this guy will go down as one of the top rebounders in the game and used to be a decent scoring early in his career. and he has some rings.

I think he deserves the hall??

what are you thoughts on this???

and what would he wear to the ceremony a suit of a dress???

hmmm. i dont think he deserves to be in the hall of fmae. i mean, come on look at the guy. his stats may show it, but he would be an embarrasment....

IMO

embarassment how this guy made a name for himself, and the was 6'6 220 and banging with the best of them, I remember going to his first game with the bulls against the spurs, robinson had 24 by the half against the bulls 3 headed monster, and they for the second half they put rodman on him, how many did robinson end up with a cool total of 30, because rodman shut him in the second half, and he has done that against most, in the hall you already have people you can call embarrassments i.e. racists and others.

personally i liked rodman his whole career, and no doubt he was one helluva rebounder, but I in no way would call him a hall of famer, hes more famous for his off the court happenings, than what he actually accomplished on the court.

no way

I believe Rodman deserves to be in the Hall of Fame for the reasons as follows:

First and foremost, he was a tremendous offensive rebounder. Anyone can go get defensive rebounds; but to grab offensive rebounds takes being active, knowing your teammates shooting tendencies, knowing how to get away from box-outs, etc.

Second, he was a tremendous defensive player. He was great at slowing down, if not stopping the other teams small and power forwards.

Third, he was an integral part of those 2 championships.

But, he is a borderline Hall-of-Famer, and will not make it in on his first chance.

If James Worthy had to wait until his second chance, and Worthy was a much better overall player; there's no way in heck Rodman makes it in during his first year of eligibility.

I would guess that Rodman won't make it until nearing the end of his eligibility. In baseball, you have 15 years of eligibility; after that, if you don't get a certain number of votes to keep you eligible, you are no longer considered. I don't know how long you get in the basketball game.

As for what he'll wear at the Hall of Fame induction: I would venture to say Rodman wears a bikini. And dye his hair a bright rainbowlike color

you are right pod, but you forgot about shutting down opposing centers and he has rings with detroit too right. I bet he could still play today.

I don't believe Rodman would be in god enough to play in NBA today.

Hi forte was being active on both offense and defensive board; in the last few years, he's basically partied his life away.

He lives near here in Newport Beach, and cops often get called to his home for disturbing the peace.

No way he'll be in the Hall. Too borderline of a player, and he's off court image counts for something. Take Pete Rose as a prime example.

Tim

I don't think he is a hall of famer.

Does anybody know off hand where he ranks on the all time rebounding list?

If he's up there high then he will get in.

If he's not then he won't get in.

Dennis Rodman
Position: Forward
Born: 5/13/61
Height: 6-6
Weight: 220 lbs.
College - SE Oklahoma State
Drafted - '86 Detroit Pistons


CAREER HIGHLIGHTS
*Led the NBA in rebounding (15.0 rpg) in 1997-98 for a record seventh consecutive season
*Has been a member of five NBA championship teams with the Chicago Bulls (1996, 1997, 1998) and Detroit Pistons (1989, 1990)
*Shares the NBA Finals record with 11 offensive rebounds in a game, achieving the feat twice during the 1996 NBA Finals
*Has appeared in 169 career NBA Playoff games, averaging 6.4 ppg and 9.9 rpg
*Grabbed a 1997-98 season-high 29 rebounds, adding 6 points and 5 assists, against the Atlanta Hawks on 12/27/97
*Posted 1996-97 season-highs of 16 points (8-11 FG) and 26 rebounds in a 116-101 victory over the Milwaukee Bucks on 1/10/97
*Grabbed the 10,000th rebound of his career against the Washington Bullets on 1/14/97
*Recorded his first career triple-double, with 10 points, 21 rebounds and 10 assists, against Philadelphia on 1/16/96
*Named NBA Defensive Player of the Year in 1989-90 and 1990-91
*Named to the NBA All-Defensive First Team seven times (1988-89 to 1992-93, 1994-95, 1995-96) and to the NBA All-Defensive Second Team in 1993-94
*Named to the All-NBA Third Team in 1991-92 and 1994-95
*Appeared in the NBA All-Star Game in 1990 and 1992, grabbing a total of 17 rebounds in 36 minutes
*Led the NBA in field-goal percentage (.595) in 1988-89


PERSONAL
Did not play high school basketball, but grew nine inches afterward
Names Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins as his favorite rock bands
Starred in the movie "Double Team" with Jean Claude Van Damme
Has authored two books, "Bad As I Wanna Be" and "Walk on the Wild Side"
Owns the Rodman Excavating Company in Dallas

:hop:
here is the link to all his stats
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dennis_rodman/index.html

Tim -- there is a big difference b/t Rodman and his wild, off-the-wall antics,

And Pete Rose being a criminal by betting on baseball while he was playing and while he was a manager


Do you not agree?

