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RenegadeLonghorn
01-06-2009, 11:42 PM
SCF Basketball Super Collector HOF Information Thread



Basketball Super Collector forum will honor those with the most prestigious collections of a player, team, or sets. You will be recognized in the HOF and receive your very own unique badge under your username. You can be honored as a Super Collector of multiple players or multiple teams. However, you will receive only one badge. There may be future perks and contests for HOFers! The best collections of the card hobby are here!


Current List of Super Collectors (http://www.sportscardforum.com/showthread.php?t=667506)


How do I apply?
You can apply to become a player, team, or set super collector. Or all three! First, you must meet one of the requirements below (player, team, set). How do I find out? Well, for player collectors you can use the search feature on Beckett.com to find out how many cards of a player exist.

If you meet the requirements then click here (http://www.sportscardforum.com/showthread.php?p=4691089#post4691089) to submit your application. The review process (see below) will begin.

Player information is pulled from the free Beckett.com search. Please take a several minutes to research your collection before applying.



Review Process
After you apply for Super Collector status, you will be contacted by JammingJames23, who will contact you at her earliest convenience. Do not PM your application.

First, you should have a detailed list of all of your cards. Send this list, preferably by text or microsoft works spreadsheet. Serial numbers on your numbered cards are preferred. These numbers will be kept private. If you do not have a list of cards, then please work on it or scans of every card you own.

You should also have a photobucket that displays your collection. Your entire collection does not need to be scanned, but staff may request for certain cards to be scanned when they update your status. Failure to provide scans could result in denial of your application.

Some breakdown of your collection is helpful. If you are applying for option #1 of a player, then the following information is relevant:

Example:
Auto -
GU -
Rookie cards (true) -
Rookie parallels -
1/1 -
Logoman/tagmen/other high end -


After staff has gathered all of the necessary information, they will review your application and vote on its induction. Review process will usually last 7 days but may go longer.

If you are denied, don't fret. Improve your collection and you can re-apply 30 days after the denial PM.



HOF Status
The status of each Super Collector will be checked roughly every four months. Rookie year super collectors will usually be checked every two months. You may lose your Super Collector rank if you fail to update staff or fall out of a requirement or sell your collection.



Important Guidelines
-DO YOUR RESEARCH! Utilize the free search on Beckett.com before applying.
-A photo album displaying the collection you are applying for or inducted for in the HOF. You should have a section dedicated to your player, team, or set.
-A breakdown of your cards; how many autographs, memorabilia, rookies, etc? Example: Auto-22, Gu-58, Rookies-33. Be prepared to give me a full breakdown when I request it.
-Keep in mind that your collection list should be listed in this format: Year - Card - Card # - Serial Number.
-If you do not have a list of all of your cards then have scans in a photo album.

These guidelines will help speed up the review process and help staff analyze your collection.

If you are actively engaging in selling or trading your collection then do not bother to apply. If you are already a HOFer and are getting rid of your collection then you will be removed from the HOF.



Player Super Collector
Option #1: If you only collect a mix of rookies, game used, autographs, AND other high end cards of a player, you can apply for this option. This option focuses on quality and quantity. Minimum qualification is that you must have a minimum of 10% of their autographs made and a minimum of 15% of their game used. Obviously, the smaller the number produced, the larger percentage you will likely need. You must also have a minimum of 60% of their true rookie cards. This number does not include parallels, but staff will evaluate the number of rookie parallels you have. 1/1's, Lettermans, Tagmen/Logoman are also accepted. There are no requirement for these high end cards but they greatly improve the quality of your collection.

For example, Tim Duncan has 1211 memorabilia cards (game used) and 99 autographs. To qualify for this option, you would need a minimum of 180 memorabilia and 10 autographs. Staff then evaluates the other cards you have and the quality of your collection.


Option #2: For those who collect everything of a player. This includes base, inserts, parallels, numbered, memorabilia, autographs, and 1/1. You must also own at least 5% of the players autographs and 10% of the players memorabilia cards.

99 cards or less - 90% (but this will not guarantee you are in. Staff will review the collection based on quantity and quality.)
100-149 - 85%
150-199 - 80%
200-299 - 75%
300-399 - 70%
400-499 - 65%
500-699 - 60%
700-799 - 55%
800-899 - 50%
900-999 - 45%
1000-1499 - 40%
1500-1999 - 35%
2000-2499 - 30%
2500+ - 25%

For example, T.J. Ford has 1116 listed cards. You would need 40% of those cards to qualify as a Super Collector of T.J. Ford. If you collect a player who has 100 cards officially made, you must own 80% of them.



Team Super Collector
-NBA Team Collector: Must be in NBA team uniform or college uniform if it is the players rookie year with that team. All-Star uniform and Team USA uniform cards are accepted if the player was with the NBA team at the time the card was made.
-NCAA Alumni Collector: Cards can be in any uniform. Player only has to be an alumni of the NCAA team you collect.

Option #1: For those who collect all types of cards.
-Total of 2500 different cards. Includes base, inserts, numbered parallels/inserts, rookies, game used, and autographs.
-Need at least 125 autograph & memorabilia cards.
-Must have at least 10 players in your collection. If you have more than 10 players, then the below requirement of 20 cards per player does not apply to player #11 and so forth.
-Minimum of 20 different cards per player.


Option #2: For those who only collect autographs and memorabilia cards.
-Total of 250 different memorabilia (game used) and autographs. Lettermans and Logoman/Tagmen also count.
-Collection valued at $5000 or more.
-Must have at least 8 players in your collection. If you have more than 8 players, then the below requirement of 10 cards per player does not apply to player #9 and so forth.
-Minimum of 10 different cards per player.



Set Super Collector
No base only sets. We do not have any requirements, but are looking for multiple completed mid end to high end sets. We will look at single sets valued in the thousands.


