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Jerry Jones exposed as gutless by Goodell's ruling

by Ian O'Connor

All these years later, Jerry Jones finally got what was coming to him.

Roger Goodell emasculated Jones the way the Dallas Cowboys' owner once emasculated Tom Landry.

Goodell exposed Jones as a gutless wonder, as a leader afraid to lead. By suspending Pacman Jones for at least four games, the NFL commissioner was only doing what the Dallas owner was terrified of doing.
The right thing.

Of course Jerry Jones never should've hired Pacman Jones in the first place. It didn't matter whether a blindfolded Pacman could've shut down Jerry Rice and Lynn Swann in their primes (and nobody suggested that he could); the guy was a serial troublemaker bound to deliver more pain than gain.

Pacman had been suspended for all of 2007, but Jerry Jones couldn't resist. He thought the New York Giants stole a Super Bowl season last year that was rightfully his, and he was willing to do anything to get it back.

Including covering for a cover man who wasn't worth covering for.
No felony, no foul, was the owner's pathetic ruling on Pacman's fight with a member of the Cowboys' security detail assigned to track his every off-field step. Jones dismissed the incident at a Dallas hotel as "a personal thing" that was "resolved in a personal manner."

In other words, like the book title says, Boys will be Boys.

Jones figured if he closed his eyes hard enough, he'd make the police who were called to the scene go poof in the night. Only Goodell wasn't about to be played for a fool, not the way Pacman played the Cowboys' owner for a fool.

The commissioner had reinstated the cornerback only six weeks ago, with a list of conditions tethered to him like a towel to a receiver's belt. Goodell dispatched his investigators to Dallas to hunt down the truth.

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Guy should already be Cut

I think he was trying to hold onto him until newman got back.

first, you're not allowed to post entire articles...copyright infringement

second, pacman didn't violate any team rules, so what exactly would Jerry Jones suspend him for? If this wasn't pacman, this would've never even made it out to the public...the "offense" is hardly suspension worthy!

Pacman is an idiot regardless, but what would you do if you had 4 babysitters following you around 24 hours a day? Jerry Jones probably realized he's partly to blame for this incident...

I agree . . . i don't think this is a big deal at all.

first, you're not allowed to post entire articles...copyright infringement



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Jones gave him the chance but Goodell allowed him back in so it should be up to the commisioner to hand out the consequences. Hopefully Pacman heads to rehab during his time away and can rejoin the team later on w/ a new perspective.

Jones didn't suspend Pacman because he didn't violate any team rules. I can see why he traded for Pacman in the first place, and to be honest, I think Jones felt that his organization has done well as far as helping players stay in line. Has anyone heard anything about Tank Johnson getting into trouble? No.

first, you're not allowed to post entire articles...copyright infringement

second, pacman didn't violate any team rules, so what exactly would Jerry Jones suspend him for? If this wasn't pacman, this would've never even made it out to the public...the "offense" is hardly suspension worthy!

Pacman is an idiot regardless, but what would you do if you had 4 babysitters following you around 24 hours a day? Jerry Jones probably realized he's partly to blame for this incident...

You are missing the whole point and you answered your own question, he has 4 babysitters because he is an idiot. Jerry Jones was looking for trouble, knew that Adam Jones violated his conditions for reinstatement, and refused to do anything about it.

You're fogetting, Goddell reinstated Jones based upon certain terms that Pacman AGREED to, nobody held a gun to his head, he AGREED.

I suppose that someone who is on parole which is essentially what Jones was on, and violates that parole, should be judged on the seriousness of the offense? A violation is a violation, period.

Cowboys hater are going to hate...PERIOD.
Adam Jones is as immature and hard-headed as they come, but blaming Jerry Jones is ridiculous. And I agree that if this weren't PacMan, this incident wouldn't make a blip on the media's RADAR.

Cowboys hater are going to hate...PERIOD.
Adam Jones is as immature and hard-headed as they come, but blaming Jerry Jones is ridiculous. And I agree that if this weren't PacMan, this incident wouldn't make a blip on the media's RADAR.

