View Full Version : 2003 All-Star Game voting starts


plunge
05-02-2003, 10:21 AM
The official voting started at mlb.com yesterday. You can vote at their site. Is anyone going to bother voting this early?

pwaldo
05-02-2003, 11:12 AM
I'll vote now.

Most players who get in are the ones that have the lead early on becaues people don't bother for voting for players if they don't have enough votes.

But one thing I don't like is that I keep getting emails from MLB.com from my voting last year and I block their address and asked to be removed and I STILL GET THEM.

podstock
05-02-2003, 11:40 AM
I not only will start voting early, but I am gong to do it often, via computers at home/work/libary. And at ballgames.

This is the year Tim Salmon of the Angels gets in, whether it's by fan votes (Anaheim's had tremendous home attendance so far), or having Scioscia pick him.

Garrett Anderson also will be going. Same for Troy Glaus and Troy Percival.

In the past years, Torre's brought his entire Yankees team ( I do not care if that was deserved or not).

Now, it's the Angels turn. Hell, bring 5'7" 165 lbs David Eckstein, as well!!

pwaldo
05-02-2003, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by podstock
I not only will start voting early, but I am gong to do it often, via computers at home/work/libary. And at ballgames.

This is the year Tim Salmon of the Angels gets in, whether it's by fan votes (Anaheim's had tremendous home attendance so far), or having Scioscia pick him.

Garrett Anderson also will be going. Same for Troy Glaus and Troy Percival.

In the past years, Torre's brought his entire Yankees team ( I do not care if that was deserved or not).

Now, it's the Angels turn. Hell, bring 5'7" 165 lbs David Eckstein, as well!!

I can almost guarentee that Tim Salmon will not get voted in by the fans.

The only Angels player that I am voting for is Troy Glaus.

plunge
05-02-2003, 11:55 AM
Sounds like there's already a competition between how many Angels and how many Yankees are going into the All-Star game. What about putting your money where your predictions are--I'll hold the money in my paypal account and the winner gets the pot.

pwaldo
05-02-2003, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by plunge
Sounds like there's already a competition between how many Angels and how many Yankees are going into the All-Star game. What about putting your money where your predictions are--I'll hold the money in my paypal account and the winner gets the pot.

No, I wasn't making it a competition I was just stating that there are a lot of good outfielders and I don't think Salmon will make the team unless he gets voted in.

But I kinda think it will be a no brainer that more Yankees will go in.

Soriano is a lock.
Matsui will probably get in due to the Japanese votes.
Jorge is a lock. Unless there is a catcher I am missing.
Then you have the pitchers.
Plus Bernie might make it and the fans might vote in Giambi even though he doesn't deserve it.

plunge
05-02-2003, 12:06 PM
I meant to be tongue-in-cheek in my last post. Should've added LOL to it. So, (LOL), Podstock: do you agree with pwaldo's prediction?

pwaldo
05-02-2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by plunge
I meant to be tongue-in-cheek in my last post. Should've added LOL to it. So, (LOL), Podstock: do you agree with pwaldo's prediction?

Sorry about that. Sometimes I don't always get the meaning behind people's posts.

podstock
05-02-2003, 12:33 PM
pwaldo...we'll see.

Anaheim, b/c they won the title, has had incredible attendance so far this year.

And more and more fans are jumping on the bandwagon (myself, a Dodger fan disillusioned by farking Rupert Murdoch and his company)

Salmon is headed to the All Star game, one way or another.

Plunge: well, if it comes down to selecting an Angels player vs. selecting a Yankees player, who do you think Mike Scioscia picks, knowing that Torre brought all his Yankees troops to the dance with him?

plunge
05-02-2003, 12:47 PM
That's almost a rhetorical question, podstock. I just hope Scioscia won't be starting a trend.

podstock
05-02-2003, 01:01 PM
Scioscia won't be starting a trend, he's just continuing what Torre started.

