Cowboys go three and out. Bucs are moving towards a TD on their first drive. Good times...

Nothing makes me happier than a fake super bowl team being unraveled and losing.

Cowboys suck.

Cowboys suck.

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The Cowboys really need to stop them here and limit them to 3pts.

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Seriously, what is your problem? This has every bit to do with the game. They suck, Im watching them suck. Im watching them with friends who are cowboys fans, and they say they suck.

Remember that cave (your thread about santonio), keep it in mind...

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ok then. Cowboys suck. Watch them go 3 and out again with a useless QB and two overpaid WR's and an overrated RB

The Cowboys really need to stop them here and limit them to 3pts.

They got the stop. Its a field position battle now though. Offense looks flat so far.

On that second down Crayton could of made a block but was too tenative.

ok then. Cowboys suck. Watch them go 3 and out again with a useless QB and two overpaid WR's and an overrated RB

I'll give you the first part but Owens and Barber aren't the problems.

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I'll give you the first part but Owens and Barber aren't the problems.


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3-12 DAL5 (6:33) (Shotgun) M.Barber up the middle to DAL 13 for 8 yards (C.June).


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3-7 DAL10 (7:27) (Shotgun) PENALTY on DAL-F.Adams, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at DAL 10 - No Play.


2-8 DAL9 (7:27) M.Barber left tackle to DAL 10 for 1 yard (D.Brooks).


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1-10 DAL7 (8:07) M.Barber up the middle to DAL 9 for 2 yards (J.Phillips).

Oh and a coach who can't play call. 3-12 a run play. What an idiot at least give your crappy QB and WR's a chance to make a play.

That's two penalties. Again discipline problems.

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3-12 DAL5 (6:33) (Shotgun) M.Barber up the middle to DAL 13 for 8 yards (C.June).


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3-7 DAL10 (7:27) (Shotgun) PENALTY on DAL-F.Adams, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at DAL 10 - No Play.


2-8 DAL9 (7:27) M.Barber left tackle to DAL 10 for 1 yard (D.Brooks).


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1-10 DAL7 (8:07) M.Barber up the middle to DAL 9 for 2 yards (J.Phillips).

Oh and a coach who can't play call. 3-12 a run play. What an idiot at least give your crappy QB and WR's a chance to make a play.

Barber can't run if the line isn't blocking and Johnson just can't pass.

The Cowboys blitz and get no pressure.

Barber can't run if the line isn't blocking and Johnson just can't pass.


Barber is going to get his stats this week because he will be shut down on running downs. Then on third good ole coach is going to say he can't trust Johnson's arm. So they will run the ball with Barber who tampa will allow him to get his yards but not the first down. He is a good RB but he is no where near top in the league like most dallas fans think.

Seriously, what is your problem? This has every bit to do with the game. They suck, Im watching them suck. Im watching them with friends who are cowboys fans, and they say they suck.

Remember that cave (your thread about santonio), keep it in mind...

Didn't realize you were watching the game. So, my apology for the above comment.

I think you need to settle down on your cave talk though. This adds nothing to the discussion other than trying to rip into someone.

As for Holmes, that wasn't my "thread". Check again. I made a post about Holmes being a "letdown" and that is my opinion.

Down 6 by but could be worse.

If the Offense can't sustain a drive the D will wear down and FG will b/c TD's.

At least the D has looked good today. Field position has been terrible for them but they've held. Good think I picked up kicker Matt Bryant. lol :)

Barber is going to get his stats this week because he will be shut down on running downs. Then on third good ole coach is going to say he can't trust Johnson's arm. So they will run the ball with Barber who tampa will allow him to get his yards but not the first down. He is a good RB but he is no where near top in the league like most dallas fans think.

Really? Where do you think he rates?

At least the D has looked good today. Field position has been terrible for them but they've held. Good think I picked up kicker Matt Bryant. lol :)

Hopefully he and the Bucs don't get going today.

I like the Dunn-Graham combo.

Marion Barber is a top five runningback in the league.

Jason Witten has left the game.

Didn't realize you were watching the game. So, my apology for the above comment.

I think you need to settle down on your cave talk though. This adds nothing to the discussion other than trying to rip into someone.

As for Holmes, that wasn't my "thread". Check again. I made a post about Holmes being a "letdown" and that is my opinion.