In addition HOF recognition you get a Super Mascot Badge!
http://www.sportscardforum.com/photoplog/images/7129/medium/1_hofbadge.png



Please do not be discouraged if you do not meet a requirement or are denied. There are many great collections out there and you should be proud of yours. We are not looking down on anyone's collection. This prestigious status exists to recognize the best of the best in the basketball card hobby. Good luck to everyone!

RenegadeLonghorn
01-07-2009, 01:39 AM
We also welcome your feedback. :thumb:

whalechaser
01-07-2009, 02:58 AM
I like your requirements!! Looks like I still have a lot of work to do though before I can be a super collector of the Bulls!!! I only have maybe 30 or so Auto's/GU's and about 600 Bulls cards total. Will take me several years at this pace. Better step up my game!

whalechaser
01-07-2009, 02:12 PM
Just realized something:

-Cards must only be in NBA team uniform of the team you are applying for. No college uniform; no All-Star uniform; no Team USA uniform.

So my Upper Deck Derrick Rose RC wouldn't count? because he is in a Kansas uniform?? This also makes my Tyrus RC not count.

What about bulls players in suits like on draft day? Or Maybe card of Phil Jackson? There were coach cards released of him in the early 90's as the Bulls coach. And what about cards of the Mascot? (Topps released some)

I think those should count =P But I do agree with the all-star/team usa jersey's and that in most other circumstances the players should be in the uniform though!

RenegadeLonghorn
01-07-2009, 07:42 PM
I like your requirements!! Looks like I still have a lot of work to do though before I can be a super collector of the Bulls!!! I only have maybe 30 or so Auto's/GU's and about 600 Bulls cards total. Will take me several years at this pace. Better step up my game!

Thanks! :party0048:

So my Upper Deck Derrick Rose RC wouldn't count? because he is in a Kansas uniform?? This also makes my Tyrus RC not count.

What about bulls players in suits like on draft day? Or Maybe card of Phil Jackson? There were coach cards released of him in the early 90's as the Bulls coach. And what about cards of the Mascot? (Topps released some)

I think those should count =P But I do agree with the all-star/team usa jersey's and that in most other circumstances the players should be in the uniform though!

Yes, the Rose and Thomas wouldn't count. A lot of players get drafted by one team but move on to other teams. We can't pick and choose who to allow. Most of the rookie cards produced now are pictured in team uniform and so this will not play a big factor in collections.

If they are wearing a hat or holding a jersey of a Bulls uniform on draft day, thats allowed. Coaches and Mascots are also allowed as long as the team is identifiable.

RenegadeLonghorn
01-07-2009, 09:12 PM
New section added.

Important Guidelines
-A photobucket displaying a fair portion of your collection is a must. You must have a section dedicated to your player, team, or set.
-We need a breakdown of your cards; how many autographs, game used, and rookies do you have? Example: Auto-22, Gu-58, Rookies-33.
-Keep in mind that your collection must be listed in this format: Year - Card - Card # - Serial Number - GU Color/Auto Color. This is a must in your checklist.

These guidelines will help speed up the review process and help us analyze your collection.

the_future
01-08-2009, 03:06 AM
Looks like the basketball team did a great job on this. Way to go b-ball team! :thumb:

Italy61587
01-08-2009, 03:41 PM
just some feedback:
for the team collecting i though 300 autos and game used is a bit high.....i think quality of the cards you have should be considered......being a collector that mostly focuses on autos and patches...it's a lot harder to get that many autos and patches with a few jsys cards rather than 200 game used or so and whatever else

like i said...just some feedback :)

mtalley82
01-08-2009, 05:12 PM
Ooooohhhh, I am going to have to go for NCAA supercollector!!!

Juvenile404
01-08-2009, 05:27 PM
im goin for the gators collection! wooo! may take a while though.

RenegadeLonghorn
01-08-2009, 06:50 PM
just some feedback:
for the team collecting i though 300 autos and game used is a bit high.....i think quality of the cards you have should be considered......being a collector that mostly focuses on autos and patches...it's a lot harder to get that many autos and patches with a few jsys cards rather than 200 game used or so and whatever else

like i said...just some feedback :)

We'll be evaluating each option and making tweaks here and there. We can judge quality, but how many quality cards justifies a super collection in regards to a team collection?

RenegadeLonghorn
01-08-2009, 06:52 PM
Also want to add that the Super Collector HOF program is a finished product, but we will be necessary changes based on member feedback and collection observations.

Italy61587
01-08-2009, 08:38 PM
We'll be evaluating each option and making tweaks here and there. We can judge quality, but how many quality cards justifies a super collection in regards to a team collection?

totally understand....i just thought i'd bring up that point though :)

tikitomoka
01-08-2009, 08:41 PM
what about me, since i collect two players at once? that probably makes no difference does it?

jeebus86
01-08-2009, 09:47 PM
I have a question on option #2 for Team Collection, do all the 10 cards of each individual player have to be a game-used and auto, or can they be rare inserts too?

The reason why I ask is because let's say I want to apply for Lakers Team Super Collector and Eddie Jones is one of my 12 players that I want to include. Problem is, there are only 7 different autos of him in his Laker uniform, and no gu cards in his laker uniform. It would be impossible to meet that quota, unless I'm able to replace it with other high-end inserts, like 97-98 E-X2001 Jambalya, for example. LMK, Thanks!

sportsfreak007
01-08-2009, 11:21 PM
I really like this idea, just one concern. Is it possible to be denied HOF status and then after getting more cards re-apply and be approved?

RenegadeLonghorn
01-08-2009, 11:37 PM
what about me, since i collect two players at once? that probably makes no difference does it?

