niko792
04-15-2003, 07:23 PM
Anyone know amy good secrets for this years brands??
LMK, Niko
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View Full Version : Pack Searching niko792 04-15-2003, 07:23 PM Anyone know amy good secrets for this years brands?? LMK, Niko radioheadfloyd 04-15-2003, 07:28 PM I don't know but I was at Target the other day and I saw this guy search packs for about 15 minutes feeling over nearly every pack there and then he left without buying anything. I wonder if her really knew what he was doing. I bought three packs and got a jersey card so I did ok without any search. stkmtimo 04-15-2003, 07:33 PM Yeah, that happens to me too. I was at a Target the other day and this guy had about 30 packs out on a cash register and was feeling and looking through all of them. He bought two packs, I wonder if he got anything. Tim PS - I bought a few that he had searched for fun - I pulled a jersey card, too. Guess he didn't know what he was doing :) Those thick pieces of cardboard they throw in are very tricky! podstock 04-15-2003, 09:01 PM huh? what's the point of feeling out every pack? Aren't they solid packs, so that you can't see what card is inside? I don't understand. bigl0l8477 04-15-2003, 09:04 PM the point of feeling packs is this: when game used jersey cards first came out, the packs they were in were naturally thicker than the other packs, thus making it easy to feel pack and determine which pack has a GUJ. now card companies are putting thicker cards in the packs to make sure all the packs feel the same....but there are still packs that you can tell have jersey or memorabilia cards in them. wdwain 04-15-2003, 11:21 PM At my local Kmart a guy felt his way through a box of Playoff Absolute Football, Probably ruined most the cards! (It looked like he was breaking them in half) If he did find a Jersey it had to of been bent when he opened the pack. He did the whole box that way and then he bought only one pack. niko792 04-16-2003, 04:21 PM Ya, the card companies are better at catching people these days. podstock 04-16-2003, 05:21 PM bigl0l8477..thanks for the explanation. I wasn't aware of that . stimpy_09 04-16-2003, 09:31 PM I hate those point cards that are inserted in some of the packs. Think I have a jersey card everytime, but find out they are worthless points. niko792 04-17-2003, 04:30 PM Ya, Corey You should be smart enough now, that you would know that if it is thick it isn't necessarily a jersey. But I guess thick sculls like you don't learn well. LOL j/k. IggyWH 04-17-2003, 04:32 PM That'll teach you guys for feeling up packs! :) I won't lie... I still do it. It's so hard to pass up a pack when you reach into a box and you feel a pack that's more thick than all the other packs. niko792 04-17-2003, 04:45 PM Are you trying to "baffle them with your bullshit"? LOL j/k Ya, I packsearch whenever I get the chance. john1170 04-17-2003, 06:19 PM I think the whole pack searching thing sucks. It's hard to explain to my 10 yr old daughter that we can't buy any of these packs because your chance of getting a game used card is virtually none. Even the non sport packs like daredevil or crocodile hunter are searched for the event worn stuff. Those are the cards she hopes for when i buy her these. I usually buy her a full box of something so she is guaranteed but don't get to the hobby shops or shows as much as I used to so Target is pretty much the only option. It sucks when you walk up to the sport card section and every pack is out of order and turned upside down. Finally got lucky the other day and was there when the woman was putting out fresh boxes. Bought 10 packs of 2003 Topps Heritage and got an Al Kaline bat card. Gave it to the little one even though she has no clue who he is. Put a smile on her face though. jdfan123 04-17-2003, 08:00 PM pack feeling is the most despicable thing in the hobby when i see someone doing it at walmart i try to embaress him by making it a point what he is doing is wrong its stealing from a child in my opinion. I know the dealers r the worst offenders and people think if they dont someone else will but its still wrong a 10 doller bat card is not worth my intregrity IggyWH 04-17-2003, 08:30 PM Originally posted by jdfan123 pack feeling is the most despicable thing in the hobby when i see someone doing it at walmart i try to embaress him by making it a point what he is doing is wrong its stealing from a child in my opinion. I know the dealers r the worst offenders and people think if they dont someone else will but its still wrong a 10 doller bat card is not worth my intregrity Okay, well next time you go and buy some fruit from the market, don't you dare feel any of it to see if it's in good condition. Feeling packs is no different... you want to know sort of what your buying