I don't think they should Let Cup Driver's in the Busch series what do ya'll think?

Sorry Mods delete this for some reason it didn't come out as a Poll

NOOO! Might as well call it Nextel Cup (The Watered Down version)
Give the Busch full time guys a chance! I think participating in a few races isn't bad, because it actually helps the young guys learn, but they shouldn't get points or a crack at the Championship. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth

So you are saying Harvick doesn't deserve the Busch championship even though he ran the full season? But it's OK if Hamlin, Sorenson, Bowyer, Ragan are allowed the extra track time to develop? What about the Truck series... who would be running in it if Nextel (or former Winston) cup drivers shouldn't be allowed to "move down/back"?

I agree that "some teams take advantage by using the Busch series to "feel out the track" but teams like Harvick who ran the whole season (even if it meant giving up practice time for Nextel) or the rookies in Nextel who have only ran one or two races at some tracks, should be given a chance.

Also how much whining will we hear from teams like Hendricks and Roush if they don't have a rookie contender that would be allowed to run Busch races, when other teams might?

JUST SOME OF MY THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS.

Al.

My thought along time ago was this - all or some and the some is set. Let me explain - drivers planning to run the entire schedule (these being Cup full-timers) should be allowed to do so. My thinking on everyone else is set the limit on them. Most critics are too narrowminded when it comes to this because what do I hear every time limiting them comes up? How many per race - whats the cut off?. No no. Make them like rookies more or less - tell drivers not commiting to the whole schedule they can run seven events and that is it - any more and you have to go through some sort of approval system (this would be in the instance that a Busch driver is injured or suspended and a replacement is needed for a few weeks). The inherent problem in this is that every driver on the some schedule would probably show up for the same seven events every year (both Charlotte, both Texas, Las Vegas, Daytona 1, and one other big money/prestigious race) and consequently deny some Busch full-timers the chance at a big just to start purse. These are my thoughts - these guys that ran 34,35 races - thats fine. This year was a little whacko on it with what? Seven that did it? Next year right now is going to be ugly too (Ragan, Reutimann, Edwards, Blaney at least) but not as ugly as this year. My thoughts on this topic. - Scott

Well all This was gonna be a Poll..LOL but for some reason when i got fishied setting everything up the Pol didn't show up

So ya'll Keep it Clean..LMAO

Once a driver goes to Nextel Cup, they should be allowed to race in the Busch Series for one more year. Then only occassionally. I'd like to see how the actual Busch drivers would do without Nextel Cup drivers racing too. It's kind of hard to tell how good the Busch drivers are.

ok..i'm going to actually coment on this

i am very happy harvick won..and happy bowyer won some this year..but if the cup drivers weren't in there my other driver casey atwood would have had a better chance sooo i guess i stand like this

cup drivers yes: 40%
cup drivers no: 60%

but sooooo help me if another person says harvick goes to busch because he can't make it in cup..i have heard that too much and i'm sick of it

I just don't see how you can say to a driver "I'm sorry, but you can't race here." You know why? Because you CAN'T say that to them. NASCAR can't deny an eligible driver entry into the Busch Series. Sponsors want driver who will run up front and they want name recognition. How you get both is to get Cup drivers to race for you. Don't blame NASCAR, don't blame the drivers, blame the sponsors and owners. Both of the latter are driving smaller teams out of the sport and thus negating the opportunity for other drivers to show what they can do. Most of the older drivers got their start with some team that was never affiliated with a Nextel Cup organization. It's hard to say that about the newer drivers. It's a shame. I used to love watching the Busch Series... now, I don't really care who wins because it's the usual suspects. Would I like to see fewer Cup drivers in the Busch Series? Yes. Do I see a way for it to realistically happen? No.

Alex

I have never been a big fan of Full-time Cup drivers doing Full-time in the Busch Series. We have been hearing that the Talent Pool isnt as big as it was a few years back. Might it be that there are less getting a chance? If a Cup guy wants to go back to the Busch series for a few races a year and knock around a bit, that is fine. I enjoy watching Tony Stewart hang it out. However, there are alot of young drivers that wont get a chance because Reeses, or who ever, says they want a big name. It would be nice to watch a Busch race without the highlight being 1 Busch regular cracked the top 10 for a change.
Just my thoughts...
Brendan

I for one have never liked the idea of Cup regulars running in Busch full time. IMO, it's harder for the guys in Busch to advance and they don't seem to get noticed as easily ... they're in the shadow of the bigger stars of racing. I see nothing wrong with the Cup guys running a few races, but not full time.

I'm not saying that Harvick didn't deserve the championship...he killed everybody and no one came close to knocking him off the pedestal, but if I were Bill France for a day and could make some changes for the future, anyone running FULL TIME in Nextel would not be eligible for championship points in Busch. I'd at least guarantee so many starting positions (how many I can't say) for the straight up Busch drivers. I know that'll never happen and it discriminates. Just my opinion.

So you are saying Harvick doesn't deserve the Busch championship even though he ran the full season? But it's OK if Hamlin, Sorenson, Bowyer, Ragan are allowed the extra track time to develop? What about the Truck series... who would be running in it if Nextel (or former Winston) cup drivers shouldn't be allowed to "move down/back"?

I agree that "some teams take advantage by using the Busch series to "feel out the track" but teams like Harvick who ran the whole season (even if it meant giving up practice time for Nextel) or the rookies in Nextel who have only ran one or two races at some tracks, should be given a chance.

Also how much whining will we hear from teams like Hendricks and Roush if they don't have a rookie contender that would be allowed to run Busch races, when other teams might?

JUST SOME OF MY THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS.

Al.

I'm not saying that Harvick didn't deserve the championship...he killed everybody and no one came close to knocking him off the pedestal, but if I were Bill France for a day and could make some changes for the future, anyone running FULL TIME in Nextel would not be eligible for championship points in Busch.

I agree 110%! :thumb: Just look at how many Cup regulars were in the top 10 in Busch points.

I don't like the Buschwackers...just as i do not like Toyota in NASCAR

I agree with alot of what is being said here, the drivers for Cup need to be in Cup to let new drivers work their way through the Busch Series. But its all about the money, the sponsors are never going to back up Cup drivers not driving in Busch. Who knows, they should just do the Busch Race and Cup Race on the same day and let the drivers go from one car to the next. See who is able to complete a double drive day! Lets even make sure to throw the Trucks in the night before and then the drivers can do three races within 24 hours!
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Rick

Who knows, they should just do the Busch Race and Cup Race on the same day and let the drivers go from one car to the next. See who is able to complete a double drive day! Lets even make sure to throw the Trucks in the night before and then the drivers can do three races within 24 hours!

lol...now that would be interesting!

Here's another thought that comes to mind. NASCAR has decided to "LIMIT" the number of teams an owner can have to bring more owners into Nextel Cup.

I can see Harvick maybe owning a team in Nextel in the future, so right now he is developing the team in Busch. Wouldn't it be unfair to all the owners who are using the Busch series as a stepping stone to Nextel to not be able to put the "best" equipment(meaning driver as well as machine) on the track so they can see if they will be competitive if, or when they move up to Cup?

Or would we want to see more inexperienced teams out there, to get in the way more than compete.

Here's another thought, what would happen if NASCAR took away the "Guaranteed" starting spots and Made every team/drtiver earn their way in to every race? Think that would make a few owners/sponsors ensure that the Cup guys stay and run every practice and qualifying?

Just more food for thought.

Al.