I don't follow. What are you asking exactly?

sportsfreak007
01-08-2009, 11:39 PM
I think he means will you evaluate each player individually or as a pair?

RenegadeLonghorn
01-08-2009, 11:41 PM
I have a question on option #2 for Team Collection, do all the 10 cards of each individual player have to be a game-used and auto, or can they be rare inserts too?

The reason why I ask is because let's say I want to apply for Lakers Team Super Collector and Eddie Jones is one of my 12 players that I want to include. Problem is, there are only 7 different autos of him in his Laker uniform, and no gu cards in his laker uniform. It would be impossible to meet that quota, unless I'm able to replace it with other high-end inserts, like 97-98 E-X2001 Jambalya, for example. LMK, Thanks!

We created different options for the different types of team collectors. An insert couldn't be substituted for a GU/Auto in option #2. However, your inserts, gu, auto and other cards can be applied to option #1. Option #1 includes any type of card.

How many Eddie Jones auto/gu do you have?

RenegadeLonghorn
01-08-2009, 11:42 PM
I really like this idea, just one concern. Is it possible to be denied HOF status and then after getting more cards re-apply and be approved?

You can re-apply 30 days after being denied.

RenegadeLonghorn
01-08-2009, 11:43 PM
I think he means will you evaluate each player individually or as a pair?


Gotcha.

tikitomoka-if that was what you were referring to, then they are evaluated individually.

sportsfreak007
01-09-2009, 12:27 AM
You can re-apply 30 days after being denied.

thanks for the clarification!

mtalley82
01-09-2009, 05:25 PM
im goin for the gators collection! wooo! may take a while though.

Yeah, but that's what makes it fun.

RenegadeLonghorn
01-09-2009, 06:21 PM
Changes made.

Player Super Collector
Option #1: If you only collect rookies/game used/autographs/other high end cards of a player, you can apply for this option. This option focuses on quality and quantity. Minimum qualification is that you must have a minimum of 10% of their autographs made and a minimum of 15% of their game used. Obviously, the smaller the number produced, the larger percentage you will need. You must also have a minimum of 60% of their true rookie cards. This number does not include parallels, but we will evaluate the number of rookie parallels you have. 1/1's, Lettermans, Tagmen/Logoman are also accepted. There are no requirement for these but they great improve the quality of your collection.

For example, Tim Duncan has 1211 memorabilia cards (game used) and 99 autographs. To qualify for this option, you would need a minimum of 180 memorabilia and 10 autographs. We then evaluate the other cards you have and the quality of your collection.

Option #2: For those who collect everything of a player. This includes base, inserts, parallels, numbered, memorabilia, autographs, and 1/1.
100-199 - 80%
200-399 - 70%
400-599 - 65%
600-799 - 60%
800-899 - 55%
900-999 - 50%
1000-1499 - 40%
1500-1999 - 30%
2000+ - 25%

For example, T.J. Ford has 1116 listed cards. You would need 40% of those cards to qualify as a Super Collector of T.J. Ford. If you collect a player who has 100 cards officially made, you must own 80% of them.

We will evaluate collections of players who have less than 100 cards produced on a case by case basis.

GriffeyJr.FAN3
01-18-2009, 07:28 PM
so where are the guys who already got into the hall of fames badges? i wanna see what these look like

molly1984
01-18-2009, 08:09 PM
the badge is in the first post of this thread, it's black. let me know if you don't see it.

GriffeyJr.FAN3
01-18-2009, 09:01 PM
oh i see it, when do they get to put it to their name? i dont see anyone with it yet. and will it say basketball or the player they got it for, that would be cool.

JammingJames23
01-18-2009, 09:31 PM
BravesFan4Life has his up - you can see it on one of his posts

Dieken
01-24-2009, 02:35 PM
so if get it right i need to have 55% of Foye his cards??
he has now 757 and i have 215 diff at this moment.....
so i can search for some more before i try to be a super collector.....lol :)

molly1984
01-24-2009, 02:42 PM
so if get it right i need to have 55% of Foye his cards??
he has now 757 and i have 215 diff at this moment.....
so i can search for some more before i try to be a super collector.....lol :)

Yep, that's correct. So you'd need 416 cards. Goodluck with your search :)

oh i see it, when do they get to put it to their name? i dont see anyone with it yet. and will it say basketball or the player they got it for, that would be cool.

I think for now it will be the same badge for all. Especially since some members could be a super collector of more than one player or team etc. There is a thread in this forum with the master list of who is a supercollector and what they collect.

Dieken
01-25-2009, 06:34 AM
allright thanks.
it's hard now to find some cards of him.
a lot of 1/1's left in the list and auto/patch and low numbered cards......
it's still a hobby .........................
hope upperdeck brings some out this season because topps didn't

leohoopfan
01-25-2009, 12:49 PM
I have a question regarding your Super Collector Status. I have a collection of cards featuring Duke players in their college uniforms. Over the years, I have identified a total of 1,223 different cards that feature Duke players in their college uniforms. I have at least one copy of 1,085 of them (89%). There are a total of 43 different players that have had Duke card issued. The collection includes everything from base, parallel, insert, auto, jersey, and also includes several 1/1 (e.g., Chris Carrawell 2000 Sage Hit Prospector Solitaire). The only criteria for this collection is that the player must be shown in their Duke uniform (no draft day suit cards, no high school, no NBA jersey, etc.). It wasn't clear to me that this type of collection fit into any of your categories, so I though I'd ask if this type of collection fit into any of your categories? Regards, Leo

