elprofesor2112
07-16-2006, 09:51 PM
I read the following on a Caldwell Co., Missouri-related website, and I was wondering if the picture I've attached could refer to the baseball team in 1870 that the interviewer I've cut-and-pasted below refers to. This interview took place in 1934, but I noticed the "Kemper-Paxton" on the jerseys, and an Internet search led me to think that maybe it was a baseball team that was sponsored by the "Kemper-Paxton" store mentioned in the interview (as most teams were in those days, sponsored by local businesses).
If so, can you identify either of the men in the picture? If need be I could probably arrange to send you a high quality blow-up scan of the card. The card is what's called a "cabinet" ... it's a type of old style baseball card that was common from the 1860's until the 1910's, until better printing technologies were more widely and cheaply available. The caption on the bottom reads "Skinned 'em, 4 to 3." Might that refer to that first game in 1870? Are there any historical records of that game? Any information you could provide would be very helpful.
Anyway, here's the website I got this info from:
http://members.tripod.com/kingscrossfarm/interviews/taylor_allee_in_hamilton_in_1865.htm
And here's the interview excerpt I'm talking about:
"On the east side of Davis (Main) was the Kemper-Paxton store (a frame on the Bram site) first building in 1865, then came a space and the livery stable of Thurston Green brother of Harvey who ran the stage coach line which originally ran from Richmond to Gallatin with Hamilton as a middle point. As the railroads developed to the north it was shortened from Richmond to Hamilton.
In the middle sixties Dr. Nunn was the only doctor. Before 1870 Bennett Whitely built a mill due east of what is now the park on the south west corner of the block. This was afterwards used for church and school. He was an ordained Baptist Elder, a merchant and Editor in his time. There was the Goodman lumber yard on Broadway on present Ralph White home.
Before 1870, on Mill street about the site of Parker's grocery, Austin Dodge had a blacksmith shop. His wife soon opened up a millinery shop on the corner of Mill and Broadway. At his death, she married R.D. Dwight and the shop became known as Mrs. Dwight's Millinery Shop.
After Mr. Allee's father bought the Daviess County farm Taylor went there and worked ten years, so he knew little of Hamilton in the seventies. It was about 1870 that the elevator by the right of way on Main was put up, Guy and Naugle ran it, Love and Lamson, Love and Eugene Low, were some of the early men there.
When he came back to Hamilton after living in Daviess County he worked for Schaffer-Tanner in the hard lumber business, site of Alec Warden's home south of the tracks on Broadway. Then he worked seven years for Lamson and Love in the elevator. Then he began clerking for Emmet White who bought out Deaerick on north Main.
Mr. Allee played on the first baseball team in Hamilton about 1870. Dr. King was captain, another player was Roy Bowman (Alston Bowman's son). They played in Dudley's pasture. There were some differences in the old game. The pitch was underhand pitch, not a throw. The pitcher had to give the batter whatever kind of a ball he asked for, as a knee ball, a waist ball."
Interviewed June 1934.
Thanks
If so, can you identify either of the men in the picture? If need be I could probably arrange to send you a high quality blow-up scan of the card. The card is what's called a "cabinet" ... it's a type of old style baseball card that was common from the 1860's until the 1910's, until better printing technologies were more widely and cheaply available. The caption on the bottom reads "Skinned 'em, 4 to 3." Might that refer to that first game in 1870? Are there any historical records of that game? Any information you could provide would be very helpful.
Anyway, here's the website I got this info from:
http://members.tripod.com/kingscrossfarm/interviews/taylor_allee_in_hamilton_in_1865.htm
And here's the interview excerpt I'm talking about:
"On the east side of Davis (Main) was the Kemper-Paxton store (a frame on the Bram site) first building in 1865, then came a space and the livery stable of Thurston Green brother of Harvey who ran the stage coach line which originally ran from Richmond to Gallatin with Hamilton as a middle point. As the railroads developed to the north it was shortened from Richmond to Hamilton.
In the middle sixties Dr. Nunn was the only doctor. Before 1870 Bennett Whitely built a mill due east of what is now the park on the south west corner of the block. This was afterwards used for church and school. He was an ordained Baptist Elder, a merchant and Editor in his time. There was the Goodman lumber yard on Broadway on present Ralph White home.
Before 1870, on Mill street about the site of Parker's grocery, Austin Dodge had a blacksmith shop. His wife soon opened up a millinery shop on the corner of Mill and Broadway. At his death, she married R.D. Dwight and the shop became known as Mrs. Dwight's Millinery Shop.
After Mr. Allee's father bought the Daviess County farm Taylor went there and worked ten years, so he knew little of Hamilton in the seventies. It was about 1870 that the elevator by the right of way on Main was put up, Guy and Naugle ran it, Love and Lamson, Love and Eugene Low, were some of the early men there.
When he came back to Hamilton after living in Daviess County he worked for Schaffer-Tanner in the hard lumber business, site of Alec Warden's home south of the tracks on Broadway. Then he worked seven years for Lamson and Love in the elevator. Then he began clerking for Emmet White who bought out Deaerick on north Main.
Mr. Allee played on the first baseball team in Hamilton about 1870. Dr. King was captain, another player was Roy Bowman (Alston Bowman's son). They played in Dudley's pasture. There were some differences in the old game. The pitch was underhand pitch, not a throw. The pitcher had to give the batter whatever kind of a ball he asked for, as a knee ball, a waist ball."
Interviewed June 1934.
Thanks