This team to me at least is the real deal at 5-1...Edwards is looking like a star QB already...Freddy Jackson is playing unbelievale and Lee Evans is off to a pro bowl season. The defensive additions have helped tremendously in Kawika Mitchell and Marcus Stroud. They could be 9-1 in 4 weeks as they play at Miami home against the Jets at New England and MNF against Cleveland. But thats far from now. Anyhow who else tihkns this Bills team is the reral deal and possibly at this point a deep playoff threat

James Hardy needs to play more.

Team looks strong!

Im starting Trent next week asgt. MIA as Rogers and Orton are on thier Byes.

as much as people are talking about tennessee I think that buffalo is the best team in the AFC. Buffalo has beaten some decent teams and are playing great ball. Titans are up and down with their consistency and have been playing very weak opponents. I think in the next 4 weeks we will see who is the stronger of the two. And my money is on Buffalo.

I agree with all above. This is so great to see this team playing like they are. I do Billieve this team is a serious deep threat in the playoffs. Edwards and Lynch remind me of 2 guys from back in the day named Kelly and Thomas. It's extremely refreshing to see this team at 5-1. Lets not forget the great job that Dick Jauron is doing. He is having a "Coach of the Year" year.

I love the 5-1 start. I hope they can improve their run-blocking, though. Lynch hardly ever has any holes to run through. He's a strong, tough runner who has to fight for every yard. Eventually this is going to catch up to him unless the line can do a better job.

Stroud and Mitchell were two GREAT additions to the D.

Fred Jackson is underrated. He does everything out there.

Trent Edwards is just amazing at 24 years old. He could be the real deal.

LET'S GO BUFFALO!

Agree 100% with Dan on the run blocking - but other then that they are looking to be the real deal this year.

If they can beat the Patriots, I think they are in for a decent playoff run....I just say beat the Patriots, because whether or not they have Brady, I think the Pats are in the Bills heads - and it is going to take a nice win to squash that.

i am really hoping edwards is for real, but its just a tad too soon yet , but i'm afraid lynch isn't, i mean, what running back worth his salt gives HIMSELF the nickname, the beast. thats just stupid, and egotistical.

What does Marshawn Lynch giving himself a nickname have to do with his playing ability?

Also, I agree that the run blocking needs to improve as I don't think Marshawn has gotten a 100+ yard game. Trent Edwards looks great so far but, in all honesty, they really havnt played a great defense. I think the Jets have a top 15 defense so if they can move the ball easily on them, then they could be a serious playoff contender.

Jason

What does Marshawn Lynch giving himself a nickname have to do with his playing ability?

Also, I agree that the run blocking needs to improve as I don't think Marshawn has gotten a 100+ yard game. Trent Edwards looks great so far but, in all honesty, they really havnt played a great defense. I think the Jets have a top 15 defense so if they can move the ball easily on them, then they could be a serious playoff contender. Jason

Jason, it has a lot to do with it. any running back with ability doesn't have to pick out his own cool nickname. if you're really a beast, everybody will know it without you giving them hints, and having to tell them. seems like some insecurity to me. he wants people to think he's an animal, and yet he doesn't run like one, or hit like one. it isn't something you are able to teach a second year man the 6th game of the second season. by then, he either knows or he doesn't. we will see.

Props from a diehard Titans fan.

Trent Edwards and Lee Evans look fantastic, and Marshawn Lynch is a very good back. I'm not very familiar with the defense, but I was extremely surprised to see so many "experts" pick San Diego last week. I picked Buffalo, and they took it to the Chargers. Here's to each of our perennial division champions going down this year, Indianapolis for me and New England for you! Maybe we'll see each other in the AFC Championship and we'll have another Music City Miracle!!!

lol lets hope the music city musical is on our side this time! thanks for the comments guys!
GO BILLS!

I can't wait till the Bills face the Patriots. I want to see a new team take over that division.

