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gioperation
05-22-2003, 10:10 PM
The List: Top Phenom Flops
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Let's hope LeBron James never makes this list ...

1. Todd Van Poppel
The Atlanta Braves wanted to draft him No. 1 overall in 1990, but were wary of the bonus demands of a pitcher many scouts called the best high school prospect they'd ever seen. (Atlanta instead drafted Chipper Jones.) As for Van Poppel, he was drafted by Oakland and Baseball America rated him the best prospect in 1991, second-best in 1992, seventh-best in 1993 ... (see the trend there?)


Todd Van Poppel was never able to turn his ability into a productive big-league career.


2. David Clyde
The Texas Rangers drafted the Texas schoolboy legend (five no-hitters his senior year) with the first pick in the 1973 draft and, desperate for an attendance boost, promoted him straight to the majors. Clyde won his debut before 37,000 and remained in the rotation the rest of the year, but his major-league career was over by 1979, with just 18 wins.

3. Todd Marinovich
Trained from birth to be a quarterback by his father, Marv (a former lineman with the Oakland Raiders), Marinovich was the 1987 USA Today Offensive Player of the Year. After a lackluster college career at USC, the Raiders made him a surprise first-round pick in 1991, but he was out of the NFL after two years after failing a drug test. In March 2001, Marinovich pleaded no contest to heroin possession.

4. Brian Bosworth
An All-America linebacker at Oklahoma, the "Boz" left college early after failing a drug test. He had his autobiography out after his rookie year with the Seattle Seahawks, but his career flamed out quicker than you can say "Bo Jackson."


By the time he joined the Seahawks, the "Boz" became known more for his wild hair than his football ability.


5. Chris Washburn
He was a seven-foot man-child who was supposed to lead North Carolina State to another hoops title in the mid'-'80s, but was caught stealing a stereo, rarely (if ever) attended class and left early for the NBA. His talent made him the third pick in the draft, but he was out of the league in three years following three positive drug tests.

6. Brien Taylor
The third pitcher to make our list (it's a risky profession), Taylor was the first overall pick by the Yankees in 1991, and signed to a $1.55 million bonus -- even though the previous bonus high had been $575,000. Taylor appeared to be living up to his potential as a flamethrowing left-hander until injuring his shoulder in a fight. He never reached the majors.

7. Marcus Dupree
Dupree was such a highly-recruited running back out of Philadelphia, Miss., that novelist Willie Morris wrote a book called, "The Courtship of Marcus Dupree," published in 1983. Dupree had an impressive freshman year with Oklahoma in 1982, running for 239 yards in the Fiesta Bowl, but a rift with coach Barry Switzer made him leave school. He eventually joined the USFL but knee injuries soon ended his career.

8. Felipe Lopez
The New York City high school star's future appeared so bright that even The New Yorker wrote a long profile on him before he had started college. His career at St. John's was unspectacular, although he deserves credit for accepting a journeyman's role in the NBA.

9. Ron Powlus
Sometimes the hype machine is unfair to the player. One pundit predicted Powlus would win three Heisman trophies while quarterbacking Notre Dame. The expectations may have been unfair, but Powlus never came close to achieving Heisman status.

10. Alexandre Daigle
He broke some of Mario Lemieux's scoring records in juniors and was hailed as, well, the next Lemieux when Ottawa made him the first pick in the 1993 draft. But he never scored more than 51 points in a season and eventually played himself out of the NHL (he's back with the Penguins this season).

Others receiving votes
Josh Booty, Damon Bailey, Toe Nash, Ryan Leaf, Tony Mandarich, Marcus Liberty, LaRue Martin, Ben McDonald.

radioheadfloyd
05-22-2003, 10:12 PM
Luckily I didnt collect any of those guys, although I did have a few Van Poppel rookies.

What about the busts like Greg Jeffries? Remember when his card was so hot in 88! LOL

IggyWH
05-22-2003, 10:14 PM
Brien Taylor was more of a flop than any of those guys ahead of him. NY Yankees even paid for health insurance for his whole family as part of his contract! I still have a few of his '92 topps rookies including a gold card and mini card that were big money for back then.

plunge
05-22-2003, 10:54 PM
I remember Greg Jefferies. I'm surprised there was no mention of Strawberry or Gooden. I hope Profitmaker's avatar is not on this list either.

jdfan123
05-22-2003, 11:05 PM
nice list brings back alot of memories

gioperation
05-22-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by plunge
I remember Greg Jefferies. I'm surprised there was no mention of Strawberry or Gooden. I hope Profitmaker's avatar is not on this list either.


Plunge---funny

and how was strawberry a flop

jdfan123
05-22-2003, 11:13 PM
jim craig shoulda been on this list sorry

podstock
05-23-2003, 02:34 AM
I would vote for Ryan Leaf, only b/c it was his attitude that cost him a chance at stardom, well before he injured that wrist.

Victory Sports
05-23-2003, 08:50 AM
OMAR COOK!!!

pwaldo
05-23-2003, 10:47 AM
What about Harold Minor?

Remember "Baby Jordan". LOL

That guy was a huge bust.

gioperation
05-23-2003, 12:38 PM
for sure, but then again, he was the next air apparent to MJ, it is no way these players can be MJ in one or 2 seasons, hell MJ wasn't MJ in his first 2 seasons, and his air jordans wasn't the only good selling shoe, they had the akeems, the spud webbs, the air jordans, the birds, the magics, and a few other, or you could go old school and get the doc's ( the old converses)

podstock
05-23-2003, 04:21 PM
pwaldo...agree about Harold Miner.

The difference b/t Miner and Leaf is that Leaf thought he was the hottest thing this side of the universe and acted like it.

When you are not prepared in sports, you're gonna get killed.

Miner was a good person, just not as good as the hype.

