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RenegadeLonghorn
10-19-2008, 02:51 PM
is the 2008 Dallas Cowboys. They won't even make the playoffs this year. Yeah, I said it. Mark it down.

dfr52
10-19-2008, 02:53 PM
is the 2008 Dallas Cowboys. They won't even make the playoffs this year. Yeah, I said it. Mark it down.

If they keep playing unmotivated football I sadly agree.

#11 Roy Williams
10-19-2008, 02:53 PM
If they keep playing unmotivated football I sadly agree.

QFT :smash:

garnett_21
10-19-2008, 02:54 PM
Probably not - the are in a tough division, and if they can't stop the lowly Rams, they won't make the playoffs....Redskins, Eagles, Giants and Cowboys all could make the playoffs - as of now, Cowboys are the odd-man out.

RenegadeLonghorn
10-19-2008, 02:55 PM
If they keep playing unmotivated football I sadly agree.

They will keep playing unmotivated because it comes straight from the head coach.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/image/2008/01/13/op71-2915.jpg


Lets face it Cowboys fans. Jerry Jones has forever cursed us when he fired Jimmy Johnson.

#11 Roy Williams
10-19-2008, 02:56 PM
Even after we lose today, we'll still be in third place. An ugly third place, but a third place all the same and top 3 team from this division will probably make it. Still a long season ahead of us, but it isn't looking pretty. Hopefully Wade Phillips and maybe the Defensive Coordinators go today if we lose.

uptonfan1
10-19-2008, 02:56 PM
is the 2008 Dallas Cowboys. They won't even make the playoffs this year. Yeah, I said it. Mark it down.

QFT unfortunatley

at least texas is #1

dfr52
10-19-2008, 03:01 PM
Even after we lose today, we'll still be in third place. An ugly third place, but a third place all the same and top 3 team from this division will probably make it. Still a long season ahead of us, but it isn't looking pretty. Hopefully Wade Phillips and maybe the Defensive Coordinators go today if we lose.

I'd add Garrett to that list as well right now (I know you can't cut an entire coaching staff) because no one is looking good.:rant:

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 03:01 PM
You know honestly, all i can say is everyone hear that is a "diehart" cowboy fan obviously isnt, your team is 1,000,000 times better than the Lions ever will be/are and you are all jumping off the bandwagon because Romo isnt playing 1 game. YES 1 GAME! theres 16 games in a season and the other 2 divisions wont take a wildcard spot, the south is a joke, and the north is as well, thats a 8-8 record type of division, so all the cowboys need is a 3rd place finish in the division, shouldnt be that hard, already 4 wins so get another 4 and they probably get in.

and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan

RenegadeLonghorn
10-19-2008, 03:08 PM
You know honestly, all i can say is everyone hear that is a "diehart" cowboy fan obviously isnt, your team is 1,000,000 times better than the Lions ever will be/are and you are all jumping off the bandwagon because Romo isnt playing 1 game. YES 1 GAME! theres 16 games in a season and the other 2 divisions wont take a wildcard spot, the south is a joke, and the north is as well, thats a 8-8 record type of division, so all the cowboys need is a 3rd place finish in the division, shouldnt be that hard, already 4 wins so get another 4 and they probably get in.

and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan

I'll always be a loyal Cowboys fan. I don't need that questioned by anyone. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend we're winning the Super Bowl and let this crappy play slide by. We're about to be 4-3...and we barely beat the Eagles and Bengals. We could easily be 2-5.

Diehard fans are the ones who speak out.

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 03:10 PM
I'll always be a loyal Cowboys fan. I don't need that questioned by anyone. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend we're winning the Super Bowl and let this crappy play slide by. We're about to be 4-3...and we barely beat the Eagles and Bengals. We could easily be 2-5.

I'm just saying, you dont sound very loyal right now, wouldnt you rather have a struggle in the regular season and finish strong going into the playoffs? every team has struggles, its natural, but you shouldnt call for this person or that person to get fired. on paper the Rams arent really that bad, Bulger has been great in the past, Steven Jackson is amazing, & Holt is still a great reciever

it's funny, this was almost like the Giants season last year when everyone wanted the coach fired, i forgot how that turned out? oh yea a superbowl!

hector234
10-19-2008, 03:17 PM
I'm just saying, you dont sound very loyal right now, wouldnt you rather have a struggle in the regular season and finish strong going into the playoffs? every team has struggles, its natural, but you shouldnt call for this person or that person to get fired. on paper the Rams arent really that bad, Bulger has been great in the past, Steven Jackson is amazing, & Holt is still a great reciever

it's funny, this was almost like the Giants season last year when everyone wanted the coach fired, i forgot how that turned out? oh yea a superbowl!


Loyal? Dude, he's just expressing how he feels about the situation. He didn't come on here and said he was rooting for another team, he said his current team is not playing to the potential it can play at.

dfr52
10-19-2008, 03:18 PM
I'll always be a loyal Cowboys fan. I don't need that questioned by anyone. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend we're winning the Super Bowl and let this crappy play slide by. We're about to be 4-3...and we barely beat the Eagles and Bengals. We could easily be 2-5.

Diehard fans are the ones who speak out.

I agree. Diehard fans usually are much harder on their teams than a casual fan. I'd rather be realistic than have my head in the clouds thinking everything is fine.

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 03:21 PM
Loyal? Dude, he's just expressing how he feels about the situation. He didn't come on here and said he was rooting for another team, he said his current team is not playing to the potential it can play at.

If you read in full context, you'd know i said its not loyal when you call that everyone needs to be fired, and that they wont make the playoffs. I am a Eagles fan, i am a fan when they are good and when they are bad, if they have a bad game its not the end of the world, this is football, its a game of a bunch of babies getting overpaid. everyone makes it seem like its the end of the world if there team doesnt win the Super Bowl

& for everyone who says Wade should get fired, let me ask you. are you ever going to be able to do better than him? NO WAY!!!

I can't even imagine all the things a head coach does to prepare for 1 game

garnett_21
10-19-2008, 03:21 PM
I agree. Diehard fans usually are much harder on their teams than a casual fan. I'd rather be realistic than have my head in the clouds thinking everything is fine.
I'm with ya there - don't get me started on the Vikings ;-)

uptonfan1
10-19-2008, 03:23 PM
If you read in full context, you'd know i said its not loyal when you call that everyone needs to be fired, and that they wont make the playoffs. I am a Eagles fan, i am a fan when they are good and when they are bad, if they have a bad game its not the end of the world, this is football, its a game of a bunch of babies getting overpaid. everyone makes it seem like its the end of the world if there team doesnt win the Super Bowl

& for everyone who says Wade should get fired, let me ask you. are you ever going to be able to do better than him? NO WAY!!!

I can't even imagine all the things a head coach does to prepare for 1 game

I thought you liked the lions...

