View Full Version : Bitten By Upper Deck's Redemption Again
shcards 07-18-2007, 07:42 PM First I had a Ryan Howard auto from 2006 Ultimate Upper Deck card was not produced so they sent me a replacement a Ken Griffey jr. not bad.Now I had a Tedy Bruschi auto numbered to 35 from 2006 Ultimate card not produced so they sent me 2004 Matt Schaub auto from Diamond Collection Pro sigs and a tom brady jersey card.The Schaub is not even numbered and I pay all that money for Ultimate and Upper Deck can't send acard from a high end product.Am i being to picky?thanks.Steve
Chiefs2007 07-18-2007, 07:50 PM Well...ud trys there best i say that it was nice that they even sent you something
fact81 07-18-2007, 08:00 PM Ditto, Honestly, im surprised you a player thats actually IN THE NFL presently
Sorry man
Rob
elgato 07-18-2007, 09:30 PM It seems that Upper Deck goes out of their way to screw up and hurt customers. Push the issue.
11chaos 07-18-2007, 09:53 PM I can't agree with the others because UD has given you the wrong end of the stick.
shcards 07-18-2007, 10:12 PM I can't agree with the others because UD has given you the wrong end of the stick.
what should i do?
11chaos 07-18-2007, 10:19 PM You could always write them or call and complain. The last resort of the consumer.
chibearsrule 07-19-2007, 04:11 PM call or write and say you want something else.
sivjosh 07-19-2007, 04:15 PM What needs to happen is that people need to stop buying the products with redemptions.
If the collectors don't buy it from the dealers, the dealers won't buy it from the wholesalers, and the wholesalers won't buy it from Upper Deck.
Each time someone buys more Upper Deck (on any company's) product after getting screwed, it tells that company that it doesn't matter how you treat the consumer.
Shinino 07-19-2007, 04:15 PM And if nothing else, I might trade for the Schaub :)
htwheelz01 07-19-2007, 06:23 PM I would most definately complain about it.
goodcardsforyou 07-23-2007, 01:10 AM ill buy the schaub
2004 Matt Schaub auto from Diamond Collection Pro sigs
shcards 07-23-2007, 06:31 AM ill buy the schaub
2004 Matt Schaub auto from Diamond Collection Pro sigs
as of now not tradeing the schaub.i may be sending it back to upper deck thanks.
ensbergcollector 07-23-2007, 11:08 AM out of curiousity, how did the bv's compare?
theonedru 07-23-2007, 11:38 AM what someone needs to do is remind them that upperdeck cannot release something they cannot garantee to be in a product, its called fraud and breech of promise/contract a few other things in the legal world. someone need to sue their buttocks and the would win no problem, after all if i promised to sell someone something then and then sent somethign else i would be hauled into court quicker than i could think
elgato 07-23-2007, 05:58 PM Here is part of a recent Email I received from Upper Deck when they no longer had my cards in stock.
"When we cannot replace your cards we do not offer something of comparable value due to legal issues in the past"
1. Amazing that Topps and Donruss have no legal issues with this.
2. Even more amazing is that they have no problems with substitutions when it is to their benefit. i.e. failed redemptions
Essentially a redemption card is an IOU for what is listed on the card. I dont understand how they continue to get away with it.
elgato 07-23-2007, 06:00 PM I am so sick of the BS and dishonesty from Upper Deck that I will no longer purchase their trash.
sch1tz0fr3nik 07-23-2007, 09:00 PM Eh i've been waiting since Xmas...of 05 for a redemption I pulled...05-06 SPX Flashback Fabrics Lebron James Auto jersey...they even used the card in Normal Upperdeck to advertise the products.
He is a UD Spokesman and they cant get a card of his made and sent to customers? Hell they even came out with 06-07 Flashback Fabrics auto jersey of Him before i've heard of anything about mine!
mindcrime1981 07-24-2007, 01:11 AM It's been 18 months since I sent in my Mike Williams 05 SPx auto/jsy redemption and still waiting....actually there were 4 redemptions from this set and so far 3 weren't produced.
sch1tz0fr3nik 07-24-2007, 01:12 AM Mindcrime - I thought they already sent the Mike Williams out...had a friend pull 2 of them and got them about a year later...I could be wrong, but I'm 99% sure that it was the Mike WIlliams SPX AU/jersey
mindcrime1981 07-24-2007, 01:37 AM Mindcrime - I thought they already sent the Mike Williams out...had a friend pull 2 of them and got them about a year later...I could be wrong, but I'm 99% sure that it was the Mike WIlliams SPX AU/jersey
they released a partial on that card due to lack of autos...I didn't get mine and still waiting for it...
sch1tz0fr3nik 07-24-2007, 01:38 AM Ahh that really sucks. I just dont get Upperdeck Sometimes...Along with the Lebron I'm waiting on a Richard Hamilton Reflections Auto from the same year
shcards 07-24-2007, 07:42 PM This is what upper deck told me.