Funny thing is, I'm not a Cowboy hater, I like the team and some of its players. Who is the one that brought Jones to Dallas? Jerry Jones, I doubt the team or the coaches went to Jerry and told him the team absolutely had to have Pacman. Therefore, Jerry Jones should accept the responsibility whether Pacman is a success or failure.

Jerry Jones is a tool. It proves that all the money in the world can't win a Super Bowl. Just ask the Redskins.

Really can't believe some you guys supporting the Jones'. Pacman came to Dallas with no leash what so ever. He has a alcohol problem and is a disgrace to the NFL. He screwed up AGAIN and Jerry Jones should have already cut the guy. I didn't mind us trying him out but he had zero room for error just like Tank Johnson (haven't heard a peep from him). As eager as Jerry was to bring him in here he should be just as eager to let him go. This whole he wasn't arrested, didn't violate team rules thing is a joke. If this guy were on the Giants he would have been cut 2 days ago because they have team discipline and we have none. Of course he has people watching him, his been arrested 20 times and plays for Dallas. If Ted Bundy gets out of jail people better be watching him 24/7 just like Pacman and if Bundy beats someone up but doesn't kill them he better go back to jail anyway. We have no CB depth and Jerry wasn't man enough to cut him. Embarrassed to be a Cowboy fan this week.

Jerry Jones is a tool. It proves that all the money in the world can't win a Super Bowl. Just ask the Redskins.



The real question is does anybody really care about this story in general. The good thing is they get the Titans 5th round choice and are out from the contract so JJ is not out anything at the end of the day. The only thing is he could have address that postion with a different player in the off season but he played with house money and lost. Not out a penny except the 4 game checks he got. SO for the one poster to say all the money can't win the Superbowl makes no sense. NFL has salary cap so how rich you are means nothing.... Not like Baseball with the Sox and Yankees buying everything under the sun.

I'm pretty sure every NFL team has personal conduct rules just like the NFL offices do. So imo he did break a team rule/policy. Last time I checked bringing negative attention to yourself and your TEAM is a bad thing.

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You are missing the whole point and you answered your own question, he has 4 babysitters because he is an idiot. Jerry Jones was looking for trouble, knew that Adam Jones violated his conditions for reinstatement, and refused to do anything about it.

You're fogetting, Goddell reinstated Jones based upon certain terms that Pacman AGREED to, nobody held a gun to his head, he AGREED.

I suppose that someone who is on parole which is essentially what Jones was on, and violates that parole, should be judged on the seriousness of the offense? A violation is a violation, period.

no, you're missing the point...first, jerry jones wasn't looking for trouble, he was looking to improve his secondary...second, pacman did not violate any team rules...so there was no cause for him to suspend pacman...it wasn't on jerry, it was on goody...

also, it's quite interesting that you bring up the parole violation analogy, because yes, that's exactly what happens...you are judged on the seriousness of the offense...and seeing that pacman IS on parole, and his parole officer has decided NOT to violate him, well i think that Goody is again flexing his muscle for the masses to stare in awe...I long for the days of Tagliabue

Funny thing is, I'm not a Cowboy hater, I like the team and some of its players. Who is the one that brought Jones to Dallas? Jerry Jones, I doubt the team or the coaches went to Jerry and told him the team absolutely had to have Pacman. Therefore, Jerry Jones should accept the responsibility whether Pacman is a success or failure.

Funny thing is...my comment was directed at you directly. I was typing my response before your entry posted.
Anyway, I'm on the side of the fence that Jones didn't coverup anything, and he shouldn't be called out for trying to protect his ball-club and franchise.
I'm also on the side of the fence that it's Goodell's position to punish Adam Jones. Jerry is in a tough division and has a banged up secondary, he needed to keep Adam Jones active for as long as he could.

I totally agree, Pacman got in trouble after he agreed he would not, Jerry Jones tried to get away by not suspending him, because he would rather win then follow the leauge rules.

A good example is Golden State, suspended their best player, because he violated the rules....as did Pacman.

I don't know the details of the Golden State suspension, but I'm curious.
How many games out of their 80+ game season was their star suspended?

I don't know the details of the Golden State suspension, but I'm curious.
How many games out of their 80+ game season was their star suspended?

IDK like 30 games I think.

