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boba
10-11-2012, 10:46 PM
Is anyone else watching this? Can't stand either of these, but Biden face is making this hard to watch. Also, I wish the moderator would stop editorializing.

Leroy22001
10-11-2012, 10:50 PM
Biden has big teeth too...

mugatu471
10-11-2012, 10:51 PM
Based soley on how thier acting and not what they're saying, Biden is annoying the crap out of me. Stop smiling, especially during very solmen issues like the embassey terrorist attacks.

Wickabee
10-11-2012, 10:55 PM
Bidden is the man with the teeth. If Ryan could, he'd be shirtless through the whole thing.

boba
10-11-2012, 10:56 PM
The moderator needs to shut up haha, it's not your place to argue with one of the debaters, and agree with one of them. She is even laughing with Biden, come on.

boba
10-11-2012, 11:00 PM
:pound:Anyone else notice biden flip off ryan just now?

duane1969
10-11-2012, 11:04 PM
She is going to be that way because she is in the tank with the Democrats. Didn't you hear about that?

As for Biden, no it isn't laughing gas...it is obliviousness to reality. I am not as irritated by his giggling fits as I am by his repeated interupting. Apparently his comprehension for the concept of not talking when others are talking was removed while he was sequestered.

boba
10-11-2012, 11:13 PM
Biden isn't smiling anymore...

Wickabee
10-11-2012, 11:16 PM
Yes Duane, eeeeeeveryone is in bed with the Democrats.

Seriously though, who watches a VP debate? It's like interviewing the assistant janitor.

boba
10-11-2012, 11:18 PM
Yes Duane, eeeeeeveryone is in bed with the Democrats.

Seriously though, who watches a VP debate? It's like interviewing the assistant janitor.

This guy, I like to hear more about their plans and see who lies more.

duane1969
10-11-2012, 11:23 PM
Yes Duane, eeeeeeveryone is in bed with the Democrats.

Seriously though, who watches a VP debate? It's like interviewing the assistant janitor.

I bet that if the moderator was friends with Romney and Romney had attended her wedding you would see things quite differently.

However, in spite of whatever she may do to sway things in Biden's favor, he is just too blooming ignorant to capitalize on it.

boba
10-11-2012, 11:24 PM
So Biden believes abortion is murder, but he's ok with it, WOW

brooaar
10-11-2012, 11:30 PM
If you closed your eye's while biden was talking about war, you'd swear it was jack van impe hyping his latest book about the end. since the abortion talk, he's really mellowed out.

duane1969
10-11-2012, 11:34 PM
So Biden believes abortion is murder, but he's ok with it, WOW

Hmmm....I think that fits into the other thread about saying one thing and doing something else....

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jaybird_1981
10-11-2012, 11:38 PM
Biden came off as a grade A you know what tonight. The condescending laughing and smiling will not go over well.

Wickabee
10-11-2012, 11:42 PM
I bet that if the moderator was friends with Romney and Romney had attended her wedding you would see things quite differently.

However, in spite of whatever she may do to sway things in Biden's favor, he is just too blooming ignorant to capitalize on it.
I can honestly say I wouldn't give a crap. I'm not a Democrat, I just think they're slightly less insane.

You want to Falk about ignorance, look at your assumptions.

boba
10-11-2012, 11:43 PM
And for the record, Biden had 1 minute more of speaking time then Ryan.

Wickabee
10-11-2012, 11:46 PM
And for the record, Biden had 1 minute more of speaking time then Ryan.

Doss that really matter, though?

boba
10-11-2012, 11:48 PM
Doss that really matter, though?

It does because the whole time he was complaining about time and cutting off Ryan about time.

jaybird_1981
10-11-2012, 11:50 PM
Doss that really matter, though?

It isn't really the minute that is important but his constantly cutting off Ryan. When I see someone constantly interrupting and trying to talk over someone in a debate it makes me think they are insecure in their views.

