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gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 04:49 PM
OK, now i usually wouldnt do this, but stay away from this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Al-Jefferson-CELTICS-Insert-Autograph-w-coa_W0QQitemZ220381657648QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item220381657648&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Why is it fake you ask? Well for one Jefferson doesnt sign that way, i have autos of him from 04-05, 05-06, 07-08, and see tons of his autos all the time, it always is signed "Big Al" and is signed kinda sloppy...there is no way this is real

bballcardheaven
03-23-2009, 04:54 PM
Sometimes players sign differently in person than they do on cards. For example, Carmelo Anthony signs Cl Aty on cards but in person all you get is CA.

gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 04:57 PM
Sometimes players sign differently in person than they do on cards. For example, Carmelo Anthony signs Cl Aty on cards but in person all you get is CA.
i understand that, but i've seen other IP autos of his, there signed "Big Al", plus the signature looks to neat for him, he usually signs really sloppy

i think its kinda shady though that there is no scan or mentioning of the COA he has, he doesnt even say who its from..

Gtbballer20
03-23-2009, 05:15 PM
Looks totally fake!!!

#50 Tyler Hansbrough
03-23-2009, 05:37 PM
I dont even know what his auto looks like and I can tell thats fake!!!!!

gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 05:41 PM
to cement my case, heres examples of his signature...

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/bowlerontherise/Al%20Jefferson%20PC%20NFT/Auto/04-05/0405bigalauto.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/bowlerontherise/Al%20Jefferson%20PC%20NFT/Auto/04-05/bigal0506trilogysignsofstardomauto.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/bowlerontherise/Al%20Jefferson%20PC%20NFT/Auto/05-06/0506bigalauto.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/bowlerontherise/Al%20Jefferson%20PC%20NFT/Auto/05-06/bigal0506upperdeckrookiedebutauto.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/bowlerontherise/Al%20Jefferson%20PC%20NFT/Auto/05-06/JEFFERSONAL05-06SPGAMEUSEDSIGNIFICA.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/bowlerontherise/Al%20Jefferson%20PC%20NFT/Auto/07-08/bigaljspxsuperscripts0708.jpg

#50 Tyler Hansbrough
03-23-2009, 05:42 PM
Yeah that ebay one is fake. I dont think Ive ever seen that card. Is it even real??

gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 05:44 PM
Yeah that ebay one is fake. I dont think Ive ever seen that card. Is it even real??

yep the cards real, i have it :)

MatthewLee
03-23-2009, 05:46 PM
Looks shady...
Email that fool and ask him how he obtained it! :sign0020:

NickRadz23
03-23-2009, 05:46 PM
yea 100%..........FAKE!!!!!!

bballcardheaven
03-23-2009, 05:49 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/AL-JEFFERSON-MINNESOTA-TIMBERWOLVES-SIGNED-BASKETBALL_W0QQitemZ190277795164QQcmdZViewItemQQpt ZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item190277795164&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1199%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200

http://cgi.ebay.com/Al-Jefferson-Boston-Celtics-Star-Signed-Autograph_W0QQitemZ220338764527QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ LH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item220338764527&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1199%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200

MatthewLee
03-23-2009, 05:50 PM
Hmmm, this variation also:
http://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson810rebound1.jpg

bbplaya
03-23-2009, 05:51 PM
Hmmm, this variation also:
http://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson810rebound1.jpg

that looks just like his, maybe it is real

gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 05:52 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/AL-JEFFERSON-MINNESOTA-TIMBERWOLVES-SIGNED-BASKETBALL_W0QQitemZ190277795164QQcmdZViewItemQQpt ZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item190277795164&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1199%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200

http://cgi.ebay.com/Al-Jefferson-Boston-Celtics-Star-Signed-Autograph_W0QQitemZ220338764527QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ LH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item220338764527&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1199%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200

that second one looks completely bogus...the first one looks close to the one in the first post but still looks really different

gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 05:53 PM
that looks just like his, maybe it is real

they look close, but i'm going to pm the seller and get more info

MatthewLee
03-23-2009, 05:57 PM
http://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpg

also:

http://images.auctionhelper.com/images/9677/Al%20F.jpg

Too many variations to say for sure. :(
http://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpg

daburghbucs18
03-23-2009, 05:59 PM
I think he uses the "Big Al" on certs and the other signature In Person

gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 05:59 PM
http://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpghttp://beta.asoundstrategy.com/sitemaster/userUploads/site77/jefferson1620_2005_1.jpg