Dude, you need to loosen up. I guess your opinion carries more weight that anyone elses so its ok for you to say something in the Holmes thread but I cant say something in the cowboys game thread when I am watching the game...

I will try to avoid anymore contact with you as it seems you maybe too young to understand...(or just too drunk)

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Really? Where do you think he rates?

Here is my list for RB's

Portis
Peterson
Gore
Jacobs
Jackson
Barber

He is good but there are a couple above him.

Here is my list for RB's

Portis
Peterson
Gore
Jacobs
Jackson
Barber

He is good but there are a couple above him.

Being #6, on your list, means "He is a good RB but he is no where near top in the league like most dallas fans think." Really now? That isn't "near top"?

Here is my list for RB's

Portis
Peterson
Gore
Jacobs
Jackson
Barber

He is good but there are a couple above him.

I think the top two are solid while the last four change week to week.

Being #6, on your list, means "He is a good RB but he is no where near top in the league like most dallas fans think." Really now? That isn't "near top"?

Yes.:party0053:

Being #6, on your list, means "He is a good RB but he is no where near top in the league like most dallas fans think." Really now? That isn't "near top"?

Not top of this list. Top in the league is what I meant by that. For some reason they think he is a god but he is a product of a system. He gets his yards when Romo is QB. Defenses can't stop that team when they have a real QB. Barber gets his yards because of this. Not his fault but put him on a team like san fran and he will be no where near as productive as a RB like Gore.

Lucky play. Brooks is two good to let that happen again (hopefully we don't see a pass like that at the end of the game if it is a close one). Wow almost another one-that's scary.

Not top of this list. Top in the league is what I meant by that. For some reason they think he is a god but he is a product of a system. He gets his yards when Romo is QB. Defenses can't stop that team when they have a real QB. Barber gets his yards because of this. Not his fault but put him on a team like san fran and he will be no where near as productive as a RB like Gore.

I have never read or seen anything like that before. He's a bruishing back who can create yards on his own. He can also contribute in the passing game.

I have never read or seen anything like that before. He's a bruishing back who can create yards on his own. He can also contribute in the passing game.

Yeah but on any other team he is a mediocre RB. Not only would i take those five guys before him I would take these Rookies before him also:

Slaton
Forte
Chris Johnson

lukehoyt-if Barber was a product of the system, then how come Julius Jones sucked so much the past two years?

Marion Barber is the #1 fantasy running back in my league. The league gives equal stats to everyone.

Yeah but on any other team he is a mediocre RB. Not only would i take those five guys before him I would take these Rookies before him also:

Slaton
Forte
Chris Johnson

They are having good rookie seasons but I'd go w/ a proven vet. who gets it done and is a clutch player.

lukehoyt-if Barber was a product of the system, then how come Julius Jones sucked so much the past two years?

Marion Barber is the #1 fantasy running back in my league. The league gives equal stats to everyone.

Good point, I forgot about him.LOL

lukehoyt-if Barber was a product of the system, then how come Julius Jones sucked so much the past two years?

Marion Barber is the #1 fantasy running back in my league. The league gives equal stats to everyone.

Well first off Jones is a trash overrated Dallas RB. His stats were very screwy due to him splitting carries with Barber. And him being #1 for fantasy is cool. I never knew fantasy was a way to rank players. I would take Portis over Barber every time.

Is Daryl Johnston interested in coaching the Cowboys? He's doing a great job breaking down there mistakes and making suggestions.

Well first off Jones is a trash overrated Dallas RB. His stats were very screwy due to him splitting carries with Barber. And him being #1 for fantasy is cool. I never knew fantasy was a way to rank players. I would take Portis over Barber every time.

I'd consider that too. Portis is having a good year and is a proven player.

Well first off Jones is a trash overrated Dallas RB. His stats were very screwy due to him splitting carries with Barber. And him being #1 for fantasy is cool. I never knew fantasy was a way to rank players. I would take Portis over Barber every time.

Fantasy is a great indication of how a player is performing on the field. It is the only means to rank a player? No. :winking0071:

Thank-you slippery field. You are the 12th man today.

Cowboys D holds again!

Wade Phillips is calling the D plays I believe. If so, he's doing a great job so far.

The Cowboys defense is the only thing that looks good for them today - the Bucs look like the team with multiple allstar wideouts and a superb QB....

That was a great hit!