Let's hope Scioscia doesn't do the Torre thing, and play every player an at-bat or let every pitcher see 1 batter, just so everyone gets to play.

or else, there's going to be a second tie ball game.

lololol

plunge
05-02-2003, 03:22 PM
I would assume because the home-field advantage is at stake for the World Series, the "everyone gets to play" is thrown out the window.

gioperation
05-02-2003, 05:44 PM
tim "fishman" salmon doesn't get in on fan vote he has horrible defense. well just not as good as he should be as last years WS run that took him out in the late innings...I guess he should bring K-rod and lackey too right. Once you put those advanced scout on those players their #'s drop. K-rod is no longer untouchable and lackey is having a terrible year.


who is going to in the OUTfield, I bet hunter, ichiro and matsui

pwaldo
05-02-2003, 08:19 PM
Good shot that Ichiro and Matsui will make it. With the Japanese voting they will put them in even though they might not deserve it. Hunter I don't know. He's not having a great year and the Twins have struggled.

If he doesn't make it look for the fans to put in maybe Bernie Williams or Juan Gonzalez.

plunge
05-02-2003, 08:51 PM
I agree that Juan's got a shot at it this year. I tend to think that popularity beats out who, depending on the year they're having, wins the voting. Which is why Ichiro is a shoe-in.

podstock
05-02-2003, 09:06 PM
Did anyone noticed that the roster is now expanded to 32?

Interesting, huh?

now, more players can claim to have been an All-star. lolol

pwaldo
05-02-2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by podstock
Did anyone noticed that the roster is now expanded to 32?

Interesting, huh?

now, more players can claim to have been an All-star. lolol

I think they did it because of the tie last year. Both managers claimed they "didn't have enough pitchers" which was BS because some people only threw 1 pitch.

I've already begun to discredit the whole I made so many all star games so I'm such a great player. Most players today get in because they are popular and not because they are gooo. Example Vince Carter making the NBA All Star game. :confused: He only played like 10 games.

gioperation
05-02-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by pwaldo
Good shot that Ichiro and Matsui will make it. With the Japanese voting they will put them in even though they might not deserve it. Hunter I don't know. He's not having a great year and the Twins have struggled.

If he doesn't make it look for the fans to put in maybe Bernie Williams or Juan Gonzalez.

and that doesn't stop them from voting him in he is steal killing it in CF and look out for jacque jones in left, that guy is a potential glove glove winner.

pwaldo
05-03-2003, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by gioperation
and that doesn't stop them from voting him in he is steal killing it in CF and look out for jacque jones in left, that guy is a potential glove glove winner.

I didn't say he couldn't get in I just said that he might not get voted in.

Basically its a lock that the 2 Japanese players will get in. So that leaves 1 space open. And I wouldn't bet that Hunter will get in. Does he deserve it? Yes. But the fans don't always vote in the most deserving players.

stkmtimo
05-03-2003, 02:08 PM
Time to stuff the ballott boxes. I did it at the Yankee games last year, voted all Yankees (they deserved it). The Indians and Red Sox fans should know a lot about box stuffing...

Tim

podstock
05-03-2003, 03:50 PM
Agree about NBA All-star.

If ever there's a sport that ****ALL*** about pure hype and hysteria, it's the NBA.

Right now, Devean George has done more in his 4-year career (btw, he was the first ever Division II-A player chosen in 1st round, picked #27 or #28 by Lakers) than Grant Hill has ever done.

For the last 2-3 years, Grant Hill is right up there in All Star balloting votes.

Man, you've got to be farking kidding me?!?!?

NBA and MLB have to institute what the NFL is doing:

a certain % of votes is from players, from fans, from coaches. Then those are added up to determine who makes the All-Star game

pwaldo
05-03-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by podstock
Agree about NBA All-star.

If ever there's a sport that ****ALL*** about pure hype and hysteria, it's the NBA.

Right now, Devean George has done more in his 4-year career (btw, he was the first ever Division II-A player chosen in 1st round, picked #27 or #28 by Lakers) than Grant Hill has ever done.

For the last 2-3 years, Grant Hill is right up there in All Star balloting votes.