before you actually buy it. radioheadfloyd 04-17-2003, 08:33 PM Originally posted by IggyWH Okay, well next time you go and buy some fruit from the market, don't you dare feel any of it to see if it's in good condition. Feeling packs is no different... you want to know sort of what your buying before you actually buy it. LOL, that is a bad analogy. :) IggyWH 04-17-2003, 08:37 PM Same thing... you feel a pack to see if it's thicker because you want the better pack. You feel tomatoes to make sure they aren't mushy so you'll have a better chance of getting a good tasting tomato. john1170 04-17-2003, 08:48 PM Originally posted by IggyWH Okay, well next time you go and buy some fruit from the market, don't you dare feel any of it to see if it's in good condition. Feeling packs is no different... you want to know sort of what your buying before you actually buy it. Are you feeling the pack to see if its in good condition(or edible) or are you trying to find out what is inside the pack? I believe its the latter. You don't buy fruit to re-sell, you buy it to eat. Why would somebody want to buy a rotten piece of fruit? I have seen this response on multiple boards and the 2 have nothing to do with each other. I want to know how you would feel if you walked up to the card counter with a son or daughter of yours and you knew they had no shot at that jersey card they like not because of the value but because they like it and have to tell them, "can't buy those, somebody already searched them." It has gotten so bad that last time i was in Target the tops of some of the hockey packs were all opened just the slightest bit to get a peek inside. The sad thing is, the worker at target pointed it out to me. They know whats going on and don't do a damn thing about it. pwaldo 04-17-2003, 09:47 PM Originally posted by radioheadfloyd I don't know but I was at Target the other day and I saw this guy search packs for about 15 minutes feeling over nearly every pack there and then he left without buying anything. I wonder if her really knew what he was doing. I bought three packs and got a jersey card so I did ok without any search. Yeah most pack searchers "think" they are so good because they feel packs for about an hour. Go through about 10 boxes. Buy 25 packs and walk away with 1 jersey card that they can resell for $3.00. Why do people still care so much about "game used" cards? You can buy a Babe Ruth bat card for under $100. When they first came in common jersey and game used cards sold for over $100. Now they are so overproduced that they will be worth the same as early insert cards. IggyWH 04-17-2003, 10:16 PM Originally posted by john1170 Are you feeling the pack to see if its in good condition(or edible) or are you trying to find out what is inside the pack? I believe its the latter. You don't buy fruit to re-sell, you buy it to eat. Why would somebody want to buy a rotten piece of fruit? I have seen this response on multiple boards and the 2 have nothing to do with each other. I want to know how you would feel if you walked up to the card counter with a son or daughter of yours and you knew they had no shot at that jersey card they like not because of the value but because they like it and have to tell them, "can't buy those, somebody already searched them." It has gotten so bad that last time i was in Target the tops of some of the hockey packs were all opened just the slightest bit to get a peek inside. The sad thing is, the worker at target pointed it out to me. They know whats going on and don't do a damn thing about it. As far as the kid thing goes, it's not the person who felt the packs fault. They're just using their powers to the best of their advantage. If you have beef about a kid not being able to get a good card, then don't blame the people buying the packs, blame the card industy's for not doing anything about the different sizes of the packs. WHat's to say your kid won't feel a pack and say to themself "hey, this pack is more thick, maybe that means I get more cards." Opening packs is just wrong but I see that happen all the time. I do no approve of it. There is nothing wrong with feeling packs because in the end, aren't I spending my money? Am I hurting Target by picking out a specific pack I want to buy? Not at all... it's survival of the fittest in some odd form. Like I said before, feeling food is no different that feeling packs. You want the most bang for your buck and that's what you are trying to accomplish. It doesn't have anything to do with reselling and if I wanted to, I could resale that food just like I could resale what cards I pull from that pack. I don't sell my cards though as I'm just a pure collector so that example doesn't fit me. Let me make clear that I don't go through every box when I want to buy a pack