I've always liked the Bills to some extent and seeing them excel now is great. Trent Edwards and Lee Evans are just phenomenal to watch. Doesn't hurt that I have Edwards as my starting QB on my fantasy team, either. Hope they go all the way!

Stephen

Let's not get carried away with one team 7 weeks into the season. Although I agree that Buffalo is a formidable opponent, they haven't played anyone in their division yet. In case anyone has forgotten, the Pats are still in that division. Not to mention a team with a guy who wears #4 and the last name Favre on his Jersey. Once they have played and beaten some interdivision teams and continued to hold their status, they could definately be a formidable playoff team. It's never too late for a team to fall apart.

That can happen to ANY team though. Look at the Cowboys. Two weeks ago? Super Bowl Contenders. Now? A pipe dream.

Stephen

Let's not get carried away with one team 7 weeks into the season. Although I agree that Buffalo is a formidable opponent, they haven't played anyone in their division yet. In case anyone has forgotten, the Pats are still in that division. Not to mention a team with a guy who wears #4 and the last name Favre on his Jersey. Once they have played and beaten some interdivision teams and continued to hold their status, they could definately be a formidable playoff team. It's never too late for a team to fall apart.


Yeah I guess that Charger team wasn't a formidable foe either huh?

lol lets hope the music city musical is on our side this time! thanks for the comments guys!
GO BILLS!

It was the Music City Miracle. And I hope the Bills win that division, I like that secondary. Terence McGee :love0030:

Yeah I guess that Charger team wasn't a formidable foe either huh?

Actually, the Chargers were the best competition they have had based on the score. Consider if Rivers doesn't fumble twice and throw a pick in the redzone what the outcome could have been. That 9 point win was NOT indicative of how close it really was. Furthermore, did I mention any bias about the Chargers? Absolutely not! I just said that they haven't played a divisional game yet and to pencil them in as a Super Bowl champion is a bit of a stretch at this point in the season. They've got 8 more games left and 6 of them are intradivision. Their record is what it is and I commend them for that. But I caution Bills fans (or bandwagoners) from getting the train so soon. Vikings fans can relate to great starts and pathetic endings.

Actually, the Chargers were the best competition they have had based on the score. Consider if Rivers doesn't fumble twice and throw a pick in the redzone what the outcome could have been. That 9 point win was NOT indicative of how close it really was. Furthermore, did I mention any bias about the Chargers? Absolutely not! I just said that they haven't played a divisional game yet and to pencil them in as a Super Bowl champion is a bit of a stretch at this point in the season. They've got 8 more games left and 6 of them are intradivision. Their record is what it is and I commend them for that. But I caution Bills fans (or bandwagoners) from getting the train so soon. Vikings fans can relate to great starts and pathetic endings.

I love hypothetical discussions, lol - who cares if it didn't happen it did. The first fumble by Rivers was the only play that he caused himself. Mitchells INT was due to him reading the play and Rivers not seeing him. The second fumble was due to Mitchell doing a delayed blitz and catching them off guard.

Honestly who in the AFC East do you think is better then the Bills right now?

Maybe the Bills will get some sort of credit when they beat the Patriots - because honestly I am sick of all the media just covering the Pats and Cowboys constantly.

All this will be answered in a couple of weeks when the Bills pretty much play the entire AFC East. I personally am very much looking forward to week 17 when the Bills and Pats meet again. That game may have huge playoff implications. A question to the Bills fans, how was the team's roster changed from last year? This may rile some of you up but is the Bills improvement from last year due to the team vastly improving or due to the competition not living up to expectations. I personally think it's alittle bit of both.

All this will be answered in a couple of weeks when the Bills pretty much play the entire AFC East. I personally am very much looking forward to week 17 when the Bills and Pats meet again. That game may have huge playoff implications. A question to the Bills fans, how was the team's roster changed from last year? This may rile some of you up but is the Bills improvement from last year due to the team vastly improving or due to the competition not living up to expectations. I personally think it's alittle bit of both.

