I don't agree with some of these on the list... Like Plummer.. no one rates him high in the first place... and how are you going to say that Big Ben is overrated?

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/mostoverrated.html?partnersite=espn

i dont agree with the fact that some players are on there just because they are injured alot. even though pavel bure hasnt done much it is because of his knees. when he is healthy, he still displays his goal scoring touch greatly.

overrated hockey (im not in an arguing mood so if you dont like my list...tough)

in no particular order:

lindros
belfour
cechmanek (not so much anymore...people know he sucks now)
richter (retired now)

im sure im forgetting some so add to the list


underrated:

luongo
brodeur
francis
joe mullen (retired)


i made this list in 2 mintues before i went to bed so i definitely forgot some...add whoever you feel necessary to either list

I like Belfour!

Where's Ken Griffey Junior? Ever since he left that short right field porch in Seattle, he hasn't done a **** thing!

Jeter and Soriano overrated? That guy doesn't know what he's talking about!

I'm not saying that because I'm a Yankee fan, either. Not sure I agree on his closer position, too.

Tim

I certainly do agree with some of the athletes on that list

First and foremost is Vince Carter, who is the 2nd most heavily hyped up NBA player. The first is Grant Hill, who was supposed to be the next Michael Jordan. While he was healthy, he wasn’t even 1/2 of a Kobe, much less Jordan.
And then came along the next MJ, aka Vince “half human, half amazing” Carter. He was a superb player several years ago, good enough to almost take his team to the NBA Finals, barely missing out due to Iverson and the Sixers. The minute he got his $90-110M contract, things went downhill. He started missing all these games due to injuries here and there. Kobe this year alone has had injuries to his ankle, ribs, shoulder, wrist, knee....and he still played 90%+ of the games.

Second, Antoine Walker is so incredibly hyped up that it’s sad. This guy basically likes to shoot 3-pointers, and that’s it. He hasn’t improved much of other aspects of his game. And next year, the same Walker will show up as the one in previous years. Players like T-Mac, KG, Kobe have all shown improvements in other areas of their game (Kobe this year shot the 3-pointers better than in previous year; and his outside stroke was more consistent)

Third, Jerry Stackhouse -- this guy, supposedly a go-to guy, has performed horribly in play-offs. It’s one thing to do well, and your team is just bad (a la Kevin Garnett, Jordan in his early years, Pierce)...it’s another thing to disappear when your team desperately needs you to play your game.

Notice that the list has a lot of NBA players? David Stern does a great job hyping up the game, much like Vince McMahon of WWF

I disagree about Phil Mickelson -- the point in golf is to play it, have fun, and make money. He’s very wealthy. Sure, he doesn’t win the big ones. But, I’ll gladly take winning the small tournaments and making several million bucks. Tiger can have his $100M or whatever.

Originally posted by IggyWH
Where's Ken Griffey Junior? Ever since he left that short right field porch in Seattle, he hasn't done a **** thing!

Thank you.

I'm glad somebody else brought him up and not me.

Griffey should be there.

Mister I was voted onto the All Century Team and now isn't even in the top 30 best baseball players of today.

well, in Griffey's defense,

he's gotten a few hits and a couple of homers these past few years in the Reds uniform

that oughta be good for a few millions, huh?

lololol

Griffey definetly, Carter, Grant(im 2 injured to play)Hill, and some may disagree with me on this, but i have to say Reggie Miller. Only because he is such a hot-dog. He is really given more credit than what he deserves. The guy really is not that great. His shooting % is not that high. He may make some three pointers and free throws, but thats all he does. And i will never forget this(i forget which playoff year it was), but Miller and the Pacers were playing the Bulls in the playoffs, and Miller was supposedly sooo injured, that he didnt play most of the game, and near the end of the game, he nailed this key three that lead to the Pacers victory. Then after they won, he started skipping/leaping across the court in joy, showing no signs that he still had an injured ankle. Which was supposedly the reason he didnt play most of the game.

HEY! Don't hit on my boy Reggie!!

He's from UCLA, my alma mater, and that makes him untouchable!!

Same for Baron Davis

lolol

How is Ben Wallace overrated? If anything i'd say he's underrated. He just goes in, does his job, and leaves.:confused:

Podstock-
my friend is a UCLA grad as well, and i know that they dont take that kinda stuff too well(learned from experience involving Jabaar lol) But you still must agree with me that Miller has always been a hot-dog, EVEN during his days with the Bruins.