If that's the number, then I'm impressed/shocked. He must've really done something harsh. Normally NBA only suspends 2-5 games for offenses.

If that's the number, then I'm impressed/shocked. He must've really done something harsh. Normally NBA only suspends 2-5 games for offenses.


Yes thats the number, but do be honest I dont get what he did to violate the contract. From what I heard he "faked" an injury.

Just googled and you are correct on the games. Couldnt find what the infraction was in my brief search.

Moped accident, then lied about it to the team.

But I digress (sp)...Jones is a businessman and ensured he got every penny's-worth outta PacMan before the league took their pound-of-flesh.

no, you're missing the point...first, jerry jones wasn't looking for trouble, he was looking to improve his secondary...second, pacman did not violate any team rules...so there was no cause for him to suspend pacman...it wasn't on jerry, it was on goody...

also, it's quite interesting that you bring up the parole violation analogy, because yes, that's exactly what happens...you are judged on the seriousness of the offense...and seeing that pacman IS on parole, and his parole officer has decided NOT to violate him, well i think that Goody is again flexing his muscle for the masses to stare in awe...I long for the days of Tagliabue

Regarding a parole violation, you are not judged by the seriousness of the offense, if you violate your parole, you violate it period.

I suppose you think its ok for guys like Chris Henry, Pacman Jones, and other knuckleheads to play football no matter what they do. Normal people would be in jail for what they've done, yet these clowns get chance after chance after chance. Frankly it makes me sick.

Regarding a parole violation, you are not judged by the seriousness of the offense, if you violate your parole, you violate it period.

I suppose you think its ok for guys like Chris Henry, Pacman Jones, and other knuckleheads to play football no matter what they do. Normal people would be in jail for what they've done, yet these clowns get chance after chance after chance. Frankly it makes me sick.


Exactly, its special treatment. Wat can you do.

did you guys know chris henry and pacman were college roommates.


ha ha

Funny thing is...my comment was directed at you directly. I was typing my response before your entry posted.
Anyway, I'm on the side of the fence that Jones didn't coverup anything, and he shouldn't be called out for trying to protect his ball-club and franchise.
I'm also on the side of the fence that it's Goodell's position to punish Adam Jones. Jerry is in a tough division and has a banged up secondary, he needed to keep Adam Jones active for as long as he could.

I understand your position, but Jerry Jones should have realized that this would get out and scrutinized by everyone including Goodell. If Jones was smart, he would have come out against Pacman's behavior instead of downplaying it. Maybe Jerry could have imposed a 1 or 2 game suspension by the team instead of letting Goodell impose punishment.

Exactly, its special treatment. Wat can you do.

did you guys know chris henry and pacman were college roommates.


ha ha

I know, not surprising

I know, not surprising


lol.

You are missing the whole point and you answered your own question, he has 4 babysitters because he is an idiot. Jerry Jones was looking for trouble, knew that Adam Jones violated his conditions for reinstatement, and refused to do anything about it.

You're fogetting, Goddell reinstated Jones based upon certain terms that Pacman AGREED to, nobody held a gun to his head, he AGREED.

I suppose that someone who is on parole which is essentially what Jones was on, and violates that parole, should be judged on the seriousness of the offense? A violation is a violation, period.

i agree with your point except the highlighted portion. He is a football player and the only thing he knows right now is football, so in essence he had no choice, and at this point in juncture other jobs were not an option.

Regarding a parole violation, you are not judged by the seriousness of the offense, if you violate your parole, you violate it period.

I suppose you think its ok for guys like Chris Henry, Pacman Jones, and other knuckleheads to play football no matter what they do. Normal people would be in jail for what they've done, yet these clowns get chance after chance after chance. Frankly it makes me sick.

you're not serious are you??? do you really not understand my position that much? or are you just one of those guys that hates pacman so much, that you stopped thinking rationally?

let me say this clearly one more time...Pacman is a freaking idiot!!! there, you happy?

Now, Chris Henry was CLEARED in court this spring...in case you're wondering, CLEARED means NOT GUILTY...yet he still served a 4 game suspension...why? let me guess...guilty until proven innocent right? if that's the case, then he needs to start treating other players like that...

