I am 15 old and i work in the summer each years since 2007. With the money i saved in my bankroll (3000$) i will buy all the tavares rookie cards that i can because his cards will be impossible to have in the future. You know the Crosby Young Gun ? This card was sell 100$ when he played his first games in the nhl and now this card is sell 200$ to 225$.


NOW ALL THE COLLECTORS DO LIKE ME AND SAVED YOUR MONEY! NO WORRIES HE CAN'T BE THE NEXT DOUG WEKHEINEIZER AND YOU SAW IT AT THE LAST JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP!:party0048::winking0071:

next alexander daigle

What are you talking about...You don't think he is not better than Kane,Stamkos or Toews?

I am sure about that and he could play in the nhl this year easily

Hey, you shoud save some for the future boy. But yes he will be great I believe.

What are you talking about...You don't think he is not better than Kane,Stamkos or Toews?

I am sure about that and he could play in the nhl this year easily

I truly believe in not putting all your money in one basket. Of course if he does pan out you will be sitting pretty but if not then what. If you like him dollars aside which I do not think you do spend it all as you will enjoy it no matter what amount of $'s the cards are worth. If your in it for the money do not BUY!! As even Crosby stuff will come down. How can his Cup go for $13,000 while Malkin goes for $1500. All cards usually sell high then fall dramatically. So buyer beware on hot rookies.

DOn

next alexander daigle

i agree. same with him and stamkos. taylor hall is where the moneys at. or matt duchene

I think Hedman will be a hidden gem. Defenseman NEVER get love off the bat and usually take awhile to fully develop.

Tavares is good, better than Stamkos yes, but Kane or Toews? No way. I personally think Kane is better than Toews though everyone tells me otherwise.:rolleyes:

I agree with Don, don't put all your egss in one basket and if it is about money, you'll get hosed in the long run.

I think Hedman will be a hidden gem. Defenseman NEVER get love off the bat and usually take awhile to fully develop.

Tavares is good, better than Stamkos yes, but Kane or Toews? No way. I personally think Kane is better than Toews though everyone tells me otherwise.:rolleyes:

I agree with Don, don't put all your egss in one basket and if it is about money, you'll get hosed in the long run.

hedman has proved to be very inconsistent. he was no good at the WJC. he has a ton of potential but i don't see him jumping right to the nhl

I think Tavares will be decent in the NHL. He has the size that stamkos didnt have. Duchene is small as well and wont be good in the nhl right away. A bobby ryan type situation. I dont think that Tavares got the hype Crosby did so his cards wont be in the $1000 range. But he is Canadian and will get the hobby love if he plays good. It will be fun to watch.

Im going to invest a little in Tangradi... since he was traded to the penguins. He is a sick player and look where he ranks with Tavares. Meanwhile next year Tavares will be playing with who? and Tangradi will be playing with who?...
He never goes noticed I guess because he didnt go straight to the NHL. But If you can find his stuff cheap, Id go for it. Crosby/Malkin/Tangradi sounds like a beautiful 1-2-3 punch!

I truly believe in not putting all your money in one basket. Of course if he does pan out you will be sitting pretty but if not then what. If you like him dollars aside which I do not think you do spend it all as you will enjoy it no matter what amount of $'s the cards are worth. If your in it for the money do not BUY!! As even Crosby stuff will come down. How can his Cup go for $13,000 while Malkin goes for $1500. All cards usually sell high then fall dramatically. So buyer beware on hot rookies.

DOn
This is absolutely true! Always take as much info from those of us who have seen this happen. Get our hopes up that this is the next gretzky. Buy thier stuff at ridiculous value. have them come into the league with great expectations. They either choke or don't perform as expected. All that hard earned money you paid to get thier top RC is suddenly only 1/10th what it was two years ago. You sit there unhappy with the loss. Then ask yourself. Why the heck am I collecting this stuff anyway. Then leave the hobby for other pursuits.
Keep in mind this hobby is better suited for purpose of passion, and never think you are really here to make money on it. The values are set by demand, and is driven by that passion. It all goes hand in hand with player performance.
With all that said, If going after Tavares RC is your passion. So be it! At your young age you will learn a great deal, and always take collecting advice from veterean collectors. We have been there, and have seen the trends. This is good you posted.
Brian

Yes, card collecting is because you want to do it, not because of money. If it's money your looking for, I would suggest elsewhere. I KNOW I have spent alot more then I profited. But, it doesnt bother me because I love doing it. Who knows, maybe 30 40 years from now... my cards might be worth a million dollars? Or Zero.

actually your right man hes the next one you should invest huge $$ into him hes the next big thing. I know I would if I have 3 grand saved up for him.


What are you talking about...You don't think he is not better than Kane,Stamkos or Toews?

