With a run away score Vince Young has won the award. 23 votes to colston and drews 9 each. It was an easy choice and i cant wait for next year to see what he can do with some talent they pick up in the offseason. VY10 is the future.

i think he should of won but no love for maurice. 16 TDS????? Almost 1000 yards running plus receiving and kick returns. Those are some nice numbers.

Popularity contest. Young was deserving, but not as deserving as Drew. I don't think you can disagree that the national media played a big part in this victory.

Nah VY deserved it. He would have been my first choice also. With what he did with no talent much around him. I had to give it to him.

I'm going to address this "lack of talent" issue once and for all, since I know this is the argument all the Vince Young fans will be clinging to. People say Maurice Jones-Drew is surrounded by talent on the offense in Jacksonville, and Vince Young doesn't have as much talent on his side in Tennessee. Let's look at the facts here:

Team leaders:

Rushing:

Tennessee-Travis Henry-1211 yards, 7 touchdowns
Jacksonville-Fred Taylor-1146 yards, 5 touchdowns

Advantage: Tennessee

Receiving:

Tennessee-Drew Bennett-46 rec, 737 yards, 3 touchdowns
Jacksonville-Matt Jones-41 rec, 643 yards, 4 touchdowns

Advantage: Tennessee

PS: Jacksonville leads the league in dropped passes. Yippee! How talented!

Do I even need to explain the Jacksonville QB situation? When your third stringer is competing for a starting job, you know it's bad.

Maurice Jones-Drew was a saviour to this offense. He had only one less touchdown than both of Garrard and Leftwich's passing touchdowns COMBINED.

Another hint about how "talented" the Jags offense is: they just fired their offensive coordinator, QB's coach, and wide receivers coach. Wow. And everyone knows Norm Chow is one of the most renowed OC's in the league, and will earn himself a starting job somewhere sometime soon. No one questions Jeff Fisher and he is very highly regarded by the rest of the league.

The fact is, no matter how you twist it, is Vince Young does have more talent surrounded by him on his offense. Maurice Jones-Drew does not.

Now, it's obvious the Jaguars have the better defense, but their defense is not as far ahead of the Titans as some people think. Let's look at the points given up:

36 to Washington (this is laughable, Jags lost the game)
27 to Houston (Jags lost the game 27-7 despite all their "talent" on offense and the Texans horrible defense)
27 to Buffalo (Jags lost this game as well)
24 to Tennessee (You can't blame this one on their defense, but this is just another testament to how bad their offense is: David Garrard threw two picks returned for TD's, and 1 fumble returned for a touchdown)
24 to New England (Not too bad, but not good for such a highly thought of defense)
35 to KC (Jags lost this game and were forced to put in their third quarterback, who is now by the way a candidate for the starting job!)

Even in games where the defense did good, the offense stunk it up to the point of defeat:

13-10 loss at home vs. Houston (Only 10 points vs. Houstons lowly defense?! Garrard throws 4 picks, 2 of which bounce off the of very "talented" Matt Jones' hands right into the arms of a Texans defender)
21-14 loss to Indianapolis (Not many teams can hold Indy down to 21 points, but Leftwich throws two picks to blow the game for the Jags)
24-21 loss to New England (defense does their job against three time champs, Garrards fumbles the ball away on the potential game-winning or game tying drive. Doh!)

So, why don't you guys explain to me, just how much more talent is on the Jacksonville roster. I'd love to hear it.

Jones-Drew got robbed.

PPS: Tennesssee finished ahead of Jacksonville in the division standings. Who's the better team?

Well im gonna say this. Vince Young LEAD "HIS" team to a end of season comback. the end

for the one who said the jags have less talent then the titans. here are the numbers

jags offense ranked 10th in the NFL
titans offense ranked 26th in the NFL

jags defense ranked 2nd in the NFL
titans ranked 32nd in the NFL dead last

that alone disproves anyone who thinks the jags have less talent then the titans. and those stats prove even more why the right guy was picked. and those numbers are straight from cbssportsline.com. check it out yourselves.