RenegadeLonghorn
01-25-2009, 08:16 PM
I have a question regarding your Super Collector Status. I have a collection of cards featuring Duke players in their college uniforms. Over the years, I have identified a total of 1,223 different cards that feature Duke players in their college uniforms. I have at least one copy of 1,085 of them (89%). There are a total of 43 different players that have had Duke card issued. The collection includes everything from base, parallel, insert, auto, jersey, and also includes several 1/1 (e.g., Chris Carrawell 2000 Sage Hit Prospector Solitaire). The only criteria for this collection is that the player must be shown in their Duke uniform (no draft day suit cards, no high school, no NBA jersey, etc.). It wasn't clear to me that this type of collection fit into any of your categories, so I though I'd ask if this type of collection fit into any of your categories? Regards, Leo

For the NCAA Team Super Collector, the cards can be in any uniform. They just have to be Duke alumni. lmk if that doesn't answer your question.

leohoopfan
01-26-2009, 10:41 PM
Not really sure if that answers the question. What I'm saying is that ALL of the cards in this collection feature the players shown in their Duke University uniforms. Not their NBA jerseys. There are 43 players so far, several dozen manufacturers so far, over 1200cards so far, but they are all in their Duke University jersey. I guess it's a team collection, but a college team not an NBA team.

molly1984
01-27-2009, 01:16 PM
leohoopfan-- there is not a requirement for them to be in a college uniform, but that's acceptable that all of yours happen to be duke uniform cards. as long as you meet the requirements for whichever type of super collector you are for Duke you could apply (there are 3 options for NCAA collector, regardless of uniform)

RenegadeLonghorn
01-27-2009, 03:23 PM
Important announcement for team collectors. We will be adjusting the HOF requirements in February. Stay tuned.

NickRadz23
02-03-2009, 09:03 PM
Ok, the guy im going after is Greg Kelser since he is a former MSU Champion and Pistons announcer. But he only has 14 cards. and 90% are college/base cards. so what percentage would i need? help appreciated. thanx

NickRadz23
02-03-2009, 11:05 PM
Actually Greg Kelser only has 12 different cards i believe, and i have 4. so what percentage do i need? lmk. thanx

whalechaser
02-04-2009, 03:39 AM
Actually Greg Kelser only has 12 different cards i believe, and i have 4. so what percentage do i need? lmk. thanx

Man, 12 cards haha... would that even be considered a super collection even if you own all the cards? If that's the case, everyone can just go find a player that had one card produced ever and say they own 100% of his cards.

I think a super collection needs to have a certain wow factor to it whether that wow is the sheer quantity or amazing quality of the collection.

------
a totally unrelated question... is there like a "theme collection" super collector available?

Like let's say there's a super collector of white NBA players with mustaches, can they be inducted into the HOF if they have a fantastic collection of such a theme?

NickRadz23
02-04-2009, 07:12 AM
i disagree. although he has less cards his cards are nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find since he only has 12-13 different cards. so i do think it should be considered a super collector. and if the player only has 1 card im sure its going to be basically impossible to find it. thanx and i hope they do take my Greg Kelser collection as a serious super collection. thanx

trevorp121
02-04-2009, 02:16 PM
Actually Greg Kelser only has 12 different cards i believe, and i have 4. so what percentage do i need? lmk. thanx


ok, well if you read the criteria. I bolded with the info, and it says that if a player has 99 cards or less there is no guarantee that you would be in, but it would be reviewed and it will be determined on a case by case basis.

However, you would need at least 90% precent of his cards to even be considered.

Option #2: For those who collect everything of a player. This includes base, inserts, parallels, numbered, memorabilia, autographs, and 1/1.
99 cards or less - 90% (but this will not guarantee you are in. We will review the collection.)
100-149 - 85%
150-199 - 80%
200-299 - 75%
300-399 - 70%
400-499 - 65%
500-699 - 60%
700-799 - 55%
800-899 - 50%
900-999 - 45%
1000-1499 - 40%
1500-1999 - 35%
2000-2499 - 30%
2500+ - 25%

For example, T.J. Ford has 1116 listed cards. You would need 40% of those cards to qualify as a Super Collector of T.J. Ford. If you collect a player who has 100 cards officially made, you must own 80% of them.

trevorp121
02-04-2009, 02:18 PM
a totally unrelated question... is there like a "theme collection" super collector available?

Like let's say there's a super collector of white NBA players with mustaches, can they be inducted into the HOF if they have a fantastic collection of such a theme?


That had never been brought up before but that would be a pretty sweet collection though. :whistle:

NickRadz23
02-04-2009, 02:55 PM
ahh ok. well how do you guys review if a player with 99 cards or less should be in there? i know people are thinking im collecting Special K because he only has 14 or 12 cards, but thats not the reason. im collecting him because he played for MSU which is my home college and played for the pistons which is my home nba team. plus he's an announcer for the pistons now so i just thought it would be cool to collect him. thanx

RenegadeLonghorn
02-04-2009, 06:12 PM
Actually Greg Kelser only has 12 different cards i believe, and i have 4. so what percentage do i need? lmk. thanx

The player has too few cards and the total value doesn't exceed even $100 in card value.

NickRadz23
02-04-2009, 06:14 PM
wow that sux. oh well! thanx though

RenegadeLonghorn
02-04-2009, 06:15 PM
a totally unrelated question... is there like a "theme collection" super collector available?

Like let's say there's a super collector of white NBA players with mustaches, can they be inducted into the HOF if they have a fantastic collection of such a theme?

Nice idea, but there is no way to evaluate this. You can always show these cards off in Show and Tell.

jsox
02-10-2009, 06:42 PM
i like the rules! at any time could i drop a pm to someone from SCF for specific questions? looking for Glen Davis, but, obviously not enough yet, but i'm trying!

RenegadeLonghorn
02-10-2009, 09:32 PM
i like the rules! at any time could i drop a pm to someone from SCF for specific questions? looking for Glen Davis, but, obviously not enough yet, but i'm trying!

Did you have questions pertaining to the Super Collector program? Feel free to PM me.