And if you equate goofing off, wearing wedding dresses, having wild parties at his house on the same level as Pete Rose and his gambling on baseball.......

Then I am very glad you are not a federal judge, because I shudder to think that you would send a homeless person who was stealing pizza to jail for life and send a convicted child rapist to jail for life.

After all, both did violate the law, did they not?

Surely you have the mental capacity to see the different levels of life?

Rodman never did anything that even closely resembled Pete Rose gambling on baseball.

Pete Rose. He bet on baseball! Big crap! That's nothing compared to what other athletes are doing. Players are beating their wives, getting arrested for DUI and drugs and Pete Rose "bets on baseball". It's a total falsehood and a wrong, vicious attack on one of the greatest hitters the game has ever seen. You're the one equating Pete Rose's gambling (which didn't hurt anyone) to Dennis Rodman's long list of abuse towards women, domestic disbturbance, petty theft, assualt and battery and the like. If you believe that betting on baseball is worse than the aforementioned, I question your authority on such a subject.

Tim

do I have to separate you guys again???????????????

now stop it, this instant

No problem on my part. I don't like to fight, just engage in fierce debate.

Tim

It shouldn't matter what a player DOES OFF the field for the HOF.

They are going in because of how they played not what they are like as a person.

Remember this is the basketball HOF and not the Citizen of the Year Award.

While that's true, outside character does count for something, which is why you said: "It shouldn't matter...". Unfortunately, it does matter and even great players get left out because of that.

Tim

Originally posted by stkmtimo
While that's true, outside character does count for something, which is why you said: "It shouldn't matter...". Unfortunately, it does matter and even great players get left out because of that.

Tim

But nobody should be denied access to the HOF for having some problems off the field.

Because you have to remember people thought Kirby Puckett was a great guy and recently all this stuff has come out about him. So just because nothing is said about these players doesn't make them a better person than some others.

Tim I must disagreed with that statement, as you know, the HOF would be short of a bunch of yankees, some of those guys had some of the worse off the field antics in the game, which one spit on fans?????????????

I don't want the off the field antics to can't for anything, but unfortunately, they do.

Tim

off-the-field antics should NOT matter.

But what Pete Rose did was not off-the-field.

He bet on baseball while he was a manager. That has EVERYTHING to do with sports.

And who's to say he wasn't betting all those years that he played as a player.

Remember, a gambling addiction doesn't start in ONE day.

It builds up over a lifetime.

Originally posted by gioperation
Tim I must disagreed with that statement, as you know, the HOF would be short of a bunch of yankees, some of those guys had some of the worse off the field antics in the game, which one spit on fans?????????????

I don't think any Yankees HOFamer spit on fans. If they did could somebody please let me know who it was.

Its nice to have very honorable people in the HOF but you can't let that be the deciding factor it determining if someone was great or not.

one of those yankees, I saw a special on espn classic about him awhile back.

Originally posted by gioperation
one of those yankees, I saw a special on espn classic about him awhile back.

Hmm.

That doesn't sound like something George would tolerate. Now I'd really like to find out who did it. I watch a lot of those classic shows and would have remembered that.

it was one of those guys from like the ruth days if I am not mistaken, I will find out, my grandfather was watching with me and said he remembered hearing about that.

Originally posted by gioperation
it was one of those guys from like the ruth days if I am not mistaken, I will find out, my grandfather was watching with me and said he remembered hearing about that.

Okay that makes sense then. George didn't own the team and wasn't even around back then. LOL

Players back then did stuff like that. They attacked fans and fans attacked umpires. Kinda a lot like today. LOL

pwaldo...there was an incident here the other day at Dodger Stadium vs the Rockies.

Was in the 9th inning, with Gagne pitching.

Some fool (apparently drunk), ran out on to the field to greet Brian Jordan.

Jason Romano, just up from the minors and playing CF, ran over, punched the dude, and then body slammed the guy, then stuck him to the ground until security came to left field.

It was sooooo cool....too bad I was watching on TV, and didn't see it; but rather, read it in L.A. Times the next day

LOL! I saw the recap on ESPN, surprised they didn't talk about it.

Tim

they will talk about but just like everything else, if you glorify it more people will want to do it.

That's for sure. More wackos will keep running onto the field attacking players.

Tim

GIoperation --- but man, wouldn't it have been something to see a stupid drunken play punched by a ballplayer, and then body-slammed?

I wished TV would selectively show stuff like fans running on to the field, only to get the sh*t kicked out of him.

again the media usually only portrays the negative image, that is what sells, but not to me...that is why I love shows like living large and mtv cribs, even the a & e biography, and lifestyles of the rich and famous.

My book collection consists of 200 autobiographies and the one I liked the best were donald trump and mike shanahan, coach of the broncos...

I like watching the Discovery channel, esp. their portrayals of crime and punishment --- very well done!!