Those numbers don't disprove anything I said. When it comes to individual talent, the Titans have more. Obviously those rankings don't mean much when the Titans finished ahead of the Jags in the standing, now do they? You completely disregarded everything I said because it can't be disproved.

right but do you think if vince young is removed from the picture and drew is removed from the picture. who finishes with a better record?

right but do you think if vince young is removed from the picture and drew is removed from the picture. who finishes with a better record?


Considering Vince Young was responsible for 19 touchdowns and 16 turnovers, and Drew was responsible for 16 touchdowns and 1 turnover, I'd have to say the Titans would have a better record.

wow. your pretty bold to say that. kerry collins leading his team to a better record then leftwich and the jags. jags were one of the preseason favorites to make it and titans were picked dead last. your statements are ones of a "homer".

I believe the Titans wouldn't have stayed with Collins all year. Leftwich? I haven't heard anyone refer to him as good until you just did, not even a "homer" as myself. Who cares about picks? Sports writers aren't fortune tellers. They're the same as you and me. I admit I'm a homer, but not in this situation. Not when I have so many stats to back up my argument.

Vince Young was more deserving he was the quarter back he had to lead his team and he did great drew did not end of story

Vince Young was more deserving he was the quarter back he had to lead his team and he did great drew did not end of story

Drew did not do great? Good luck getting someone to agree with you on that one, even the Young homers. You're right. He is a quarterback. And last time I checked, 12 touchdowns and 13 interceptions for a quarterback isn't that great, certainly not-award worthy.

Considering Vince Young was responsible for 19 touchdowns and 16 turnovers, and Drew was responsible for 16 touchdowns and 1 turnover, I'd have to say the Titans would have a better record.


can you remind me real quick on the titans record when vince took over? That stat doesnt seem to want to come to me right now :)

just my 2cents but I have to agree with JayJagFan here ... Drew got robbed of this award big time. Jay provided stats from the "talent" on both teams and sure fire it add's up to the Titan's "Talent" being a nudge ahead of the Jags. Drew carried the Jags to a few notches in the W column as well and his overal numbers were stellar. VY had the hype of a 1st rounder and a National Championship title on his resume and while he did carry the Titans and turn them around for the better I don't believe he was the "Best" rookie STAT wise. BUT we all know and it has been proven again and again that this award is not based solely on stats, it's a huge popularity contest and it shows.

you partially right... the award is not based on stats but how you lead your teaem plays a huge role in it. The titans had not won a game when vince took over and still had a shot at the playoffs... Without him they would have been in the running for the number 1 draft pick next year. Look at hw many HUGE plays vince had this year.... i remember at least 4 or 5 on sportscenter where he took the ball in his own hands and carried the team. Just my opinion obviously but i say vince deserved it hands down

JaysJAGSFan.....are you sure there isnt any bias there?

JaysJAGSFan.....are you sure there isnt any bias there?

Nope, no bias in stats.

just my 2cents but I have to agree with JayJagFan here ... Drew got robbed of this award big time. Jay provided stats from the "talent" on both teams and sure fire it add's up to the Titan's "Talent" being a nudge ahead of the Jags. Drew carried the Jags to a few notches in the W column as well and his overal numbers were stellar. VY had the hype of a 1st rounder and a National Championship title on his resume and while he did carry the Titans and turn them around for the better I don't believe he was the "Best" rookie STAT wise. BUT we all know and it has been proven again and again that this award is not based solely on stats, it's a huge popularity contest and it shows.


Finally, some respect and intelligence!

I'll admit Vince Young had a lot to do with the Titans winning more games than expected, I would be stupid to deny that. But you can't say that the same doesn't go for Maurice Jones-Drew helping the Jaguars win games. I believe he won just as many games for the Jaguars as Young did for the Titans, AND he had better stats to go along with those wins.

A very popular assumption is that because Vince Young was the starting quarterback in a game, he was the reason the Titans won the game. However, let's look at the facts:

1: 14-45 Loss to Dallas- Young completes less than 50% of his passes for 1 TD and 2 INT's. He fumbles twice, with one lost. 5 rushing attempts for 3 yards.

