So, I posted this on the other card website with no responded help.
Everyone just complained about shrink wrap & golfers.

My Area of concern is:
The UD 2008-2009 Champs Mini Jersey "HALL OF LEGENDS" inserts.

The card in question:
2008HOL-JI (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:SelectCard%2812%29)Jarome Iginla Flames
Jarome Iginla, I feel that he shouldn't be in the set, in the first place,
possibly included by mistake? Just my thoughts.

The main reason why I am asking is this....

Scan #1, shows a sample from an auction web site, showing a
"TYPICAL" Calgary Flames Jersey Swatch.
I do know that it is RED, thats a given.
I see the holes in the Jersey, This tells me, it's "STANDARD ISSUE" Jersey card material, nothing special?

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk319/FFIMBucket/random%20postings/iginlaleg2.jpg


Scan #2, shows a sample from a card that I won on an auction web site,
(not in my possession yet, but has been paid for & should be mine soon)
showing a "NOT SO TYPICAL" Calgary Flames Jersey Swatch.
It's true, it's still RED.
But the FABRIC reminds me of Montreal Canadian Materials.
it's the TIGHT MESHY kind.

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk319/FFIMBucket/random%20postings/iginlaleg.jpg

So, my question is:
Do you know, if this is #2 card is from a CALGARY FLAMES JERSEY?
Is it an ERROR card & or has someone else's swatch?
Would you complain to UD about it?
What do you think?

:confused0024::confused0024:Thanks, any comments appreciated.:confused0024::confused0024:

I think your paranoid

I think your paranoid

ya seriously...i thought this was going to be a faked jersey thread but really theres nothing wrong with it. different parts of the jersey are different material.

Aren't the parts of the jersey under the armpits that material ? I could be wrong but like CNS stated I'm pretty sure different parts of the jersey's present different swatch textures.

Aren't the parts of the jersey under the armpits that material ? I could be wrong but like CNS stated I'm pretty sure different parts of the jersey's present different swatch textures.

You're right, different parts of the jerseys do produce different swatch textures.

I think your just being paranoid.

im pretty sure that the old ccm jerseys were the material on the top card and the new reebok jerseys are the material on the bottom card. i own a couple jerseys by each company and they are different material.
you can notice it here, erics piece is old ccm"with the holes", marc wasnt in the league when they wore ccm so his piece is reebok...my 2 cents

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z318/superlarrio/TRADE%20JERSEY/tundratandemssta.jpg

i have forwarded this to Mac Taylor of the CSI NY team.. hopefully he can help

This is another Champs Hall of Legends,

Except this is a MONTREAL CANADIAN Sweater from
Frank Mahovlich. The Canadians use a different type of jersey.
This fabric has been used there for a while, every Canadians
sweater/jersey card I ever owned has this type of fabric.

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk319/FFIMBucket/random%20postings/MahovlichLeg.jpg

To me, this looks the same as the Iginla Jersey that I am trying to clarify.

I am just trying to get an opinion from someone that OWNS a CALGARY FLAMES Jersey and can VERIFY that it does have the fabric in question.

If you don't know, don't reply. I don't need help from the peanut gallery
or someone trying to become a SUPER MESSAGE BOARD MEMBER.

i have forwarded this to Mac Taylor of the CSI NY team.. hopefully he can help

I'm crying because of the laugh :) Dan :D

why clown on someone who is just asking for help.

FFIMSMSI2007

To answer your question:

Throughout the history of the NHL, there have been a lot of places as to where jerseys came from. In fact I have seen game worn jerseys (not cards, but full jerseys worn by players in NHL games) where players were called up last minute and the team didn't have any jerseys ready for the player, so "authentic" jerseys (meaning w/ fight strap) were pulled out of a team shop, customized, and sent to the locker room for the player to wear.

Usually, this has happened on the road, but I know of an instance in the 2002-03 season when it happened where the equipment guy was sick and 2 AHLers got called up, and wound up wearing jerseys that only hours earlier had price tags on them.

Prior to the standardization on one jersey from one company, different jerseys were made of different materials from year to year, and even during the time that the league used one jersey manufacturer, the teams still had some say in the "knit" of their jersey. I own a few game worn jerseys, and have owned a few others. I also have pulled several of the Hall of Legends cards, including Johnny Bucyk and Gordie Howe.

The Howe looks much like the Mahovlich or Iginla (thick knit), and the Bucyk looks more like the Iginla (air knit (the one with holes)), except way older, and obviously, not red.

The answer to the question is yes, these various jersey types have been worn throughout the years by every team in the league. 80's and 90's jerseys tend to be more air knit, while the current jerseys and the older ones tend to be less that way, with the more "sweater" style knit.

So it is completely believable that there are different pieces of different jerseys being used for the same player. I would not expect pieces of Howe sweater to look like an Air Knit (larger holes) unless it was event worn, from some old timers game (at least his Wings sweaters anyways). But Iginla has played in a period where the league has had at least 3 or 4 knits or styles of sweaters. To me, the one with the solid fabric looks like its from the current (RBK) sweaters, while the other one looks older.

I appreciate the answer.

I have the Iginla Card to but its a 2 colour piece of jersey Blue ? & Gold?
Unless I am mistaken the Flames Jerseys dont have any blue on them or do they?

Thanks In Advance.

You're right, different parts of the jerseys do produce different swatch textures.

I'd like the credit as I stated it 1st

Ray33 - we're not clowning him. He is asking if the swatch is from a different jersey and we are just saying that it isn't and he's worrying over nothing

I own a lot of iginla GU, and they are all like the first card. I would have to argee with your second card being a piece from the new RBK jerseys.

I have the Iginla Card to but its a 2 colour piece of jersey Blue ? & Gold?
Unless I am mistaken the Flames Jerseys dont have any blue on them or do they?

Thanks In Advance.

Please show a scan of the card.

If you do an eBay search for {player} jersey, you will find that many of the jersey swatches are different types of cloth even though they may be the same color. Some have single layer fabric, some have double layer, some have tighter weaves.

Also, as someone mentioned earlier, these swatches may be from older jerseys. How many times do you see a player on one team with a swatch that says "worn while playing for ..."

I don't think you have to worry. It's probably genuine. Now, if that swatch had been replaced by a perfectly centered flames PATCH, then you might have a problem.

... pretty sure he a "she", as well.