Who wins?

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Ohio State, just to make crap difficult.

Biased, but OSU 31-24.

If Penn State and Alabama lose I would say Texas and USC go to the National Championship. If Alabama and Penn State remain undefeated it will be tough to see who goes against Texas!

Being born and raised in Penn State country I am definitely going with Penn State..Thanks Ed

I'm hoping Penn State wins.

I'm hoping Penn State wins.

You would. :wave:

You would. :wave:


:pound: Nothing against you or the Buckeyes, but I can't ever go against Joe Pa. Without a doubt the toughest coach in the NCAA :sign0020:

:pound: Nothing against you or the Buckeyes, but I can't ever go against Joe Pa. Without a doubt the toughest coach in the NCAA :sign0020:
I know, just giving ya a hard time :tongue0011:

Penn state

Ohio St.

:pray: Please Penn State, please win :pray:

Sorry Mike but I'm gonna have to move your thread to the correct forum :)

I hope Penn State kicks their .......

Dave

Hmm...I wonder who I'm going to pick to win.

O-H!

So I don't have to listen to PSU fans anymore, GO BUCKEYES!!!!!

Jason

So I don't have to listen to PSU fans anymore, GO BUCKEYES!!!!!

Jason

Nothing worse than a Notre Dame fan who ALSO cheers for Ohio State. As I told Jason, I root for three teams: Michigan, whoever is playing OSU, and whoever is playing Notre Dame.

I am by no means an OSU fan. I am just sick of listening to PSU fans around here.

Jason

Ohio State cant match up with Penn State.

Penn State wins by 10

Living in Pittsburgh, I hope Terrelle Pryor has a good game but with PSU winning.

The Ohio State University.

Penn St will win by 14 or more. Ohio St has had a number of close games with weaker schools. they just dont have the chemistry. Penn St has been absolutely blowing out everyone they've faced.

Being bias myself, Ohio State will win this. It will be a close game. 23-17 Ohio State Wins!

No. 10 Ohio St. (plus-2.5) over No. 3 Penn St.

Ohio State's defense came up big against Michigan State, shutting down MSU's red-hot RB Javon Ringer. There's no reason not to expect James Laurinaitis and the rest of the Buckeyes defense to do the same to the Penn State offense.


Gotta like that!

I think Penn State wins 2-0 after a last second safety.

No. 10 Ohio St. (plus-2.5) over No. 3 Penn St.

Ohio State's defense came up big against Michigan State, shutting down MSU's red-hot RB Javon Ringer. There's no reason not to expect James Laurinaitis and the rest of the Buckeyes defense to do the same to the Penn State offense.


Gotta like that!

How did they do at Madison. I know the Lions won 48-7 there. Was not sure about the Buckeyes

No. 10 Ohio St. (plus-2.5) over No. 3 Penn St.

Ohio State's defense came up big against Michigan State, shutting down MSU's red-hot RB Javon Ringer. There's no reason not to expect James Laurinaitis and the rest of the Buckeyes defense to do the same to the Penn State offense.


Gotta like that!


Are you serious? Do you know how many points Penn State averages a game? If any defense finds a way to cover norwood, butler, and williams, Royster will run over and around the defense. OSU's D has no chance. Penn State is gonna score a lot of points in this game

How did they do at Madison. I know the Lions won 48-7 there. Was not sure about the Buckeyes

That was the game where OSU was embarrased the whole game and just barely squeaked out a win.

Didnt you see what they did to Ringer of Michigan State? Held one of the nations top rushers to only 67 yards.

Pryor has stepped up big, that guy is a beast (wow, might be the first time i agree with buckeyejosh lol j/k). I like Penn State to win though, I can never go against Joe Pa

Are you serious? Do you know how many points Penn State averages a game? If any defense finds a way to cover norwood, butler, and williams, Royster will run over and around the defense. OSU's D has no chance. Penn State is gonna score a lot of points in this game

Have you seen the teams PSU has played this year? I really don't consider Costal Carolina, Oregon State, Syracuse, Temple, or Purdue great teams this year. Heck, Michigan is struggling this year as well. I am so sick of hearing about how great PSU's offense is when they play teams with pretty bad defenses.