Johnson is not making the best throws today.

That's why the Cowboys got Williams! Nice play.

woohoo! Roy Williams with his first TD as a Cowboy.

Cowboys up 10-6 at the half.

That's the best they could do on 2nd. and fifteen and a worthless dump pass on 3rd. down? I really wonder on the play selection and the execution sometimes.

Nice sack by James!

Better playcalling but more important the Defense is playing with passion.

Can Brad Johnson complete a pass? He is really off?

Brad Johnson is still terrible. He continues to misfire on throws.

Graham is a strong runner.

And the bad D returns on third down to allow a big gain but does limit the Bucs to a FG.

Johnson is not getting it done at all. He doesn't have a turnover but he's not really contributing either.

And he under throws Owens which leads to the break-up.

Garcia had way too much time on third down. This drive by the Cowboys needs to at least move the ball so the Bucs aren't starting in Cowboys territory-and they don't. Any other Cowboys' fans getting annoyed by the lack of offensive production?

Solid pass rush on third down.

A draw? Again the play selection is questionable. Why not a QB sneak for 2 inches?

Stop trying to run Barber outside and do something about Johnson this is painful to watch.

Cowboys can't allow plays of ten plus yards on this drive. Ware needs to show up here. Tampa's tackles have really shut him down today.

Bucs get it done on 4th down.

Wow that was close. The defense really did much better today while the offense was poor but at least no turnovers.

Good game Dallas. I love to bash you guys because you guys are so passionate about your team. I will give credit where it is due. Offense is still questionable under Johnson's command and Barber is struggling with him under center. But the defense finally made a stand and won a game for them. Good game.

The secondary did much better today especially since it was full of rookies.

The Bucs are a good team and their O-Line is very talented.

Whew. Got at least one win without Romo. Still not happy with the way our offense played. But, I think this was the best game the D has played all season. Wade looked like he was calling the shots so big props to him.

I am sooooo upset right now. I cannot believe the Bucs couldn't get the ball in the end zone. And I know I will definately be in the minority here, but those calls against the Bucs at the end of the 2nd half were VERY questionable in my opinion. The illegal touch on Talib was rediculous as there is always contact downfield on passes and the ball was nowhere near catchable. The personal foul on June was crap to, its football, let the players play.

I will give credit where credit is due and say the Dallas defense played very well and the Bucs offense was flat. Congrats on the win Dallas.

Jason

I am sooooo upset right now. I cannot believe the Bucs couldn't get the ball in the end zone. And I know I will definately be in the minority here, but those calls against the Bucs at the end of the 2nd half were VERY questionable in my opinion. The illegal touch on Talib was rediculous as there is always contact downfield on passes and the ball was nowhere near catchable. The personal foul on June was crap to, its football, let the players play.

I will give credit where credit is due and say the Dallas defense played very well and the Bucs defense was flat. Congrats on the win Dallas.

Jason

I thought they played well allowing two FG and one TD w/ the only pts. in the second half being a FG.

My bad, I meant to say offense. The Bucs D played well except a few dumb calls that ultimately cost them the game.

Jason

My bad, I meant to say offense. The Bucs D played well except a few dumb calls that ultimately cost them the game.

Jason

True, Garcia over threw some guys but that O-Line is dominant. The Cowboys couldn't get a consistent pass rush against them.

congrats cowboys!!!! NICE WIN!!

True, Garcia over threw some guys but that O-Line is dominant. The Cowboys couldn't get a consistent pass rush against them.

The O-Line played very well in the first half but down the stretch, Dallas was only rushing 4 and putting major pressure on Garcia causing bad throws. I am not really sure what happened to the fire the Bucs had in the first half but I can tell you that the fumbled kickoff return didn't help at all.

Jason

Cowboys suck.

LOL, Steelers suck. :party0048:

My quick rundown of the game:

Good game.
Brad Johnson sucks.
Roy had a couple of nice snags.
Defense showed up.
Brad Johnson still sucks.
MBIII could not get going today, but displayed a couple of hard runs.
Witten is out, and that could be a huge problem.
Brad Johnson is so bad. He expects everybody to be 9 feet tall with a 6 foot vertical.
Wade Phillips needs to continue his defensive playcalling. Couldn't get a ton of pressure for most part, but it was enough.
Bummed that DWare didn't get his 10th consecutive game with a sack. Was close on the last play of the game for the Buccs, but Garcia got it off.