2: 13-14 Loss to Indianapolis-Young completes less than 50% of his passes for a mediocre 63 yards and 1 interception. 4 rushing attempts for 43 yards and 1 TD.

3: 25-22 Win over Washington-In "Youngs first win," he completes 13/25 for 161 yards and 1 TD. 6 rushes for 10 yards. Fine stats, but mediocre at best. You want to know the real reason Tennessee won this game? Travis Henry's 32 attempts for 178 yards and a touchdown.

4:28-22 Win over Houston-Young goes 7/15 for 87 yards and 1 TD with 4 rushes for 44 yards and a TD. Once again, only mediocre stats. Reason Tennessee wins the game? Houston commits 5 turnovers.

5:7-37 Loss to Jacksonville-Young gets taken to school by my Jags, going 15/36 for 163 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT's. 4 rushes, 14 yards. Do I even need to explain this one?

6:26-27 Loss to Baltimore-Young goes 13/25 for 211 yards and 1 INT. 8 rushes for 39 yards and a TD. Once again, not very convincing stats, Tennessee loses the games.

7:31-13 win over Philadelphia-This one surely looks like a great win that people would like to give credit to Vince Young for-except he only went 8/22 for 101 yards and 1 TD with 6 rushes for 49 yards. Reason Tennessee wins the game? Donovan McNabb gets knocked out early, and a rusty Jeff Garcia gets put in. Philly commits 3 turnovers. Tennessee has a punt return and a fumble returned back for a touchdown. Travis Henry has 18 attempts for 143 yards and 1 TD.

8:24-21 win vs NYG-Alright, I'm not going to be ignorant here, Vince Young won this one, going 24/35 for 245 yards and 2 TD's along with 10 attempts for 69 yards and 1 TD. This is the first win Vince can actually be held accountable for.

9:20-17 win vs IND-Vince Young does above average in this game, going 15/25 for 163 yards, 2 TD's, 2 INT's. 9 rushes for 78 yards. Vince Young had a part in this win, but I'm going to have to give this win to Tennessee's defense for holding a potent Indy offense to 17 points and intercepting Peyton Manning twice.

10: 26-20 OT win vs. Texans: I'll give Young the credit for winning this one in overtime, but not for taking the game into overtime. Youngs stats before overtime? Just 19/29 for 218 yards and 1 INT, 6 rushes 47 yards. Vince Young won this in overtime, but Travis Henry's 2 TD's were the reason the game went into OT in the first place.

11:24-17 win vs. Jacksonville- I already went over this game before, but I will again anyways. David Garrard commits 3 turnovers, all of which were returned for touchdowns. Vince Young goes 8/15 for 85 yards with 4 rushes for 4 yards. Even the drive where the Titans got a field goal was provided by a Pacman Jones kickoff return inside the Jacksonville 20 to start off the second half, a drive in which VY and the Titans went 3 and out. This win, no doubt, goes to the Tennessee defense.

12:30-29 win over Buffalo: I'll give this one to Young, he did a pretty good job, going 13/20 for 183 yards and 2 TD's with 8 rushes for 61 yards and a TD. Travis Henry also plays well, providing 25 carries for 135 yards.

13:23-40 loss to New England: Young and the defense combine for this loss. Young goes 15/36 for 227 yards with 2 picks, 2 rushes for 29 yards and 1 TD, and 2 fumbles, one of which was lost.

Alright, let's hear how I'm a homer now. What's the next accusation that will be put on me? That I made up those stats?

Nope, no bias in stats.

Haha. The stats have been given and you still dont believe it. Who cares how many int's he threw. Just look at the win los compared from when he was riding the bench to when he started!

Haha. The stats have been given and you still dont believe it. Who cares how many int's he threw. Just look at the win los compared from when he was riding the bench to when he started!

Take a look at the long post I just provided. ;)

Take a look at the long post I just provided. ;)

I know. I read it. Jones-Drew AT BEST won 1 game for the jaguars.

I know. I read it. Jones-Drew AT BEST won 1 game for the jaguars.