Jason

Have you seen the teams PSU has played this year? I really don't consider Costal Carolina, Oregon State, Syracuse, Temple, or Purdue great teams this year. Heck, Michigan is struggling this year as well. I am so sick of hearing about how great PSU's offense is when they play teams with pretty bad defenses.

Jason

Amen to that! :love0030:

Pryor has stepped up big, that guy is a beast (wow, might be the first time i agree with buckeyejosh lol j/k). I like Penn State to win though, I can never go against Joe Pa

Just come over to this side, it's better over here. :sign0020:

Line: Penn State -1.5
It's statement time for the two superpowers of the 2008 Big Ten season. Michigan hasn't shown up, Wisconsin has melted down, and Michigan State showed its colors last week in the 45-7 home loss to the Buckeyes. With all due respect to Minnesota and Northwestern, the world revolves around Penn State and Ohio State, and for the BCS and the national title chase, this will be a key piece of the puzzle.

Outside of a major meltdown, these two will likely end up in the BCS in some way, shape or form with the winner almost certainly to be Rose Bowl bound, at worst, while Penn State is shooting for more. A lot more. After a sluggish start last week, the Nittany Lions blew past Michigan for a 46-17 win and yet another dominant, impressive victory. Next week's trip at Iowa will be dangerous, but the final two home games are against Indiana and Michigan State. A win this week would show that the national title really is within reach, while a loss would likely mean a BCS game other than the Rose. The offense is cranking out 482 yards a game, the defense is the best in the Big Ten, and the confidence and execution have been there from day one. However, getting past Ohio State in Columbus is a whole other ball game for a team that has faced the 100th ranked schedule so far.

For Ohio State, this is the game the team has been working towards for the last six weeks ever since the disaster against USC. With Terrelle Pryor firmly entrenched as the starting quarterback and the leader of the offense, and with Beanie Wells rumbling, even if he's at a self-described 80%, this is a far different offense than the one that sputtered and coughed over the first few games of the season. Beating Penn State would bring the respect the program has been lacking ever since it got blasted by LSU in the 2008 BCS Championship Game, and while a third straight trip to the title game might seem out of the question, the discussion could start if the Buckeyes win in a blowout. OSU has won five of the last six in the series.


Prediction: Ohio St. 23 ... Penn St. 20


source: http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/173612/Fearless-Predictions-for-Week-9?MSNHPHMA

I can't go against Joe Pa so I think Penn St wins it and Derrick Williams scores at least once, maybe twice.

I can't go against Joe Pa so I think Penn St wins it and Derrick Williams scores at least once, maybe twice.

Laurinaitis will shut him down ;) :boxing:

Laurinaitis will shut him down ;) :boxing:

I don't know about that..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pHAFR60HKo

Have you seen the teams PSU has played this year? I really don't consider Costal Carolina, Oregon State, Syracuse, Temple, or Purdue great teams this year. Heck, Michigan is struggling this year as well. I am so sick of hearing about how great PSU's offense is when they play teams with pretty bad defenses.

Jason

I dont consider them great teams either, but scoring 50 points against any team using the second and third string for the better part of the second half is still impressive. And Oregon State. Wasnt there a number 1 team that they beat this year? O yeah USC

Laurinaitis will shut him down ;) :boxing:

Penn State has so many weapons that even if they shut any one player down there is still going to be people open

I don't know about that..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pHAFR60HKo

Great video

I dont consider them great teams either, but scoring 50 points against any team using the second and third string for the better part of the second half is still impressive. And Oregon State. Wasnt there a number 1 team that they beat this year? O yeah USC

Alright, but how many of those 50 points came from the first string beating up the bad defense? Also, another thing I cannot stand. Just because PSU beat Oregon State beat USC, Oregon State is automatically a great team. It is called an upset, they happen all the time. Did you call Appalachian State great after they beat Michigan a couple years ago? (sorry I have to bring up the bad memory Ryan haha) I know I didn't, it was an upset.