5-3 moving into a game with the Giants I believe. Don't see how we will get away with this. Not too good to go into a bye with a loss, but at least Romo should be back against the Skins. After the 'Skins games it should be a couple of easy wins against the 9'ers, and Seahawks but then we have to end the season with games against Steelers, Giants, Ravens and Eagles. I will be extremely content getting away with this season as just a wild card team. Maybe we can finally strike some damage in the playoffs because we aren't the team who is expected to win.

My quick rundown of the game:

Good game.
Brad Johnson sucks.
Roy had a couple of nice snags.
Defense showed up.
Brad Johnson still sucks.
MBIII could not get going today, but displayed a couple of hard runs.
Witten is out, and that could be a huge problem.
Brad Johnson is so bad. He expects everybody to be 9 feet tall with a 6 foot vertical.
Wade Phillips needs to continue his defensive playcalling. Couldn't get a ton of pressure for most part, but it was enough.
Bummed that DWare didn't get his 10th consecutive game with a sack. Was close on the last play of the game for the Buccs, but Garcia got it off.

5-3 moving into a game with the Giants I believe. Don't see how we will get away with this. Not too good to go into a bye with a loss, but at least Romo should be back against the Skins. After the 'Skins games it should be a couple of easy wins against the 9'ers, and Seahawks but then we have to end the season with games against Steelers, Giants, Ravens and Eagles. I will be extremely content getting away with this season as just a wild card team. Maybe we can finally strike some damage in the playoffs because we aren't the team who is expected to win.

I totally agree. My major concern is Witten right now, hopefully he will be back very soon.

I mean, it's injury after injury after injury. Cowboys aren't used to this, so this is a big time especially with all the teams around us winning. I will be extremely pleased with a Wild Card spot at this rate. We lost our MVP in Romo for 3 games, Felix is out 2-4 weeks, Pro-Bowl punter McBriar is out for the year. Now if it's Witten, this season is going downhill faster and faster. After the bye week, to make the playoffs, we better win almost every game with Romo or else I just don't see how we will make it.

Don't count the Cowboys completely out of the Giants game already...the way the Defense played today gives hope.

Here is my list for RB's

Portis
Peterson
Gore
Jacobs
Jackson
Barber

He is good but there are a couple above him.

Honestly, I do think that Barber is better than Jacobs for sure, and maybe even Gore. Nor do I believe that Barber is a systematic back. He gained every single one of those 71 yards today because he is running behind the most underperforming Oline I've seen. They couldn't open up a hole for him for their life. Jacobs is good, and a **** big runner, but he just seems way too slow and sometimes incapable of getting the short yardage that is needed. I'd replace Jacobs with Westy on that list. Not too mention, Jacobs is running behind the best OL in the game. I love Barber, and I do think he is easily one of the top 10 in the NFL, and maybe even a top 5 back at this time. He seems to be putting up solid stats with such a dismal offense that makes the defense aim toward stopping the run which is the only bright spot of this offense. Barber makes plays when they matter, and he is one of the toughest runners in the NFL.

Clinton Portis
Adrian Peterson
Brian Westbrook
Steven Jackson
Marion Barber

What I really don't understand is how people put Adrian Peterson that high on the list. He has played in the NFL one season. He is inconsistant and he has showed that this year. It really aggravates me when you put a player that young on a list of top players in the league. There is no way in my opinion that AP is better than Brian Westbrook or LaDainain Tomlinson (who somehow isn't on your list??).

Jason

What I really don't understand is how people put Adrian Peterson that high on the list. He has played in the NFL one season. He is inconsistant and he has showed that this year. It really aggravates me when you put a player that young on a list of top players in the league. There is no way in my opinion that AP is better than Brian Westbrook or LaDainain Tomlinson (who somehow isn't on your list??).

Jason


Really? Inconsistent?

Week 1: 103 Rushing-1 TD
Week 2: 160 Rushing
Week 3: 77 Rushing (vs. Carolina, great run D)
Week 4: 80 Rushing- 2 TD (vs. Titans D, best in the league)
Week 5: 32 Rushing
Week 6: 111 Rushing
Week 7: 121 Rushing- 2 TD (vs. Bears D)

So 1 bad game so far and hes inconsistent lol...