Ok, even then, lets assume Maurce Jones-Drew won the Jaguars 1 game. By what I provided, Vince Young won the Titans 2-3 games at best. When you take into consideration how much better Jones-Drew's stats were, he would still come out on top, even if he did only win the Jaguars one game.

Ok the point is I think neither of them should have won but i think young was better. I am not going to say whho Ithink should have won because people will call me CRAZY. :)

i think he should of won but no love for maurice. 16 TDS????? Almost 1000 yards running plus receiving and kick returns. Those are some nice numbers.

I have to agree with you softballa. Vince Young IMO had a great season, and definitely deserved the award, but seriously Drew-Jones deserved 2nd, possibly even 1st! Not Marques Colston for 2nd place who was injured about half the season.

A very popular assumption is that because Vince Young was the starting quarterback in a game, he was the reason the Titans won the game. However, let's look at the facts:

1: 14-45 Loss to Dallas- Young completes less than 50% of his passes for 1 TD and 2 INT's. He fumbles twice, with one lost. 5 rushing attempts for 3 yards.

2: 13-14 Loss to Indianapolis-Young completes less than 50% of his passes for a mediocre 63 yards and 1 interception. 4 rushing attempts for 43 yards and 1 TD.

3: 25-22 Win over Washington-In "Youngs first win," he completes 13/25 for 161 yards and 1 TD. 6 rushes for 10 yards. Fine stats, but mediocre at best. You want to know the real reason Tennessee won this game? Travis Henry's 32 attempts for 178 yards and a touchdown.

4:28-22 Win over Houston-Young goes 7/15 for 87 yards and 1 TD with 4 rushes for 44 yards and a TD. Once again, only mediocre stats. Reason Tennessee wins the game? Houston commits 5 turnovers.

5:7-37 Loss to Jacksonville-Young gets taken to school by my Jags, going 15/36 for 163 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT's. 4 rushes, 14 yards. Do I even need to explain this one?

6:26-27 Loss to Baltimore-Young goes 13/25 for 211 yards and 1 INT. 8 rushes for 39 yards and a TD. Once again, not very convincing stats, Tennessee loses the games.

7:31-13 win over Philadelphia-This one surely looks like a great win that people would like to give credit to Vince Young for-except he only went 8/22 for 101 yards and 1 TD with 6 rushes for 49 yards. Reason Tennessee wins the game? Donovan McNabb gets knocked out early, and a rusty Jeff Garcia gets put in. Philly commits 3 turnovers. Tennessee has a punt return and a fumble returned back for a touchdown. Travis Henry has 18 attempts for 143 yards and 1 TD.

8:24-21 win vs NYG-Alright, I'm not going to be ignorant here, Vince Young won this one, going 24/35 for 245 yards and 2 TD's along with 10 attempts for 69 yards and 1 TD. This is the first win Vince can actually be held accountable for.

9:20-17 win vs IND-Vince Young does above average in this game, going 15/25 for 163 yards, 2 TD's, 2 INT's. 9 rushes for 78 yards. Vince Young had a part in this win, but I'm going to have to give this win to Tennessee's defense for holding a potent Indy offense to 17 points and intercepting Peyton Manning twice.

10: 26-20 OT win vs. Texans: I'll give Young the credit for winning this one in overtime, but not for taking the game into overtime. Youngs stats before overtime? Just 19/29 for 218 yards and 1 INT, 6 rushes 47 yards. Vince Young won this in overtime, but Travis Henry's 2 TD's were the reason the game went into OT in the first place.

11:24-17 win vs. Jacksonville- I already went over this game before, but I will again anyways. David Garrard commits 3 turnovers, all of which were returned for touchdowns. Vince Young goes 8/15 for 85 yards with 4 rushes for 4 yards. Even the drive where the Titans got a field goal was provided by a Pacman Jones kickoff return inside the Jacksonville 20 to start off the second half, a drive in which VY and the Titans went 3 and out. This win, no doubt, goes to the Tennessee defense.

12:30-29 win over Buffalo: I'll give this one to Young, he did a pretty good job, going 13/20 for 183 yards and 2 TD's with 8 rushes for 61 yards and a TD. Travis Henry also plays well, providing 25 carries for 135 yards.