Jason

So with the schedule Penn State has played look below, which team even matches the talent of Ohio State?

Coastal Carolina
Oregon State
Syracuse
Temple
Illinois
Purdue
Wisconsin
Michigan


Heh None! OSU all the way!!

Alright, but how many of those 50 points came from the first string beating up the bad defense? Also, another thing I cannot stand. Just because PSU beat Oregon State beat USC, Oregon State is automatically a great team. It is called an upset, they happen all the time. Did you call Appalachian State great after they beat Michigan a couple years ago? (sorry I have to bring up the bad memory Ryan haha) I know I didn't, it was an upset.

Jason

Suprisingly, the second string scored a lot of points. Yes I know there are upsets. But upsets come from playing poorly, and Penn State has not done that all year, as OSU has.

So with the schedule Penn State has played look below, which team even matches the talent of Ohio State?

Coastal Carolina
Oregon State
Syracuse
Temple
Illinois
Purdue
Wisconsin
Michigan


Heh None! OSU all the way!!

Wisconsin was ranked in or near the top 10 at the beginning of the season I believe. Illinois has a lot of talent, they just dont know how to use it. Penn State hasnt had the super easy schedule that everybody thinks they have. I know it wasnt the hardest schedule, but it certainly wasnt the easiest.

Alright, but how many of those 50 points came from the first string beating up the bad defense? Also, another thing I cannot stand. Just because PSU beat Oregon State beat USC, Oregon State is automatically a great team. It is called an upset, they happen all the time. Did you call Appalachian State great after they beat Michigan a couple years ago? (sorry I have to bring up the bad memory Ryan haha) I know I didn't, it was an upset.

Jason

OUCH Jason. 25 yard penalty on Jason for hitting below the belt.

Go buckeyes!

The D is shutting down this "amazing" Penn State team everyone has been riding!

LETS GO BUCKS! FINISH THIS BABY OUT!

OSU is still ranked #9....so of course they are expected to do better than most against Penn State...PSU has an "amazing" offense, but I will certainly concede that Ohio State's defense has played up to par.

As far as the actual game is going -- defensive game for the ages....
but I still think Penn State is looking better offensively than Ohio State

The D is shutting down this "amazing" Penn State team everyone has been riding!

LETS GO BUCKS! FINISH THIS BABY OUT!

Will be dissapointing if Pryor costs OSU the game. He's good but I'm not sold on his passing ability.
OSU's KR aren't getting it done today and the receivers aren't much better. I find it hard to believe that no TE has gotten open either.

hopefully penn state can salt this one away, i don't want any shot at wasting another potentially good bcs game seeing ohio state get plastered by texas,bama, UF(again), uga, basically any team they may play in a bcs game, i'd rather see a new big 10 team get plastered by someone out of conference

I think this game proves, even though it looks like Penn State is gonna win, they have NO RIGHT being in the National Championship game. They'd get crushed. They aren't that good.

The D is shutting down this "amazing" Penn State team everyone has been riding!

LETS GO BUCKS! FINISH THIS BABY OUT!

Besides stupid penalties!

I think this game proves, even though it looks like Penn State is gonna win, they have NO RIGHT being in the National Championship game. They'd get crushed. They aren't that good.
Sorta like the Buckeyes the last two years.....

I think this game proves, even though it looks like Penn State is gonna win, they have NO RIGHT being in the National Championship game. They'd get crushed. They aren't that good.

Agreed, looks like it really should be Alabama and Texas as both have played well against top notch competition.

Sorta like the Buckeyes the last two years.....

I wouldn't go that far. Those OSU teams were much better.