JustAlex
10-11-2012, 11:50 PM
Thank "God" I didn't watch this....waste of time no doubt.

LOL @ the GOP supporters though, they're so desperate for anything to go badly for Obama...like a dog begging for a bone.

Goodness, I can't wait for this to be over, I'm sick and tired of it!

Wickabee
10-12-2012, 12:13 AM
I still can't believe anyone watched it. The thing I don't understand is why Bidden, the VP candidate is debating Ryan, the Presidential candidate...the real Presidential candidate I mean, not the Mormon dude Republicans say is their candidate.

*censored*
10-12-2012, 12:43 AM
Fox spent a good 30 minutes on Biden's smirks and limited time on actual content, and then called it a draw. To me that indicates a Biden victory.

As though the debates actually mean anything.

habsheaven
10-12-2012, 09:18 AM
Biden clearly won that debate. Gotta laugh at the GOP supporters. First, criticizing Obama for not challenging Romney; now they criticize Biden for challenging Ryan too much. Biden shot Ryan down constantly. He proved Romney and Ryan are all talk about foreign policy and nothing more. He proved Ryan was a hypocrite concerning the stimulus. He proved that Romney and Ryan are a serious threat to the abortion rights issue. He proved the Ryan/Romney medicare plan is disastrous.

If the best criticism of Biden is his smile and condescending attitude, I can live with that.

pghin08
10-12-2012, 09:37 AM
I agree that Biden won the debate, but I just wanted to reach through my TV and choke him. Biden is as smug as it gets. He's smart, no doubt. But so is Paul Ryan, and I give Ryan props for not just punching Biden in the face.

By the way, before you ask, I am allowed to be a Democrat and not like Joe Biden.

shrewsbury
10-12-2012, 09:42 AM
Watched it and find it hard to say either won anything, much less Biden.

but it was obvious they are holding onto their plan to make it look like romney and ryan are liars, that is why the smiling and laughing took place. he was trying to undermine ryan and make it appear he was an idiot, when in reality it shows biden has no skills as a debater or talker.

this was my last hope to figure out who i will vote for, and it didn't help one bit. it was the worst debate ever, i have seen better highschool debates.

habsheaven
10-12-2012, 10:23 AM
Watched it and find it hard to say either won anything, much less Biden.

but it was obvious they are holding onto their plan to make it look like romney and ryan are liars, that is why the smiling and laughing took place. he was trying to undermine ryan and make it appear he was an idiot, when in reality it shows biden has no skills as a debater or talker.

this was my last hope to figure out who i will vote for, and it didn't help one bit. it was the worst debate ever, i have seen better highschool debates.

Really? No skills. That is too funny. Biden is one of the best debater around. Even the GOP admits to that. You are trying way too hard to discredit him. I guess that shows how you really feel about what happened last night. lol

shrewsbury
10-12-2012, 11:37 AM
really? so you watched it?

did you see the exchange about tax cuts? if i had to declare a winner, this exchange would prove ryan won.

if so, how can you say biden knows how to debate? and who cares what the GOP says? you, when it is conveinent?

pghin08
10-12-2012, 11:42 AM
Really? No skills. That is too funny. Biden is one of the best debater around. Even the GOP admits to that. You are trying way too hard to discredit him. I guess that shows how you really feel about what happened last night. lol

Biden is a good debater, but I guarantee he turned people off with his behavior last night.

Wickabee
10-12-2012, 12:09 PM
One side to focussed on who smiled less annoyingly says Biden lost.
The other side focused on issues says he won.

Hmmmmm

habsheaven
10-12-2012, 12:44 PM
really? so you watched it?

did you see the exchange about tax cuts? if i had to declare a winner, this exchange would prove ryan won.

if so, how can you say biden knows how to debate? and who cares what the GOP says? you, when it is conveinent?

Yes, I watched (or at least listened to) the whole debate, tax cuts included. Did YOU see the debate on Iraq, the stimulus, abortion, the 47%, etc? Which of those portions did he win? Better yet, which of those did he not look like a fool?

