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cbuskstwar
09-19-2012, 04:03 PM
What does it mean when the president states "I am for re-distribution"?

habsheaven
09-19-2012, 04:05 PM
It means that he is FOR the basic tax structure that you have in the country now.

pghin08
09-19-2012, 04:10 PM
It depends on your definition of redistribution, I guess. Are middle class tax cuts technically redistribution? I think so. For that matter, if you cut taxes on the upper class, that's also a redistribution of wealth, it's just a redistribution upward.

habsheaven
09-19-2012, 04:19 PM
I believe the "re-distribution" comment is from a video in which Obama is speaking about the education system in Illinois.

shrewsbury
09-19-2012, 04:24 PM
robbing the rich to give to the poor???

pwaldo
09-19-2012, 04:50 PM
What does it mean when the president states "I am for re-distribution"?

Probably would be best to ask the President this question since nobody here knows him or knows what he thinks

AUTaxMan
09-19-2012, 04:57 PM
It depends on your definition of redistribution, I guess. Are middle class tax cuts technically redistribution? I think so. For that matter, if you cut taxes on the upper class, that's also a redistribution of wealth, it's just a redistribution upward.

Redistribution only occurs when government benefits and services are provided to one group of people at the sole expense of another. A tax cut for the "rich" is only upwards redistribution if it corresponds with an additional financial burden on the non-"rich."

mrveggieman
09-19-2012, 05:00 PM
robbing the rich to give to the poor???


It's sure as hell better of romney's plan of robbing from the poor and giving to the rich.

Wickabee
09-19-2012, 06:14 PM
Redistribution only occurs when government benefits and services are provided to one group of people at the sole expense of another. A tax cut for the "rich" is only upwards redistribution if it corresponds with an additional financial burden on the non-"rich."

Very true. Otherwise it's just "distribution".

AUTaxMan
09-19-2012, 06:46 PM
What does it mean when the president states "I am for re-distribution"?

That means taking money and resources from A and giving them to B at no cost to B. A, of course, being those who the government deems can afford to part with the property, and B being those who the government deems don't have enough property.

ALADOG
09-22-2012, 12:16 AM
What does it mean when the president states "I am for re-distribution"?

It means socialism and communism

Wickabee
09-22-2012, 12:38 AM
It means socialism and communism

I'm sure it doesn't. At the very least it would have to mean "I am etc etc" but I don't even think that's accurate. Those are ideologies, he's just a dude.

Theodor Madison
09-22-2012, 12:59 AM
What if I say I am off far worse than you all, and say you need to give some form your hard earnings.

shrewsbury
09-22-2012, 01:06 AM
what else could redistribution mean except take from the haves and give it to the have nots?

so someone like me is going to pay 3% more for a total of 28% in 2013 but 47% of the pay nothing and that is just federal. after all the taxes i pay then all the taxes i pay on everything i buy, they want more from me.
of those other 47% there has to be a decent percentage that could be paying taxes. even if just 10% of those were fraudulent and another 10% were getting benefits they shouldn't be, and another 20% could be working, we are at about 20% of the population!
drop the business tax to 20% to get companies to come back here and create jobs. and get rid of those crazy penalties and let the coal mines open again. then we could increase revenue without raising my taxes!
we can fight about abortions, gay marriage, polygamy, death sentence, immigration, and other stuff later, lets fix the budget, create some jobs, get some of those that are able to get off entitlements employed, and ring the dollar back up.

you can redistribute all you want but you still have the same amount of incoming and outgoing, we need to increase our incoming, not redistribute. we can't yell time out and start again, we have to move forward from where we are at.

habsheaven
09-22-2012, 10:47 AM
what else could redistribution mean except take from the haves and give it to the have nots?

It could also mean; move resources from one agency/district/department which is over-funded and give them to another that is under-funded.

INTIMADATOR2007
09-22-2012, 10:56 AM
It could also mean; move resources from one rich person which is over-funded and give them to another that is under-funded.
There i fixed it for you ,,lol

habsheaven
09-22-2012, 11:23 AM
There i fixed it for you ,,lol

That's very intelligent. Here, have a cookie.

Wickabee
09-22-2012, 01:49 PM
There i fixed it for youattempted something and failed miserably. I didn't even make a point, valid or otherwise ,,lol
Fixed.

mrveggieman
09-24-2012, 09:34 AM
There i fixed it for you ,,lol


epic fail

shrewsbury
09-24-2012, 11:11 AM
habs, that would be taken from the haves and giving it to the havenots.

AUTaxMan
09-24-2012, 11:13 AM
It could also mean; move resources from one agency/district/department which is over-funded and give them to another that is under-funded.

But that's not what it means.

habsheaven
09-24-2012, 12:26 PM
But that's not what it means.

That may not be the definition you want to use, but I assure you that is a correct usage of the word. Whether you like it or not.

AUTaxMan
09-24-2012, 01:08 PM
That may not be the definition you want to use, but I assure you that is a correct usage of the word. Whether you like it or not.

Of course it is, but that is now how it was being used in the clip that is the subject of this debate.

habsheaven
09-24-2012, 01:16 PM
Of course it is, but that is now how it was being used in the clip that is the subject of this debate.

I just listened to the entire audio of his talk. He doesn't mention re-distribution until approx the 30 minute mark. And he uses the word EXACTLY in the context in which I defined it. You might want to take a listen to it yourself.

Wickabee
09-24-2012, 02:24 PM
I just listened to the entire audio of his talk. He doesn't mention re-distribution until approx the 30 minute mark. And he uses the word EXACTLY in the context in which I defined it. You might want to take a listen to it yourself.

It's different if you've made up your mind before you listen it...

AUTaxMan
09-24-2012, 02:39 PM
I just listened to the entire audio of his talk. He doesn't mention re-distribution until approx the 30 minute mark. And he uses the word EXACTLY in the context in which I defined it. You might want to take a listen to it yourself.

I have listened to it, and i completely disagree with your analysis.

Wickabee
09-24-2012, 02:57 PM
I have listened to it, and i completely disagree with your analysis.

See what I mean, Habs?

habsheaven
09-24-2012, 03:40 PM
See what I mean, Habs?

LOL, Yeah, I know. I should know better than to expect so much out of them.