of cards. I always pick a pack from the middle right side, but if while I'm digging down to the middle I feel a fat pack, I'll definitely buy that one. stkmtimo 04-17-2003, 10:21 PM Iggy - Just curious, how do you feel a thick pack with those fat cards UD put in (and other brands)? Tim jdfan123 04-17-2003, 10:30 PM Originally posted by IggyWH Okay, well next time you go and buy some fruit from the market, don't you dare feel any of it to see if it's in good condition. Feeling packs is no different... you want to know sort of what your buying before you actually buy it. dude you are so wrong i cant respond to that idiotic statement.Fact is this is a childs pastime collecting cards and the chances of them getting any thing of worth is next to nil because grown men like yourself must feel up card packs. When you get older iggy and have kids of your own you will understand. niko792 04-17-2003, 10:43 PM I am a teen and I like to pack search. stimpy_09 04-17-2003, 10:46 PM At our local card shop, you are not allowed to feel the packs. I don't think I have ever really done it because i feel better if i pull one on surprise. stimpy_09 04-17-2003, 10:50 PM Hey Niko, Don't you think of anyone but yourself. If you pack search, some of the cards are goingto get wrecked or damaged for the next person who is just buying them for their luck. niko792 04-17-2003, 10:52 PM Not the way I search, I don't bend at all or feel, I just look for certain characteristics, that I am not going to share with you, ya skull brain, goop! Ya you heard me, I said it!!!!!!! I don't bend, the cards aren't wrecked. You thick skull. jdfan123 04-17-2003, 11:00 PM stimpy_09 dont sweat it dude these guys dont understand or care they think they r getting over on everyone because they r so smart.When i have to stoop to the level of feeling up packs to get a damien miller bat card or a darius miles jersey its time to grow up and leave childish things behind like collecting cardboard. stimpy_09 04-17-2003, 11:01 PM Hey Niko, So is tht the reason that you pull better stuff than me? Ya right. Not. All of that Havlat stuff you pull is crap. He sucks and so do the sens. Stick with a good team like the Blackhawks and a decent player like Kovalchuk yoou peanuthead. niko792 04-17-2003, 11:01 PM That is just the thing though, we don't collect cardboard like you, we collect Jerseys. LOL niko792 04-17-2003, 11:03 PM I don't pull anything of Havlat you tool of a fool. I pull Jerseys like Bure,boo ya. I trade for exciting Havlat. He rules like the Sens. Where are the Blackhawks, and Kovalchuk at this time of year. Are they swinging away. Ya I said it you fool tool jewel. You know nothing stimpy_09 04-17-2003, 11:04 PM Ya Niko, Some insert is better than a two cent no name jersey card like a Havlat. jdfan123 04-17-2003, 11:05 PM ok guy you win had this discussion on alot of boards it gets me nowhere do what you have to do i will do my thing enough said. niko792 04-17-2003, 11:06 PM Ok, knowing you who goes and buys $30 Private Stock packs, to find a no name jersey. I think to my self......look who's talking.... LOL. It is better to buy a $5 pack with a jersey, than a $30 pack with a jersey. Ya I said it you Corey. Tool. stimpy_09 04-17-2003, 11:07 PM I am with you all the way jdfan. no sense ruining the hobby for everybody else. Ville Nieminen 04-18-2003, 12:27 AM "When Good Threads Go Bad: The Story of the Pack Searching Thread" john1170 04-18-2003, 08:32 AM Originally posted by IggyWH As far as the kid thing goes, it's not the person who felt the packs fault. They're just using their powers to the best of their advantage. If you have beef about a kid not being able to get a good card, then don't blame the people buying the packs, blame the card industy's for not doing anything about the different sizes of the packs. WHat's to say your kid won't feel a pack and say to themself "hey, this pack is more thick, maybe that means I get more cards." Opening packs is just wrong but I see that happen all the time. I do no approve of it. There is nothing wrong with feeling packs because in the end, aren't I spending my money? Am I hurting Target by picking out a specific pack I want to buy? Not at all... it's survival of the fittest in some odd form. Like I said before, feeling food is no different that feeling packs. You want the most bang for your buck and that's what you are trying to accomplish. It doesn't have anything to do with reselling and if I wanted to, I could resale that food just like I could resale what cards I pull from that pack. I don't sell my cards though as I'm just a pure collector so that example doesn't fit me. Let me make clear that I don't go through every box when I want to buy a pack of cards. I always pick a pack from the middle right side, but if while I'm digging down