You can't fault a player for not living up to the hype, but you can fault him for being snobbish and arrogant, for extracurricular activities (Brien Taylor injuring his shoulder in a fight, never made the majors despite signing a HUGE 1.55M contract right out of high school back in early 1990s)

just-for-cards
05-23-2003, 04:39 PM
Kevin Maas crashed and burned too.
And how about Ty Tyron? He'll make that list soon.

podstock
05-23-2003, 05:07 PM
True, Maas didn't do much for the Yankees, but he wasn't nearly as hyped up as these guys

RedMania
05-25-2003, 08:51 PM
ruben mateo, texas rangers. he was all that and everything more when he came up, he broke his leg and didnt seem the same. the rangers shipped him off to cincinnati for another bust in RHP rob bell. mateo lingered in cincy for a year, up and down, he was here since opening day this year but was recently put on waivers and not claimed, systematically put back down in the reds minor league system and with the outfielders here, he probably wont be back anytime soon. he was a major bust.

stkmtimo
05-25-2003, 09:00 PM
Brien Taylor was the biggest bust, ever! LOL. Does anyone remember his 1992 Topps RC that people were going crazy over?

Tim

Arastis
05-25-2003, 09:20 PM
I think Clyde should be #1 at least Van Poppel has pitched more than 6 years

Qball76
05-25-2003, 09:32 PM
How about that guy who was on the cover of SI I can't remember his name but above his picture it said the incredible bulk...He was some highly sought after player but once he quit using steroids he flopped....

pwaldo
05-25-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by stkmtimo
Brien Taylor was the biggest bust, ever! LOL. Does anyone remember his 1992 Topps RC that people were going crazy over?

Tim

Oh man.

I remember being in the shops back then and people were paying $10 per card!!!

That was crazy.

Ah the good old days. Glad I didn't buy any of those. :D :D :D

j.e.lew
05-25-2003, 10:00 PM
Anyone remember Joey Meyer of the Brewers in 1988-89?

That guy was supposed to be the next Mickey Mantle.

Well... who's heard of him?

Struck out on an average of 1 every 3 at bats!

podstock
05-25-2003, 11:24 PM
Joey Meyer -- ahh, didn't he have that 1987 Fleer rookie card, back when they did 2 players on 1 card, like Mark Grace and Darrin Jackson.

Meyer was just too fat.

j.e.lew
05-26-2003, 04:26 AM
I believe it was 1988, But I'm not sure. My partner in our shop in Wisconsin(this was several years before I knew him) Bought up all the cards he could find of him, I think he was paying 2-3 $ per card at the time. He must of had 3-4 hundred of those! He told me he lost more money on that than the 30 cases of 1988 Score he bought!

stkmtimo
05-26-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by j.e.lew
Anyone remember Joey Meyer of the Brewers in 1988-89?

That guy was supposed to be the next Mickey Mantle.

Well... who's heard of him?

Struck out on an average of 1 every 3 at bats!

Yeah! Joey "The Flyin' Hawaiin" Meyer! LOL, he did turn out to be a bust. Last I heard, he's living in Hawaii.

Tim

podstock
05-26-2003, 01:23 PM
ohh, those 1988 cards will never go away!!

It was just my luck that when I bought cards, that year was when I spent the most I ever did, lolol

stkmtimo
05-26-2003, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by pwaldo
Oh man.

I remember being in the shops back then and people were paying $10 per card!!!

That was crazy.

Ah the good old days. Glad I didn't buy any of those. :D :D :D


I remember that, as well. Brien Taylor was all the rage back then; a present day LeBron James hyped-up type!

Tim

podstock
05-26-2003, 01:27 PM
Brien Taylor never got the notoriety Lebron got.

Lebron's high school games were nationally televised, everything Lebron did was news-worthy.

by the way, Tim --- ya gonna send me the Carson Palmer Press Pass Rookie card?

j.e.lew
05-26-2003, 01:42 PM
What about these guy's?

FOOTBALL
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Cade mcnown
Curtis Enis
Rashaan Salamm
Ki-Jana Carter
Cecil "the deisel" Collins
Tony Mandarich..........What the F*** were the Packers thinkin??)
Archie Griffin

Basketball
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I'd have to agree w/ most already posted I really dont follow basketball that well.

But I do have to say.... Isiah/J.R. Rider or whatever he calls himself now.

Baseball
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Everyone is been covered pretty well

Hockey
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Daigle
Pat Falloon
Jim Carrey
Blaine Lacher.... Where the hell are these two Golies?????

podstock
05-26-2003, 01:56 PM
with respect to football --- I don't know if it is fair to say Ki-Jana was a bust.

He was a great RB coming out of Penn St.

Then he blew out a knee before the NFL season began.

It's tough enough to play sports healthy, but try doing so after a major surgery.

I agree with busts like Cade McNown, who graduated from my alma mater. I followed his career -- he was GREAT at UCLA.

but, when he came to Chicago --- his attitude was "...well, I am a first rounder, I'm gonna be the starting QB for Chicago, I've got money...."

And didn't bother to work hard.

Now, after being just cut from the Niners, he's trying to hang on. I would bet he's working harder now than he ever did when he started.

j.e.lew
05-26-2003, 02:04 PM
Well I see your point w/ Ki-Jana, But he was still a bust imo,

what about Mark Fydrich!!! Theres a Unknown that made a name for himself then just fell apart. Remember the hype on him half way through his rookie season?

stkmtimo
05-26-2003, 02:18 PM
Cecil Collins is now in prison. They said he would have been the greatest running back ever, had he stayed out of trouble.

Tim

RedMania
05-26-2003, 08:54 PM
akili smith is pretty close, this might be his last year with cincy.

RedMania
06-03-2003, 03:53 AM
i knew it, akili gone