And I don't care what the GOP has to say. That is why i said "even" the GOP.

Colts15
10-12-2012, 11:22 PM
I don't think he knew where he was...

shrewsbury
10-13-2012, 11:33 AM
smirking, laughing, and interupting, is not how to debate, and yes i watched it all, biden did not win anything, he was shown to be a liar right there on TV, busted and did not even have the guts to admit he was wrong, instead he deployed the old tactic, change the subject.

biden sucks at debating, but ryan isn't any better, but alleast he had facts to back up what he said, while biden tried to prove him wrong, was called on it, and all he did was change the subject.

if not, explain this


RYAN: He is wrong about that. They’re…

BIDEN: How’s that?

RYAN: You can — you can cut tax rates by 20 percent and still preserve these important preferences for middle-class taxpayers…

BIDEN: Not mathematically possible.

RYAN: It is mathematically possible. It’s been done before. It’s precisely what we’re proposing.

BIDEN: It has never been done before.

RYAN: It’s been done a couple of times, actually.

BIDEN: It has never been done before.

RYAN: Jack Kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. Ronald Reagan…

BIDEN: Oh, now you’re Jack Kennedy?

Wickabee
10-13-2012, 12:50 PM
I see Ryan conituing to refuse to explain how he plans on making things revenue neutral. He may have facts right there, but there's no way he can cut all the taxes he wants to and keep everything else the same.
So he's going to spend the same amount, but take in less. Yet he refuses to say how that's possible. He says it's been done before, but what is "it".

shrewsbury
10-13-2012, 02:55 PM
you can cut tax rates by 20 percent and still preserve these important preferences for middle-class taxpayers…

the same thing Reagan and Jack Kennedy did, if you don't know what they did, look it. he would not have had time to explain in detail, neither of them did.

the point i am making, biden said it was not possible nor ever done, he was proven wrong, it has been done so it is possible.

Wickabee
10-13-2012, 03:17 PM
So Ryan's platform is "look it up"?

To me it looks like he's not saying anything so when he does cut everything, and he will, he can say, "I never said I wouldn't"

habsheaven
10-13-2012, 04:19 PM
the same thing Reagan and Jack Kennedy did, if you don't know what they did, look it. he would not have had time to explain in detail, neither of them did.

the point i am making, biden said it was not possible nor ever done, he was proven wrong, it has been done so it is possible.

The cuts Reagan and Kennedy made were made at a time when the rates were astronomical. Comparing it to now, when the rates are not even half as high as then is disingenuous at best. That is why Biden called him on it. The math will not work. Everyone knows it, Romney & Ryan included. That is why they won't reveal details, because they can't.

INTIMADATOR2007
10-13-2012, 04:37 PM
Cutting Taxes = More Jobs = more tax payers that's how they do it !

habsheaven
10-13-2012, 04:39 PM
Cutting Taxes = More Jobs = more tax payers that's how they do it !

Kind of like the Bush tax cuts that have been going on for how long now? You keep drinking that kool-aid.

INTIMADATOR2007
10-13-2012, 04:46 PM
Democrats should be embarrassed by the way Biden acted during the debate. But they are not and that is because he showed what the democrats are about , Rude , Disrespectful, Annoying ,Distracting ,and Dishonest everything the democrats support , but instead he embarrassed himself and the party . The fact checkers have already slammed his lies he told but the left media doesn't want the kool aide drinkers to know that , so you guys go ahead and think Joey did you guys good . Truth is he is helping to add to the shalacking that will be the presidential race . This defeat of Obama is going to bigger than I even think !

Wickabee
10-13-2012, 04:49 PM
Yes TIM, and Republicans aren't...

INTIMADATOR2007
10-13-2012, 04:49 PM
Kind of like the Bush tax cuts that have been going on for how long now? You keep drinking that kool-aid.
I've got another way that will grow the economy even better than what the "bush tax cuts" did. Sending Obama back to Chicago will have far more effect than anything Romney or Ryan can do . The economy will Take off !