NickRadz23
02-15-2009, 12:41 PM
So Bill Russell has 850 cards, so i would need 425 to be considered a super collector? holy BEEP BEEP BEEP!!! lol. thanx

BravesFan4Life
02-15-2009, 05:42 PM
thats assuming that it is a well rounded, etc...just because you reach a number doesnt mean your a super collector(well it does but not necessarily based on the guidelines of the program)

theael
02-24-2009, 12:12 AM
Sorry, but the guidelines in some parts are just SOO unfair! Amare has nearly 2500 cards, how am I s'posed to get THAT much of his!?!?! CMON! 25%?!?!

RenegadeLonghorn
02-24-2009, 12:29 AM
Sorry, but the guidelines in some parts are just SOO unfair! Amare has nearly 2500 cards, how am I s'posed to get THAT much of his!?!?! CMON! 25%?!?!

You do realize that 25% of 2500 is 625, right?

What exactly do you propose? Instead of saying "unfair", maybe make a positive suggestion instead of criticizing something that we put hours into to honor SCF members?

oshmeehan
02-24-2009, 12:45 AM
Sorry, but the guidelines in some parts are just SOO unfair! Amare has nearly 2500 cards, how am I s'posed to get THAT much of his!?!?! CMON! 25%?!?!

I'm not just saying this cause I made the HOF, but come on, 25% is VERY generous in my opinion, so there shouldn't be any complaining about that. If it were my choice I would have made it at something over 50% for a player that has that many cards. I mean from my days of busting lots of wax I bet I probably had at least 10% of the overall print run of Shaq, and I didn't even try collecting his stuff!

swill300
02-24-2009, 06:01 PM
Sorry, but the guidelines in some parts are just SOO unfair! Amare has nearly 2500 cards, how am I s'posed to get THAT much of his!?!?! CMON! 25%?!?!

It isn't impossible if you look around enough to pick up Amare's cards. I collect Patrick Ewing, he's got 1300+ and I have over half of his cards so far. You just have to work at it, after all that's what defines a super collector in the first place.

BravesFan4Life
02-24-2009, 07:31 PM
Sorry, but the guidelines in some parts are just SOO unfair! Amare has nearly 2500 cards, how am I s'posed to get THAT much of his!?!?! CMON! 25%?!?!


I think 25% for a player that size is about right. Being supercollector is about putting the time and effort into your collection. It shouldnt be easy just because you do not like how many cards you have to get to reach a plateau. Just look at it as a challenge.

gladdyontherise
02-24-2009, 09:10 PM
Sorry, but the guidelines in some parts are just SOO unfair! Amare has nearly 2500 cards, how am I s'posed to get THAT much of his!?!?! CMON! 25%?!?!

think of it this way Austin, only 525 to go! lol

i think 25% for that amount is fair, i just got over 10% of Al Jefferson a few days ago, his stuff is very hard to find on the boards and ebay for some reason, but i'm trying!

I think the criteria is very fair, and i think the staff did a great job on this! the applications accepted have seemed to be limited, so its something to look forward to!

Johnson128
03-05-2009, 05:09 PM
Im going for the Magic collection Oh yeah go Orlando

sebredsox24
03-05-2009, 09:14 PM
Sorry, but the guidelines in some parts are just SOO unfair! Amare has nearly 2500 cards, how am I s'posed to get THAT much of his!?!?! CMON! 25%?!?!
2500? Garnett has 4695. Pierce has 3416. Alle has 2936. 2500 is not that much, AND being a supercollector is not supposed to be easy. Only the best of the best acheive that rank. My highest percentage is only 12.3 so I'm almost halfway there!

NickRadz23
03-10-2009, 10:24 PM
For option #1, does an autographed GU card count as just one, or both? also for like a logoman, would that count as a GU? or just as a 1/1? or both? thanx

RenegadeLonghorn
03-11-2009, 05:58 PM
For option #1, does an autographed GU card count as just one, or both? also for like a logoman, would that count as a GU? or just as a 1/1? or both? thanx

Autograph GU applies to both. They are usually listed in the autograph and memorabilia section of beckett. Logoman, 1/1, letterman and other high end add to the quality part of your collection.

RenegadeLonghorn
03-12-2009, 04:34 PM
Massive changes to the Super Collector program!

Additional requirement added to Option #2 player collectors.

We have made it easier for team collectors to apply by lowering the requirements.

The current changes will not affect those who are super collectors right now. We will evaluate your status once every four months.

I also want to emphasize that it is important you do research on your collection before submitting an application. You can use the free search on beckett.com to pull information about the number of cards a player has.

Feel free to ask questions or submit ideas. Criticizing or complaining instead of contributing won't get you far.

Thank you.

sebredsox24
03-12-2009, 06:30 PM
Massive changes to the Super Collector program!

Additional requirement added to Option #2 player collectors.

We have made it easier for team collectors to apply by lowering the requirements.

The current changes will not affect those who are super collectors right now. We will evaluate your status once every four months.

I also want to emphasize that it is important you do research on your collection before submitting an application. You can use the free search on beckett.com to pull information about the number of cards a player has.

Feel free to ask questions or submit ideas. Criticizing or complaining instead of contributing won't get you far.

Thank you.
:[ Thats gonna make it really hard for me to get supercollector. I barely have any autographs as I dont have a lot of funds, I was hoping I could get in on percentages. Why the change?

RenegadeLonghorn
03-12-2009, 06:54 PM
:[ Thats gonna make it really hard for me to get supercollector. I barely have any autographs as I dont have a lot of funds, I was hoping I could get in on percentages. Why the change?


We felt the changes were necessary to preserve the integrity of the HOF collections. Player collector percentages remained the same but a minimum requirement was added.