Nice stop!

the sad part is, penn state winning this game almost guarantees them a spot in the title game, preventing everyone from seeing a decent game between 2 really good football teams, instead of 1 good team and a "i only got in because my conference is atrocious team"

well...if Texas or Alabama loses, Penn State just might get the chance to prove you wrong

I think this game proves, even though it looks like Penn State is gonna win, they have NO RIGHT being in the National Championship game. They'd get crushed. They aren't that good.

the sad part is, penn state winning this game almost guarantees them a spot in the title game, preventing everyone from seeing a decent game between 2 really good football teams, instead of 1 good team and a "i only got in because my conference is atrocious team"

I agree, I would feel better about PSU playing in the Championship game if they were destroying OSU, who has a an avg at best passing game.

There we go boys...nice pick....now shut these guys up...

horrible pass ....that guy was under triple coverage

Can Pryor succed in the passing game. So far he really isn't getting it done. Pryor cost them the game today with his fumble and interception. With all the hype I'm not seeing it on the field except his athletic ability. Other freshman QB's can have some success so why can't Pryor? I'm not sold on him as a QB who get it done in the passing game.

Ok lets hear it all you Lion haters. Lets hear how Penn State hasnt faced any real challenges. Lets hear it how their defense and offense cant match up with the "good" teams.

He's a true freshman, playing in the first big game of his career. And if he doesn't fumble, they win.

Penn State is overrated. They'd get blown out in the Championship game, worse than either Buckeyes team did the past two years.

I think this game proves, even though it looks like Penn State is gonna win, they have NO RIGHT being in the National Championship game. They'd get crushed. They aren't that good.

They arent that good? Their go ahead drive was with a backup qb. Before the game everybody was praising OSU and now penn state barely beat them and shut them down, but they arent good. Your right my bad

He's a true freshman, playing in the first big game of his career. And if he doesn't fumble, they win.

Penn State is overrated. They'd get blown out in the Championship game, worse than either Buckeyes team did the past two years.

Once again. OSU got all the praise and now they lose but Penn State isnt that good

They arent that good? Their go ahead drive was with a backup qb. Before the game everybody was praising OSU and now penn state barely beat them and shut them down, but they arent good. Your right my bad

A fluke fumble gave them the win. What game were you watching?

You're running your mouth like Penn State just dominated that game.

Not sure if you paid attention, but OSU owned them for 50 of the 60 minutes of football. No fumble, no win for your "amazing" Lions. Get over it. They'd get blown out by a good team.

Congrats to PSU and good luck the rest of the season.

A fluke fumble gave them the win. What game were you watching?

You're running your mouth like Penn State just dominated that game.

Not sure if you paid attention, but OSU owned them for 50 of the 60 minutes of football. No fumble, no win for your "amazing" Lions. Get over it. They'd get blown out by a good team.

How exactly did OSU own them?? It was an even game but the better team won. Both offenses were off but Penn States D "owned" Beanie and the OSU O-line. And before this game OSU was a good team. What happened?

He's a true freshman, playing in the first big game of his career. And if he doesn't fumble, they win.

Penn State is overrated. They'd get blown out in the Championship game, worse than either Buckeyes team did the past two years.

I'm sorry but he (Pryor) cost them the game. PSU might be over rated but they beat OSU and scored when they had too.

He's a true freshman, playing in the first big game of his career. And if he doesn't fumble, they win.

Penn State is overrated. They'd get blown out in the Championship game, worse than either Buckeyes team did the past two years.

I'm sorry but he (Pryor) cost them the game. PSU might be over rated but they beat OSU and scored when they had too.

....I know, that was my point.

If he doesn't fumble, Penn State doesn't win. People need to stop acting like Penn State won this game. They didn't. Ohio State lost it.

There's a BIG difference.

I'm sorry but he (Pryor) cost them the game. PSU might be over rated but they beat OSU and scored when they had too.

....I know, that was my point.

If he doesn't fumble, Penn State doesn't win. People need to stop acting like Penn State won this game. They didn't. Ohio State lost it.

There's a BIG difference.[/QUOTE]

Penn State did win this game. 0 penalties. 0 turnovers. Great run defense. They won

....I know, that was my point.

