The Cubs have the best pitching staff in the Major Leagues, but they lack offense. Prior, Wood, Clement, Zambrano, etc. are impressive young pitchers and once they get offense, I can sense domination in the offing.

Tim

they diff have the makings of the best, I wouldn't say they have the best now, but it is in the top 5.

They are pretty damn good, but Yankees and Oakland are pretty strong.

The best pitching staff is definitely the Yankees... as much as I hate to admitt it.

I'd disagree. The best pitching staff belongs to Oakland and their 3-headed monster.

Yanks' pitching staff (Mussina, Clemens, Wells) are old, and will wear down as season goes on.

Oakland's staff (Zito, Mulder, etc) are young and going into their prime

Last season I told some of my friends they would have the best staff in the majors within 3 years and just about got flogged for saying it. They have a lot of talent and are starting to come into their own. Zambrano's development is the key IMO.


BGray

Originally posted by podstock
I'd disagree. The best pitching staff belongs to Oakland and their 3-headed monster.

Yanks' pitching staff (Mussina, Clemens, Wells) are old, and will wear down as season goes on.

Oakland's staff (Zito, Mulder, etc) are young and going into their prime

LOL! They won't wear down. Mussina and Clemens especially are amazing pitchers. Oakland's offense will wear down and the Yankees will continue their quest of dominating baseball. They'll win the WS this year.

Tim

The older you are, the more likely you'll wear down.

That's why the Yanks pitching went downhill vs. the Angels in the post-season.

we'll see how they hold up this year.

I know, I just like to support the Yankees. Most people know that and it's pretty obvious given my Signature and avatar. I'm pretty sure they won't wear down, though. They need a new bullpen.

Tim

Originally posted by podstock
I'd disagree. The best pitching staff belongs to Oakland and their 3-headed monster.

Yanks' pitching staff (Mussina, Clemens, Wells) are old, and will wear down as season goes on.

Oakland's staff (Zito, Mulder, etc) are young and going into their prime


Wells a Monster? :confused:

LOL! Agree with you there BGray. Read his new book - it's hilarious.

Tim

Originally posted by IggyWH
The best pitching staff is definitely the Yankees... as much as I hate to admitt it.

Even though I am a very big Yankees fan I don't thinks its the best. Its one of the best though.

The A's have the best pitching staff. Every time they play the Yankees they shut them down and that's not easy to do.

I still maintain the best pitching staff is the Cubs. The Yankees are third, and the A's are second.

Tim

now do agree the cubs are the best hitting pitching staff, prior had 3 hits and double off the wall yesterday, come on....

Originally posted by gioperation
now do agree the cubs are the best hitting pitching staff, prior had 3 hits and double off the wall yesterday, come on....

I'll agree with them being the best hitting pitchers but not the best pitching pitchers.

You can have the best pitching staff but without run support, pitching can only go so far. So my vote is for the Yanks. The Braves I think have the best run support team actually.

The Braves, after a very slow start, in which they were being criticized for their off-season moves, are coming on like gang-busters.

Looks like they've got yet another division title coming up.

Many, how many have they won since 1990s?

Answer: too many

Originally posted by podstock
The Braves, after a very slow start, in which they were being criticized for their off-season moves, are coming on like gang-busters.

Looks like they've got yet another division title coming up.

Many, how many have they won since 1990s?

Answer: too many

Well the Braves deserve every one that they have won. They have fought through everything and are still going after all these years.

the a's are better, they have 3 aces and 2 decent lefties in halama and lilly. also harden on the way. as for chicago, prior and wood are aces, clement can be dominant, zambrano is a great #4, and estes well, replace him with cruz and your arguement might me better.

I still think the Cubs are most dominant. Then the A's and then the Yankees.

Tim

The Cubbies do have an excellent and powerful pitching staff, but the A's have them beat as of now. Zito, Mulder, and Hudson are great pitchers and just have some more experience and grace than the Cubs, but in a few years the Cubs staff will equal the Athletics.

A's are probally better but cubs might be best in 2 years

What about the Dodgers?

Originally posted by David
The Cubbies do have an excellent and powerful pitching staff, but the A's have them beat as of now. Zito, Mulder, and Hudson are great pitchers and just have some more experience and grace than the Cubs, but in a few years the Cubs staff will equal the Athletics.

like jeter said "the cubs pitchers have been the best staff we have faced this year and in a long while, don't only does all of there pitchers throw 95+ but they also got great control and command" I personnally think it has all about the damiam miller pick up. He has made those guys better...

wood
prior
clement
zambrano
estes

I wonder what their batting average and how many hr's and rbi's do they have as a staff.

Wood is too streaky(at least this year), if he can consistantly put up consistant numbers, then yes, this staff is the best. But Clement, he has really been terrible this year. Zambrano has shown some potential, but nothing to meritable. Estes, if he lowers that era, and the losses, he would be good.
But as of right now, there only guy who consistantly puts up great numbers, and is the staff ace is-Prior.

Originally posted by bergzautos
Wood is too streaky(at least this year), if he can consistantly put up consistant numbers, then yes, this staff is the best. But Clement, he has really been terrible this year. Zambrano has shown some potential, but nothing to meritable. Estes, if he lowers that era, and the losses, he would be good.
But as of right now, there only guy who consistantly puts up great numbers, and is the staff ace is-Prior.

Kerry Wood 34P

2003 era
2.96

W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO
5 4 2.96 13 13 0 0 0 85.0 60 29 28 7 10 40 111

those are woodies stats for this year, you say he is not the ace of the team, his era is 2.96 and avg'g 7 inning a game and 8.5 K's a game and who is the ace of the staff, he has 4 no decisions

I will tell you one thing, you white sux fan, the cubs really have 2 # 1's but you have to go with woodie because he is the verteran leader and while both have the same pitching style, prior gets to sit on bench and watch how wood approaches the hitters he will face the next day.

zambrano era is 3.05

and wood, prior, and zambrano each have 1 hr each and combined have 10 rbi's

I think that is pretty impressive

and wood is the ace of the staff.

I think the Yanks have te best (when performing to their best potential). They have names like Sterling Hitchcock and Jeff Weaver (temporarily a starter until Contreras comes back) in the bullpen.

You know what, i could care less about how much the White Sox suck. Wood is still 5-4, and what is Loaiza's record(9-2 maybe)?. He also has a tremendous amount of walks as well-40. Wood's main problem is that he gives up crucial runs at crucial times in the game. I watch quite a few Cubs games myself when there is nothing else on TV, and Wood may cruise through most of his innings just fine, but that one little mistake or 2, can cost him a ballgame.

Kerry is just like Nolan Ryan was, the team just doesn't score runs when he is one the rubber, I am sure loaiza would trade for woodie record in exchange for not being 5-7 games under .500.

plus one thing wood is home grown and loaiza was acquired, look at the pitchers who came through the cubs farm system v/s acquired through trade.

the white sux still suck...lol

with woods and prior both healthy, that's one heck of a great pitching #1-2 punch.

But remember, Cubbies had Maddux, then gave him away.

Cubs management (owned by Chicago Tribune) is CHEAP.

They're not going to keep either players on the cheap once a new contract is done; will they pay up big money for both pitchers?

Dodgers have far and away the best pitching staff this year. New York has had several problems with their staff, and Oakland can't seem to find a fifth starter. Chicago's has been very good, but wait till september and lets see how those young arms held up.