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pghin08
09-13-2012, 01:36 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81132.html

I often don't agree with Scarborough, but he usually makes some great points, as he does in this article. He's been on TV and in media for quite some time now, and I always marvel at his ability to rise above the vitriolic nature of the business that he's in.

mrveggieman
09-13-2012, 01:48 PM
I just read the article. The guy has some good points. I am so happy that Romney's campaign is going down the toilet. He is a complete idiot and if he somehow steals the election he will go down in history as one of the worst presidents of all time even worse than everyone's good ole buddy GWB.

pghin08
09-13-2012, 01:49 PM
I just read the article. The guy has some good points. I am so happy that Romney's campaign is going down the toilet. He is a complete idiot and if he somehow steals the election he will go down in history as one of the worst presidents of all time even worse than everyone's good ole buddy GWB.

How could you just assume that though? We just don't know. Frankly, I think it's too early to judge Obama's presidency, and furthermore, it's too early to even judge GWB's presidency. We're only now getting in a position to judge Clinton's.

habsheaven
09-13-2012, 01:50 PM
Good article.

mrveggieman
09-13-2012, 01:55 PM
How could you just assume that though? We just don't know. Frankly, I think it's too early to judge Obama's presidency, and furthermore, it's too early to even judge GWB's presidency. We're only now getting in a position to judge Clinton's.

I pray to God that we don't get any worse than GWB. Two wasteful wars, sending our economy to hell, destroying the housing market, etc. Yes it is a possiblity that Romney may turn things around. It is also a possiblity that you or I could also turn things around. I will take my chances with President Obama over Romney who dosen't seem to have any purpose except for lining his own pockets.

pghin08
09-13-2012, 01:59 PM
I pray to God that we don't get any worse than GWB. Two wasteful wars, sending our economy to hell, destroying the housing market, etc. Yes it is a possiblity that Romney may turn things around. It is also a possiblity that you or I could also turn things around. I will take my chances with President Obama over Romney who dosen't seem to have any purpose except for lining his own pockets.

I agree that Iraq was total crap, but the war in Afghanistan was justifiable at the time. As per sending our economy down the tubes, he's just not powerful enough to do that by himself. I think his tax cuts were bad, but it's not like they were the sole reason for the collapse. And the housing market started to crumble long before his presidency, he just happened to be there when it went over the cliff.

ensbergcollector
09-13-2012, 02:08 PM
I agree that Iraq was total crap, but the war in Afghanistan was justifiable at the time. As per sending our economy down the tubes, he's just not powerful enough to do that by himself. I think his tax cuts were bad, but it's not like they were the sole reason for the collapse. And the housing market started to crumble long before his presidency, he just happened to be there when it went over the cliff.

pghin - always appreciate you ability to deal in fact regardless of party.

as for the thread, I am not a big fan of romney. just a matter of degree i assume. I don't think he or obama will do a good job, just think he might do a slightly better one.

pghin08
09-13-2012, 02:17 PM
pghin - always appreciate you ability to deal in fact regardless of party.

as for the thread, I am not a big fan of romney. just a matter of degree i assume. I don't think he or obama will do a good job, just think he might do a slightly better one.

Thanks. I'm going to start a new party called the Factocrats. I think it could catch on.

AUTaxMan
09-13-2012, 02:43 PM
Good article.

He's one of the few remaining who calls it down the line. I try to watch his morning show when I have time.

Wickabee
09-13-2012, 02:50 PM
Based solely on what I've seen, I do believe if Romney is elected he will do absolutely nothing. No0thing good, nothing bad, just nothing.

Anything that happens in a Romney White House will be the doing of Ryan, not Romney. That's what scares me about the Republican party. They put up the candidate who they think will get elected as President, then put their actual top choice in the VP position and, when the people vote them in, their President isn't their President at all, the VP is.

Don't believe me? Look at Bush/Cheney.

pghin08
09-13-2012, 02:55 PM
He's one of the few remaining who calls it down the line. I try to watch his morning show when I have time.

I don't get to as much as I'd like to. Like I said, I usually disagree with him, but he doesn't demonize people who don't agree with him like a Beck/Maher/Hannity/Limbaugh, etc.

AUTaxMan
09-13-2012, 02:57 PM
I don't get to as much as I'd like to. Like I said, I usually disagree with him, but he doesn't demonize people who don't agree with him like a Beck/Maher/Hannity/Limbaugh, etc.

Laura Ingraham, who is mentioned in that article, is not afraid to criticize Romney. Beck isn't either, by the way. I don't think I've ever heard Hannity criticize him. Did you hear that Beck is on DISH now?

pghin08
09-13-2012, 04:47 PM
Laura Ingraham, who is mentioned in that article, is not afraid to criticize Romney. Beck isn't either, by the way. I don't think I've ever heard Hannity criticize him. Did you hear that Beck is on DISH now?

I didn't hear that, I should keep up on my Blaze reading better! :nono:

drtom2005
09-14-2012, 12:30 AM
Romney could make things much worse with one issue, Iran(Middle East). We need to get out the region. His campaign stated that they were going to "deal" with Iran.

But as usual, politicians do not look at history. All revolutions in the past started when the middle class approached 25%. This includes the American, French, fall of the USSR, etc. The way to win the war of ideology is to open markets and let the people rise up. We need to wait out China and Iran.