Me and my cousin always have arguements over who is better, please vote so we can end this.

I think Manning is better. But I've liked Garcia since he was in the CFL.

manning gets my vote

Garcia is better

b/c he has taken the Niners to a playoff victory.

Manning hasn't won a play-offs game.

Both Manning and Garcia are inferior to Montana and Elway

I this point in manning career I would say he is better, than any QB in the league, manning isn't the reason they have not won any playoff games, it has been there defense, which they are building and I can see that team string together a few really good years maybe a championships, but they have to learn how to get past miami...

Originally posted by gioperation
I this point in manning career I would say he is better, than any QB in the league, manning isn't the reason they have not won any playoff games, it has been there defense, which they are building and I can see that team string together a few really good years maybe a championships, but they have to learn how to get past miami...

Gotta agree on the defense thing.

If the Colts would have had a defense the Colts could have 3 Super Bowls by now.

But I think Manning vs. Garcia is dead even. Just like Owens vs. Harrison I can't pick one. Its a toss up for me.

Gio -- I agree that Peyton Manning has not had good defenses on his team

But Manning has performed very poorly in the play-offs.

It's one thing to score 35 points for your team, and see your defense give up 42 points, and you lose a play-off game.

How do you explain Manning's performance in the 41-0 Thrashing by the Jets?

Manning was 14-37 for 137 yards and 2 INTs, with no TDs?

Granted, Jeff Garcia hasn't done much better....but at least he helped Niners come back to beat the Giants last year for his only play-off victory.

Marino had the same problem Manning did --- no defense; but at least Marino's team scored points in the play-offs.

And Manning has a RB in Edgerrin James, something marino never had

hey pod,

that is called only having one WR to throw to and defenses locking him up, look at the game and see how many dropped passes he had, a bunch... and here is another a far as the RB spot, garrison hearst and that other guy are jsut as good as Edgerrin at this point, why because he is having head game right now, he doesn't want to trust his knee jsut yet, although that can be different this year but last year OMG... now in San Fran he is Stokes to me is nasty and garcia had rice and TO to throw to, now both of thse guys will go over the middle... what indy needs is a combo like keenan mac and jimmy smith, while jimmy was going over the middle either, he didn't have to because keenan "mr possession" mac would...

After 5 years in the year I say compare both of them for 5 years and manning is your guy...

where was elway after 5 years about the same as he probably had the best trio to throw to ever...

just something to think about, when you get in the playoffs all of your weaknesses are exposed, which is good, because now they can be worked on and I think with dungy that will happen...

Have to go with Manning...

Manning=I agree with everybody that said there defense holds them back.Give coach Dungy a couple mores years or maybe just one and he is going to turn that defense aroud.

peyton manning because he is younger, both have the best receiver in their conference to throw too, but manning is a bit better. both play in cities with former QB legends.

Manning will have to do what Bonds did last year -- PERFORM in the play-offs

Otherwise, he's just another above-average player, but no more

Peyton Manning.

Jeff Garcia, he really hasn't had too many good receivers to throw to either, besides Owens and maybe Streets. Garcia buys a lot of extra time in the pocket, he can really throw the long ball well, and has great arm strength and accuracy.
I know most of you will say Manning has that too, but he really has not proved it. He may not have too much to work with, but take a look at what Favre has done with nothing. He turned Driver from a terrible receiver to a great one. Manning just doesn't really fit too well with his team, he doesn't really communicate well to them

gotta go with Manning but Garcia is a very good QB also!

Originally posted by bergzautos
Jeff Garcia, he really hasn't had too many good receivers to throw to either, besides Owens and maybe Streets. Garcia buys a lot of extra time in the pocket, he can really throw the long ball well, and has great arm strength and accuracy.
I know most of you will say Manning has that too, but he really has not proved it. He may not have too much to work with, but take a look at what Favre has done with nothing. He turned Driver from a terrible receiver to a great one. Manning just doesn't really fit too well with his team, he doesn't really communicate well to them

how did harrision break that reception record, and who threw the ball to him...

these are his 2002 stats
Rec-yards-avg(g)avg(c)(long)(td's)
1 M.Harrison 143 1722 107.6 12.0 69 11

Thats because Harrison was realistically his only option to throw to. He really can't trust many of the other guys besides Harrison, he really has no other choice...

Originally posted by bergzautos
Thats because Harrison was realistically his only option to throw to. He really can't trust many of the other guys besides Harrison, he really has no other choice...

while I agree with that, but that is what makes harrison and manning that much better, everygame they will put the best DB on harrison and double team him each play...

Originally posted by gioperation
how did harrision break that reception record, and who threw the ball to him...

these are his 2002 stats
Rec-yards-avg(g)avg(c)(long)(td's)
1 M.Harrison 143 1722 107.6 12.0 69 11

Harrison saved Manning on alot of his throws that no other wide reciever could have got to, but harrisons amazing.

Mannings still better tho

Its mainly Harrison just being a good receiver, and being able to get open for Manning to throw him the ball. Once Manning sees just a teeny-tiny bit of day-light he throws the ball to Harrison. That is how pathetic there receiver situation is in Indy.