13:23-40 loss to New England: Young and the defense combine for this loss. Young goes 15/36 for 227 yards with 2 picks, 2 rushes for 29 yards and 1 TD, and 2 fumbles, one of which was lost.

Alright, let's hear how I'm a homer now. What's the next accusation that will be put on me? That I made up those stats?

That's a really good post. I agree with you on basically all of that.

ok since we are going game by game lets see this

jones drew first game was against dallas - 2 carries for 8 yards - jags win and had nothing to do with drew

game 2 against steelers - 2 carries for 7 yards - jags win had nothing to do with drew

game 3 against indy - drew finaly comes through against the worst run de in the game. (even ron dayne ran for 153 and 3 tds)
13 carries 103 yards 4 recep for 32 and td
after sucha good game the jags loose. didnt matter what drew did

game 4 against washington - 3 carries for 3 yards - 3 recep for 53 yards and a td and they lost again. drew cant carry his team to victory

games 5 against the jets - 13 carries for 59 yards and 2 tds no reps. the jags won this game but it had nothing to do with drew. taylor ran for 111 and a td and the defense held the jets to 0 points. this win goes to the defense

game 6 against houston - 8 carries for ten yards and a td and 7 receps for 58 yards and once again they lost. drew isnt good enough to beat the texans a horrible team.

game 7 against philly - 21 carries for 77 yards - 3 receps for 32 yards no tds
jags win because their defense allowed only 7 points

game 8 againt vy10 and tennessee - 8 carries for 56 yards - 2 receps for 20 yards no tds. again the jags win because of good defense.

game 9 against houston - 3 carries for 11 yards and a td - 4 receps for 56 yards. and they loose again to houston. too bad for drew that he couldnt help them beat a really bad team.

game 10 against the giants - 9 carries 45 yards 1 td - 2 receps for 10 yards. they win again because of great defense allowing only 10 points

game 11 against buffalo - 8 carries for 78 yards and a td - 5 receps for 57 yards. they loose again. drew cant do anything to help his team win

game 12 against miami - 5 carries for 46 yarsd and 1 td
once again the defense holds the other team to 10 points. credit for victory is jags defense.

game 13 against indy - 15 carries 166 yards 2 tds - 1 recep for 15 yards. again ron dayne ran for 153 and 3 tds. credit for victory jags defense for holding indy to 17 points. as for kick return yards if they dont count for devin hester they cant be used for drew. they are neither offensive or defensive stats and have no bearing on ROY.

game 14 against vy10 and tennessee - 25 carries for 98 yards and 1 td - 3 receps for 47 yards. the jags loose again thanks to the fact that VY10 doenst turn the ball over and the jags do. drew cant make the difference here.

game 15 against New England - 19 carries for 131 and 2 tds - 6 receps for 41 yards. and they loose again. drew and his monster game come up short again. drew doenst make the difference

game 16 against KC - 12 carries for 46 yards and 1 td - 4 receps for 16 yards. and they loose again and miss playoffs. drew comes up short and cant carry his team to victory

drew lead his team in rushing only 5 of 16 games and one of those was a game were taylor sat out. and as for alot of his touchdowns. he only go tthem because taylor set him up kinda like in ny were jacobs had more tds then barber. he was only a goal line rb most of the season.

there is not one game that you can say drew one for the jags. not one. and i will say this again the jags were a preseason favorite for the playoffs and the superbowl and the titans were early season favorites for the #1 pick in the draft. and they ended up with the same record each team beating each other once.

Now there is on thing we know for sure there is no way the titans have the same record as the jags if there is no drew or no young.

as for the guys who talk about stats. if you ask anybody who truely knows anything about football they will tell you stats dont mean anything and that the only stat that matters is WINS. as a starter Young is 8-5. the most difficult position to play. you cant say that about drew because he doesnt even start and is only 8-8. the main reason why drew didnt win is because of the number of runningbacks that came out and made impacts on their teams. running backs are no longer a prised position. no-one is willing to pay them big bucks anymore and everyone seems to be willing to trade running backs because there are so many of them. Mike Bell had a productive season and he wasnt drafted. Runningbacks cant even hold a candle to QBs. quarterbacks will always be the highest paid players and are very rarely traded.