Nice Work Matt, it could be real, and if so i feel bad :(

i did send a message to the seller asking if i can get specifics on the COA

MatthewLee
03-23-2009, 06:02 PM
Nice Work Matt, it could be real, and if so i feel bad :(

i did send a message to the seller asking if i can get specifics on the COA
Cool, np...let us know! :winking0071:

gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 06:19 PM
quick response! he said "the COA is serial numbered from Fielders Choice Sports"....

never heard of them?

MatthewLee
03-23-2009, 06:22 PM
quick response! he said "the COA is serial numbered from Fielders Choice Sports"....

never heard of them?
They're in Mass...
http://www.fielderschoicesports.com/
Baseball gear though. :(

gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 06:23 PM
They're in Mass...
http://www.fielderschoicesports.com/
Baseball gear though. :(

i wouldnt feel comfortable getting it then, i felt for the price, if the COA was legitamate i'd get it, but if he got a mainly Baseball COA for a Basketball card, i'll stay away

MatthewLee
03-23-2009, 06:36 PM
i wouldnt feel comfortable getting it then, i felt for the price, if the COA was legitamate i'd get it, but if he got a mainly Baseball COA for a Basketball card, i'll stay away
You owe me man. :sign0020::winking0071:
I contacted both parties personally.
The baseball equipment company in Mass. has zero affilaition.

The actual seller of the card on ebay 'is' the other Fielders Choice.
He says he did card signings way back...COA is through him.
Any problems and he said he'll refund.
Hope that helps!

gladdyontherise
03-23-2009, 06:39 PM
You owe me man. :sign0020::winking0071:
I contacted both parties personally.
The baseball equipment company in Mass. has zero affilaition.

The actual seller of the card on ebay 'is' the other Fielders Choice.
He says he did card signings way back...COA is through him.
Any problems and he said he'll refund.
Hope that helps!

yea, if the COA is through him, it seems sorta wierd..lol

MatthewLee
03-23-2009, 06:41 PM
yea, if the COA is through him, it seems sorta wierd..lol
Yep, autos/coas' are always weird. :ashamed0001:
Personally I don't touch them.

InLoveWithBox
03-23-2009, 09:02 PM
nice catch

tboculosis
03-23-2009, 09:50 PM
That autographed card doesn't look like it'll pass PSA/DNA, so I say fake even though Al Jefferson signed his full name earlier in his career than just "Big Al", which he signs on everything now.

certified issued:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/tboculosis/AlJefferson1.jpg


in person at the game quick version:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/tboculosis/AlJefferson2.jpg


in person sit down autograph session version:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/tboculosis/AlJefferson3.jpg

grapesodarocks
03-23-2009, 10:36 PM
I'd be careful about public accusations. I think some people on the old beckett board ran into some trouble with false accusations.

At first I thought it was odd to fake a Big Al auto. No offense to him or people who collect him, but his certified RC auto's don't sell for much, so why fake his auto? Then I checked out the sellers previous sales. It does seem rather odd the seller has a bunch of random autographs with the same type of shady COA. I think the big red flag is the Tiger Woods auto which sold for $40 from a BUY IT NOW option. That seems like pretty low expectations for an authentic Tiger auto.

I think a good rule in general is to avoid all autographs that are not certified by the manufacturer, or by PSA/Beckett.

wheeler281
03-24-2009, 01:10 AM
it's 1.80 for crying out loud.

JesRey
03-24-2009, 02:31 AM
I like how he'll throw in another fake auto is you use a credit card(Not paypal) lol