Man, you've got to be farking kidding me?!?!?

NBA and MLB have to institute what the NFL is doing:

a certain % of votes is from players, from fans, from coaches. Then those are added up to determine who makes the All-Star game

Agreed. I do like what the NFL does but I don't think that needs to be done in baseball. They USUALLY do the right thing. The NBA is a different story. I just don't get the fans voting in some players like they do.

plunge
05-03-2003, 08:37 PM
I think it's stupid to have people vote on-line as many times as they want. What does that accomplish? Maybe they're afraid of so few people who vote or want big numbers so they have the false confidence that so many people voted.

pwaldo
05-03-2003, 09:49 PM
I agree that it is stupid.

Why let people on the Internet vote as many times as possible? They should let you vote only a few times or not at all and have the fans AT THE STADIUM VOTE.

Doesn't baseball get it that these are the people paying to go to the game so they are more important then some computer geek on the Internet.

podstock
05-03-2003, 11:12 PM
pwaldo...EXACTLY!! Fans who pay money for tickets, for parking, for food and drink at the stadiums, should have their votes counted more than some geek (LOLOL) at a computer.

That geek probably has the knowledge to figure out how to vote for a player 50 times in less than 5 minutes, all done via computer with a click of the mouse

plunge
05-04-2003, 10:59 AM
And how relevant is the voting when the managers for both teams hand-pick a number of players already?

stkmtimo
05-04-2003, 01:26 PM
I guarantee you the fan balloting isn't even used. It's probably all the inner workings of Bud Selig and the managers!

Tim

pwaldo
05-04-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by stkmtimo
I guarantee you the fan balloting isn't even used. It's probably all the inner workings of Bud Selig and the managers!

Tim

I don't think that happens.

But I find it ironic that Bud complains about fans not supporting baseball and then they don't do anything for the fans that show up to games. They should be the ones voting. Its to easy for people to cheat with the Internet and those aren't really the fans that should be voting because they WON"T even be attending the All-Star game.

stkmtimo
05-04-2003, 07:17 PM
Exactly. I attended many Yankee games last year and voted at each one with their ballot boxes. I like your idea, no more Internet voting.

Tim

pwaldo
05-05-2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by stkmtimo
Exactly. I attended many Yankee games last year and voted at each one with their ballot boxes. I like your idea, no more Internet voting.

Tim

It wouldn't be totally eliminating the online vote but they should have it where fans who go to the stadium's vote count more than the ones online.

Maybe like a 70/30 thing or something.

leftyshan
05-05-2003, 06:38 PM
The only Angel deserving of the All-Star game in my opinion is Garret Anderson. There's no way Kingfish makes it with fan voting.

podstock
05-06-2003, 01:57 AM
Good point, Lefty. But I betcha Scioscia brings him along as a reserve, and deservedly so.

However, with the way the Angels are playing (or perhaps it's NOT PLAYING?), there's no chance he can bring along a bunch of Angels.

At least when Torre did that, his Yanks were steam rolling along.

pwaldo
05-06-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by leftyshan
The only Angel deserving of the All-Star game in my opinion is Garret Anderson. There's no way Kingfish makes it with fan voting.

Glaus should make it because there's not much competition at 3rd base. So he might make it. I know I'm voting for him.

podstock
05-06-2003, 10:39 PM
I am voting...again, and again, and again.

Sort of makes me feel like I live in one of the counties in Florida.

lol

Where's Kathryn Harris when we need her?

btw, she used the publicity she got from the FL vote count fiasco to get elected to a higher, more powerful office

pwaldo
05-07-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by podstock
I am voting...again, and again, and again.

Sort of makes me feel like I live in one of the counties in Florida.

lol

Where's Kathryn Harris when we need her?

btw, she used the publicity she got from the FL vote count fiasco to get elected to a higher, more powerful office

There is no such thing as bad publicity.

And I'm not singling you out because I'm voting over and over again. But this is why it should not really be up to Internet fans to determine who's going to the All-Star game.