Pacman has not even been CHARGED with a crime, nor has his PAROLE been violated....nothing...so why shouldn't he be able to play? Oh that's right, he made an agreement with Goody that said he couldn't drink...so bam, 4 game suspension...but this thread is about Jerry Jones not doing Goody's dirty work, and frankly, he had no reason to suspend Pacman...Pacman's agreement was with Goody, not Jerry Jones

Yes thats the number, but do be honest I dont get what he did to violate the contract. From what I heard he "faked" an injury.

lol, wow, where do you get your sources from? he didn't fake an injury, he lied about an injury. He said he got hurt in a pickup game but it was discovered he was hurt using a moped. And you can't compare that incident to this. For 1, Monta Ellis lied about how he got hurt, and it went against his contract. Pacman did not break anything in regards to his original contract as far as team rules, which is why Jones didn't suspend him.

Sometimes you need to do the obvious

lol, wow, where do you get your sources from? he didn't fake an injury, he lied about an injury. He said he got hurt in a pickup game but it was discovered he was hurt using a moped. And you can't compare that incident to this. For 1, Monta Ellis lied about how he got hurt, and it went against his contract. Pacman did not break anything in regards to his original contract as far as team rules, which is why Jones didn't suspend him.

Same difference

Same difference


Not really. Did you not read what I posted? Jones didn't suspend Pacman because he didn't violate team rules. The NFL suspended him for violating his agreement, which doesn't concern his contract with the Cowboys. Whereas Monta Ellis did break the the team contract, and lied about it.

Sometimes you need to do the obvious

I honestly don't know why they got Pacman in the first place. Henry and Newman were good, and adding Jenkins and developing him will go a long way. Pacman has proven to be nothing bu a distraction.

you're not serious are you??? do you really not understand my position that much? or are you just one of those guys that hates pacman so much, that you stopped thinking rationally?

let me say this clearly one more time...Pacman is a freaking idiot!!! there, you happy?

Now, Chris Henry was CLEARED in court this spring...in case you're wondering, CLEARED means NOT GUILTY...yet he still served a 4 game suspension...why? let me guess...guilty until proven innocent right? if that's the case, then he needs to start treating other players like that...

Pacman has not even been CHARGED with a crime, nor has his PAROLE been violated....nothing...so why shouldn't he be able to play? Oh that's right, he made an agreement with Goody that said he couldn't drink...so bam, 4 game suspension...but this thread is about Jerry Jones not doing Goody's dirty work, and frankly, he had no reason to suspend Pacman...Pacman's agreement was with Goody, not Jerry Jones

I throw it right back at you, are you serious?!? Chris Henry? That guy is the biggest tool around, I suppose you've overlooked his other multiple arrests and convictions. I guess Pacman didn't have anything to do with someone getting shot and paralyzed.

No I don't hate Pacman, couldn't care less, but I'm amazed that people ignore what they've done and seem to think what they've done is ok. Are the Cowboys not part of the NFL? Is Jerry Jones not the owner of an NFL team and represented by Goody? In the Bears SB year, they suspended Tank Johnson, not the NFL even though Tank didn't violate any team rules, he broke the law. The Bears jumped in, even though they didn't have to and suspended him, not the NFL.

I throw it right back at you, are you serious?!? Chris Henry? That guy is the biggest tool around, I suppose you've overlooked his other multiple arrests and convictions. I guess Pacman didn't have anything to do with someone getting shot and paralyzed.

No I don't hate Pacman, couldn't care less, but I'm amazed that people ignore what they've done and seem to think what they've done is ok. Are the Cowboys not part of the NFL? Is Jerry Jones not the owner of an NFL team and represented by Goody? In the Bears SB year, they suspended Tank Johnson, not the NFL even though Tank didn't violate any team rules, he broke the law. The Bears jumped in, even though they didn't have to and suspended him, not the NFL.