#11 Roy Williams
10-19-2008, 03:25 PM
If you read in full context, you'd know i said its not loyal when you call that everyone needs to be fired, and that they wont make the playoffs. I am a Eagles fan, i am a fan when they are good and when they are bad, if they have a bad game its not the end of the world, this is football, its a game of a bunch of babies getting overpaid. everyone makes it seem like its the end of the world if there team doesnt win the Super Bowl

& for everyone who says Wade should get fired, let me ask you. are you ever going to be able to do better than him? NO WAY!!!

I can't even imagine all the things a head coach does to prepare for 1 game

LOL, people who say that make absolutely no sense. Of course we couldn't do a better job, but that's why we aren't in the business. I'm sure Jones could hire someone who could do a ton better then Cheerleader Phillips.

Who said we are jumping ship?! We are expressing how bad the Cowboys are playing. They aren't supposed to be as bad as the Lions because we have more talent. We have high expecatations for our team since we are so talented. I don't think the Lions have high expecations because their 2nd best talent just left their team, and they are left with 10 bad players on offense with 1 good WR.

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 03:25 PM
I'm with ya there - don't get me started on the Vikings ;-)

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I agree. Diehard fans usually are much harder on their teams than a casual fan. I'd rather be realistic than have my head in the clouds thinking everything is fine.

heres a fact, the coach doesnt play!!! its up to the players to perform to there ability!

its not Philips fault that T.O. is aging before our eyes, or that Pac Man is a criminal for life!

blame GM/Owner of the team!


As for Nathan, AP needs to be the leader of the team, and stand up and tell them to give him the ball since the rest of those guys shouldnt be playing on the same field as him :winking0071:

hector234
10-19-2008, 03:26 PM
If you read in full context, you'd know i said its not loyal when you call that everyone needs to be fired, and that they wont make the playoffs. I am a Eagles fan, i am a fan when they are good and when they are bad, if they have a bad game its not the end of the world, this is football, its a game of a bunch of babies getting overpaid. everyone makes it seem like its the end of the world if there team doesnt win the Super Bowl

& for everyone who says Wade should get fired, let me ask you. are you ever going to be able to do better than him? NO WAY!!!

I can't even imagine all the things a head coach does to prepare for 1 game


What is the point of being a fan then? It's not the end of the world, but at the same time, fans are allowed to vent their fustration. You question these Cowboys fans's loyalty beacuse they come out here and are disappointed that their team isn't playing up to their level. But I forgot, you're the guy that cried about the B.R.A.D. threads :pound:

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 03:30 PM
LOL, people who say that make absolutely no sense. Of course we couldn't do a better job, but that's why we aren't in the business. I'm sure Jones could hire someone who could do a ton better then Cheerleader Phillips.

Who said we are jumping ship?! We are expressing how bad the Cowboys are playing. They aren't supposed to be as bad as the Lions because we have more talent. We have high expecatations for our team since we are so talented. I don't think the Lions have high expecations because their 2nd best talent just left their team, and they are left with 10 bad players on offense with 1 good WR.

even though i don't like the Lions because the Owner (Mr. Ford) is dillusional and took him years to fire Millen. they still have a decent team (i use that word very lightly)

your telling me Shaun McDonald & Mike Furrey are awful? What about Kevin Smith, Rudi Johnson? Ernie Sims?

to say they have nothing, is a complete joke. they just dont have players for the system they want to use (Need a QB!!!!!!)

Also, Roy Williams wasnt second best, he is talented, but the man isnt worth a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick! he's not worth a 2nd rounder!

High expectations are fine, but you have a bad game and its the end of the world? 16 games in a season, what do you expect? them to go 16-0? we saw how that turned out for the Pats

garnett_21
10-19-2008, 03:30 PM
As for Nathan, AP needs to be the leader of the team, and stand up and tell them to give him the ball since the rest of those guys shouldnt be playing on the same field as him :winking0071:
Yeah, but that's for another thread - depending on how this game goes, I'll post up my thought (yes, one thought) after the game ends.

dfr52
10-19-2008, 03:31 PM
heres a fact, the coach doesnt play!!! its up to the players to perform to there ability!

its not Philips fault that T.O. is aging before our eyes, or that Pac Man is a criminal for life!

blame GM/Owner of the team!


As for Nathan, AP needs to be the leader of the team, and stand up and tell them to give him the ball since the rest of those guys shouldnt be playing on the same field as him :winking0071:

Head coaches should inspire or motivate to some extent and T.O. has the same ability he started the season with. They need to get the ball to him and Williams.

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 03:33 PM
What is the point of being a fan then? It's not the end of the world, but at the same time, fans are allowed to vent their fustration. You question these Cowboys fans's loyalty beacuse they come out here and are disappointed that their team isn't playing up to their level. But I forgot, you're the guy that cried about the B.R.A.D. threads :pound:

where did i cry? i simply wanted to know whats behind the pointless thread...
and what does that thread have to do with this? you guys arent venting frusterations, your frusterated with the coach? he is a good coach and the coaches on that team are great as well, if you want better one's i urge you to start a petetion

you know, i'm just about done here, theres no point to argue with countless amounts of cowboy fans who are all making bias statements, and you sir are starting to get this into a more personal debate, this isnt the politics & religion forum, if you want to make personal attacks go there

cometmike
10-19-2008, 03:35 PM
You know honestly, all i can say is everyone hear that is a "diehart" cowboy fan obviously isnt, your team is 1,000,000 times better than the Lions ever will be/are and you are all jumping off the bandwagon because Romo isnt playing 1 game. YES 1 GAME! theres 16 games in a season and the other 2 divisions wont take a wildcard spot, the south is a joke, and the north is as well, thats a 8-8 record type of division, so all the cowboys need is a 3rd place finish in the division, shouldnt be that hard, already 4 wins so get another 4 and they probably get in.

and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan


Touche

uptonfan1
10-19-2008, 03:35 PM
even though i don't like the Lions because the Owner (Mr. Ford) is dillusional and took him years to fire Millen. they still have a decent team (i use that word very lightly)

your telling me Shaun McDonald & Mike Furrey are awful? What about Kevin Smith, Rudi Johnson? Ernie Sims?
to say they have nothing, is a complete joke. they just dont have players for the system they want to use (Need a QB!!!!!!)

Also, Roy Williams wasnt second best, he is talented, but the man isnt worth a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick! he's not worth a 2nd rounder!