It has actually changed a decent amount

On Defense:
Added Marcus Stroud
Added Kawika Mitchell
Got Posluszny healthy (only played 2 games last year)
Added CB Depth with McKelvin


On Offense:
Named Trent Edwards the starter, without any doubts
Drafted a big WR in Hardy (hasn't done a ton, but did win them a game)

Not a lot of changes on Offense, but on the defensive side of the ball they have changed a lot.

All this will be answered in a couple of weeks when the Bills pretty much play the entire AFC East. I personally am very much looking forward to week 17 when the Bills and Pats meet again. That game may have huge playoff implications. A question to the Bills fans, how was the team's roster changed from last year? This may rile some of you up but is the Bills improvement from last year due to the team vastly improving or due to the competition not living up to expectations. I personally think it's alittle bit of both.

There is also the fact that they have a year under their belt as a team. Everyone settles in, learns the offense, knows what a QB or receiver might do if covered. How each individual reacts in response to a defense. Just because there aren't a lot of personell changes means little.

Stephen

some of buffalos wins weren't decisive enough to put them in the playoffs yet.
you need to spank a couple of teams to be called good.
the o line blocks pretty good for edwards, but needs to improve.
blocking is blocking, weather for the qb or the rb, which leads me to believe that lynch isn't as good as he thinks he is.

There is also the fact that they have a year under their belt as a team. Everyone settles in, learns the offense, knows what a QB or receiver might do if covered. How each individual reacts in response to a defense. Just because there aren't a lot of personell changes means little.

Stephen


I disagree with that. I think personal change has a lot to do with how well a team does. I agree that playing together for awhile helps but I think personal change has a major impact. I don't really care how many years the Lions have under their belt playing together, the personal there can't win. I don't follow the Bills so I wasn't sure if there was a major change in personal because I don't believe they were that good last year.

offensively they got a much more experienced Trent Edwards...1 year of experience makes a huge difference especially from a rookie season. He's like a new player this year. Marshawn has yet to prove his beast mpde but I have to believe he will eventually. Lee Evans is off to a pro bowl season this year. And there defense has been good in every game except Arizona. There special teams is the best in the NFL

some of buffalos wins weren't decisive enough to put them in the playoffs yet.
you need to spank a couple of teams to be called good.
the o line blocks pretty good for edwards, but needs to improve.
blocking is blocking, weather for the qb or the rb, which leads me to believe that lynch isn't as good as he thinks he is.


No your last statement (along with numerous others these past few days), just show you have no clue about the game of football at all.

Pass blocking and Run blocking are not even close to the same thing.

i agree bearfield your comments inquire you know little knowledge of the game

okay, so i don't jump on the bandwagon when they are 5-1, they already lost 4 superbowls, and you guys think they will get a chance to try for 5, after 6 weeks. smoke the weed much???

#1bills fan, what the heck does this mean??? or are you just jumping on the bandwagon because i don't quite buy what is being sold here.
i agree bearfield your comments inquire you know little knowledge of the game.

wnysupport, this is lynches second year, duh, where exactly is this BEAST?
good running backs manage to get yards without blockers, and you can't say the bills don't have blockers, they block for edwards. its simple, either the line can block or they can't. edwards is managing pretty well, lynch isn't. don't be blaming the O line, or me, because lynch isn't living up to what you want him to. it looks like lynch isn't cutting it and you want to say i don't know anything, because i point it out. its called facing facts. its also called being around long enough to be able to tell..

okay, so i don't jump on the bandwagon when they are 5-1, they already lost 4 superbowls, and you guys think they will get a chance to try for 5, after 6 weeks. smoke the weed much???

