whod do you think was better Jordan than or Kobe now

Without a doubt it's Jordan of old.

lol at jordan 3 kobe 0

Kobe puts up a fight but Jordan then was much better

No Brainer


MJ

Id have to take Jordan over Kobe by a thread.

jordan

nobody can dethrone His Airness... sorry Kobe

Without a doubt....Jordan

Jordan is a no brainer who voted for Kobe

i know i think that jordan was better but kobe pulls a good arguement and finn how many points do you expect to get out of your own posts you reply to your own atleast twice for every new thread you have

jordan back in his day could have beat anyone in his path NOONE CAN STOP HIM

wow, almost everyone picked Jordan over Kobe. Well, I beg to differ.

B/c Jordan had bigger hands, he could do more things creatively with the basketball (Kobe can't palm a ball).

However, have you guys been watching the playoffs for the last 3 years?!?!?

Kobe singlehandedly destroyed San Antonio in 2000 (when S.A. had homecourt advantage); and how about that FANTASTIC rebound and put-back in closing seconds of game 3 (I think) in 2000

Not to mention that he is JUST as good as Jordan at taking the last shot of the ballgame.

I choose Kobe.

Originally posted by podstock
wow, almost everyone picked Jordan over Kobe. Well, I beg to differ.

B/c Jordan had bigger hands, he could do more things creatively with the basketball (Kobe can't palm a ball).

However, have you guys been watching the playoffs for the last 3 years?!?!?

Kobe singlehandedly destroyed San Antonio in 2000 (when S.A. had homecourt advantage); and how about that FANTASTIC rebound and put-back in closing seconds of game 3 (I think) in 2000

Not to mention that he is JUST as good as Jordan at taking the last shot of the ballgame.

I choose Kobe.

I agree but I don't think that Kobe will be ever considered better than Jordan by the general public even though he probably will be. Jordan was the first of his kind, especially with all the marketing that he did. Players can/will be better than Jordan but will never get the credit.

Here is the ultimate problem in the Kobe vs. Jordan debate: Shaquille O'Neal.

Jordan had to do everything himself. Only when he had Scottie, Horace, Kukoc, etc., was he able to "relax" a bit.

Kobe has Shaq in his prime. Shaq is unstoppable (only the toe stops Shaq).

So Kobe mostly defers to Shaq, b/c the triangle offense, as devised, is meant to go through the center position.

But this past February, we all saw what Kobe could do if the team is built around him.

The Lakers of the past 3 years are built around Shaq --- pass him the ball, wait for double and triple teams, then Shaq passes ball back to an open player.

Neither Fox, Fisher, Horry, et.al. are good at penetrating, stopping, and shooting. Only Kobe can do that. The other players are MUCH MUCH better set shooters.

As the years go by, we will see who's better. Right now, Kobe a 24 has hit just as many big shots, and made just as many big plays in clutch situations in the play-offs, as Jordan has.

I'd dare say Kobe has done more than Jordan at 24 (granted, Kobe came straight to NBA, and has Shaq).

I chose Jordan b/c he came first and was just plain awesome. If you ask this question in 3 years it might be Kobe but I'm not Miss Cleo so I can't tell you that for sure

Originally posted by podstock
wow, almost everyone picked Jordan over Kobe. Well, I beg to differ.

B/c Jordan had bigger hands, he could do more things creatively with the basketball (Kobe can't palm a ball).

However, have you guys been watching the playoffs for the last 3 years?!?!?

Kobe singlehandedly destroyed San Antonio in 2000 (when S.A. had homecourt advantage); and how about that FANTASTIC rebound and put-back in closing seconds of game 3 (I think) in 2000

Not to mention that he is JUST as good as Jordan at taking the last shot of the ballgame.

I choose Kobe.




ya dont take away things from jordan thats a good thing he can palm the ball and have you seen all the last second shots jordan has made

Even putting up a question like that is almost a disgrace to MJ

I'll take 1992 Jordan vs. anyone from any period in time, and I'm a Barkley fan.

i put kobe cant stand jordan

Jordan and it's not even close... anyone that votes for Kobe is a true homer.

Athletically they're very similar, but Jordan had ALL the intangibles.

nobody can stand mj not even himself (lol made no sense)
so its definitely jordan how dare you put those two names comparing eachother....
Kobe Still has a way to go and im a Kobe Fan lol

Jordan, single handedly lead his team to championships. Pippen is nowhere near what Shaq was to Kobe.

Well that depends lets see if Shaq ends up being one of the top 50 greatest players of all time.... i think pippen was just in the shadow of mj but that was shaq's all....

i put kobe cant stand jordan

are you kidding me? you cant stand jordan yet you would rather choose a guy who runs people out of LA (malone, phil jackson, SHAQ?) Cheats of his wife and expects everything to resume as planned, cant win without shaq in town? please let us all know your logic behind this situation.

are you kidding me? you cant stand jordan yet you would rather choose a guy who runs people out of LA (malone, phil jackson, SHAQ?) Cheats of his wife and expects everything to resume as planned, cant win without shaq in town? please let us all know your logic behind this situation.

don't forget Gary Payton, he didn't want to stay there either

Forget the mistakes Kobe has made for one minute. If he was still a highly respected figure in the NBA I think this poll would be a little more even. Alot of it is based on bad feelings towards Bryant. Fans do it, players do it, and the media does it. They all don't give credit where it's due. ON THE COURT!

To say Kobe couldn't win championships without Shaq is probably true for the team they had. But come on....Shaq couldn't win championships in L.A.without Kobe either. That's a fact. Also Kobe would never win a scoring title with O'Neal there. He can do it now.