High expectations are fine, but you have a bad game and its the end of the world? 16 games in a season, what do you expect? them to go 16-0? we saw how that turned out for the Pats


yes, yes, ok, yes, ok

hector234
10-19-2008, 03:38 PM
where did i cry? i simply wanted to know whats behind the pointless thread...
and what does that thread have to do with this? you guys arent venting frusterations, your frusterated with the coach? he is a good coach and the coaches on that team are great as well, if you want better one's i urge you to start a petetion

you know, i'm just about done here, theres no point to argue with countless amounts of cowboy fans who are all making bias statements, and you sir are starting to get this into a more personal debate, this isnt the politics & religion forum, if you want to make personal attacks go there

Sorry kid, im not a Cowboys fan so you failed on that end. And you made this into a "Debate" by questioning people's opinions. Just go back to the baseball forums. Because it looks like you don't really watch football. By the way, it's petition, not petetion.

uptonfan1
10-19-2008, 03:38 PM
where did i cry? i simply wanted to know whats behind the pointless thread...
and what does that thread have to do with this? you guys arent venting frusterations, your frusterated with the coach? he is a good coach and the coaches on that team are great as well, if you want better one's i urge you to start a petetion

you know, i'm just about done here, theres no point to argue with countless amounts of cowboy fans who are all making bias statements, and you sir are starting to get this into a more personal debate, this isnt the politics & religion forum, if you want to make personal attacks go there

you kinda started it

"You know honestly, all i can say is everyone hear that is a "diehart" cowboy fan obviously isnt, your team is 1,000,000 times better than the Lions ever will be/are and you are all jumping off the bandwagon because Romo isnt playing 1 game. YES 1 GAME! theres 16 games in a season and the other 2 divisions wont take a wildcard spot, the south is a joke, and the north is as well, thats a 8-8 record type of division, so all the cowboys need is a 3rd place finish in the division, shouldnt be that hard, already 4 wins so get another 4 and they probably get in.

and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan"

hector234
10-19-2008, 03:40 PM
you kinda started it

"You know honestly, all i can say is everyone hear that is a "diehart" cowboy fan obviously isnt, your team is 1,000,000 times better than the Lions ever will be/are and you are all jumping off the bandwagon because Romo isnt playing 1 game. YES 1 GAME! theres 16 games in a season and the other 2 divisions wont take a wildcard spot, the south is a joke, and the north is as well, thats a 8-8 record type of division, so all the cowboys need is a 3rd place finish in the division, shouldnt be that hard, already 4 wins so get another 4 and they probably get in.

and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan"


Thank you upton

uptonfan1
10-19-2008, 03:41 PM
Thank you upton

You have to love the spelling "diehart" :sign0020:

BoogieDownBerlin
10-19-2008, 03:42 PM
Touche

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cometmike
10-19-2008, 03:43 PM
:sign0020::sign0020::sign0020:

Wade Phillips.........
:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:



........

dfr52
10-19-2008, 03:45 PM
Cowboys fans (myself included) are just venting. Are belief in them is still there but I'm not going to deceive myself and brag that they are going to mount a massive comeback-though I'd like to see one.

#11 Roy Williams
10-19-2008, 03:47 PM
You know honestly, all i can say is everyone hear that is a "diehart" cowboy fan obviously isnt, your team is 1,000,000 times better than the Lions ever will be/are and you are all jumping off the bandwagon because Romo isnt playing 1 game. YES 1 GAME! theres 16 games in a season and the other 2 divisions wont take a wildcard spot, the south is a joke, and the north is as well, thats a 8-8 record type of division, so all the cowboys need is a 3rd place finish in the division, shouldnt be that hard, already 4 wins so get another 4 and they probably get in.

and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan

Do you actually believe the garbage that you are saying is actually correct? Because I'm frustrated that the Cowboys aren't playing to their expectations, I'm suddenly not a fan? I've been a fan of the Cowboys since the Emmitt and Aikman days. LOL, please, stop making an *** of yourself. They are doing poorly, yet I'm still a fan. Once they pick it up, and play like we know they can play, I will still be a fan. According to your terms, since I'm venting on how poorly the Cowboys are playing, I'm no fan. So if I just kept my mouth shut and was ebullient with the way the Cowboys are playing, I would be a true fan? I'd be ignorant is what I would be.

even though i don't like the Lions because the Owner (Mr. Ford) is dillusional and took him years to fire Millen. they still have a decent team (i use that word very lightly)

your telling me Shaun McDonald & Mike Furrey are awful? What about Kevin Smith, Rudi Johnson? Ernie Sims?

to say they have nothing, is a complete joke. they just dont have players for the system they want to use (Need a QB!!!!!!)

Also, Roy Williams wasnt second best, he is talented, but the man isnt worth a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick! he's not worth a 2nd rounder!

High expectations are fine, but you have a bad game and its the end of the world? 16 games in a season, what do you expect? them to go 16-0? we saw how that turned out for the Pats

LOL, if McDonald and Furery and Rudi Johnson are among your teams best players, that shows why the team as 0 wins. I kind of liked Ernie Sims, but if he is the anchor of the defense which allows 30 points per game, that obviously either shows that he has no leadership or he isn't very good either. I do like Kevin Smith, but he is not a "good" player as of yet.

Roy was definately the second best player on that team, but he was not worth the 1st, 3rd and 6th. But, if it will help propel the team to the SB next year, then that was definately a trade I'd do 100 times over. If anything, it will just be worse for the Lions since they will take those draft picks, and even though Millen isn't there, it's in Lions genetics to waste it on crap.

rchurchward
10-19-2008, 03:48 PM
You know honestly, all i can say is everyone hear that is a "diehart" cowboy fan obviously isnt, your team is 1,000,000 times better than the Lions ever will be/are and you are all jumping off the bandwagon because Romo isnt playing 1 game. YES 1 GAME! theres 16 games in a season and the other 2 divisions wont take a wildcard spot, the south is a joke, and the north is as well, thats a 8-8 record type of division, so all the cowboys need is a 3rd place finish in the division, shouldnt be that hard, already 4 wins so get another 4 and they probably get in.

and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan

Pretty sure you mean "diehard"

rchurchward
10-19-2008, 03:49 PM
even though i don't like the Lions because the Owner (Mr. Ford) is dillusional and took him years to fire Millen. they still have a decent team (i use that word very lightly)

your telling me Shaun McDonald & Mike Furrey are awful? What about Kevin Smith, Rudi Johnson? Ernie Sims?

to say they have nothing, is a complete joke. they just dont have players for the system they want to use (Need a QB!!!!!!)

Also, Roy Williams wasnt second best, he is talented, but the man isnt worth a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick! he's not worth a 2nd rounder!

High expectations are fine, but you have a bad game and its the end of the world? 16 games in a season, what do you expect? them to go 16-0? we saw how that turned out for the Pats

You must not know the team very well if those are the "good" players. You didn't even mention Calvin Johnson.

dfr52
10-19-2008, 03:52 PM
[quote=#11 Roy Williams;4156223]Do you actually believe the garbage that you are saying is actually correct? Because I'm frustrated that the Cowboys aren't playing to their expectations, I'm suddenly not a fan? I've been a fan of the Cowboys since the Emmitt and Aikman days. LOL, please, stop making an *** of yourself. They are doing poorly, yet I'm still a fan. Once they pick it up, and play like we know they can play, I will still be a fan. According to your terms, since I'm venting on how poorly the Cowboys are playing, I'm no fan. So if I just kept my mouth shut and was ebullient with the way the Cowboys are playing, I would be a true fan? I'd be ignorant is what I would be.