#1bills fan, what the heck does this mean??? or are you just jumping on the bandwagon because i don't quite buy what is being sold here.
i agree bearfield your comments inquire you know little knowledge of the game.

wnysupport, this is lynches second year, duh, where exactly is this BEAST?
good running backs manage to get yards without blockers, and you can't say the bills don't have blockers, they block for edwards. its simple, either the line can block or they can't. edwards is managing pretty well, lynch isn't. don't be blaming the O line, or me, because lynch isn't living up to what you want him to. it looks like lynch isn't cutting it and you want to say i don't know anything, because i point it out. its called facing facts. its also called being around long enough to be able to tell..

LOL - seriously you thinking run blocking and pass blocking are the same thing is one of the funniest things I have read on a sports message board in a long time. Saying either they can block or not, just reinforces the point that you have no clue what you are talking about in regards to football.

I appreciate peoples' opinions', especially when they differ from mine - but when the points they are trying to convey make no sense (in this example, you continuously stating "Either the line can block or they can't") then it's not worth the time to refute those points.

It's simple - you post in numerous threads about teams you don't like, just to get a rise out of people. Yet you then refuse to state which teams you like, so people can counter your arguments with the opposing argument.

With that all being said, I appreciate that you think everyone posting here are on the 'bandwagon', but for me personally I have been a Bills fan through the good times and the bad for as long as I have been able to watch football. (Which I started watching them when I was 6 in 1984)

I've never played, but I've heard enough to know that there is a difference between run blocking and pass blocking. When pass blocking, the line just has to keep the defense from getting by them. When run blocking, they have to try and blow the d-linemen off the line to open up holes for the RB.

I think it's pretty obvious that the Bills are having trouble run blocking since Lynch never has any holes to run through. Count how many times he gets hit behind the line of scrimage.

I've never played, but I've heard enough to know that there is a difference between run blocking and pass blocking. When pass blocking, the line just has to keep the defense from getting by them. When run blocking, they have to try and blow the d-linemen off the line to open up holes for the RB.

I think it's pretty obvious that the Bills are having trouble run blocking since Lynch never has any holes to run through. Count how many times he gets hit behind the line of scrimage.

In a basic sense, exactly right.

Another thing, in pass blocking you normally step back or react to the movement of the pass rushers. During run blocking it's planned movement, as well as linemen stunting to exact positions in order to open holes.

Also during pass blocking the linemen stay on the line and block the DLine, during run blocking they push forward and can follow the back down the field.

LOL - seriously you thinking run blocking and pass blocking are the same thing is one of the funniest things I have read on a sports message board in a long time. Saying either they can block or not, just reinforces the point that you have no clue what you are talking about in regards to football.

I appreciate peoples' opinions', especially when they differ from mine - but when the points they are trying to convey make no sense (in this example, you continuously stating "Either the line can block or they can't") then it's not worth the time to refute those points.

It's simple - you post in numerous threads about teams you don't like, just to get a rise out of people. Yet you then refuse to state which teams you like, so people can counter your arguments with the opposing argument.

With that all being said, I appreciate that you think everyone posting here are on the 'bandwagon', but for me personally I have been a Bills fan through the good times and the bad for as long as I have been able to watch football. (Which I started watching them when I was 6 in 1984)

you are saying the line can block for the qb and not block for the rb. i say that they can either block or they can't, and that lynch doesn't appear to be the BEAST he calls himself. thats sort of humerous.

i have already stated that i haven't had a favorite team since montana retired, and i haven't liked the bills since 91, and that i just like players.
please explain, why do i have to have a team. so i can go rah rah.
i don't like the bills, i do like edwards, and i don't like lynch, because he hasn't shown enough, actually, he hasn't shown anything, and still calls himself beast.
did peterson have a good O line last year? i think not.
barry sanders never had any kind of an a O line. how did he do?
how about jim brown? do you remember cookie gilchrist?
proves a good running back doesn't necessarily have to have a good O line.
buffalo has a fair O line, so i blame the "beast"----ha ha ha.

will your next excuse be the coaching or play calling?

i also like favre, because of his durability, class, and the fact that he is old, and some people said he should step aside and let the young people play, and he basically told them to rub salt.