JammingJames23
03-12-2009, 10:07 PM
This gives me a new goal - while I make the new 10% memorabilia requirement for my Antoine Walker collection (16.3%, 67 of 411), I am two autographs short of the new 5% autograph requirement (6 of 157 autographs, or 3.8%; two more would give me 5.1%).

sebredsox24
03-12-2009, 10:27 PM
This gives me a new goal - while I make the new 10% memorabilia requirement for my Antoine Walker collection (16.3%, 67 of 411), I am two autographs short of the new 5% autograph requirement (6 of 157 autographs, or 3.8%; two more would give me 5.1%).
lucky you, lol. i have 10 Pierce autographs(11 counting incoming ) I need 32 autographs for super collector. I need 126 GU, but already have 82. It will take forever to get all those autos and I''ll probly need 40 by then.

gladdyontherise
03-12-2009, 10:40 PM
Well i'm not up to supercollector status right now..i only have 12.2% of Al Jeffersons stuff :(

i have 6.8% GU's 26/381 (i have some more incomming though!)
i have 2.8% Auto's 8/281, thats sad that i only have that little

NickRadz23
03-24-2009, 06:59 PM
since Rookies dont have any base and only have Rookies/GU/Autos does that mean that id have to apply for option #1 if i had enough to become a supercollector of Westbrook?

RenegadeLonghorn
03-25-2009, 01:18 AM
since Rookies dont have any base and only have Rookies/GU/Autos does that mean that id have to apply for option #1 if i had enough to become a supercollector of Westbrook?


Base isn't a requirement for Option #2. You just have to meet the percentage the player falls under.

Gypsie
03-26-2009, 04:54 PM
I have a question. I collected Eddie Jones back in the day and I only collected him in a lakers uni. I have close to 90% of what he had when he was in LA, but he got traded to Charlotte and Miami and I stopped collecting him. Would it count to only have him in a Lakers uni or would I have to have more then just that? Just curious then anything.

jsox
03-28-2009, 11:43 AM
hi!
was reading over the application steps.
saw that it said "BV for mid-end, - high-end cards are highly recommended"
should the prices (which you can find), be shown in your checklist sent to you during the application process?
plmk!
thanks jsox

RenegadeLonghorn
03-28-2009, 08:47 PM
I have a question. I collected Eddie Jones back in the day and I only collected him in a lakers uni. I have close to 90% of what he had when he was in LA, but he got traded to Charlotte and Miami and I stopped collecting him. Would it count to only have him in a Lakers uni or would I have to have more then just that? Just curious then anything.


We take into account of all the cards produced of Eddie Jones. If you collected Lakers cards then your Eddie Jones could be counted towards a team collection.

RenegadeLonghorn
03-28-2009, 08:48 PM
hi!
was reading over the application steps.
saw that it said "BV for mid-end, - high-end cards are highly recommended"
should the prices (which you can find), be shown in your checklist sent to you during the application process?
plmk!
thanks jsox

jsox, don't worry about the BV part. I need to omit it from the requirement.

jsox
04-12-2009, 08:46 AM
had another question - when making your havelist - i'm trying for Player Opt. #1
should i have everything else too besides GU/Autos/RCs? or are those the only things necissary to show? and you can just see the other stuff in my bucket such as Parallels/Refractors?
plmk!
jsox

RenegadeLonghorn
04-12-2009, 01:31 PM
For option #1 we only take into account auto/gu/rookies and other high end such as 1/1's, logoman, letterman, etc so those are the only cards you need to show and have a list of.

JammingJames23
04-13-2009, 01:34 PM
This gives me a new goal - while I make the new 10% memorabilia requirement for my Antoine Walker collection (16.3%, 67 of 411), I am two autographs short of the new 5% autograph requirement (6 of 157 autographs, or 3.8%; two more would give me 5.1%).

Happy to say I got two more 'Toine autographs since this last post! :party0053:

Good luck to everyone else on completing or maintaining their super collection goals!

MatthewLee
04-21-2009, 12:21 AM
2 questions about Option #2.

Same card different serial, does this count as 1 or 2?

2000-01 Topps Chrome #151 765/1999
2000-01 Topps Chrome #151 1747/1999

Same card different swatch color, 1 or 3?

2008-09 Upper Deck MVP Game Night Souvenirs #GNKM (BLUE)
2008-09 Upper Deck MVP Game Night Souvenirs #GNKM (ORANGE)
2008-09 Upper Deck MVP Game Night Souvenirs #GNKM (WHITE)

Thanks!

RenegadeLonghorn
04-21-2009, 12:52 AM
2 questions about Option #2.

Same card different serial, does this count as 1 or 2?

2000-01 Topps Chrome #151 765/1999
2000-01 Topps Chrome #151 1747/1999

Same card different swatch color, 1 or 3?

2008-09 Upper Deck MVP Game Night Souvenirs #GNKM (BLUE)
2008-09 Upper Deck MVP Game Night Souvenirs #GNKM (ORANGE)
2008-09 Upper Deck MVP Game Night Souvenirs #GNKM (WHITE)

Thanks!

Counted as one on both.

MatthewLee
04-21-2009, 02:50 AM
Counted as one on both.
Whoa, seriously?
I understand the serial numbered, but the different color swatches don't count?
So you're only counting individual cards as defined by Beckett?

RenegadeLonghorn
04-21-2009, 04:16 AM
Whoa, seriously?
I understand the serial numbered, but the different color swatches don't count?
So you're only counting individual cards as defined by Beckett?

Different swatches doesn't matter. Its still the same card design and same card number. If we counted each swatch as a different card then it would be easy to inflate collection numbers towards the super collector.