I agree, well stated.

hector234
10-19-2008, 03:54 PM
even though i don't like the Lions because the Owner (Mr. Ford) is dillusional and took him years to fire Millen. they still have a decent team (i use that word very lightly)

your telling me Shaun McDonald & Mike Furrey are awful? What about Kevin Smith, Rudi Johnson? Ernie Sims?

to say they have nothing, is a complete joke. they just dont have players for the system they want to use (Need a QB!!!!!!)

Also, Roy Williams wasnt second best, he is talented, but the man isnt worth a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick! he's not worth a 2nd rounder!

High expectations are fine, but you have a bad game and its the end of the world? 16 games in a season, what do you expect? them to go 16-0? we saw how that turned out for the Pats

You didn't even bring up Calvin Johnson, THE BEST PLAYER ON THAT TEAM! :sign0020: Go back to the baseball forums, please. You obviously don't watch football.

uptonfan1
10-19-2008, 03:55 PM
You didn't even bring up Calvin Johnson, THE BEST PLAYER ON THAT TEAM! :sign0020: Go back to the baseball forums, please. You obviously don't watch football.

He must not be a "diehart" fan :sign0020:

BoogieDownBerlin
10-19-2008, 03:56 PM
You didn't even bring up Calvin Johnson, THE BEST PLAYER ON THAT TEAM! :sign0020: Go back to the baseball forums, please. You obviously don't watch football.

ill guess he`s gone :love0030:

hector234
10-19-2008, 03:57 PM
where did i cry? i simply wanted to know whats behind the pointless thread...
and what does that thread have to do with this? you guys arent venting frusterations, your frusterated with the coach? he is a good coach and the coaches on that team are great as well, if you want better one's i urge you to start a petetion

you know, i'm just about done here, theres no point to argue with countless amounts of cowboy fans who are all making bias statements, and you sir are starting to get this into a more personal debate, this isnt the politics & religion forum, if you want to make personal attacks go there


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BoogieDownBerlin
10-19-2008, 04:00 PM
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x219/zakk20/owned_help.jpg

:pound::pound:

i swear this is the best pic i`ve ever seen :sign0020:

cometmike
10-19-2008, 04:17 PM
:pound::pound:

i swear this is the best pic i`ve ever seen :sign0020:



:pop2::pop2::pop2::pop2:

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 04:47 PM
ill guess he`s gone :love0030:

i'm not gone buddy, i just dont need to stay on the computer all day (actually went to get gas, $2.59!)


i didnt mention calvin johnson, because when i responded to the quote it said there are no good players besides Calvin, it pays to read the posts before.

Like i said, i wasnt starting anything you all believe, i was sharing my opinion then all you gang up on me, i honestly couldnt care what you all think of me, and for Hector who seems to be the "leader" of it all, dont be saying i dont know football, and that i know nothing. do you know me? no. i am very knowledgable about football, but i dont trade in it since my favorite player (Javon Ringer) is still in college so i dont need to collect it that hard since theres no point as of right now for me to do so.

Come at me all you want, theres nothing you can do that will stop me from posting what i think. and so what i spell stuff wrong? doesnt everyone do that from time to time? it's not like i spell check this.

And lastly, I didnt say to the cowboys fans that venting means you arent a "true fan". I said that when you openly are calling for the head coaches job because you loose a game, and panic and start saying how they suck and how they are terrible and that you "give up on there season" than you must not really believe in the team, or think they are good or that you really like them.

My definition of a fan is someone who never doubts there team. Obviously yours is different than mine. Some of you i swear should be in the media, how much you take my words of context, its amazing the things you try to do to be right when you clearly are not and are just trying to cause a fight

& for whoever says Mike Furrey, Shaun McDonald, & Ernie Sims are bad players, than obviously you dont know football. not me.. they arent great or stars but the are good which cant be denied. and all you cowboys fan also think Felix Jones is good if not great and he is already injured. Kevin Smith is just as talented and can be just as good if put in hte same situation, he will be a star, just not with the lions!

BoogieDownBerlin
10-19-2008, 04:49 PM
i'm not gone buddy, i just dont need to stay on the computer all day (actually went to get gas, $2.59!)


i didnt mention calvin johnson, because when i responded to the quote it said there are no good players besides Calvin, it pays to read the posts before.

Like i said, i wasnt starting anything you all believe, i was sharing my opinion then all you gang up on me, i honestly couldnt care what you all think of me, and for Hector who seems to be the "leader" of it all, dont be saying i dont know football, and that i know nothing. do you know me? no. i am very knowledgable about football, but i dont trade in it since my favorite player (Javon Ringer) is still in college so i dont need to collect it that hard since theres no point as of right now for me to do so.

Come at me all you want, theres nothing you can do that will stop me from posting what i think. and so what i spell stuff wrong? doesnt everyone do that from time to time? it's not like i spell check this.

And lastly, I didnt say to the cowboys fans that venting means you arent a "true fan". I said that when you openly are calling for the head coaches job because you loose a game, and panic and start saying how they suck and how they are terrible and that you "give up on there season" than you must not really believe in the team, or think they are good or that you really like them.

My definition of a fan is someone who never doubts there team. Obviously yours is different than mine. Some of you i swear should be in the media, how much you take my words of context, its amazing the things you try to do to be right when you clearly are not and are just trying to cause a fight

& for whoever says Mike Furrey, Shaun McDonald, & Ernie Sims are bad players, than obviously you dont know football. not me.. they arent great or stars but the are good which cant be denied. and all you cowboys fan also think Felix Jones is good if not great and he is already injured. Kevin Smith is just as talented and can be just as good if put in hte same situation, he will be a star, just not with the lions!


1st i`m NOT your buddy

and 2nd please come back and talk to me when you are 18 years old.

thanks and have a nice day :winking0071:

wheeler281
10-19-2008, 04:52 PM
My answer to the thread is last years Pats. Without the ring the hype they got was all for not!

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 04:52 PM
1st i`m NOT your buddy

and 2nd please come back and talk to me when you are 18 years old.

thanks and have a nice day :winking0071:


it's a phrase. i wouldnt really want to be yours, your clearly rude

and why wait till i'm 18, just shows how messed up the world is, its offensive for you to say that and if you do not get warned atleast this is a joke. you think i know nothing cause i'm 16, you probably also think women are nothing compared to men?

huh?

rchurchward
10-19-2008, 04:55 PM
Any other comments directed at each other in a rude or insulting way will result in this thread being closed and possible infractions given out. Thanks guys.

cometmike
10-19-2008, 04:57 PM
Any other comments directed at each other in a rude or insulting way will result in this thread being closed and possible infractions given out. Thanks guys.


