View Full Version : Should Baseball ditch the DH?


pwaldo
04-11-2003, 06:47 PM
It was introduced to increase offense at a time when it was needed.

Do you think that they should keep it or get rid of it?

I don't like how they have it now.

Either the National League should have a DH or both leagues should not get it because it doesn't make much sense having an extra hitter in one league and not the other.

Your opinions on this.

jdfan123
04-11-2003, 07:21 PM
get rid of it ruins the game and its stagedy

Molina00
04-11-2003, 08:23 PM
I for one, don't like watching pitchers hit. Unless it is Mike Hampton. If it wasn't for the DH, Ellis Burks wouldn't have hit 30 homers and driven 80 or 90 last year and Edgar Martinez wouldn't be the star he is. I think the DH is a good thing the way it is because NL players who wouldn't get much chance to play otherwise get to play in interleague games and we get to laugh at the AL'ers when they try to hit the ball. Where would Frank Thomas be without the DH?

pwaldo
04-11-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Molina00
I for one, don't like watching pitchers hit. Unless it is Mike Hampton. If it wasn't for the DH, Ellis Burks wouldn't have hit 30 homers and driven 80 or 90 last year and Edgar Martinez wouldn't be the star he is. I think the DH is a good thing the way it is because NL players who wouldn't get much chance to play otherwise get to play in interleague games and we get to laugh at the AL'ers when they try to hit the ball. Where would Frank Thomas be without the DH?

Frank Thomas would be at first base or on another team.

I don't see why people bash him so much.

He was on par with Griffey to both be great HOF players. Now both of them have struggled recently but at least Thomas can stay healthy. Everyone still loves Griffey but why can't Thomas get no love?

gioperation
04-12-2003, 01:13 AM
because he sucks that is why, when he signed that big contract all he has done is been a cry baby, esp when they took him off first he was a liability and konerko is a better fielder, where else is he going to play but DH and when he complained all of a sudden he had all these little injuries, grif doesn't complain he is just built like a girl always getting hurt, but at least when he comes back he plays without fear of getting hurt again, and I love that, no sense being gun shy.

and prior and woods are good hitter too
my boy latroy hawkins sucks at the plate too, it hurts me because he used to rip the cover off the ball hitting nothing but bombs in HS. I bet he would have been an also SS or catcher, and he can run. ok so I am a little biased

the DH allows the players to remain in the league a little while longer no more career pinch hitters like rusty staub (remember him) it seemed like he got a hit everytime he stepped to the plate against the my cubbies

wdwain
04-12-2003, 02:32 AM
I like the DH, I think it is good for the game but I also like to see a pitcher go yard every once in a while!

podstock
04-12-2003, 04:58 AM
I like the DH rule. Hitters should hit; pitchers should pitch. That way, you allow old offensive hitters, like a McGwire, continue with his offensive on-slaught without having to play in the field.

And besides, if the manager wants to let the pitcher hit, then it's fine.

I understand the clamor about how it makes for good strategy with pitchers hitting; but the fact of the matter is that even the best hitting pitchers can't even bat over 0.300

Install DH for both leagues...and if the manager wants to let the pitcher hit, that is fine

Molina00
04-12-2003, 08:14 AM
I am surprised to see so much support for the DH.
I thought I was one of very few people that actually liked it.

pwaldo
04-12-2003, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by podstock
I like the DH rule. Hitters should hit; pitchers should pitch. That way, you allow old offensive hitters, like a McGwire, continue with his offensive on-slaught without having to play in the field.

And besides, if the manager wants to let the pitcher hit, then it's fine.

I understand the clamor about how it makes for good strategy with pitchers hitting; but the fact of the matter is that even the best hitting pitchers can't even bat over 0.300

Install DH for both leagues...and if the manager wants to let the pitcher hit, that is fine

McGwire never used the DH more than like 10 times. He finished his career in the National League.

pwaldo
04-12-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by gioperation
because he sucks that is why, when he signed that big contract all he has done is been a cry baby, esp when they took him off first he was a liability and konerko is a better fielder, where else is he going to play but DH and when he complained all of a sudden he had all these little injuries, grif doesn't complain he is just built like a girl always getting hurt, but at least when he comes back he plays without fear of getting hurt again, and I love that, no sense being gun shy.

and prior and woods are good hitter too
my boy latroy hawkins sucks at the plate too, it hurts me because he used to rip the cover off the ball hitting nothing but bombs in HS. I bet he would have been an also SS or catcher, and he can run. ok so I am a little biased

the DH allows the players to remain in the league a little while longer no more career pinch hitters like rusty staub (remember him) it seemed like he got a hit everytime he stepped to the plate against the my cubbies

Okay I really don't care that much for Thomas. I know he complains so people can hate him.

But Griffey does complain.

He complained when the media was "harassing him" and asking questions. He didn't like all of the attention he got playing for the Reds. When a reporter told him that he didn't look like he was having fun playing Griffey got mad and ripped the reporter. After he got hurt he was complaining about the team and the fans not wanting him. Then he got mad when the Reds tried to trade him.

Both guys complain a lot but at least Thomas has done something in the past 4 years.

podstock
04-12-2003, 01:50 PM
It's amazing how fast Frank Thomas career has plummeted in these last several years. Once upon a time, he was a big success in Chicago, in baseball and in his business ventures.

Now, all that's talked about is his whining about how he's under-paid....and I totally agree with the critics.

As for Griffey....he's got the curse of the Seattle Mariners baseball gods.

gioperation
04-12-2003, 05:38 PM
I can't wait until a pitcher bats clean-up, now that would be some skills.

stkmtimo
04-12-2003, 05:48 PM
Maybe Mark Prior can do that, he's shown some hitting skills for the Cubs :)

Tim

gioperation
04-12-2003, 06:03 PM
kerry wood can swing the bat to, heck I remember maddux and rick sutcliffe was a very good hitter, hell he pinch hit a couple of times

pwaldo
04-12-2003, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by gioperation
I can't wait until a pitcher bats clean-up, now that would be some skills.

Didn't Babe Ruth do that?

gioperation
04-12-2003, 06:15 PM
that is one of the reasons they moved him from pitching. So that he could bat everyday, what a good move

pwaldo
04-12-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by gioperation
that is one of the reasons they moved him from pitching. So that he could bat everyday, what a good move

Yup. That was a great move, moving him to be a hitter. Now trading him to the Yankees that's another story.

plunge
04-13-2003, 11:04 AM
As much as I hate the DH because baseball has become such a hitters game, I hate even more to see pitchers swing. I'll take the DH...it's less embarrassing.