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buffalo5edwards 10-23-2008, 05:24 AM Trent Edwards is the best QB out of the 2007 draft. He got knocked down to the 3rd round because of where he went to school and how he did in college, but his stats this season are showing that with a good team, the kid can play. He is playing marginally better than Russell, while other QBs haven't even taken the field. Look at Stanton, and Beck they are being considered busts already by their teams. Edwards is the best QB out of the 2007 draft.
hector234 10-23-2008, 05:45 AM In fairness to Stanton, he hasn't played yet, so until he gets on the field, you can't call him a bust. Edwards has played well though, it's too early to call him the best QB from that class. Quinn hasn't even played yet aswell.
Project 4 10-23-2008, 09:34 AM Trent Edwards is the best QB out of the 2007 draft. He got knocked down to the 3rd round because of where he went to school and how he did in college, but his stats this season are showing that with a good team, the kid can play. He is playing marginally better than Russell, while other QBs haven't even taken the field. Look at Stanton, and Beck they are being considered busts already by their teams. Edwards is the best QB out of the 2007 draft.
You're forgetting about Kevin Kolb. I understand that he's still a backup to a possible future Hall of Famer but you really can't determine how a draft pans out until at least 5 years down the road. Quinn, Stanton as well have not played significant minutes. I'm not to high on Beck however. As for the #1 pick overall it's hard to say. I think he'll be good, not great but we'll see. We'll revisit this threat in 4 more years.
tolrobb3 10-23-2008, 09:46 AM I don't know about that, but I hope Trent has a great game this weekend! I am benching Peyton for him. :whistle:
wnysupport 10-23-2008, 10:02 AM Kolb and Stanton each had there starting QB go down for significant time since they have been in the league and neither were called upon to go in. So I don't think you can consider them in this conversation - since they were #3, not even the backup (though Kolb is the backup now, whereas Feeley was last year)
Quinn is the dark horse, since Anderson while struggling hasn't got hurt to the point where they needed him to go in. The ironic thing with Quinn though, is that if he would have got into camp on time last year he probably would have already had a year under his belt baring injury.
Project 4 10-23-2008, 11:04 AM Kolb and Stanton each had there starting QB go down for significant time since they have been in the league and neither were called upon to go in. So I don't think you can consider them in this conversation - since they were #3, not even the backup (though Kolb is the backup now, whereas Feeley was last year)
Quinn is the dark horse, since Anderson while struggling hasn't got hurt to the point where they needed him to go in. The ironic thing with Quinn though, is that if he would have got into camp on time last year he probably would have already had a year under his belt baring injury.
Mcnabb missed only 2 games since Kolb has been in the league and that was last year. The Eagles were in the middle of a playoff race and didn't want to start someone who was unproven when Mcnabb went down, which is why Feeley got the nod.
Edwards started because he beat out Losman for the starting job. Losman is no Mcnabb and I'm not sure about Stanton's situation. To say Edwards is the best QB out of the draft is really not fair when most of the other QB's have not even had a full season under center let alone Edwards himself.
wnysupport 10-23-2008, 11:16 AM Losman was hurt - Edwards came in, and was successful. So he didn't beat out Losman, he went in after an injury (and JP was only down for 3 weeks I believe), and stayed in.
To say Edwards isn't the best QB out of the draft is not fair, since the others have each (with the exception of Quinn) had the starting QB go down (just like Edwards did) yet the coaches were not confident enough in them, to put them in the game.
Now again - things change, but right now he is by far the most successful QB from the 2007 draft class.
wheeler281 10-23-2008, 11:19 AM Not sure after 5 weeks 1 year from the draft warrants best qb in draft stamp. Lets not get crazy
wnysupport 10-23-2008, 11:22 AM Not sure after 5 weeks 1 year from the draft warrants best qb in draft stamp. Lets not get crazy
I am sure it did for you about Big Ben :sign0020:
Us Buffalo fans, have been waiting for this, you know that being as though you lived in this area, lol
Again - my opinion is right now he is by far the best QB from the draft - but who knows what happens in the future.
Project 4 10-23-2008, 12:11 PM I am sure it did for you about Big Ben :sign0020:
Us Buffalo fans, have been waiting for this, you know that being as though you lived in this area, lol
Again - my opinion is right now he is by far the best QB from the draft - but who knows what happens in the future.