R. E. Lee
10-13-2012, 04:51 PM
Yes, Ryan was simply presenting himself as well rounded, gentlemenly, and very knowledgeable which made Biden look like a clown. No offense to Biden supporters

Wickabee
10-13-2012, 04:57 PM
Yes, Ryan was simply presenting himself as well rounded, gentlemenly, and very knowledgeable which made Biden look like a clown. No offense to Biden supporters

What I find funny is that not a single Republican is talking about issues (just as Ryan wants it) and instead focus on how much Bidden smiled and that he interrupted when he smelled crap coming from Ryan. With all the "Obama can't run on the issues" talk, I'm still waiting for Romney or Ryan bring some up. All the do is deflect and ignore. Neither has told anyone a single thing, but you're supposed to hand them the keys without even knowing what their plan is because "it would take too long to explain". I guess the White House isn't worth their time.

But no, you go ahead and vote based on who smiled too much. Everyone knows that's how you pick a leader.

INTIMADATOR2007
10-13-2012, 04:58 PM
Thank "God" I didn't watch this....waste of time no doubt.

LOL @ the GOP supporters though, they're so desperate for anything to go badly for Obama...like a dog begging for a bone.

Goodness, I can't wait for this to be over, I'm sick and tired of it!
What has Obama done right during this run up to the election ?

INTIMADATOR2007
10-13-2012, 05:00 PM
What I find funny is that not a single Republican is talking about issues (just as Ryan wants it) and instead focus on how much Bidden smiled and that he interrupted when he smelled crap coming from Ryan. With all the "Obama can't run on the issues" talk, I'm still waiting for Romney or Ryan bring some up. All the do is deflect and ignore. Neither has told anyone a single thing, but you're supposed to hand them the keys without even knowing what their plan is because "it would take too long to explain". I guess the White House isn't worth their time.

But no, you go ahead and vote based on who smiled too much. Everyone knows that's how you pick a leader.
You have really got to get off those sites you read . All the republicans are doing is talking about substance and ideas , ARE YOU DEAF ? or is it those places you go for info . You just accused the republicans of doing the EXACT same thing the democrats are doing , are you sure you know who the democrats are and who the republicans are ?

Wickabee
10-13-2012, 05:06 PM
I'm not a Democrat and I don't frequent any specific sites like you do. Ryan has said he will cut taxes, keep the same programs and somehow make money doing it. When asked how, he doesn't answer.

I know who the groups are, please don't call me a moron. I see Ryan detect every issue and you somehow think he'd be great in the role because the other guy smiled too much.

People who vote based on smiles in a debate are far stupider than anyone who votes on race. Good job, Samuel.

INTIMADATOR2007
10-13-2012, 05:14 PM
I'm not a Democrat and I don't frequent any specific sites like you do. Ryan has said he will cut taxes, keep the same programs and somehow make money doing it. When asked how, he doesn't answer.

I know who the groups are, please don't call me a moron. I see Ryan detect every issue and you somehow think he'd be great in the role because the other guy smiled too much.

People who vote based on smiles in a debate are far stupider than anyone who votes on race. Good job, Samuel.

Ryan's not keeping the same programs , remember he's gonna kill old lady's and babies and black people too . Of course this is what the democrats and liberals would want you to believe . If you can't find there plan online which I've posted , then you do not want to see it , because it's there .

And i didn't call you a moron but if you can't look up the Romney Ryan plan well then your just not to smart.

Wickabee
10-13-2012, 06:06 PM
Don't throw democrat rhetoric at me and think you're clever. I'm not a democrat and you're not clever, not by a long shot. Ryan says no one will lose anything, taxes will be cut met ilessly and somehow it will pay of the debt. Tell me, I'd the same amount is going out and less is coming in what money, exactly, will be left to pay down the debt?

Right the several million from PBS is going to pay the debt. How many trillions is that debt again?