MatthewLee
04-21-2009, 04:28 AM
Different swatches doesn't matter. Its still the same card design and same card number. If we counted each swatch as a different card then it would be easy to inflate collection numbers towards the super collector.
But isn't that what super-collecting is?
Trying to collect EVERY card, EVERY variation?

RenegadeLonghorn
04-21-2009, 04:36 AM
It will look nice in your collection but I don't see how you can justify counting the same card multiple times towards becoming a super collector. That would defeat the purpose of our requirements. Its listed once in Beckett and Tuff Stuff and that is what we go by.

MatthewLee
04-21-2009, 04:45 AM
It will look nice in your collection but I don't see how you can justify counting the same card multiple times towards becoming a super collector. That would defeat the purpose of our requirements. Its listed once in Beckett and Tuff Stuff and that is what we go by.
You're joking right Ash?
So if there are 4 different swatch color variations out there, as a Kenyon collector I should just get 1 and be done?
Nothing super about that, that's simple collecting. :confused0024:

The idea is to get every card right?
I'm taking it one step further by getting every color gu.
Should count for something.

ponyboy
04-21-2009, 11:40 AM
LOL...just my .02 . Actually both arguements ARE correct..here.
1) Ash..is it?? There are different variations of certain cards you forgot to mention..
Take 2001-02 SPx for instance.. EACH RC had like..2 versions. SOME had 3.
Even THIS year (08-09) there was a Home & Away version of the SPx's.

Although now...unless stated that it's a different CARD number or different variation of the same card number, you really can't count say, 2 #101 Spx Derrick Rose RC's as 2 different cards. Understandable they're 2 different serial numbered cards..they're still the SAME card. It's all about the percentage and where they have to draw the line on what to count and what NOT to count..LOL..

Anywho........just my .02 :)

JammingJames23
04-21-2009, 03:27 PM
I think the deal with different colored swatches is that they are difficult to track since a person can't always tell which game used insert sets have different colored swatches. It's a great collection goal, but how many game used insert sets have multiple colored swatches in them? Beckett doesn't provide statistics for them..

RenegadeLonghorn
04-21-2009, 03:44 PM
You're joking right Ash?
So if there are 4 different swatch color variations out there, as a Kenyon collector I should just get 1 and be done?
Nothing super about that, that's simple collecting. :confused0024:

The idea is to get every card right?
I'm taking it one step further by getting every color gu.
Should count for something.

No, I'm not joking. Your argument should be with Topps, UD, and Beckett for not counting those as different cards. How am I suppose to know how many variations there are for each memorabilia card? How are we suppose to judge collections if we included unlisted "variations" like that?

Example. John Doe has 50 memorabilia cards made. I have five of those cards, but I have five different "variations" which means 25 total cards. So is that worthy of super collector status to you?

RenegadeLonghorn
04-21-2009, 03:46 PM
LOL...just my .02 . Actually both arguements ARE correct..here.
1) Ash..is it?? There are different variations of certain cards you forgot to mention..
Take 2001-02 SPx for instance.. EACH RC had like..2 versions. SOME had 3.
Even THIS year (08-09) there was a Home & Away version of the SPx's.

Although now...unless stated that it's a different CARD number or different variation of the same card number, you really can't count say, 2 #101 Spx Derrick Rose RC's as 2 different cards. Understandable they're 2 different serial numbered cards..they're still the SAME card. It's all about the percentage and where they have to draw the line on what to count and what NOT to count..LOL..

Anywho........just my .02 :)


Actually, Beckett does list those Spx variations differently. If you look up Tony Parker it says 91A, 91B, and 91C. D.J. Augustin also has the road and home listed from 08/09.

RenegadeLonghorn
05-22-2009, 05:24 PM
Information thread updated. All of the requirements remain unchanged but I have made the review process and guidelines easier to understand.

ISO NJ 30 G
06-23-2009, 11:23 PM
Hey SCF Staff folks:

I have a couple of Player Super Collector questions:
-When applying, can I apply for both option 1 and option 2? And can I be granted one while rejected on the other?
-What about cards on their way from Upper Deck via redemption?
-What about versions of cards (for option 2 now) that Beckett does not list? For instance, Press Pass basketball black and white variations and blue reflectors (retail) variations, and Murad mini black-bordered variations?
-Pertaining, slightly, to the previous colored patch question: 08-09 Hot Prospects Rookie Materials manufactured letter autos. Beckett does not list each letter individually (like the N, the E, the T and the S if they spell out NETS). Would you consider them individual? It is trackable, the different patch variations, as each card on the bottom lets you know what the letters are spelling out.

I think that's everything I'm wondering at the moment. Thanks!

-Matt

MatthewLee
06-26-2009, 06:13 AM
If you are applying for option #1 of a player, then we need the following information:

Example:
Auto -
GU -
Rookie cards (true) -
Rookie parallels -
1/1 -
Logoman/tagmen/other high end -


Is this info necessary for Option 2 as well?

MatthewLee
06-30-2009, 05:41 PM
If you are applying for option #1 of a player, then we need the following information:

Example:
Auto -
GU -
Rookie cards (true) -
Rookie parallels -
1/1 -
Logoman/tagmen/other high end -


Is this info necessary for Option 2 as well?

PPPanthersGM
06-30-2009, 05:47 PM
If you are applying for option #1 of a player, then we need the following information:

Example:
Auto -
GU -
Rookie cards (true) -
Rookie parallels -
1/1 -
Logoman/tagmen/other high end -


Is this info necessary for Option 2 as well?




For Option 2 we will need a the total amount of cards owned also a GU and a auto count. if you have the numbers go ahead and send me a pm and I will get your app started.

Brandon

MatthewLee
06-30-2009, 05:51 PM
For Option 2 we will need a the total amount of cards owned also a GU and a auto count. if you have the numbers go ahead and send me a pm and I will get your app started.