If he doesn't fumble, Penn State doesn't win. People need to stop acting like Penn State won this game. They didn't. Ohio State lost it.

There's a BIG difference.

Penn State did win this game. 0 penalties. 0 turnovers. Great run defense. They won[/quote]

You're missing the point. Regardless of that, if Pryor doesn't fumble, they DON'T WIN.

How exactly did OSU own them?? It was an even game but the better team won. Both offenses were off but Penn States D "owned" Beanie and the OSU O-line. And before this game OSU was a good team. What happened?

They were facing a a one dimensional team who can't pass consistently. Not hard to stop the running game when that happens.

Penn State did win this game. 0 penalties. 0 turnovers. Great run defense. They won

You're missing the point. Regardless of that, if Pryor doesn't fumble, they DON'T WIN.[/QUOTE]


Pryor fumbled with ten minutes left. PSU would have gotten the ball back at least twice more if he didnt fumble

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They were facing a a one dimensional team who can't pass consistently. Not hard to stop the running game when that happens.

They had consistent passing tonight. Why is it so hard for every other team to stop Beanie and Pryor?

OSU had their chance on that last drive. Kudos to Penn State for taking advantage of OSU's mistakes

You're missing the point. Regardless of that, if Pryor doesn't fumble, they DON'T WIN.


Pryor fumbled with ten minutes left. PSU would have gotten the ball back at least twice more if he didnt fumble[/quote]

And they didn't drive the length of the field once the entire game. They got 50 yards MAX on any drive all game. He doesn't fumble, they never have a shot at another Touchdown.

....I know, that was my point.

If he doesn't fumble, Penn State doesn't win. People need to stop acting like Penn State won this game. They didn't. Ohio State lost it.

There's a BIG difference.

Penn State did win this game. 0 penalties. 0 turnovers. Great run defense. They won[/quote]

Agreed, error free football and that wins games.

Pryor fumbled with ten minutes left. PSU would have gotten the ball back at least twice more if he didnt fumble

And they didn't drive the length of the field once the entire game. They got 50 yards MAX on any drive all game. He doesn't fumble, they never have a shot at another Touchdown.[/QUOTE]

They wouldnt have had to go the entire field. And keep in mind, that whole possession after the fumble they had a backup qb who has seen about 4 quarters worth of play all year

Penn State did win this game. 0 penalties. 0 turnovers. Great run defense. They won

Agreed, error free football and that wins games.[/QUOTE]


Thank you

They wouldnt have had to go the entire field. And keep in mind, that whole possession after the fumble they had a backup qb who has seen about 4 quarters worth of play all year

You never know though. You'd be basing that off the fact that PSU's KR's would have had decent returns. That's my only point. I'm not trying to make you mad or anything, I'm just saying.....the defense didn't let them drive the whole field once the entire game. Add in the backup, and you can't honestly expect that to have changed.

Which goes back to my point, if Pryor doesn't fumble, Penn State wouldn't have scored a TD in the game. They couldn't take it down on OSU the length of the field.

You never know though. You'd be basing that off the fact that PSU's KR's would have had decent returns. That's my only point. I'm not trying to make you mad or anything, I'm just saying.....the defense didn't let them drive the whole field once the entire game. Add in the backup, and you can't honestly expect that to have changed.

Which goes back to my point, if Pryor doesn't fumble, Penn State wouldn't have scored a TD in the game. They couldn't take it down on OSU the length of the field.


State did drive 70 some yards and got a field goal. They could have done that again in the clutch, and suprisingly Devlin stepped up and led the team when they needed him.

You never know though. You'd be basing that off the fact that PSU's KR's would have had decent returns. That's my only point. I'm not trying to make you mad or anything, I'm just saying.....the defense didn't let them drive the whole field once the entire game. Add in the backup, and you can't honestly expect that to have changed.

Which goes back to my point, if Pryor doesn't fumble, Penn State wouldn't have scored a TD in the game. They couldn't take it down on OSU the length of the field.