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BoogieDownBerlin
10-19-2008, 04:57 PM
:pop2::pop2::pop2::pop2:

:confused0024::confused0024:

mrgrosskopf
10-19-2008, 05:10 PM
If you read in full context, you'd know i said its not loyal when you call that everyone needs to be fired, and that they wont make the playoffs. I am a Eagles fan, i am a fan when they are good and when they are bad, if they have a bad game its not the end of the world, this is football, its a game of a bunch of babies getting overpaid. everyone makes it seem like its the end of the world if there team doesnt win the Super Bowl

& for everyone who says Wade should get fired, let me ask you. are you ever going to be able to do better than him? NO WAY!!!

I can't even imagine all the things a head coach does to prepare for 1 game


bill cowher

mrgrosskopf
10-19-2008, 05:12 PM
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x219/zakk20/owned_help.jpg

:sign0020:
that one never gets old

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 05:20 PM
bill cowher

what does bill cowher have to do with the part you bolded? just curious

rchurchward
10-19-2008, 05:34 PM
what does bill cowher have to do with the part you bolded? just curious

He bolded "or everyone who says Wade should get fired, let me ask you. are you ever going to be able to do better than him? NO WAY!!!"

I take it you were asking, If Phillips was fired, would they be able to find a coach better than Phillips? His answer was yes, Bill Cowher.

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 05:38 PM
He bolded "or everyone who says Wade should get fired, let me ask you. are you ever going to be able to do better than him? NO WAY!!!"

I take it you were asking, If Phillips was fired, would they be able to find a coach better than Phillips? His answer was yes, Bill Cowher.

lol, i wasnt asking that, it was more of a statement for those who say Philips isnt a good coach that if they think so, than they should try. Since none of us would be 1/2 is good as he is, you have to remember how many different ego's/personalities he has to balance on that team which is a huge responsibility

RenegadeLonghorn
10-19-2008, 05:42 PM
Dallas has lost 3 of 4. 4-3 overall. After today's games, we'll probably be around 10th in the NFC. Yup, we're playing like Super Bowl favorite. :thumb:

hector234
10-19-2008, 05:44 PM
Dallas has lost 3 of 4. 4-3 overall. After today's games, we'll probably be around 10th in the NFC. Yup, we're playing like Super Bowl favorite. :thumb:

Still early bro. There is still plenty of football to be played. They've played bad, but they can get it together

#11 Roy Williams
10-19-2008, 05:47 PM
lol, i wasnt asking that, it was more of a statement for those who say Philips isnt a good coach that if they think so, than they should try. Since none of us would be 1/2 is good as he is, you have to remember how many different ego's/personalities he has to balance on that team which is a huge responsibility

Shoot, if they needed a cheerleader to stand on the sidelines, they could call me and I'd do it for 1/4th of his salary.

gladdyontherise
10-19-2008, 05:50 PM
Shoot, if they needed a cheerleader to stand on the sidelines, they could call me and I'd do it for 1/4th of his salary.

i'd do it for a burger and french fries after every game :sign0020:

dfr52
10-19-2008, 06:51 PM
Still early bro. There is still plenty of football to be played. They've played bad, but they can get it together

Agreed but the number of injuries might hurt their playoff chances.

garnett_21
10-19-2008, 06:57 PM
If Romo doesn't play next game, they are done. Redskins, Eagles and Giants will jump on the opportunity to pull away from the Cowboys.

#11 Roy Williams
10-19-2008, 07:20 PM
If Romo doesn't play next game, they are done. Redskins, Eagles and Giants will jump on the opportunity to pull away from the Cowboys.

And the sad part about this is the fact that the Cowboys coaching staff is so senile that they won't recognize anything else that is happening around the division and we will continue to lose with Brad Johnson 'till the 'Skins or Giants game and it will be too late.

garnett_21
10-19-2008, 07:45 PM
And the sad part about this is the fact that the Cowboys coaching staff is so senile that they won't recognize anything else that is happening around the division and we will continue to lose with Brad Johnson 'till the 'Skins or Giants game and it will be too late.
...then the 'Boys will trade Johnson to the Vikings, because the Vikings believe in him, since he was good before....afterall, he'll go back to his old ways and be decent again!

bearfield
10-19-2008, 09:43 PM
and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan[/QUOTE]

i am not a cowboy fan and i say that they are playing to their ability, which isn't much.

dfr52
10-19-2008, 10:01 PM
and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan

i am not a cowboy fan and i say that they are playing to their ability, which isn't much.[/quote]

Yep the problem is the talent not the coaching or injuries.:confused0024:

#11 Roy Williams
10-19-2008, 10:29 PM
i am not a cowboy fan and i say that they are playing to their ability, which isn't much.

Yep the problem is the talent not the coaching or injuries.:confused0024:[/QUOTE]

Haha, we shouldn't even stoop to Bearfields level. The guy is obviously as ignorant as they come, and speaks purely out of his ***.

bearfield
10-19-2008, 11:01 PM
Yep the problem is the talent not the coaching or injuries.:confused0024:

Haha, we shouldn't even stoop to Bearfields level. The guy is obviously as ignorant as they come, and speaks purely out of his ***.[/QUOTE]


i really think they get their talent and ability from some of their so called wannabe know it all fans. making excuses and name calling must be contagious. somebody must be related to t o. HA HA.

two things,
1, if you can't take the heat, STAY OUT OF THE KITCHEN, or on the porch, whichever.
2. its also not nice to get personal, its not allowed by the mods.

#11 Roy Williams
10-19-2008, 11:08 PM
Haha, we shouldn't even stoop to Bearfields level. The guy is obviously as ignorant as they come, and speaks purely out of his ***.


i really think they get their talent and ability from some of their so called wannabe know it all fans. making excuses and name calling must be contagious. somebody must be related to t o. HA HA.

two things,
1, if you can't take the heat, STAY OUT OF THE KITCHEN, or on the porch, whichever.
2. its also not nice to get personal, its not allowed by the mods.[/QUOTE]

Fortunately, freedom of speech is a right as long as it is not threatening. If it's against the rules, I apologize, but the way you berate the Cowboys players as if you know what you are talking about is incredibly obnoxious and extremely ignorant. The Cowboys have no talent? I am still hoping that is a joke. If the Cowboys have no talent, then the Bears must be borderline High School team. Player for player I don't see another team (including the Bears) that match up with them talent wise. If they can get it all together, with a guy who can get them the ball and an OLine who can block, I really don't see how this offense can be stopped.

bearfield
10-19-2008, 11:20 PM
i'm sorry, but "if this" and "if that" are just excuses for a team that can't cut it.
did the girls get spanked today or not? were they favored today and why not?
oh yeah, and the offense was stopped today.

#11 Roy Williams
10-20-2008, 12:04 AM
i'm sorry, but "if this" and "if that" are just excuses for a team that can't cut it.
did the girls get spanked today or not? were they favored today and why not?
oh yeah, and the offense was stopped today.

1. No that cannot, but a team that is 4-3 is not a team that has a lack of talent. If that's the case, your Bears have a lack of talent as well, and I'm sure you're not in that mindframe because the expectations us Cowboys fans have are larger than that of the Bears fans for the most part.
2. Yes, we did get spanked.
3. They were favored going into the game, and that is because they have much more talent.
4. The offense was stopped. ANY offense will be stopped if you had a 40 year old, weak armed QB throwing to you when your offense is based of the big play threat. If you have Roy and TO in the Wides, you need a guy who can get it there. Brad Johnson is definately not that guy.

Fortunately, there is still a good number of games left. I'll see how we're doing with Romo before I decide how much talent we have. What I do know, is that our talent is producing like it should, and that is due to the coaching staff

wheeler281
10-20-2008, 12:19 AM
and for all you saying there done, when they play back to the ability they have, i dont want to see you all posting like you never doubted them or that you "love" and are a "true" cowboys fan

i am not a cowboy fan and i say that they are playing to their ability, which isn't much.[/quote]

I find it funny a guy who talks smack but pledges no alliance to a team. I think he should suit up. What do you say http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii3/wheeler281/P3110013.jpg<<<<<<<--------Bearfield bucket pic

How do you think he would do :party0053:

The Boys will be fine. No Panic. Be here when the playoffs start for the boys will be there.. I could take someone a bit more seriously if he was not one who just piled on when a team is going through injuries.

bearfield
10-20-2008, 01:25 AM
if, if, if, blame, blame, blame, excuse, excuse, excuse, keep using them, and i'm not a bears fan.

mindcrime1981
10-20-2008, 01:36 AM
1. No that cannot, but a team that is 4-3 is not a team that has a lack of talent. If that's the case, your Bears have a lack of talent as well, and I'm sure you're not in that mindframe because the expectations us Cowboys fans have are larger than that of the Bears fans for the most part.
2. Yes, we did get spanked.
3. They were favored going into the game, and that is because they have much more talent.
4. The offense was stopped. ANY offense will be stopped if you had a 40 year old, weak armed QB throwing to you when your offense is based of the big play threat. If you have Roy and TO in the Wides, you need a guy who can get it there. Brad Johnson is definately not that guy.

Fortunately, there is still a good number of games left. I'll see how we're doing with Romo before I decide how much talent we have. What I do know, is that our talent is producing like it should, and that is due to the coaching staff

I think bearfield is a Bills fan, not a Bears fan, and let's see if Romo can actually win a playoff game before we put him amongst the elite QBs...

#11 Roy Williams
10-20-2008, 10:28 AM
if, if, if, blame, blame, blame, excuse, excuse, excuse, keep using them, and i'm not a bears fan.

Are you even a fan of football? Your knowledge sure as hell doesn't show it if you are.

Why do you think the Cowboys aren't winning? Because their talent isn't up to par with the rest of the league? That's a freaking joke and obviously shows your ignorance towards this topic and your overall lack of knowledge on this subject.

When you pick a team to be a fan of, let me know and we'll see who has more talent.

Fortunately, it's the end of the year that matters, and when you decide to pick a team we'll see who is going where.

bearfield
10-20-2008, 10:31 AM
I think bearfield is a Bills fan, not a Bears fan, and let's see if Romo can actually win a playoff game before we put him amongst the elite QBs...

good deduction, but i'm not a bills fan either, even though i live in buffalo.
i just pick up edwards autos because he has been looking pretty good, and will trade them locally for hofer autos, when the bvs go up.
i don't pick up any lynches because he doesn't look very good, and who wants to pick up cards of a guy who calls himself "beast"? doesn't work for me.

bearfield
10-20-2008, 11:09 AM
[QUOTE=#11 Roy Williams;4160956]Are you even a fan of football? Your knowledge sure as hell doesn't show it if you are.

Why do you think the Cowboys aren't winning? Because their talent isn't up to par with the rest of the league? That's a freaking joke and obviously shows your ignorance towards this topic and your overall lack of knowledge on this subject.

i think the cowboys aren't winning because of a lack of talent. i've been watching football since they started broadcasting it on tv, and have learned a little, stuff like--------
crybabies and jailbirds on the roster, are they good for the chemistry of a team. don't you cowboyfans ever get tired of the ME ME ME ME ME crap coming from certain players? there is a big difference between talent and joke, and thats what t o is, a joke. no amount of talent is worth it.
i dislike t o because he has been disruptive on every team he has been on. when are you cowboy fans gonna get a clue? he is a lowlife concerned about t o, not the team.
this isn't football, and i'll badmouth the player, and the team.

its too bad jerry jones can't buy a championship, everybody knows hes trying.

lastly, the "freaking joke" you mentioned is alive and well, it is the cowboys organization from the top down. can you live with that fact?

DAVE30
10-20-2008, 11:11 AM
I'm not a cowboys fan, but i say they are going to the playoffs this year. They will come alive when romo gets back they are playoff bound.

Dave

#11 Roy Williams
10-20-2008, 11:19 AM
[QUOTE=#11 Roy Williams;4160956]Are you even a fan of football? Your knowledge sure as hell doesn't show it if you are.

Why do you think the Cowboys aren't winning? Because their talent isn't up to par with the rest of the league? That's a freaking joke and obviously shows your ignorance towards this topic and your overall lack of knowledge on this subject.

i think the cowboys aren't winning because of a lack of talent. i've been watching football since they started broadcasting it on tv, and have learned a little, stuff like--------
crybabies and jailbirds on the roster, are they good for the chemistry of a team. don't you cowboyfans ever get tired of the ME ME ME ME ME crap coming from certain players? there is a big difference between talent and joke, and thats what t o is, a joke. no amount of talent is worth it.
i dislike t o because he has been disruptive on every team he has been on. when are you cowboy fans gonna get a clue? he is a lowlife concerned about t o, not the team.
this isn't football, and i'll badmouth the player, and the team.

its too bad jerry jones can't buy a championship, everybody knows hes trying.

lastly, the "freaking joke" you mentioned is alive and well, it is the cowboys organization from the top down. can you live with that fact?

Do you like contradicting yourself in every statement?

You think the Cowboys have a lack of talent, yet you say you don't like TO because he is all about himself and isn't worth it even though he has a ton of talent? That whole team is stacked with talent. They are undisciplined. Sure they have some trouble makers and selfish players, but that doesn't mean their talent level is sub-par.

I'm done with arguing with you. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about and completely ignorant on this topic.

But, my last question is, who is your team?

bearfield
10-20-2008, 11:37 AM
[QUOTE=bearfield;4161058]

Do you like contradicting yourself in every statement?

WRONG, I DID NOT!

You think the Cowboys have a lack of talent, yet you say you don't like TO because he is all about himself and isn't worth it even though he has a ton of talent? That whole team is stacked with talent.

AND IT SURE SHOWS IT IN THEIR GAMES. gimme a break.

They are undisciplined. Sure they have some trouble makers and selfish players, but that doesn't mean their talent level is sub-par.

UNDERSTATEMENT, AND IT ALSO DOESN'T MEAN IT ISN'T SUB-PAR.

I'm done with arguing with you. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about and completely ignorant on this topic.

you obviously have no idea of what i am talking about either, and will not admit what is put in front of you.

But, my last question is, who is your team?

i'll answer that when you answer my question about how long are you cowboy fans gonna put up with that crap.

WE'RE TALKING GULLIBLE, somebody made a statement about the team being super bowl bound, and the fans bought it, lock, stock, and barrel. DUH!

I HAVE SWAMPLAND FOR SALE. CALL 1-800-GULLIBLE FANS.

wheeler281
10-20-2008, 11:38 AM
Bearfield make a stand. Who is your team. You live in WNY bit not the Bills. Do not like the Cowboys. Are you just a guy that likes to argue with people.

#11 Roy Williams
10-20-2008, 11:57 AM
[QUOTE=#11 Roy Williams;4161076]

i'll answer that when you answer my question about how long are you cowboy fans gonna put up with that crap.

WE'RE TALKING GULLIBLE, somebody made a statement about the team being super bowl bound, and the fans bought it, lock, stock, and barrel. DUH!

I HAVE SWAMPLAND FOR SALE. CALL 1-800-GULLIBLE FANS.

I will put up with their crap as long as I live. I'm a Cowboys fan and I'm not going to jump ship like I'm sure you have on so many teams. Maybe that's why you won't admit you are a fan of a team, because every team that loses you jump ship. It's not even the analysts that said they were SB bound and that's why I bought it. It's because I looked at their talent, and I looked out that team from last year, and figured that with adding talent, this could be our year.

That was my last post to you. You don't quite understand where we are coming from, because you are not a true fan of a team. Wheeler understands where we are coming from, because he is a true fan. Same with Vincanity, Hector, etc. I'm done with you and your ignorant comments that like to spark an argument. Shows that you are absolutely clueless.

Wheeler, your Steelers are looking good, man. Hines Ward isn't afraid to take on the league and their roughing policy LOL.

bearfield
10-20-2008, 03:14 PM
[QUOTE=#11 Roy Williams;4161193][QUOTE=bearfield;4161126]

It's not even the analysts that said they were SB bound and that's why I bought it. It's because I looked at their talent, and I looked out that team from last year, and figured that with adding talent, this could be our year.

????? yep, you're a real judge of talent.

i will say 1 thing, jerry jones is not two faced----------------because if he was, he wouldn't be wearing the one he has on now.

#11 Roy Williams
10-20-2008, 03:25 PM
[QUOTE=#11 Roy Williams;4161193][QUOTE=bearfield;4161126]

It's not even the analysts that said they were SB bound and that's why I bought it. It's because I looked at their talent, and I looked out that team from last year, and figured that with adding talent, this could be our year.

????? yep, you're a real judge of talent.

i will say 1 thing, jerry jones is not two faced----------------because if he was, he wouldn't be wearing the one he has on now.

I don't know why I can't stop responding to you. Feels like I'm dipping down to your level.

1. It's not only me who decided this, it's gotta be a good half of NFL fans all over.

2. That comment is rather immature and not even funny.

3. If you would just step up and tell us all what team you are a fan of, we can get a better understand where these ignorant comments are coming from.

4. To stop me from dropping down to your level, you're going to be ignored so I'm not tempted to answer these rediculous posts of yours.

bearfield
10-20-2008, 03:34 PM
:wave:[QUOTE=bearfield;4161998][QUOTE=#11 Roy Williams;4161193]

I don't know why I can't stop responding to you. Feels like I'm dipping down to your level.
at least i'm not alone down here.

1. It's not only me who decided this, it's gotta be a good half of NFL fans all over.
well, they say, ' YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE ect, ect

2. That comment is rather immature and not even funny.

HEY, JERRY JONES DOES LOOK FUNNY.

3. If you would just step up and tell us all what team you are a fan of, we can get a better understand where these ignorant comments are coming from.

ok, i don't have a team, and haven't had one since montana retired. i like certain players, obviously t o isn't one of them.

4. To stop me from dropping down to your level, you're going to be ignored so I'm not tempted to answer these rediculous posts of yours.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. i don't believe it.

dfr52
10-20-2008, 07:20 PM
Bearfield make a stand. Who is your team. You live in WNY bit not the Bills. Do not like the Cowboys. Are you just a guy that likes to argue with people.

I think you are on to something. Maybe some bias due to the Cowboys beating of the Bills in 92 & 93. Let it go.:sign0020:

I have not heard a commentator or any fan remark on the lack of talent the Cowboys have. The only things I have heard have been on the coaching and not playing well. I'm not sure where the comment on the lack of talent comes from.

dan243
10-20-2008, 07:28 PM
Cowboys would be a better team without Jerry Jones, Pacman Jones and Terrell Owens.

bearfield
10-20-2008, 07:43 PM
[/B]

I think you are on to something. Maybe some bias due to the Cowboys beating of the Bills in 92 & 93. Let it go.:sign0020:

I have not heard a commentator or any fan remark on the lack of talent the Cowboys have. The only things I have heard have been on the coaching and not playing well. I'm not sure where the comment on the lack of talent comes from.


the comment about lack of talent came from me, didn't you see them play the last couple of weeks, WHERE IS THE TALENT??? its rather obvious, there isn't much. some of the fans on here have commented on the o-line needing help and the defense playing bad. what do you suppose causes that??? how about lack of talent?

i haven't liked the bills or been a bills fan since 91, and the cowboys were a real team back then.

I MADE THIS COMMENT EARLIER FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T READ AND MISSED IT.
ok, i don't have a team, and haven't had one since montana retired. i like certain players, obviously t o isn't one of them.

is this where i get slick and add some smileys? ha ha.

hector234
10-21-2008, 02:02 AM
1st of all, the Cowboys do not lack "talent", they lack discipline and leadership, which I think all starts with the head coach. Philips is a players coach, but right now during these times, he needs to be a lot tougher. I remember T.O. always bashing on Parcells after Parcells left, but Parcells was all about discipline and putting the right pieces in place. Look at how much better that Dolphins team looks now? Sure it's not a complete 180 turnaround, but they are looking better. It's still early, they can turn it around.

bearfield
10-21-2008, 09:57 AM
1st of all, the Cowboys do not lack "talent", they lack discipline and leadership, which I think all starts with the head coach. Philips is a players coach, but right now during these times, he needs to be a lot tougher. I remember T.O. always bashing on Parcells after Parcells left, but Parcells was all about discipline and putting the right pieces in place. Look at how much better that Dolphins team looks now? Sure it's not a complete 180 turnaround, but they are looking better. It's still early, they can turn it around.

Phillips is now and has always been a wuss as a coach, besides being a halfwit, or less. for you youngsters that can't remember, he is riding on his dads coat tails. his dad was a real coach. didn't take crap from players.

TALENT- wouldn't you describe leadership as a talent? the team lacks it.

you are right about t o bashing parcells after he left, he bashes everybody after they are gone. doesn't have the nads to say anything to anybodys face, well, maybe to and about women. is anybody surprised? thats usually what a coward does. yap yap yap. i can't wait till he leaves this team.

DISCIPLINE-something the buffalo bills lacked in their 4 superbowl run, and the reason they lost 2 of them, they lost the other 2 because the cowboys were a good team, but that was then. marv levy was a wuss too.

hector234
10-21-2008, 05:01 PM
Phillips is now and has always been a wuss as a coach, besides being a halfwit, or less. for you youngsters that can't remember, he is riding on his dads coat tails. his dad was a real coach. didn't take crap from players.

TALENT- wouldn't you describe leadership as a talent? the team lacks it.

you are right about t o bashing parcells after he left, he bashes everybody after they are gone. doesn't have the nads to say anything to anybodys face, well, maybe to and about women. is anybody surprised? thats usually what a coward does. yap yap yap. i can't wait till he leaves this team.

DISCIPLINE-something the buffalo bills lacked in their 4 superbowl run, and the reason they lost 2 of them, they lost the other 2 because the cowboys were a good team, but that was then. marv levy was a wuss too.

Regardless if Levy was a wuss, his style worked. And yes, Philips will always be compared to his dad. I still think the person that should get the credit for that team is Parcells.

bearfield
10-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Regardless if Levy was a wuss, his style worked. And yes, Philips will always be compared to his dad. I still think the person that should get the credit for that team is Parcells.

you are right about parcells, the ring switzer has, really belongs to parcells. jerry jones's ego is the reason he got rid of parcells.
as far as levy goes, he got out coached the first superbowl, i believe it was by parcells. if they would have won the first, they could have won the second, the 3rd and 4th, they were just spanked by a superior cowboys team.
3 time losers get life in prison. 4 time losers go into the hall of fame.
there was no disipline on the bills, they were out partying the night before the first superbowl. the players ran the team, not levy. the present cowboys are much the same, and i expect the same.

BU54CB
10-21-2008, 06:18 PM
you are right about parcells, the ring switzer has, really belongs to parcells. jerry jones's ego is the reason he got rid of parcells.
as far as levy goes, he got out coached the first superbowl, i believe it was by parcells. if they would have won the first, they could have won the second, the 3rd and 4th, they were just spanked by a superior cowboys team.
3 time losers get life in prison. 4 time losers go into the hall of fame.
there was no disipline on the bills, they were out partying the night before the first superbowl. the players ran the team, not levy. the present cowboys are much the same, and i expect the same.

Umm, Jimmy Johnson was the coach before Switzer, not Parcells.

bearfield
10-21-2008, 06:31 PM
Umm, Jimmy Johnson was the coach before Switzer, not Parcells.


oops, brain stalled.

dfr52
10-21-2008, 08:09 PM
you are right about parcells, the ring switzer has, really belongs to parcells. jerry jones's ego is the reason he got rid of parcells.
as far as levy goes, he got out coached the first superbowl, i believe it was by parcells. if they would have won the first, they could have won the second, the 3rd and 4th, they were just spanked by a superior cowboys team.
3 time losers get life in prison. 4 time losers go into the hall of fame.
there was no disipline on the bills, they were out partying the night before the first superbowl. the players ran the team, not levy. the present cowboys are much the same, and i expect the same.

I'm not a Buffalo fan but that's the first time I have heard anyone call Levy a wuss or bad coach. The loss to the Giants was b/c Norwood missed a kick. If he makes that kick is Levy still a bad coach?

The 92-93 Cowboys were unbeatable in big games so I wouldn't blame Levy for those losses.

wheeler281
10-21-2008, 09:51 PM
the comment about lack of talent came from me, didn't you see them play the last couple of weeks, WHERE IS THE TALENT??? its rather obvious, there isn't much. some of the fans on here have commented on the o-line needing help and the defense playing bad. what do you suppose causes that??? how about lack of talent?

i haven't liked the bills or been a bills fan since 91, and the cowboys were a real team back then.

I MADE THIS COMMENT EARLIER FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T READ AND MISSED IT.
ok, i don't have a team, and haven't had one since montana retired. i like certain players, obviously t o isn't one of them.

is this where i get slick and add some smileys? ha ha.

So Montana retired in 94 and you liked the bills till '91. The last known team you liked was the Chiefs. No wonder you won't come clean about being a Chiefs fan. The Chiefs? Are you serious. Way to go. How can anybody take you seriously. You are a guy who piles on and that is it. Never on here in support of anyone or anything. Just spewing hatred to guys 40 years younger. Man the happiness in your life is amazing. I guess that wasteland of Lockport breeds your behavior. The card shop selling 90 pro-set cards closed and you have gone down hill ever since.
Here is a slick old man smiley for ya http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e367/gatsby6306/starac.gif
Feel free to save it and use it...

bearfield
10-21-2008, 10:01 PM
the game never should have been in a position to be decided by a kick. the bills had more talent, should have had the lead, just no disipline and a bad coach. so norwood makes the kick, the bills still lose the next 3. lets blame the loss on norwood, never mind the team partied the night before and had no disipline.
the blame for the loss belonged to levy and the players with no disipline, but norwood was the handy chump, and they blamed him.

dfr52
10-21-2008, 10:35 PM
the game never should have been in a position to be decided by a kick. the bills had more talent, should have had the lead, just no disipline and a bad coach. so norwood makes the kick, the bills still lose the next 3. lets blame the loss on norwood, never mind the team partied the night before and had no disipline.
the blame for the loss belonged to levy and the players with no disipline, but norwood was the handy chump, and they blamed him.

Any other Bills' fans dislike Levy?

bearfield
10-21-2008, 10:49 PM
Any other Bills' fans dislike Levy?

don't know and don't care, and i'm not a bills fan, quit being a fan in 91.

Trucker
10-22-2008, 01:18 AM
Just a friendly reminder to everyone to tone down little bit on personal attacks. It's fine to discuss the topic, but let's not go overboard with personal attacks.

Thank you

Carry on..

matt_curren
10-23-2008, 02:08 AM
What's a "b.r.a.d. warrior?"
They are in a lot of your sigs?