Hey look Bearfield out trolling again, Gotta love 60 year old guys picking fights in every thread with guys have his age. Is Lockport that boring.
Do not forget Bearfields last favorite team was The Chiefs in 94 hahahahaha

bearfield u tihkn im jumping on the bangwagon? ive been a bills fan forever i live in buffalo...your 60 years old trying to tell us bills fan we have no RB...well see if this beast turns out i can guarantee he will..liking players is more of a bandwagon fan you like any good players it sounds to me. you like montana huh? thats all of a sudden your favorite team because they have the best QB ever...haha learn the game before you come and talk smack about our RB

you like favre to huh? haha another top 3 QB you are just awesome at picking players

you like favre to huh? haha another top 3 QB you are just awesome at picking players

Umm, he did say he liked Edwards but apparently with you taking everything so personal, obviousely missed that part.

bearfield u tihkn im jumping on the bangwagon? ive been a bills fan forever i live in buffalo...your 60 years old trying to tell us bills fan we have no RB...well see if this beast turns out i can guarantee he will..liking players is more of a bandwagon fan you like any good players it sounds to me. you like montana huh? thats all of a sudden your favorite team because they have the best QB ever...haha learn the game before you come and talk smack about our RB

i didn't say montana was my favorite player, i said "I HAVEN'T HAD A FAVORITE TEAM SINCE MONTANA RETIRED" have a little problem with reading comprension, do you? you are in what grade, 9th or 10th?

been a bills fan forever, have you?
how long is that seeing as you are only 15? 3 months?
if i was talking smack about lynch, i would have mentioned his driving while intoxicated and leaving the scene of an accident. shows real class, about the same as calling yourself "beast".

i live in buffalo too, and i'm well aware of all the coaching and player foulups, and there have been a lot of them over the years. are you a losman as well as a rob johnson fan? theres a couple of real losers. from what he has shown, your "beast" looks to turn out the same way.
listen, its no big deal, buffalo will draft another rb next year and you can jump on his wagon.

i did explain why i like favre, which part of that didn't you inderstand? i would have explained better, but, i don't know how to use crayons on here.

and the guy posting after your last post points out that i also like edwards, which you apparently missed.

one more thing, if there are people posting i don't respond to, its because they are on my ignore list.

There always seems to be one in a bunch.

Why is it so hard to understand that people like to see the Bills playing well, i.e. good football? That doesn't make it a bandwagon nor limit it to such. There are several teams I root for and not solely limited to the Steelers (although they are my favorite - there's that bandwagon again, huh?). I enjoy seeing the Bills, Chargers, Jaguars, Pats and the aforementioned Steelers win.

I also enjoy seeing the Colts and the Cowboys lose. Embarrassingly.

So whether your 15 and on here because you want to laud the Bills or 39 like me and want to engage in some sort of intelligent conversation about a team doing well - then so be it.

I guess there just has to be a loud-mouthed, uninformed, overly pompous hater.

Stephen

There always seems to be one in a bunch.

Why is it so hard to understand that people like to see the Bills playing well, i.e. good football? That doesn't make it a bandwagon nor limit it to such. There are several teams I root for and not solely limited to the Steelers (although they are my favorite - there's that bandwagon again, huh?). I enjoy seeing the Bills, Chargers, Jaguars, Pats and the aforementioned Steelers win.

I also enjoy seeing the Colts and the Cowboys lose. Embarrassingly.

So whether your 15 and on here because you want to laud the Bills or 39 like me and want to engage in some sort of intelligent conversation about a team doing well - then so be it.

I guess there just has to be a loud-mouthed, uninformed, overly pompous hater.