The two pass interference penalties and the late face mask penalty really hurt.

State did drive 70 some yards and got a field goal. They could have done that again in the clutch, and suprisingly Devlin stepped up and led the team when they needed him.

The facemask penalty helped that drive and the runner was going down when that happened.

The facemask penalty helped that drive and the runner was going down when that happened.

Im talking about the one at the end of the first half

Im talking about the one at the end of the first half

Gotcha.

If I remember correctly there was an Offensive Pass interference against Penn State in the first half, what happened to that penalty.

Its like ABC forgot about it.

Hats off to Penn State :(

it pains me to say as a big 10 fan, but the point of the whole thing is that the big 10 is a very very poor conference on the whole, it's proved every year when the "class" of the big 10 makes a big bowl game and gets trounced, penn state has won 4 or 5 straight bowl games now, but thats been in the very mid level bowls, they almost certainly now will be facing a team in the national title game barring any major slip-ups who will likely out class them in every phase of the game

If I remember correctly there was an Offensive Pass interference against Penn State in the first half, what happened to that penalty.

Its like ABC forgot about it.

Hats off to Penn State :(

Hey your right it was on my favorite player Deon Butler. Ok so they played a mostly error free ball game

it pains me to say as a big 10 fan, but the point of the whole thing is that the big 10 is a very very poor conference on the whole, it's proved every year when the "class" of the big 10 makes a big bowl game and gets trounced, penn state has won 4 or 5 straight bowl games now, but thats been in the very mid level bowls, they almost certainly now will be facing a team in the national title game barring any major slip-ups who will likely out class them in every phase of the game

The Big Ten is most every year one of the better conferences. Think about it. How many years do Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa suck? They are almost always all ranked and throw in PSU, OSU, the occasionally ranked Illionois, Mich St and Purdue and thats a pretty **** good conference

Pryor fumbled with ten minutes left. PSU would have gotten the ball back at least twice more if he didnt fumble

And they didn't drive the length of the field once the entire game. They got 50 yards MAX on any drive all game. He doesn't fumble, they never have a shot at another Touchdown.[/QUOTE]

You're just assuming that. Penn State could have clicked and rolled down the field. Who knows? Fact of the matter is that Penn State won this game with their play.

Kudos to Penn State, tough game but well won

The Big Ten is most every year one of the better conferences. Think about it. How many years do Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa suck? They are almost always all ranked and throw in PSU, OSU, the occasionally ranked Illionois, Mich St and Purdue and thats a pretty **** good conference

Though the Big Ten does have ranked teams I do wonder about the overall talent level of the conference this year.

and those teams benefit from playing the weaker teams in the conference, it's not really a debate, michigan is 1-6 i think in there last 7 bowl games, ohio state has been absolutely embarrassed in the last 2 title games, and then they go out of conference to play usc for "redemption" and get steamrolled, the last REALLY good iowa team got beat up in the orange bowl a few years back by USC

The Big Ten is most every year one of the better conferences. Think about it. How many years do Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa suck? They are almost always all ranked and throw in PSU, OSU, the occasionally ranked Illionois, Mich St and Purdue and thats a pretty **** good conference

The thing is, all these teams aren't ranked in the pre-season polls except 1 or maybe 2. All the Big Ten teams start out with easy schedules and start off 3-0 or 4-0 and then they get ranked. Then they start playing conference games and beat each other up. Usually there is one team who does well out of the Big Ten but all other teams in the Big Ten who they beat are overrated because of the weak schedules they all have at the beginning of the year.

By the way, I give props to Penn State. They played well tonight and what would have happened had Pryor not fumbled the ball, I cannot answer but the fact is that you cannot take that play back and speculate on what could have happened, so congrats to PSU (as much as it kills me to say that haha)

Jason

I didn't get to watch the game, but everyone says that if Pryor didn't fumble the ball we would have won. But guess what? There isn't a asterisk beside the score in the books. We lost, now we gotta move on.