No doubt he is the best QB at this time, but it seemed like the OP was stating that Edwards not only currently, but will be the best QB when all is said and done. That's what I got out of it.
Edwards certainly has proven himself, but to compare his abilities to the other QB's from the 2007 draft would be an unfair assessment.
buffalo5edwards 10-23-2008, 01:23 PM I honestly think the Dolphins have given up on Beck, and with Orlevsky in, instead of Stanton, I think they are showing they don't have much faith. I will admit I did forget Kolb, but I honestly don't think Quinn can match what Edwards is doing. How many 2nd year QBs went 25-30?
jaybird_1981 10-23-2008, 03:03 PM I was actually thinking about this yesterday and came to the conclusion that Edwards will probably be the best from this class. I have been impressed with him so far.
Sir BucNasty 10-23-2008, 03:46 PM Stanton hasnt played because he is still nursing a thumb injury which he had surgery on. Trust me when I say this, Stanton will more than likely be in a game before this season is over.
hector234 10-23-2008, 04:27 PM I honestly think the Dolphins have given up on Beck, and with Orlevsky in, instead of Stanton, I think they are showing they don't have much faith. I will admit I did forget Kolb, but I honestly don't think Quinn can match what Edwards is doing. How many 2nd year QBs went 25-30?
Are you serious bro? You don't think Quinn can match Edwards? Please, let the guy got on the field 1st before you start making assumptions. As wheeler said, you can't base that theory about Edwards being the best QB on 5 games.
lukehoyt19 10-23-2008, 05:28 PM No you cannot call Edwards the best. Why? It is a simple reason really. It has been only 6 games into his season. He has showed us he can manage a game. His numbers aren't that strong. 200 yards a game and less than a TD a game. They are a good team but it is due to a strong running game and defense. Here are QB's from his draft that have started less than 5 games:
Beck
Quinn
Stanton
Kolb
Moore
The average QB in todays game doesn't hit his stride until years 3-5. Eli and Rivers were considered subpar to Roethlisberger coming into their second and third year. But now both are considered equal or better than him. Don't judge to soon. Russel is on the Raiders so he will struggle until he is out of that situation and Quinn won't play until Crennel is fired.
Nice thought but no he is not the best QB out of the draft.
dan243 10-23-2008, 06:06 PM It is to early to tell, like every rookie class you never know until 10 years later. Some guys get a quicker chance to get started and some 1st round picks are your biggest busts. Up to this date Edwards is the better out of them so far. The only player proven out of 2007 class is AP.
#1BILLSfan 10-25-2008, 06:09 PM Edwards will be the best no questions asked. I like Quinn as well but he will not be as good as Edwards is. I say this because Edwards has proven in a year of so he will be the top 3 QBs in the league and you cannot argue with that to what he has proven thus far.
jaybird_1981 10-25-2008, 07:16 PM Edwards will be the best no questions asked. I like Quinn as well but he will not be as good as Edwards is. I say this because Edwards has proven in a year of so he will be the top 3 QBs in the league and you cannot argue with that to what he has proven thus far.
Top 3 in the league? I don't know if I would go that far. He can be a really good quarterback in the league but top 3 is a bit high for any Buffalo quarterback.
Sir BucNasty 10-25-2008, 11:30 PM Edwards will be the best no questions asked. I like Quinn as well but he will not be as good as Edwards is. I say this because Edwards has proven in a year of so he will be the top 3 QBs in the league and you cannot argue with that to what he has proven thus far.
What are you smoking? Top 3? I didnt want to have to go there, but I guess I will. The Bills have played NO ONE really significant that allows all the attention going to Trent Edwards as if he likes the greatest QB of all-time. Hes thrown 5 TDs in 6 games. Everyone praises him like hes Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. I even heard the other day someone saying they would consider him an MVP candidate. Really? Whats he done, besides manage games(because you know an NFL QB isnt paid to be a professional and manage gamesor anything) and beat mediocre and below average teams?