There are a couple differences between my arguement and yours:

First of all, you go out on an insult-based tangent to get your point across half the time, with statements such as "drew isnt good enough to beat the texans a horrible team," while I present my argument in an eloquent, unoffensive manner. That should tell you one thing right there.

Second of all, I have never claimed Drew one many games for the Jags, I even admitted in a prior post that he probably won 1 game for the Jaguars. You Vince Young fans are acting like just because Young was starting in the 8 wins, he was the reason they won. I CLEARLY proved that wrong already. Vince Young won maybe, as I have proven, 2-3 games at best.

Third, you're right, Vince Young is a quarterback. And his stats as a quarterback are simply not good. He's a below average quarterback with horrible mechanics. He's a good runner.

I don't know where you're getting these predictions from. I've never heard anyone pick the Jaguars for the Super Bowl. All the "experts" were saying that the Jags were overrated when they went 12-4 because of their easy schedule and many predicted the Jags to be a bust this year because of their harder schedule. That's what happened. Never heard anyone once mention their name for a Super Bowl. I also never heard anyone predict Tennessee to be the worst team in the NFL. They weren't even the worst team the year before and they had done nothing but improved over the offseason, so that "prediction" is obviously made up too. I saw most experts predicting Tennessee to finish 5-11 or 6-10. And hey! What do you know? I said Vince Young was responsible for 2-3 more wins, and that's what happened if you go by the 5-11 or 6-10 prediction.

You're right, wins do matter. And the fact is, 2-3 wins isn't that great. You can't really use the "wins" column much for a running back because, like you said, running backs don't matter. But that's just what Vince Young is. A running back.

Titans don't win a Super Bowl under Vince Young. Book it.

JaysJagsFan......there is something you dont get. It doesnt MATTER how many picks you throw as long as you win. Look at this: Rex grossman can throw 4 picks in a game but he can still come through and win the game with 2 or 3 td's and realize the defense is heavily credited for these wins.

JaysJagsFan......there is something you dont get. It doesnt MATTER how many picks you throw as long as you win. Look at this: Rex grossman can throw 4 picks in a game but he can still come through and win the game with 2 or 3 td's and realize the defense is heavily credited for these wins.

The defense does win the games for the Bears. Rex Grossman is not a good quarterback. I don't know what people don't understand about the quarterback not always winning the game for the team. I know turnovers don't matter if you win, but once again, I proved Vince Young only won 2-3 games. They're the Tennessee TITANS, not the Tennessee YOUNGS.

The defense does win the games for the Bears. Rex Grossman is not a good quarterback. I don't know what people don't understand about the quarterback not always winning the game for the team. I know turnovers don't matter if you win, but once again, I proved Vince Young only won 2-3 games. They're the Tennessee TITANS, not the Tennessee YOUNGS.


Jacksonville Jaquars not Jacksonville Jones-Drews.

ps:i really think this is pointless because it is incredibly bias

Jacksonville Jaquars not Jacksonville Jones-Drews.

ps:i really think this is pointless because it is incredibly bias

Nice comeback, except I'm not the one claiming Jones-Drew won them all their games. I admitted earlier he probably won them one game. Doh!

This is not incredibly biased, because I have provided so many legitimate arguments to back my choice, while everyones argument against me is that I'm a biased homer, which is totally irrelevant and has nothing to do with the National Football League or the Associated Press Offensive Rookie of the Year Award.