to the middle I feel a fat pack, I'll definitely buy that one. I find nothing wrong with picking up a pack because it feels thicker, it is the ones who stand there and do whatever they are doing to find what they are looking for. It winds up damaging the cards inside. I buy a lot of the heritage stuff at target for sets and lately most of the cards are dinged, dented and creased because people have nothing better to do with their lives then to molest a pack of cards. I mistakingly thought you were doing the same when you were talking about pack searching but as you stated if you feel a thicker pack then you buy it which like i said before I have no problem with and for that I apologize to you. niko792 04-18-2003, 09:19 AM Thank you for the apology. As I said before I don't even have to touch the packs. I just look at the backs of the packs and I know. I don't have any Target or other stores like that around here, so I don't hurt kids, even though I am a kid myself. I live in Canada so I can only go to shows and shoppes. I have only packsearched 2 times and have been succesful. I just prefer to buy a $5 pack with a jersey than a $30 Private Stock pack with a jersey. john1170 04-18-2003, 09:25 AM Originally posted by niko792 Thank you for the apology. As I said before I don't even have to touch the packs. I just look at the backs of the packs and I know. I don't have any Target or other stores like that around here, so I don't hurt kids, even though I am a kid myself. I live in Canada so I can only go to shows and shoppes. I have only packsearched 2 times and have been succesful. I just prefer to buy a $5 pack with a jersey than a $30 Private Stock pack with a jersey. I think you are confused, I wasn't apologizing to you, I was apologizing to Iggy. BGray 04-18-2003, 10:19 AM There has been a bit of flaming in this thread and I'll tell you all I don't care for it. If you've got a good argument that is great but name calling won't be tolerated. Some posts have been taken out. BGray stkmtimo 04-18-2003, 11:23 AM BGray, thanks for doing that. This thread really got out of hand and I was getting sick of the name calling. Thanks. Tim stimpy_09 04-18-2003, 11:28 AM I apologize for any name calling that came from me. Thankyou Bgray for getting this thread under control. IggyWH 04-18-2003, 12:31 PM Originally posted by john1170 I think you are confused, I wasn't apologizing to you, I was apologizing to Iggy. LOL, thank you... and to answer jdfan's post, when I was collecting was like 3 years ago. I started collecting when I was about 6 and collected untill I was 19 putting all of my hard earned money into cards. So if I reached into a box to grab the pack I want and happened to feel a thick pack, I'd take that one. I never really bought pack at retail stores, they were always at cardshows. I never said I was smart or anything but hell I was a kid... if I felt a thick pack that meant to me more cards. The more cards I could get for my money the better. I never stood there and felt through boxes of cards. The only time I remotely did anything like that was '93 Topps. They came with scratch games and if you scratched the 3 right areas, you won Topps Gold Winner cards. If you squeezed the side of the pack, you'd be able to tell if the game card was on white cardboard or black cardboard. The white cardboard you could shine light through and see which areas to scratch. But hell I was 11-12 back then so if you want to chastise me for something I did then, then so be it. niko792 04-18-2003, 12:37 PM Thanks BGray for getting this thread under control. I don't wreck the cards. gioperation 04-18-2003, 12:46 PM all man, when I first read this thread I was getting excited because I thought people were really searching for packs to find out if it was a man or female, before you bought, in this and age you can never tell, esp if you watch jerry springer, with the way some of those guys look you have to search packs. LOL niko792 04-18-2003, 12:52 PM I don't get it gioperation. IggyWH 04-18-2003, 01:14 PM Originally posted by niko792 I don't get it gioperation. replace packs with packages and you'll understand. gioperation 04-18-2003, 01:40 PM oh I thought packs was short for pakages...lol IggyWH 04-18-2003, 01:42 PM Originally posted by gioperation oh I thought packs was short for pakages...lol We all have to excuse Gio because he's just an old horny man. bigl0l8477 04-18-2003, 02:08 PM i actually enjoy watching other people feel packs (as long as they are not damaging the cards). the reason i enjoy this is because there are not many things funnier than a guy searching through packs for hours only to buy a few packs that he thinks have a jersey card inside and not get anything. it is very hard to feel packs nowadays because card companies are not stupid. |