He's been given more chances to explain how it will work and has only either said "it will take too long to explain" or "other guys did it". He has no plan, or rather, no plan he wants you to know about.
But no, you go ahead and pretend he's telling the truth. It'll be that much funnier from here when he widens the gap between rich and poor and eliminates the middle class for the sake of tax cuts that can't be paid for.

For all the facts and reasoning conservatives demand from the democrats, you guys sure don't hold your own party accountable for any of it.

AUTaxMan
10-13-2012, 06:46 PM
I agree that Biden won the debate, but I just wanted to reach through my TV and choke him. Biden is as smug as it gets. He's smart, no doubt. But so is Paul Ryan, and I give Ryan props for not just punching Biden in the face.

By the way, before you ask, I am allowed to be a Democrat and not like Joe Biden.

I pretty much agree with all of this. I think Biden won, but not by a whole lot. The biggest thing I took away from it was just how downright disrespectful of Ryan he was during the debate.

Theodor Madison
10-13-2012, 11:55 PM
He gives the office of vice president a bad name. His demeanor was horrible. He may seam like he won for all the attention his attitude received, but Ryan was more professional for the office one or the other will hold.

R. E. Lee
10-15-2012, 01:51 AM
What I find funny is that not a single Republican is talking about issues (just as Ryan wants it) and instead focus on how much Bidden smiled and that he interrupted when he smelled crap coming from Ryan. With all the "Obama can't run on the issues" talk, I'm still waiting for Romney or Ryan bring some up. All the do is deflect and ignore. Neither has told anyone a single thing, but you're supposed to hand them the keys without even knowing what their plan is because "it would take too long to explain". I guess the White House isn't worth their time.

But no, you go ahead and vote based on who smiled too much. Everyone knows that's how you pick a leader.
No! no get outta here with that crap. I was simply stating a fact.
I hate Obama Care, Obama is socialist, Obama doesnt deserve another term based on his plans and the statistics that go with his plans, The economy hasnt gotten better or worse in his 4 YEAR presidential term, he isnt had one solid new plan to counter his original plan which obviously did not have effect. I do believe his laughing was a part of the plan and that Obamas suppoters believed Obama was not countering to some of the things he was saying about his plans. Obama is also way too in between in his support in Afghanistan. At first he claims he is going to pull out all the troops out of Afghanistan, he ends up only pulling out some and leaving about three quarters of the troops there. He claims killing Osama Bin Laden was a big step into defeating Al Qaeda but by the time they killed him he was just a figure. Biden claimed Afghans are doing more fighting when the factrs are that 1/3 of the Afghans trained through the US are future taliban and Al Qaeda members. What the Obama administration needs to remember the attrocitries and the real hateful suicidal enimies Al Qaeda really is. And becase of Obama we are letting up on them for no reason. Obama has not shown that his performance as president will earn him another term, no president in history has ever been re elected with worse recovery numbers.

Trueduckfan
10-15-2012, 01:55 AM
Based soley on how thier acting and not what they're saying, Biden is annoying the crap out of me. Stop smiling, especially during very solmen issues like the embassey terrorist attacks.

Absolutely. He should be showing the highest class sitting in his position as VP of the United States no matter how much he disagrees with the man across from him. It just shows how much of a joke the current administration is.
Its just a big paid vacation with tons of perks for these Chicago thugs in office right now.

Wickabee
10-15-2012, 02:32 AM
No! no get outta here with that crap. I was simply stating a fact.
I hate Obama Care, Obama is socialist, Obama doesnt deserve another term based on his plans and the statistics that go with his plans, The economy hasnt gotten better or worse in his 4 YEAR presidential term, he isnt had one solid new plan to counter his original plan which obviously did not have effect. I do believe his laughing was a part of the plan and that Obamas suppoters believed Obama was not countering to some of the things he was saying about his plans. Obama is also way too in between in his support in Afghanistan. At first he claims he is going to pull out all the troops out of Afghanistan, he ends up only pulling out some and leaving about three quarters of the troops there. He claims killing Osama Bin Laden was a big step into defeating Al Qaeda but by the time they killed him he was just a figure. Biden claimed Afghans are doing more fighting when the factrs are that 1/3 of the Afghans trained through the US are future taliban and Al Qaeda members. What the Obama administration needs to remember the attrocitries and the real hateful suicidal enimies Al Qaeda really is. And becase of Obama we are letting up on them for no reason. Obama has not shown that his performance as president will earn him another term, no president in history has ever been re elected with worse recovery numbers.