I am sure about that and he could play in the nhl this year easily

If you are looking to buy cards that will keep value then do not buy all of Tavares rookies. People say you can not make money with cards, and for the most part it is difficult, but if you are smart it can be done, quite easily. It is dumb to buy those cheap lower end cards like young guns or future watch autos because there are way too many of them to ever really jump up. For example I have a bunch of Zach Parise FW autos I bought before he emerged as an MVP candidate. I bought them for about $25, now they sell for $45. $20 isnt exactly the return I'm looking for if I am selling PC stuff.

The only way to consistently make money is by sticking to purchasing cards that have extremely low print runs, and/or crazy looking patches. If you are patient, you will almost always turn a profit because regardless of who you collect, there are always at least a couple people who collect any given player, and they are always after those really rare cards. Yesterday a saw a Ville Koistonen or how ever you spell it, Cup Rc /4 sell for close to $300. Thats a no name player, still bringing in money. The point is, if you have something very limited, there will always be someone who will pay for it, and since you own something that is both unique and rare, YOU dictate the price it sells for. If I were you, and set on collecting Tavares, I'd pick up a few Cup rookies with nasty looking patches, maybe the Ice Premieres /99, the Ice Premieres Auto Patch, and most importantly, the only true 1/1 rookie that will always be in the highest demand, his Cup Gold Jersey numbered card, I'm guessing it'll be 91/91. Ovechkin's Gold Cup 8/8 sold for 23,000, so maybe Tavares will follow.

Yea, that is what you want to do if you are strictly in it for the money sure. And thats not a bad thing either. Lots of people do it, can be lucrative. ALl im saying is, is dont spend your wad on EVERY Tavares rookie that comes out... Find a bunch of rare ones like the post about says, of people who have ALOT of potential, like someone like Tavares, Hedman, Tangradi, the first 3 NHL years may be so/so, but those kids bloom. Look at Parise, his cards doubled if not tripled in the past few months

Meh, he'll be good but not great. I personally was WAY more impressed by Hodgson.

I am 15 old and i work in the summer each years since 2007. With the money i saved in my bankroll (3000$) i will buy all the tavares rookie cards that i can because his cards will be impossible to have in the future. You know the Crosby Young Gun ? This card was sell 100$ when he played his first games in the nhl and now this card is sell 200$ to 225$.


NOW ALL THE COLLECTORS DO LIKE ME AND SAVED YOUR MONEY! NO WORRIES HE CAN'T BE THE NEXT DOUG WEKHEINEIZER AND YOU SAW IT AT THE LAST JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP!:party0048::winking0071:

Never put all your eggs in the same basket. Guys like Eric Lindros were supposed to be as great as Gretzky. See the results. Most prospects won't reach expectations. Tavares was good in the juniors, but never as dominant as Mario Lemieux or Mike Bossy. I see Tavares possibly as good as a Steve Yzerman, and what is the hobby value of Steve Yzerman? There is only 1 Wayne Gretzky. Only 1 Patrick Roy. Almost impossible to reach the full hobby value of legend names as Gretzky or Roy.

Yea, that is what you want to do if you are strictly in it for the money sure. And thats not a bad thing either. Lots of people do it, can be lucrative. ALl im saying is, is dont spend your wad on EVERY Tavares rookie that comes out... Find a bunch of rare ones like the post about says, of people who have ALOT of potential, like someone like Tavares, Hedman, Tangradi, the first 3 NHL years may be so/so, but those kids bloom. Look at Parise, his cards doubled if not tripled in the past few months

Names like Parise will get temporary hobby value. In 20 years nobody will collect cards of Zach Parise, like nobody in 2009 collects cards of Pat Lafontaine or Pierre Turgeon. Reason: most collectors of today won't collect in 20 years, and newest collectors don't want cards of past players they haven't seen played (so when no demand the cards get no value). It is sadly always the same pattern in this hobby.

Names like Parise will get temporary hobby value. In 20 years nobody will collect cards of Zach Parise, like nobody in 2009 collects cards of Pat Lafontaine or Pierre Turgeon. Reason: most collectors of today won't collect in 20 years, and newest collectors don't want cards of past players they haven't seen played (so when no demand the cards get no value). It is sadly always the same pattern in this hobby.

That is very true it all about Here and Now.

DOn

Names like Parise will get temporary hobby value. In 20 years nobody will collect cards of Zach Parise, like nobody in 2009 collects cards of Pat Lafontaine or Pierre Turgeon. Reason: most collectors of today won't collect in 20 years, and newest collectors don't want cards of past players they haven't seen played (so when no demand the cards get no value). It is sadly always the same pattern in this hobby.

Generally I agree with what you are saying, and maybe you are just speaking in generalities using Parise as an example, but I see his stuff staying fairly valuable for one reason. Every fan base has their favorites. I am a Devils fan and know quite a few people who collect Devils stuff, and would assume it is the same for pretty much every organization. A guy like Scott, Stevens or Elias who has little value overall, still have pretty big followings from people who collect Devils stuff. Now it is hard to tell if these cards will hold up, or go the way of the 90's inserts, but I really do not see the market changing that much. So essentially with guys who hold a huge place in the history of their Franchise, such as Elias, or potentially Parise, there will always be a market due to the players relevance to a fanbase. So again, maybe those Future Watch cards out of /999 will drop off, but the really exclusive short printed stuff IMO wont really. I can't tell you how many Luc Robataille short prints from The Cup I've seen go for ridiculous amounts, simply because a few L.A. Kings collectors go into a bidding war. Lafontaine may not have a huge following, but a guy like Doug Gilmour or Salming does. As long as a guy has significant ties to a fanbase, there will always be a market.