I've never claimed they were saints...I've blasted both of them for their actions...Chris Henry getting arrested with his own jersey on? lol...and hopping out of a limo to toss his heater down a drain pipe...lol again...these guys are freaking morons at best

But still, you are missing the point...Pacman was suspended for an entire season for his actions, and Chris Henry missed 8 games last year for his actions...they have both been punished already...I suppose you think it's okay to keep suspending them based on things they've already been punished for? I'll remind you again that Chris Henry missed the first 4 games of this season for an incident in which the legal system cleared him of any wrongdoing...Pacman is now going to miss 4 games for an incident in which he hasnt even been charged with a crime or had his probation violated...all i'm saying is Goody has a double standard...He's suspending these guys even though our criminal justice system hasn't, yet he hasn't done the same to Matt Jones or Nick Kaczur....why doesn't he just suspend Larry Johnson for being charged with assault on a woman for the third time since he's been in the NFL??? Why didn't he suspend Cedric Benson for getting 2 DUI's within a month? Turns out he had his charges dropped too...How about suspending Marvin Harrison for owning a gun that shot somebody??? Double standards...

so i'll ask again...Are you really not getting my point? or are you just so disgusted with pacman so much that anybody who even remotely tries to defend them is completely wrong?

I honestly don't know why they got Pacman in the first place. Henry and Newman were good, and adding Jenkins and developing him will go a long way. Pacman has proven to be nothing bu a distraction.


I'll tell ya why, we've become the freakin Yankees....drafted Jenkins and Scandrick....only reason I was ok with it is because he didn't cost us anything...ya he's just bad pub now

I'll tell ya why, we've become the freakin Yankees....drafted Jenkins and Scandrick....only reason I was ok with it is because he didn't cost us anything...ya he's just bad pub now

Don't know about that man. They've drafted great this decade, and really only went out and spent money on T.O. I mean, Romo was on the team for many years and got an extension. Barber was a diamond in the rough, whereby no one really knew he was that much of a force. Ware, Newman, Spears, and Roy Williams have all been building blocks to that D. I think Jerry Jones did the right thing as far as the Pacman deal, it won't cost them that much. I heard they are going to be fined 20K for each game he misses :frusty:

In the Bears SB year, they suspended Tank Johnson, not the NFL even though Tank didn't violate any team rules, he broke the law. The Bears jumped in, even though they didn't have to and suspended him, not the NFL.

Is Adam Jones being charged with a crime related to the latest incident, or are you referring to his past incidents? Btw, I thought those charges had been dropped.
Maybe I'm un-informed. I don't read all the articles, only catch the stories on ESPN.

Thanks...

Is Adam Jones being charged with a crime related to the latest incident, or are you referring to his past incidents? Btw, I thought those charges had been dropped.
Maybe I'm un-informed. I don't read all the articles, only catch the stories on ESPN.

Thanks...


Same Here........
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All files were dropped, and IMO, the suspension was not needed. If his name was Robert Johnson, he wouldn't of been suspended. His name is Adam Jones, so he is suspended for 4+ games for getting in a fight that his body guard tempted. Honestly, I really don't care for the most part since I'm not a big Pacman fan. He's a good tackler, decent in coverage, and a pretty poor kick returner so far.

Don't know about that man. They've drafted great this decade, and really only went out and spent money on T.O. I mean, Romo was on the team for many years and got an extension. Barber was a diamond in the rough, whereby no one really knew he was that much of a force. Ware, Newman, Spears, and Roy Williams have all been building blocks to that D. I think Jerry Jones did the right thing as far as the Pacman deal, it won't cost them that much. I heard they are going to be fined 20K for each game he misses :frusty:



Ahh whats 20K when you have 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS

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All files were dropped, and IMO, the suspension was not needed. If his name was Robert Johnson, he wouldn't of been suspended. His name is Adam Jones, so he is suspended for 4+ games for getting in a fight that his body guard tempted. Honestly, I really don't care for the most part since I'm not a big Pacman fan. He's a good tackler, decent in coverage, and a pretty poor kick returner so far.


:frusty: That is why he was suspended because his name is Pacman Jones and he's been arrested 10 times already. Robert Johnson would be a first time offender. If Chris Henry pimp slaps a hoe on the corner he'll get suspended too.

Ahh whats 20K when you have 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS

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:sign0020::sign0020: True that

If his name was Robert Johnson, he wouldn't of been suspended.

Hey, that's my brother...

Robert Johnson would be a first time offender.

Everyone needs to stop including my brother is this conversation...:winking0071: