View Full Version : So Did anybody see Hines Ward destroy Keith Rivers???


the99rock
10-19-2008, 08:53 PM
Check out this hit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23hFKCzD5n0

rchurchward
10-19-2008, 08:54 PM
Yeah I saw that! Dirty hit!

rudifan
10-19-2008, 08:55 PM
yeah, but he got paid back when he scored his touchdown.

Edwards2Evans
10-19-2008, 08:55 PM
Sick hit! :boxing:

the99rock
10-19-2008, 08:56 PM
How much do you think he will get fined for this one?

rchurchward
10-19-2008, 08:58 PM
I think they'll try to push it off as a "block"

the99rock
10-19-2008, 09:00 PM
They just recently sued him for his other monster blocks.

McFarlaneRuss21
10-19-2008, 11:56 PM
Maybe its just me but it didnt look helmet to helmet from those angles. Looked like he went helmet to shoulder pad. They may get him for leading with the helmet but he very well could get off with it being deemed a block that didnt go helmet to helmet.

wheeler281
10-20-2008, 12:09 AM
Yeah I saw that! Dirty hit!


Pause at 6 seconds....... He blocked him at the same point the runner was in front of Rivers. Don't be a hater! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Lanfear_Sedai/smilies/CRYING_SMILEY.gif

As stated by Ochon Cinco I never blocked anybody in my life

"It's part of the game. It was a good block. If I was in Hines Ward's shoes, I probably would have taken the same shot. You can't really blame him."

#11 Roy Williams
10-20-2008, 01:09 AM
That was not helmet to helmet, nor was it a dirty hit. Good block, and Hines knows what he's doing. I don't think he ever goes out there with the intention to hurt someone. He's a physical player as all Steelers are. Good block.

Stoopid512
10-20-2008, 01:44 AM
Is that the hit that broke Rivers' jaw? I didn't get to watch much football today because I was working a tournament at work today...
(I work at a bowling center)

stephenheger
10-20-2008, 02:20 AM
Clean hit. Period. Could he help it that the defender was only looking at the ball and not the wrecking ball coming his way?

Stephen

mack10290
10-20-2008, 03:14 AM
Yeah I saw that! Dirty hit!

Come on now....thats not dirty! Football is a contact sport....your supposed to go out and hit people. When I saw that play it occured to me that Hines is just showing everyone that hes gonna play his game despite the fact that he just got fined for the exact same thing vs Jacksonville.

dallascisco
10-20-2008, 09:10 AM
The was a clean hit, as a fb player you're taught to keep your head on a swivel, rivers didn't.

htwheelz01
10-20-2008, 10:11 AM
It was definately a clean hit. He was just blocking as he has always done. And yes that was the hit that broke his jaw.

wnysupport
10-20-2008, 12:25 PM
Clean block - it's a contact game.

megabyterex
10-20-2008, 01:31 PM
Oh Man, even i cringed when i saw that. Defense should realize by now they should always be on guard with Hines on the prowl, hahahahha.

megabyterex
10-20-2008, 01:35 PM
Yeah I saw that! Dirty hit!

Dirty? You've never played football or you don't understand the rules? It was a legal and clean BLOCK, but knowing the commish Hines will get fined for being too rough in a sissy sport.

HeavyHitter
10-20-2008, 03:15 PM
Thats my boy!

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/IMROMO/HINES%20WARD/thedeal017.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/IMROMO/HINES%20WARD/031308010.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/IMROMO/HINES%20WARD/hwset005.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/IMROMO/HINES%20WARD/HINESGRID67OF10SCAN.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/IMROMO/HINES%20WARD/HINESMVPAUTO.jpg

hector234
10-20-2008, 04:12 PM
It was a clean block by Ward. Don't antagonize the Steelers fans by calling it dirty. :pound:

palantri
10-20-2008, 04:14 PM
clean hit- no doubt- but heres my question- had that same hit happened to an offensive player, would there have been a flag? I say yes...
Ed

#11 Roy Williams
10-20-2008, 04:49 PM
clean hit- no doubt- but heres my question- had that same hit happened to an offensive player, would there have been a flag? I say yes...
Ed

Probably... But, there is no reason why the defensive player would make a hit like that on anybody but the ball carrier. If he randomly laid a smackdown like that on Hines Ward, it's apparent he wasn't going for the ball carrier but was head hunting.

megabyterex
10-20-2008, 06:26 PM
Probably... But, there is no reason why the defensive player would make a hit like that on anybody but the ball carrier. If he randomly laid a smackdown like that on Hines Ward, it's apparent he wasn't going for the ball carrier but was head hunting.

I remember in the olden days QBs would get laid out, :sign0020: those were the good old days.

mack10290
10-20-2008, 07:02 PM
Probably... But, there is no reason why the defensive player would make a hit like that on anybody but the ball carrier. If he randomly laid a smackdown like that on Hines Ward, it's apparent he wasn't going for the ball carrier but was head hunting.

Hines Ward has been hit like that on a number of occasions over the years...he mostly just gets up smiling. In fact, he was laid out on the turf during this years training camp by his own team-mate Anthony Smith....he wasnt smiling after that one...had to be helped off the field.

scott0326
10-21-2008, 12:53 PM
Nice hit! reminds me of the hit on Ed Reed last year.

mstng99tim
10-21-2008, 01:28 PM
yeah, but he got paid back when he scored his touchdown.

yeah, they really showed him, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

themanishere
10-21-2008, 01:34 PM
Hines is one of the guys who dishes it out, but can't really take it on the same level. Simply because he hits people like that doesn't make him tough to the extent he wants to be known.

Just another case of guys making hits like that to seem tough. What happened to not worrying about ego and making good plays? I remember the days when guys hardly ever danced after a TD, didn't taunt people...they just hit hard and lined up for the next play.

megabyterex
10-21-2008, 01:48 PM
Hines is one of the guys who dishes it out, but can't really take it on the same level. Simply because he hits people like that doesn't make him tough to the extent he wants to be known.

Just another case of guys making hits like that to seem tough. What happened to not worrying about ego and making good plays? I remember the days when guys hardly ever danced after a TD, didn't taunt people...they just hit hard and lined up for the next play.

Nowadays they get taken away in a stretcher.

bigrob2008
10-21-2008, 01:52 PM
Man, that was SOLID!!!! Nice Hines Ward collection too!!

HeavyHitter
10-21-2008, 02:23 PM
Hines is one of the guys who dishes it out, but can't really take it on the same level. Simply because he hits people like that doesn't make him tough to the extent he wants to be known.

Guess you dont watch much football:confused0024:

RedGoneWILD
10-21-2008, 03:18 PM
Hines is one of the guys who dishes it out, but can't really take it on the same level. Simply because he hits people like that doesn't make him tough to the extent he wants to be known.

Just another case of guys making hits like that to seem tough. What happened to not worrying about ego and making good plays? I remember the days when guys hardly ever danced after a TD, didn't taunt people...they just hit hard and lined up for the next play.

those must've been the days when baseball was still considered America's pasttime....it bothers me more that people actually care if a player celebrates a TD, then the player actually doing it

a bunch of steelers haters in this thread...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3uM3d42b6M

wheeler281
10-21-2008, 03:22 PM
Hines is one of the guys who dishes it out, but can't really take it on the same level. Simply because he hits people like that doesn't make him tough to the extent he wants to be known.

Just another case of guys making hits like that to seem tough. What happened to not worrying about ego and making good plays? I remember the days when guys hardly ever danced after a TD, didn't taunt people...they just hit hard and lined up for the next play.


I will have what you are smoking. Look at you trying to sound all philosophical :sign0020:
Instead you just sound like a whiner
1st comment in bold shows you do not listen or watch much football. They do not get much tougher at the wideout postion then Hines. 2nd bold comment makes no sense. When was that?? I would like to know. Something tell me you are not that old. 1970's player one named Billy "white shoes" Johnson from the Cowboys danced pretty good
Listen it is not like Hines is cleaning up people standing around the pile. He is blocking. The Ed Reed hit above. Ed was starting to sprint toward the runner guess he is supposed to let him go? The one this thread is on was right about when Rivers was getting ready to make a tackle.

BU54CB
10-21-2008, 04:00 PM
I don't care if players knock the crap out of each other, that's what football is all about. I went on youtube and watched the videos posted here, and there's one thing in common with Ward's hits. He puts his head down just before the hit and leads with his helmet every time. In all the football I've played, the proper blocking technique I was taught never included putting your head down and leading with the helmet. Last year, against Cleveland in the season opener, Ward lays a hit on a Cleveland defender way after the play was over, leading with his helmet.

Ward is hard nosed player and a great blocker, but its pretty easy to knock a player silly using your helmet as a weapon. He could have just as easily used his shoulder and laid into Reed or Rivers as they weren't even looking. IMO, I don't think its the hard blocks that angers people, its the technique he uses, which sometimes injures players unnecessarily.

Here's the Cleveland hit, you judge for yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NJYruxZ4Zg

themanishere
10-21-2008, 04:04 PM
It always comes back to "you're a _____ hater". Then come the defensive comments and insinuations.

I was making a comment about the overall viewpoint around football about 'being tough'. The issue I have is simply towards the mindset a lot of guys in the league today have about what is tough, or what is a tough image. This extends to the fans and people in general really. By this, I mean many guys are 'tough' for the sake of an image more so than for the game (which was what was different from days past). Sure, you may want to intimidate, but be real, these guys are not going to be intimidated in that sense in the pros. It sounds obvious, but so many people get caught up in the rhythms of the game and forget about the superficial aspects of it.

Yes, he was blocking, but there is no doubt he (as well as several others) have the aforementioned mindset. Ward is 'tough' but I question that very mindset at large.

I suppose I do not want to sound philosophical, per se, I just want to articulate myself well, and not have to 'dumb down' my speech. Just because this is online does not mean I have to use the terrible lingo and shortcuts.

BU54CB
10-21-2008, 04:40 PM
those must've been the days when baseball was still considered America's pasttime....it bothers me more that people actually care if a player celebrates a TD, then the player actually doing it

a bunch of steelers haters in this thread...



Why if you express an opinion are you all of a sudden a hater? You've got an opinion, you expressed it, I didn't see anyone call you anything?

I don't understand your TD celebration comment, doesn't make sense. I do think celebrations as a whole are ridiculous, nothing is more annoying than a defensive player celebrating a sack when they are down by 30 points.

mack10290
10-21-2008, 05:38 PM
It always comes back to "you're a _____ hater". Then come the defensive comments and insinuations.

I was making a comment about the overall viewpoint around football about 'being tough'. The issue I have is simply towards the mindset a lot of guys in the league today have about what is tough, or what is a tough image. This extends to the fans and people in general really. By this, I mean many guys are 'tough' for the sake of an image more so than for the game (which was what was different from days past). Sure, you may want to intimidate, but be real, these guys are not going to be intimidated in that sense in the pros. It sounds obvious, but so many people get caught up in the rhythms of the game and forget about the superficial aspects of it.

Yes, he was blocking, but there is no doubt he (as well as several others) have the aforementioned mindset. Ward is 'tough' but I question that very mindset at large.

I suppose I do not want to sound philosophical, per se, I just want to articulate myself well, and not have to 'dumb down' my speech. Just because this is online does not mean I have to use the terrible lingo and shortcuts.

OK well I follow what you're trying to say, although I think you picked a roundabout way of saying it, and I disagree. I've been a Steelers fan long enough to have watched Hines Ward since he was drafted. They guy is not someone who just acts tough....he is a genuinely tough, hard core, hard nosed player and he would probably have fit in well with those players back in the '50s and '60s. I dont think he does these things to give himself an image, hes doing it to help his team because he wants to win. If you smack a guy hard enough, he will be looking for you on the next play and maybe a little slower to make a tackle. The NFL needs more guys like Ward and less guys like KW2 who doesnt feel like he fits in and crys to the media that his team treats him like a piece of meat. I think he needs a Hines Ward block.

BU54CB
10-21-2008, 05:44 PM
OK well I follow what you're trying to say, although I think you picked a roundabout way of saying it, and I disagree. I've been a Steelers fan long enough to have watched Hines Ward since he was drafted. They guy is not someone who just acts tough....he is a genuinely tough, hard core, hard nosed player and he would probably have fit in well with those players back in the '50s and '60s. I dont think he does these things to give himself an image, hes doing it to help his team because he wants to win. If you smack a guy hard enough, he will be looking for you on the next play and maybe a little slower to make a tackle. The NFL needs more guys like Ward and less guys like KW2 who doesnt feel like he fits in and crys to the media that his team treats him like a piece of meat. I think he needs a Hines Ward block.

Can't disagree with you there.

Ryo1549
10-21-2008, 06:08 PM
I am a Steelers hater but...........

The hit was not a dirty hit. Great hit. I wish the 49ers would have someone who played half as hard as Hines Ward.

themanishere
10-21-2008, 10:34 PM
OK well I follow what you're trying to say, although I think you picked a roundabout way of saying it, and I disagree. I've been a Steelers fan long enough to have watched Hines Ward since he was drafted. They guy is not someone who just acts tough....he is a genuinely tough, hard core, hard nosed player and he would probably have fit in well with those players back in the '50s and '60s. I dont think he does these things to give himself an image, hes doing it to help his team because he wants to win. If you smack a guy hard enough, he will be looking for you on the next play and maybe a little slower to make a tackle. The NFL needs more guys like Ward and less guys like KW2 who doesnt feel like he fits in and crys to the media that his team treats him like a piece of meat. I think he needs a Hines Ward block.

I feel you. I think I got caught up in the issue about the image problem. I am just disgusted, and I think it starts off the field, which makes it tougher to address and less likely to be seen as a problem on the field.

I was not necessarily trying to imply Hines was part of that. Now that I am more rational, I'll give Hines his props.

However, like I said, there are still those undertones concerning the 'tough image' in the sport of football in general. I believe that idea reverberates in virtually any player's mind whether they do it right or not. ('it' referring to being tough)

Although, I still am a Steeler hater...:boxing:

vosen8832
10-21-2008, 11:08 PM
That hit on Rivers I don't think it dirty he was blocking for the WR. The other two videos however look to be a bit on the dirty side.

Bondsaway
10-21-2008, 11:34 PM
The Rivers hit was Rivers fault...he had tunnel vision on the ball carrier. Hines got him on the front shoulder not side or back, which by NFL standards is a good block. Now the one where he laid out that Brown should have gotten him a suspension that was late and uncalled for. As for guys and their toughness Hines is one of the few O guys that will give and take. As for the statement about not leading with the head he is offense not defensive. I never heard tell of an offensive coordinator teaching tackling methods..... Go Steelers

johan29lhp
10-21-2008, 11:36 PM
thats my Georgia boy doin work! go dawgs!

#11 Roy Williams
10-21-2008, 11:48 PM
Here's the Cleveland hit, you judge for yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NJYruxZ4Zg

There is no doubt that the Rivers hit was clean.

BUT, the Browns hit was DEFINATELY uncalled for, and he deserved to be fined and probably suspended for that. That's as late and violent as hits come after the play. The one on Reed he lead straight with his helmet, and as stated above, it's easy to knock someone off their shoes when you have a helmet as a weapon. I do like Ward because he called for help for Reed, and he is a helluva player and plays hard, but sometimes these plays are a little dirty. Now, Polamalu, that guy is definately my favorite Steeler.