I don't know if I would say Vince is overrated. The last 2 seasons he has been injured so much. I do know that the fans in Toronto are becoming tired of him.Too much money for a guy sitting on the bench rubbing his ankle. We should have been in the playoffs this season. The Raps also had AD,JYD,and Hakeem on the sidelines with injuries. I like what I saw from Skip-to--My-Lou(Rafer Alston) though.

Ben is not over-rated... some people just don't understand that basketball is more than just putting the ball in the hole.

Ben does the simple things, he rebounds, plays defense, runs plays effectively. He just cant shoot that well, otherwise he's a great player.

The most overrated athlete ever is michael jordan

Originally posted by Masson26
The most overrated athlete ever is michael jordan

How can the greatest basketball player ever be OVERRATED?

because he isnt the best player ever, wilt chamberlin and bill russell are much better.Wilt averaged 30+points and 20+ rebounds over his career, and if michael jordan hadnt had Scottie Pippen with him all thoses years, he wouldnt even hav 1 championship, i would take pippen in his prime ove michael any day.

Jordan did everything for his team, and being the die-hard Bulls that i am, i would know. Pippen thrived off the Jordan, the whole team did. Jordan scored, rebounded, dished out assists, he did the little and big things. Jordan played hurt and sick all the time, he rarely missed a game. He is the greatest basketball player of all time arguably(only players' worth arguing for are Chamberlin and Abdul-Jabar). He won hell of a lot of scoring titles, and he was well deserving of them and the 6 Championships. The Bulls would not of won a single one if it wasnt for him, and look where they are now with out him...

Originally posted by Masson26
because he isnt the best player ever, wilt chamberlin and bill russell are much better.Wilt averaged 30+points and 20+ rebounds over his career, and if michael jordan hadnt had Scottie Pippen with him all thoses years, he wouldnt even hav 1 championship, i would take pippen in his prime ove michael any day.

DID YOU JUST SAY YOU'D TAKE PIPPEN OVER JORDAN???!!!!

Jordan was the one who carried Pippen all those years.

Look at Pippen after he left the Bulls versus Jordan on the Wizards.

Its not even close.

NOT EVEN PIPPEN HIMSELF WOULD SAY HE WAS BETTER THAN MJ.

Pwaldo -- that fellow is nuts!!

while I despise Bulls, and am not a fan of Jordan.. .I'd be nuts to say he wasn't the greatest, or at least #2, of all time.

And this comes from a Magic Johnson and Lakers-loving fan.

Now, had Jordan actually played without taking time off, he'd be right up there, cementing his names on the stats, and making it impossible to not call him #1.

But, I see what others are saying. To play devil's advocate:

First, Bill Russell led the Celtics to 11 titles; Jordan has 6, not that much from Magic's 5.

Second, Kareem is #1 in scoring, Malone #2...Jordan is up there, but not at the top

Third, Jordan was a clutch player, and made the big shots, but then again...he's almost missed many big shots

(remember his classic Nike commercial that went something like this "...I've missed 5000 shots in my career, I've missed 3000 free throws, I've taken and missed 23 game winning shots...but I keep trying...and that is what makes me a winner..."

But there are plenty of clutch players -- Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Bill Mikan, Magic/Bird, Kobe.

So, you see, there can be arguments as to why Jordan isn't #1.

If you want an analogy -- try the following: "Jerry Rice is the greatest football player of all-time"

Now consider his stats and contributions:

#1 All-time in TDs overall
#1 all time in receiving TDs
#1 all time in receptions
#1 all time in yards receiving

for playoffs -- see above

for super bowl -- see above

1987 NFL MVP (not many WRs get this award)
1989 NFL Super Bowl MVP
3 Super Bowl Championship teams (and he was an integral part, not just a bench player)

No other player in any other position (QBs, RBs, etc) dominates his respective position than Rice.

I would not say he's the greatest football player, though. He is the greatest wide receiver. I think the greatest all around player was Red Grange or Jim Thorpe. They were AMAZING and nobody even knows about them.

Tim

i HATE basketball and here is what i have to say to the person who said they would take pippen over jordan:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


that may have been the worst comment ive ever heard in my life. now i hate to make fun of other people's opinions, but seriously, that was the dumbest thing ive ever heard.

in the words of the fat comic book owner on the simpsons:

"WORST COMMENT EVER!"

Greg Vaughn. The guy used to be viewed as a good player. He only hit homers and couldn't get on base for a hit. Then the D-Rays gave him a big contract and his numbers slumped. He also got hurt and was eventually was released.

grant hill and griffey fit the same mold, injuries have hurt, but still overated