Stephen

hey, if you're referring to me, i never said i hated the bills, i said, what is obvious, that lynch, the self proclaimed "BEAST" isn't doing as good as he thinks he is. do people have a problem with the truth? even when spouted by someone you call a loud-mouthed, uninformed, overly pompous hater. :-)

i didn't say montana was my favorite player, i said "I HAVEN'T HAD A FAVORITE TEAM SINCE MONTANA RETIRED" have a little problem with reading comprension, do you? you are in what grade, 9th or 10th?

been a bills fan forever, have you?
how long is that seeing as you are only 15? 3 months?
if i was talking smack about lynch, i would have mentioned his driving while intoxicated and leaving the scene of an accident. shows real class, about the same as calling yourself "beast".

i live in buffalo too, and i'm well aware of all the coaching and player foulups, and there have been a lot of them over the years. are you a losman as well as a rob johnson fan? theres a couple of real losers. from what he has shown, your "beast" looks to turn out the same way.
listen, its no big deal, buffalo will draft another rb next year and you can jump on his wagon.

i did explain why i like favre, which part of that didn't you inderstand? i would have explained better, but, i don't know how to use crayons on here.

and the guy posting after your last post points out that i also like edwards, which you apparently missed.

one more thing, if there are people posting i don't respond to, its because they are on my ignore list.
So he confirmed it. He is a chiefs fan but will not admit it...Gotta love it. He even points out he is 45 year older then some and still thinks it is ok. Sort of odd? (god I hate when I have typos lol)

Gotta love it. He even points out he is 45 year older then some and still thinks it os ok. Sort of odd?

The best, is that he still doesnt' understand the difference between pass and run blocking - AND - he continues to state his opinion as being fact.

I guess that happens when you start losing your mind :confused0024:

The best, is that he still doesnt' understand the difference between pass and run blocking - AND - he continues to state his opinion as being fact.

I guess that happens when you start losing your mind :confused0024:

you know, its odd that the teams that have good pass blocking also have good run blocking, or haven't you been paying enough attention to teams other than your own, to be aware of that fact.
if you were, then you know its a fact, not an opinion.

i see the guy on my ignore list has reared his head, with a comment. as if he or his opinions really matter to anybody, or at least to me.

ATTENTION EVERYBODY, IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
i happen to like edwards, if it happens that he turns out like losman or johnson, i'll drop his cards as fast as i put people on my ignore list.
appearently i don't care for lynch. he has shown me cause not to.
i don't collect losers, who does, and who can't comprehend that?
i collect hofers and older players i like, if someone has a problem with that, its their problem, same as if they have a problem when i point out players faults. get over it, develop some tolerance, or put me on your ignore list.
its that simple, and i won't even care, or cry.
yes, i have an attitude and no tolerance for some, and the mods have chastised me a couple times.

DISCLAIMER.
i am not talking down to anybody, at least i don't mean to. if anybody takes it that way, i apologise.

this whole subject really isn't that important, considering all the bad things that are going on in the world.

Alright guys, lets tone it down a bit in here and get back to the topic of this thread. Thanks!

Jason

bearfield-please do not post again. you start problems in almost every discussion thread you go to. whether your 5 or 100 i dont care you have knowledge of the game. it seems to me that your saying were jumping on lynch's bandwagon but yet you jumped on edwards bandwagon when he started playing well.

bearfield-please do not post again. you start problems in almost every discussion thread you go to. whether your 5 or 100 i dont care you have knowledge of the game. it seems to me that your saying were jumping on lynch's bandwagon but yet you jumped on edwards bandwagon when he started playing well.

i don't like lynch because he hasn't done squat, if you don't like it, you can always cry to someone, but not me.
i've been picking up edwards since last year, as if what i do is any of your business. you can stop the bandwagon line, its not working. but if you can come up with a $100 hof auto i like, i'll trade you this for it.

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check it out. i'm sure you will appreciate it.

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So he confirmed it. He is a chiefs fan but will not admit it...Gotta love it. He even points out he is 45 year older then some and still thinks it is ok. Sort of odd? (god I hate when I have typos lol)

Leave it to the Steelers fan to jump in j/k lol