MJ right now was better. As far as a whole career. One on one who knows. Kobe's young a he's a warrioir. He can bring rings back to L.A. If he hits six, then its a hard arguement.

DUH DUH DUH ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yea i like Kobe and i still think he has a way to go before catching up to Mj's superioty

DUH DUH DUH ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What exactly do you mean by this??

Its a song lol by Queen im listening to Pantheres Card Website

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS(PAUSE) NO TIME FOR LOSERS BECAUSE WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS(PAUSE) OF THE WORLD

Its a song lol by Queen im listening to Pantheres Card Website

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS(PAUSE) NO TIME FOR LOSERS BECAUSE WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS(PAUSE) OF THE WORLD


Yeah, I know it's a Queen song. Just didn't get what the meaning was behind it.

LOL to you kinda was random huh????

absolutely jordan, by a mile,

Forget the mistakes Kobe has made for one minute. If he was still a highly respected figure in the NBA I think this poll would be a little more even. Alot of it is based on bad feelings towards Bryant. Fans do it, players do it, and the media does it. They all don't give credit where it's due. ON THE COURT!

To say Kobe couldn't win championships without Shaq is probably true for the team they had. But come on....Shaq couldn't win championships in L.A.without Kobe either. That's a fact. Also Kobe would never win a scoring title with O'Neal there. He can do it now.

MJ right now was better. As far as a whole career. One on one who knows. Kobe's young a he's a warrioir. He can bring rings back to L.A. If he hits six, then its a hard arguement.

i would have to disagree completly... you say shaq couldnt win championships either.. true.. but we arent comparing shaq and kobe.. is is MJ and Kobe and MJ in his prime could have taken any team to the finals. One on one wouldnt be a question... Kobe would be left finding his jock when MJ got done with him. I would also disagree with your first paragraph... no one wants to play with kobe which will in turn hurt his career. Iverson is in the same boat... no one GOOD wants to play with iverson bedcause you will have trouble finding shots etc... Look at how the lakers are doing this year.. i am not sure but i think they are around 8th place... how are the heat doing? and sure the heat have wade, haslim, eddie jones but kobe still has mihm, butler... a true champion has to carry the team which jordan did EVERY YEAR.
i voted on this 2 years ago before the whole rape/teammates thing ever came out and still said jordan by a mile

I'm one of Kobe's biggest fans but Jordan is better. I have no doubt that Kobe will be a legend in his own right some day.

if u forget all the off court stuff of both players. a true basketball fan would undoubtedly choose jordan.

for some time i absolutely hated jordan. i remembered watching bulls games and i couldn't understand how one player was so good. it was almost unfair how he took over a game.

but now when i watch kobe and his entire game it makes me sick. he brings up the ball and always ends up shooting it only to use his teammates as screens. don't get me wrong he is a very skillful player and to be honest is the only player that today resembles jordan the most. regardlesss of all the titles he has now and the possible titles in the future. he will never be as good until he can control a game the way jordan. did he should never even be considered on the same level.

btw...
pippen and shaq are both considered a part of the 50 greatest players so they can cancel each other out. (although shaq is a very unique player)

Jordan was just the better all around player. He was always able to get his teammates involved. Jordan never had anyone like shaq at his side. And you know if jordan would've never left the nba, without a doubt he definately would've had 7 or 8 rings. Imagine if jordan had Patrick Ewing as a center, they probably would've won like 12 championships. Kobe had shaq and could only manage to 3rings. Look at kobe now, yea he's a great individual player but he's not a team player! They won't even make it to the playoffs this year. When jordan left the nba, scottie pippen even got the bulls to the playoffs with out jordan, and kobe can't even get his team to the playoffs this year. Yea kobe is still young, but he's no jordan.

are you kidding me? you cant stand jordan yet you would rather choose a guy who runs people out of LA (malone, phil jackson, SHAQ?) Cheats of his wife and expects everything to resume as planned, cant win without shaq in town? please let us all know your logic behind this situation.

well no offense, but jordan didnt always get along with his teamates either, the whole deal with cartwright is one that i remember, and jordan also cheated on his wife, the guy was having an affair with the same woman for years, not just a one night stand like kobe, with that said, i voted for jordan because he is greatest for a reason

well no offense, but jordan didnt always get along with his teamates either, the whole deal with cartwright is one that i remember, and jordan also cheated on his wife, the guy was having an affair with the same woman for years, not just a one night stand like kobe, with that said, i voted for jordan because he is greatest for a reason

never said jordan didnt get along with teammates etc.. but people still wanted to play with him. I believe, and this is just my opinion but players respected jordan even when he got on them because what he was doing (to players etc... were to get better..... sure cheating on his wife was the wrong thing to do (obviously) but we take ALL the outside stuff away and look at michael vs kobe i would take MJ ANYDAY...

btw...
pippen and shaq are both considered a part of the 50 greatest players so they can cancel each other out. (although shaq is a very unique player)

no... they are the 50 greatest... no one would put pippen in the same class as shaq. look at it this way.. what did pippen do in portland after he left the bulls and what has shaq done in miami without kobe? completely different

tutall-
without a doubt shaq is much more valuable and superior to pippen. i just meant to say that they both had help in winning championships. i remember some guy saying that only 1 of them was a part of the 50 greatest. although neither player can win one without their respective counter part (mj/kobe). it would have been interesting to see if jordan could win one without pippen and if shaq can win one without kobe. although my bet is on mj.