#11 Roy Williams 10-25-2008, 11:57 PM You cannot tell how a player ranks above his class because he bloomed quicker than the others in a draft a year earlier. We don't even know who is the best QB out of the '04 or '05 drafts. They both had late blooming QBs ('04 - Eli and Rivers) and in '05 (Campbell, Rodgers, DA, Orton and maybe even Cassell) while they both had their quick start QBs (Big Ben in '04 and none really in '05). Give it some time before you jump to conclusions. He's been playing great, but he has all the tools around him to be successful. Calling him the best out of the class is rediculous because the draft was just a year earlier and top 3 in the league is just biased or ignorant.
Brees
Romo
Rodgers
Rivers
Warner
Cutler
Are all required to do more in their offenses, but also produce a great TD:INT ratio.
I'll take the 6 I listed above before I take Edwards on any given team with maybe the exception of Warner since he seems like a system QB.
dfr52 10-26-2008, 12:01 AM Edwards has performed the best so far but we'll see in another 4yrs. where each is at with 5 years in the league.
lukehoyt19 10-26-2008, 12:03 AM You cannot tell how a player ranks above his class because he bloomed quicker than the others in a draft a year earlier. We don't even know who is the best QB out of the '04 or '05 drafts. They both had late blooming QBs ('04 - Eli and Rivers) and in '05 (Campbell, Rodgers, DA, Orton and maybe even Cassell) while they both had their quick start QBs (Big Ben in '04 and none really in '05). Give it some time before you jump to conclusions. He's been playing great, but he has all the tools around him to be successful. Calling him the best out of the class is rediculous because the draft was just a year earlier and top 3 in the league is just biased or ignorant.
Brees
Romo
Rodgers
Rivers
Warner
Cutler
Are all required to do more in their offenses, but also produce a great TD:INT ratio.
I'll take the 6 I listed above before I take Edwards on any given team with maybe the exception of Warner since he seems like a system QB.
Are you on crack? You put an unproven QB on their like Rodgers. If you put Rodgers on there then Orton should be on your list also. they have equal stats and Orton is doing it with a rookie RB and WR's that wouldn't even be on a Green Bay roster.
I understand you are saying you would take those guys over Edwards because he is unproven but you are saying you would take another unproven over him in rodgers.
Sometimes I think you disagree just to argue.
#11 Roy Williams 10-26-2008, 12:10 AM Edwards will be the best no questions asked. I like Quinn as well but he will not be as good as Edwards is. I say this because Edwards has proven in a year of so he will be the top 3 QBs in the league and you cannot argue with that to what he has proven thus far.
This is just a stupid comment.
No questions asked? What? Why not? Unless you have a crystal ball your hiding from us, there is no way you can make a smart, unbiased comment on this.
Now, on this one, it's juts rediculous. How the hell has he proven this? He's proven that he can manage a game. Plenty of no-name QBs could manage a game. Only a few were ever considered top 3 QBs. Trent Edwards is not yet a Romo, Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, etc. Put Edwards on the Pats last year, and I'm going to have to imagine they would lose at least 5 games.
#11 Roy Williams 10-26-2008, 12:18 AM Are you on crack? You put an unproven QB on their like Rodgers. If you put Rodgers on there then Orton should be on your list also. they have equal stats and Orton is doing it with a rookie RB and WR's that wouldn't even be on a Green Bay roster.
I understand you are saying you would take those guys over Edwards because he is unproven but you are saying you would take another unproven over him in rodgers.
Sometimes I think you disagree just to argue.
Whoo, sorry! LOL, one player. Calm down. No, I'm not on crack. Rodgers does have better stats. I didn't say those were the most proven players in the entire world, but that was a list of QBs that are playing better. Yes, they have similar stats, but Rodgers has more TDs (2 more pass, 2 more rush), completion percentage and QB rating.
No, I don't disagree to argue. Because I put Aaron Rodgers on my list, is not absurd. Maybe you are disagreeing with me just to argue with me.
Aikman_TheGreat 10-26-2008, 03:45 AM As of now, you are probably correct.
But never underestimate the heart of good ole' humble country boy like Kevik Kolb. I may be biased, but I think he could do great things.
Plus, Quinn hasnt had the chance to prove things, so we'll see.
uptonfan1 10-26-2008, 01:04 PM Edwards will be the best no questions asked. I like Quinn as well but he will not be as good as Edwards is. I say this because Edwards has proven in a year of so he will be the top 3 QBs in the league and you cannot argue with that to what he has proven thus far.
Top 3?? Maybe Top 15 :whistle:
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