Brandon
Got it thanks Brandon!
A few more incoming and I'll have my final tally.

PPPanthersGM
06-30-2009, 06:17 PM
Anytime Matthew! sorry it took so long to get back to you though!

ISO NJ 30 G
07-01-2009, 03:25 PM
Brandon:
Can you see post #88 in this thread and let me know about those questions? Or can someone else? Thanks.

-Matt

trevorp121
07-02-2009, 03:40 AM
I answered the questions in blue. If you would like me to elaborate on any of them just let me know...

Hey SCF Staff folks:

I have a couple of Player Super Collector questions:
-When applying, can I apply for both option 1 and option 2? And can I be granted one while rejected on the other?

If you meet the requirements for one, I personally dont see the need to apply for both but if you wanted to there is nothing wrong with it.

-What about cards on their way from Upper Deck via redemption?

They would not count towards the collection until they are in-hand. Sorry
-What about versions of cards (for option 2 now) that Beckett does not list? For instance, Press Pass basketball black and white variations and blue reflectors (retail) variations, and Murad mini black-bordered variations?

They would count towards the total that you have and then we would add them to the total count.
-Pertaining, slightly, to the previous colored patch question: 08-09 Hot Prospects Rookie Materials manufactured letter autos. Beckett does not list each letter individually (like the N, the E, the T and the S if they spell out NETS). Would you consider them individual? It is trackable, the different patch variations, as each card on the bottom lets you know what the letters are spelling out.

Although it is really cool to spell stuff out like that. It wouldnt count towards the total as they are technically the same card

I think that's everything I'm wondering at the moment. Thanks!

-Matt

eddiejr
07-10-2009, 06:08 PM
i have a question for option #1
i only collect Chris Paul's RC's & the parallels to them
i have all 29 RC's & over 90% of the parallels (not including 1/1's)
but he has 500 auto's & 776 GU

so i would need to have 50 autos & 116 GU's to be considered a supercollector, correct?

ChromeYouthQuake
07-11-2009, 07:12 AM
I want to summit my 09 Chrome youthquake set. Would this go under set collection? I only collect cards from this one set. All the cards are serial number and I did the math, there are only 1191 cards made and almost half (495) are the common players in the set with high print runs. All the "A" list stars are number to just /30.Would you look at quantity or quality when judging this set? Should I go out and buy 50 more R.Lopezs? Thank you for your time.

NickRadz23
07-27-2009, 07:02 PM
Can i have a mod help me with my DeAndre Jordan collection? Im looking up his cards on beckett and when i hit memorabilia for example some of the items that show up are Game Used AUtographs. So would that count towards the number of game used i need? or strictly do JUST game used cards count towards it? If a mod could pm me with what i would need of each that would be great. thanx! :)

NickRadz23
08-09-2009, 10:57 PM
So how many sets do you need to become a Supercollector? I mean im working pretty fast on the 06-07 Finest Auto RC refractor set which in total books $526 so like 2-3 sets in that range? lmk. thanx!

sportyryan101
08-11-2009, 09:22 AM
So how many sets do you need to become a Supercollector? I mean im working pretty fast on the 06-07 Finest Auto RC refractor set which in total books $526 so like 2-3 sets in that range? lmk. thanx!

I think it means that you have to collect a set for a few years, like for example:

Have these completed sets:
04-05 UD
05-06 UD
06-07 UD


I don't think you can just complete random sets.

GilbertArenas0
08-23-2009, 04:43 PM
1.I have a question for Team Super Collector. There's teams like the Bullets/Wizards and Sonics/Thunder that have many cards under both names. So if I tried to go for Wizards Super Collector, would Bullets cards also count in my total or not? They're the same team but with a different name, so i'm just wondering.

2.Might as well ask another one: How about college cards, would they count? Example, I have a few Press Pass/SP Top Prospects rookie cards of Rip Hamilton. Since he was drafted by the Wizards and he was a Wizard at the time of those cards' releases, would they count?

3. Last question I think. What about cards of players in transition? Would of a card of a player in a Wizards uni, but listed as "traded to, signed by, etc. another team " count? Same question of a player who's in a different team uni but is listed as "signed by, traded to, etc. the Wizards".

EDIT: Found my answer for #2, still need #1 though.

JammingJames23
08-29-2009, 06:18 PM
Good questions - after some discussion, we decided that both team name and location changes count together, as illustrated in the recent addition of Lil Hornet's collection.

For the last question, uniform and/or team name can both count toward part of a team collection, as long as at least one is there on the card.

cardmansteve
09-18-2009, 06:26 PM
I'd like to try for Super Collector status with Ray Allen. My entire list is on my Homepage and I have some of my Ray Allen highlights pictured in my photobucket. Stats:
Auto - 5 RC - 16 GU - 93 (there are tons of dupes on rcs and even some of the gu)

Total # of different Allens is 864 to date.

JammingJames23
09-20-2009, 02:53 PM
PM will be sent shortly.

basketball fiend
10-18-2009, 06:50 PM
have a question. i collect mostly lebron stuff, mostly GU, got some autos, collect only his topps chrome rc's. can i qualify for SC if i have over 100 GU (all different).
im currently working on a refractor collection of lebron.

ChosenOne719
10-19-2009, 08:17 PM
my team collection wouldnt be that good since other team jerseys dont count... I collect the wizards so guys like Arenas started their career on other teams so I have stuff from the first team he was on

JammingJames23
10-19-2009, 08:21 PM
There are two options for SuperCollector as explained in the original thread post. The first one requires a mix of high end items, including 60% of all RCs. If you just have LeBron's Chrome RCs and no other RCs of his, then you don't have 60%. The second option is for those who collect everything of a player, high end or not, and includes the minimum required percentages for each category. You can check Beckett to see if you meet the percentage requirements for those categories.