Unfortunately, Tedy decided not to return his cards. When this happens I strive to develop an exchange that provides value to the customer. In this instance I provided autos from Matt Schaub’s rookie year. This off season Matt was finally given the opportunity to start and his collectibles have been very hot. Since I understood there may be a great deal of Patriots fans waiting on these cards I did my best to also include a Brady Jersey card in the 10-15 range.
Again I apologize that we were unable to honor the original, but am more than confidant adequate value was provided.
shcards 07-24-2007, 08:34 PM I sent them a response and this is what they cam back with
I am the top of the line when it comes to redemption issues. If you would prefer another $40-50 card from Ultimate in exchange for the Schaub I am more than willing to accommodate. However, if you are looking for more value there is nothing else that will be done.
abcdefg 07-24-2007, 08:40 PM i sure hope this doesnt happen with my pujols...i spend $160 they'll probably send me a coco crisp ultiamte collection auto...i would be so pissed if they don't make the card mainly because it's an auto GU /25 of a superstar player from a high end product.
dillon46 07-29-2007, 02:07 AM Four Words...........Stop...........Buying........Upper ..........Deck
Honestly we should all send hate mail to them on a regualr basis, and then tell all other board member collectors accross the net to do the same.........
There service is garbage so is their product, they think they are invincible........obviuosly they have never heard of the business term "paradigm shift"
Trust me UD will be out of business sooner than they think, even Dealers and store owners are fed up with them
elgato 07-29-2007, 02:38 AM The dealers here refer to them as the evil empire. They treat the small dealers worse than they treat customers. Stop buying their crap!
Please post if this is not resolved to your satasfaction. There are additional options.
shcards 09-17-2007, 06:46 AM this is what upper deck is offering
i send back the schaub and they will send me a cole hamels auto numbered to 180 and a 2005 heath miller printing plate auto 1/1.
CollecterOfBalls 09-17-2007, 09:37 PM after seeing the texans at 2-0, id drop it and hold on to the schaub... its already going for over 80 on the bay
11chaos 09-17-2007, 10:42 PM this is what upper deck is offering
i send back the schaub and they will send me a cole hamels auto numbered to 180 and a 2005 heath miller printing plate auto 1/1.
Who is Cole Hamels? The Heath is nice, though.
rmgibson2000 09-18-2007, 12:04 AM I bought this on ebay almost a year ago I thought I was suppose to receive a replacement of
CARMELO ANTHONY / HAKIM WARRICK
05/06 NBA UD PORTRAITS DUAL SIGNATURE PORTRAITS 8X10
CD # DSP-10 BV$80
Yet I received this :
2006-07 Ultimate Collection Signatures Dennis Rodman
$60
I THOUGHT THEY WERE AT LEAST SUPPOSE TO MATCH BV'S??
shcards 09-18-2007, 06:44 AM Who is Cole Hamels? The Heath is nice, though.
a pitcher for the phillies
UpNorthOutWest 09-18-2007, 11:12 AM I've redeemed a 2007 SpX rookie auto of Ryan Braun some months ago. Nothing so far. These horror stories are making me nervous. I'll probably end up with a Neifi Perez auto.
It's bizarre to me that, if Upper Deck can't fulfill a promise, they don't attempt to keep their customers happy by giving you something of MORE value. Instead they hardly even attempt to give you EQUAL value.
And to the guy waiting on a LeBron jersey-auto, that really stinks. You can almost guarantee you won't get equal value if they send you a replacement.
sportsnutz1915 09-18-2007, 10:15 PM another ud screw up
elgato 09-19-2007, 03:18 AM If you are still not happy you can submit a complaint with the San Diego BBB online. They cover Carlsbad and it certainly gets UD's attention.
Phroger 09-19-2007, 03:29 AM I've had both good and bad responses from UD redemptions. The good was when a card never made it to my mailbox I just called and said I never received it. Two days later it was back on the redemption page and was sent again. The bad was a box of Ultimate baseball that was supposed to have a minimum of a dual autograph "on average" instead had two $8 rookie autos. I wrote a letter and they sent my an explanation of their term "on average" and three base packs of Ovation baseball. I sent the packs back saying nicely that this is not a suitable replacement. I then spoke to somebody on the phone in customer service and explained the situation. Since I was patient and explained everything again, they actually sent me another whole box of Ultimate. Again, two rookies and no multiple auto. I just gave up after that and decided that it wasn't worth it for those cards.
shcards 10-19-2007, 11:02 PM well i guess upper deck did me good i received in the mail today.lmk what you think as if i did o.k.
2005 upper deck foundations heath miller black printing plate auto 1/1 :)
2007 upper deck spectrum cole hamels auto 1/90 :)
shcards 10-20-2007, 09:27 PM so what does everyone think how did i do?
bearfield 10-22-2007, 12:51 PM i personally think that every time UD does it to someone, the person that did it gets a shot to the nads.
hagansp 10-22-2007, 01:36 PM truly sucks to have that happen. i have only ever had redemptions go bad with fleer...hopefully in the future it wont happen...
ill take the hamels if ya wanna trade it
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