Fair enough. Doesn't change the fact the Republicans are focusing on ridiculous crap after promising an election about the issues. All I hear is Obama can't run on the issues, yet here we are talking about Biden's teeth.

pghin08
10-15-2012, 09:48 AM
No! no get outta here with that crap. I was simply stating a fact.
I hate Obama Care, Obama is socialist, Obama doesnt deserve another term based on his plans and the statistics that go with his plans, The economy hasnt gotten better or worse in his 4 YEAR presidential term, he isnt had one solid new plan to counter his original plan which obviously did not have effect. I do believe his laughing was a part of the plan and that Obamas suppoters believed Obama was not countering to some of the things he was saying about his plans. Obama is also way too in between in his support in Afghanistan. At first he claims he is going to pull out all the troops out of Afghanistan, he ends up only pulling out some and leaving about three quarters of the troops there. He claims killing Osama Bin Laden was a big step into defeating Al Qaeda but by the time they killed him he was just a figure. Biden claimed Afghans are doing more fighting when the factrs are that 1/3 of the Afghans trained through the US are future taliban and Al Qaeda members. What the Obama administration needs to remember the attrocitries and the real hateful suicidal enimies Al Qaeda really is. And becase of Obama we are letting up on them for no reason. Obama has not shown that his performance as president will earn him another term, no president in history has ever been re elected with worse recovery numbers.

You can claim that Obama hasn't done enough to help our economic issues, and it's a fair criticism. This, however, is lunacy. He's been tougher on al-Qaeda than GWB or Clinton ever were. It goes well beyond Osama bin Laden.

There are lots of things one could point to when claiming that Obama doesn't deserve to be re-elected, but that's not one of them.

MadMan1978
10-15-2012, 11:05 AM
Democrats should be embarrassed by the way Biden acted during the debate. But they are not and that is because he showed what the democrats are about , Rude , Disrespectful, Annoying ,Distracting ,and Dishonest everything the democrats support , but instead he embarrassed himself and the party . The fact checkers have already slammed his lies he told but the left media doesn't want the kool aide drinkers to know that , so you guys go ahead and think Joey did you guys good . Truth is he is helping to add to the shalacking that will be the presidential race . This defeat of Obama is going to bigger than I even think !

Seems like to me he acted just like Reagan did in the 1980 debates

-There you go again....

INTIMADATOR2007
10-15-2012, 07:04 PM
Seems like to me he acted just like Reagan did in the 1980 debates

-There you go again....
Mmmm, Lets see 1980 I was 10 years old , And didn't even know what a politician was .

Wickabee
10-15-2012, 07:13 PM
Really? When I was 10 I had to write a report on the Canadian Federal election. Got a C+!

Colts15
10-15-2012, 08:00 PM
I'm surprised how many like this obummer guy....
ever notice he's added 5 trillion I the debt in 4 years, while all the rest ahead of him have done the same COMBINED?

R. E. Lee
10-15-2012, 08:30 PM
Really? When I was 10 I had to write a report on the Canadian Federal election. Got a C+!
Lol

MadMan1978
10-16-2012, 12:00 AM
And Ryan lied
Reagan raised taxes on the middle class in his 2 terms...
So it has never been done and wont be done...

Wickabee
10-16-2012, 01:08 AM
Yeah but Biden was kinda rude and smiled a lot, so he's obviously concentrated evil while PaulRyan's deception is somehow endearing...