Bump.

as for the guys who talk about stats. if you ask anybody who truely knows anything about football they will tell you stats dont mean anything and that the only stat that matters is WINS. as a starter Young is 8-5. the most difficult position to play. you cant say that about drew because he doesnt even start and is only 8-8. the main reason why drew didnt win is because of the number of runningbacks that came out and made impacts on their teams. running backs are no longer a prised position. no-one is willing to pay them big bucks anymore and everyone seems to be willing to trade running backs because there are so many of them. Mike Bell had a productive season and he wasnt drafted. Runningbacks cant even hold a candle to QBs. quarterbacks will always be the highest paid players and are very rarely traded.[/QUOTE]

saw this and just had to respond.
the above paragraph has some major errors in it.

this guy says stats don't mean anything unless you win. how many games did the lions win when barry set the rushing record?

says again, running backs have no impact, and no one is willing to pay them. do these names ring a bell?
peterson, tomlinson, smith? THERE ARE MORE.

also says, quarterbacks rarely traded. do these names ring a bell?
pennington, cassel, cutler, orton, and how about favre? THERE ARE MORE.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE, IT WAS A POPULARITY CONTEST.

had to edit this to ask this question. how do vince youngs stats compare to roethlisbergers stats his rookie year? that should settle it,
and make it a no brainer.

why did u bump this?

I bumped this because I wanted to see if anyone would still defend Vince Young being more valuable to his team than Maurice Jones-Drew. I knew he was a bust from the beginning, and MoJo just got a new four year contract extension. The post I thought was the funniest was the one that asked if I really believed that Kerry Collins would have been able to lead the Titans to the playoffs, lol.

Don't get all happy now because MJD got a contract. He has yet to prove he can lead his team without Fred Taylor. I'm not saying he can't but he has yet to prove it. VY is not a bust yet he will have another shot. I still believe he can lead an NFL team. And he deserved to win ROY back in 06.

Lol.

I bumped this because I wanted to see if anyone would still defend Vince Young being more valuable to his team than Maurice Jones-Drew. I knew he was a bust from the beginning, and MoJo just got a new four year contract extension. The post I thought was the funniest was the one that asked if I really believed that Kerry Collins would have been able to lead the Titans to the playoffs, lol.

No as of right now, but QB's usually develop later and play longer so nothing is set in stone. Up to this point Drew is clearly the better player.

And he deserved to win ROY back in 06.

You sure about that?

Vince Young 2006
66.7 Passer Rating 30th in NFL
12 TDs/ 13 INTS
184 comp/ 357 att 51.5% 32nd out of 32 starters
1 40+ yard comp worst of 32 again
2,199 yards, 6.2 per attempt tied for 4th worst
12 fumbles

MOJO 2006
5.7 yards per carry 1st in NFL
13 rushing TD's tied 3rd in NFL Another 2 Receiving
1 Fumble on 166 carries
46 receptions 9.5 yards per catch

Don't get all happy now because MJD got a contract. He has yet to prove he can lead his team without Fred Taylor. I'm not saying he can't but he has yet to prove it.

Leading his team in TDs for three straight years isn't proving it? What does it take?

Using that logic, Adrian Peterson hasn't proven himself yet either.

Btw, Taylor only had 556 yards last year. Drew had more carries and yards, so I think it's safe to say that losing Taylor will not deter his performance. Plus, we have Greg Jones who can step in and take some carries as a "pounder" type of running back as well, and possibly drafting a complement. Not to mention Drew only had 3 less receptions than our leading wideout as well.

You sure about that?

Vince Young 2006
66.7 Passer Rating 30th in NFL
12 TDs/ 13 INTS
184 comp/ 357 att 51.5% 32nd out of 32 starters
1 40+ yard comp worst of 32 again
2,199 yards, 6.2 per attempt tied for 4th worst
12 fumbles

MOJO 2006
5.7 yards per carry 1st in NFL
13 rushing TD's tied 3rd in NFL Another 2 Receiving
1 Fumble on 166 carries
46 receptions 9.5 yards per catch

Having more INT's than TD's caught up w/ him. Looking back how did he win that.lol

In VY's defense, you didn't include the rushing yards. Plus, his team got the wins.

But, I do think VY is way overrated, and definately did not deserve it.

WHO CARES!?!?!?!?! It was 2 years ago!!!! Get over it!!!

WHO CARES!?!?!?!?! It was 2 years ago!!!! Get over it!!!


yeah, does he really have that much of a man crush on Jones-Drew?

WHO CARES!?!?!?!?! It was 2 years ago!!!! Get over it!!!

Well when your team has never been to a Super Bowl you have to grasp at thing such as Rookie of the Year.