If you're just in it for the money you're in this hobby for all the wrong reasons.

If you're just in it for the money you're in this hobby for all the wrong reasons.

amen to that. think im collecting boyle for the money? :sign0020:

If you're just in it for the money you're in this hobby for all the wrong reasons.

While it is not really advised to enter the hobby for the money, I do not think it is wise to just blindly waste money either. Everyone has their own philosophy on this, but the way I see it, is why **** away money just for the heck of it. I love the hobby and try to collect the nicest stuff possible of guys I like, however it is silly to ignore the fact that there may come a day when you no longer feel like collecting anymore. At that point, some people may look at their collections, and some of them will probably get little if anything back for all the money they put into it. I would prefer to have something to show for all the time and money I put into the hobby. Not only this, but is also way easier to upgrade cards for your collection if you can easily move stuff you already have.

Tavares is a bum.
You can all go ga-ga and drive his stuff up... especially when he's an Islander.
Hodgson is a far better player... you'll see.

Tavares is a bum.
You can all go ga-ga and drive his stuff up... especially when he's an Islander.
Hodgson is a far better player... you'll see.

no...hodgson won't be as good as tavares but tavares wont be as good as people hope.

Meh, he'll be good but not great. I personally was WAY more impressed by Hodgson.

Nice finally someone who sees that Hodgson is the real deal. Great in pressure situations, great leader and currently leading the OHL in playoff scoring with 3 goals and 7 points in 3 games played. Look for Hodgson as soon as his cards become available. Me personally I am after Shea Weber rookies and Hodgson as soon as the high end come out next year.

How can his Cup go for $13,000 while Malkin goes for $1500.


Marketing. Canada v. Russia. Do Crosby YG still outbook the AO YG?

Marketing. Canada v. Russia. Do Crosby YG still outbook the AO YG?

Yea, doubled.

no...hodgson won't be as good as tavares but tavares wont be as good as people hope.

Then you need to read the piece about the OHL Coaches End of Season awards... the coaches know who the better player is.

To be fair, what do the OHL awards have to do with anything? You know who won last year's "Most Outstanding Player" ??

Justin Azevedo

Now.... I think Azevedo was deserving of the award, he had a great season. I saw 20+ games of his, over his Junior career. He was a spectacular junior player..... who was taken in the 7th round by the Kings last year, as a 20 year old. OHL awards mean squat, when it comes to what sort of NHLer they will be.

Now, I'm not suggesting that Hodgson is comparable to Azevedo. Far from it. I think he's going to be a fantastic NHLer in a couple of years (and probably a decent one next year).

I don't know what you (or anyone) has been watching through, to think he's going to turn out to be better than Tavares. JT is worth the hype. Is he going to be Crosby or Ovechkin? No, probably not. Will he be able to walk onto Long Island next year, and score 35 goals? Yes, he probably will.

Then you need to read the piece about the OHL Coaches End of Season awards... the coaches know who the better player is.

Never put all your eggs in the same basket. Guys like Eric Lindros were supposed to be as great as Gretzky. See the results. Most prospects won't reach expectations. Tavares was good in the juniors, but never as dominant as Mario Lemieux or Mike Bossy. I see Tavares possibly as good as a Steve Yzerman, and what is the hobby value of Steve Yzerman? There is only 1 Wayne Gretzky. Only 1 Patrick Roy. Almost impossible to reach the full hobby value of legend names as Gretzky or Roy.

That's the other part of it. Lindros was everything he was reputed to be - until the injuries hit. Any one of these great young players could blow out a knee, take an eye injury, who knows? RC value drops like a stone after that.

don't know what you (or anyone) has been watching through, to think he's going to turn out to be better than Tavares. JT is worth the hype. Is he going to be Crosby or Ovechkin? No, probably not. Will he be able to walk onto Long Island next year, and score 35 goals? Yes, he probably will.

If Tavares scores 35 for the Islanders next year, I'll print off this thread and eat it.

Then you need to read the piece about the OHL Coaches End of Season awards... the coaches know who the better player is.

awards really do mean nothing. and your opinion is very biased. i don't have opinions on tavares or hodgson but I still feel tavares will be better. and honestly, i think duchene is better than both of em

If Tavares scores 35 for the Islanders next year, I'll print off this thread and eat it.

I will try to remember this. If it happens will be a great promotional video. Look what true hockey fans chat about on SCF. Some even eat their own words (with you providing the props on the SCF youtube channel).

DON