe abortion should be LEGAL in all cases!

25% believe it should be LEGAL in certain cases!

Only 20% believe abortion should be fully illegal in all cases (this group is majorly Conservative Republican!)

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wcuh3codqksgnbfd9pdccg.gif



Funny because what I see with that poll is Americans becoming less interested in abortion being legal... Illegal in all circumstances has risen 7 points since 93 while legal in all cases has fallen 9percent and legal in some situation has risen only 4 percent...






Americans on Gay Marriage:

Do you think same-sex couples should be allowed to get married and be recognized by the law as legal?

YES 50% NO 48%


Now, this may seem like the country is divided, BUT if you look at that same poll question in 1996, this was the result: YES 27% NO 68%

Americans have FINALLY stated to wake up and see just how unjust it is to deny gays equal rights!

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/ecj1obiitkyh469suk-ila.gif


I really have no problem with gays getting the same rights... I believe marriage is a religious thing however and if a church does not want to marry a gay couple inside I feel they deserve to be able to have the right to refuse gay marriage in their place.



Americans and their support for Legalizing Marijuana:

This says it ALL:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/19/us/politics/fivethirtyeight-1019-firstpot/fivethirtyeight-1019-firstpot-blog480.png


The GOP can try as hard as it can to regress this country to a simple and IGNORANT time, but it will NOT work!

We live in a time where information is spread around like wildfire and people are now more informed than ever about the issues, they can see how wrong it is to deny gays their rights, they can see that the drug war is a JOKE, and they can see that abortion is a choice that should remain legal!

The fact that we lock people up for marijuana but let people go free for drunk driving is beyond insane to me. What someone does in their house as long as they are not hurting anyone else or their kids is none of my business... I wish would would legalize it and tax the crap out of it but that is another thread we can start.

Wickabee
09-11-2012, 11:24 PM
The fact that we lock people up for marijuana but let people go free for drunk driving is beyond insane to me. What someone does in their house as long as they are not hurting anyone else or their kids is none of my business... I wish would would legalize it and tax the crap out of it but that is another thread we can start.
It was started awhile back:
http://www.sportscardforum.com/threads/1725518-marijuana-legalization-are-your-for-or-against-it

Rockman
09-12-2012, 03:26 AM
Ok, don't understand how this still doesn't get noticed. Only 25% say it should be legal in all circumstances, not 52%. Huge Huge difference when talking about Abortion.



The U.S on Abortion

52% of Americans believe abortion should be LEGAL in all cases!

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wcuh3codqksgnbfd9pdccg.gif

JustAlex
09-12-2012, 03:49 AM
Ok, don't understand how this still doesn't get noticed. Only 25% say it should be legal in all circumstances, not 52%. Huge Huge difference when talking about Abortion.
You're right I got those two mixed up.

But the point is that 77% of the nation still wants abortion to be legal.

And I'm definitely ok with that.

If you look at the GOP Platform, they want to reverse Roe vs Wade and make abortion illegal under ALL circumstances.

And only 20% of the nation feels that way.

So in actuality, almost 80% of the nation has a "Pro-Choice" mentality.

They believe to a certain extent that abortion is necessary.

Only 20% are Honestly "Pro-Life".

The fact of the matter is that the GOP has fought tooth and nail against abortion and yet they can only gat support from 2 out of 10 Americans.

That's a terrible record, and the more they fight it the more they allienate the other 80% that wants abortion to remain legal.

One only has to look at the disaster that is Mexico to see what banning abortions would do.

Furthermore, for all you people that constantly complain about welfare, you should know that a big percentage of abortions come from low income families.

What do you think will happen if we ban it????

More kids going to poor families or more kids up for adoption.

And LOL @ the people that say that government can't do anything right but you're completely in favor of putting hundreds of thousands of babies on the "system".

Seriously, when are conservatives going to grow up and realize they can't have their cake and eat it too!!!