Alright,

Easy enough, Which company do you prefer? BGS or PSA?


BGRay

BGS has more credibility vs. PSA, especially on ebay. Here's my question: how well can one grade a card by eyeballing one that isn't graded, especially when determining how mint the card is?

Originally posted by plunge
BGS has more credibility vs. PSA, especially on ebay. Here's my question: how well can one grade a card by eyeballing one that isn't graded, especially when determining how mint the card is?

Plunge, a lot of eyeballing just comes from being around cards for a long time and seeing all different kinds. I personally w/o even thinking immediately scan all the grading factors of a card when seeing it. Look at the corners (are they sharp?), look at the edges (are they clean cuts?), look at the surface (front and back. Is it smooth with no gloss variance?), look at the centering (front and back. Is it 50/50 top and bottom?).

With that said you still can't take too much weight in an eyeballed grade. You need good lighting and a magnifying glass in my opinion. I would also recommend wearing latex gloves when handling a good card.

:)

BGray

Thanks, BGray. Latex gloves is a good idea. I had a bunch graded last summer and was off by .5 to 1 point on all the cards. :(

have tried both and find psa is a little easier on grading true a psa9 wont get what a bgs 9 gets resale but i find a psa 9 is a bgs 8 or 8.5 and the 9 is worth more also i once in a while can get a 10 from psa where at bgs i never received a 9.5

I think PSA give you more generous grades while BSG has the best resale value. So since you get more bang for your buck, I got to go with BGS.

Originally posted by anthony619
bgray isnt the card father

Is it me or are you just begging to get banned? Seriously dude, you're walking on thin ice here because of all the bogus referrals. We really do want you here if you're going to contribute quality to the board, but if you're here to start crap now, I can make sure to permanently kick you off the island.

Beckett=Price Guide(the top dog for years), Then a grading company. I don't know why it bothers me it just does.

I realize something is only worth what one is willing to pay, but that darn book value as a reference sure does come into play.

A nmt 8 is easy to get right, looks sweet, but under lighted 10x the flaws are obvious.The big 3 are all about the same.
*It's trying to guess what in the heck the grader sees to differentiate between a 9 & 10(9.5). I have many 9's and 10's and to me it's a roll of the dice submit and pray.
The pop reports %wise are pretty close between PSA & BGS for gem grades given.
BGS- Holder seems more custom,The internal sleeve if not wrinkled is a nice touch. I use them when they have specials. Plus Now I want A Damn pristine 10
PSA-Gets the bulk of my orders. Holders store easier and I've used them for ages. If they used the insert sleeve all the time I'd probably just stick with them.
To me it's 6 in 1 half a dozen in the other. Actually the company that has the smallest market(consumer base) and lower resale value is the toughest SGC.IMO

Originally posted by IggyWH
Is it me or are you just begging to get banned? Seriously dude, you're walking on thin ice here because of all the bogus referrals. We really do want you here if you're going to contribute quality to the board, but if you're here to start crap now, I can make sure to permanently kick you off the island.

He made sure of that himself with a choice PM.

Bye, Bye lil' tony!


BGray

Thank God I quoted him, because if not and since his posts are now deleted, I would look like I had terrets (sp?) and was just wigging out for no reason.

*hears music in his head* na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, gooooooooooooodbyeeeeeeeeee

R.I.P. Anthony
3-3-02 to 3-11-02

I'm more than happy to see Anthony go... he was begging for it.

Anyhow...

I prefer BGS for several major reasons:

1) thicker, more durable case
2) basic grading breakdown
3) high resale value
4) reliable, credible, detailed grading

PSA is a tight 2nd for me because of their resale value and consistant grading. However, their holders are too easily broken and they provide zero insight into why each card received the grades they do. At least with BGS, you have a clue.

I've never given any real credability to SGC. They started out as a stamps & coins grading company, became the end all be all of comic book grading, and developed their sports card grading to directly compete with PSA. However... they didn't really come up with anything unique other than a new grading number system.

BGS separated themselves from the pack, and has since had other companies try to go head to head with their advantages. The newest thing from BGS is great in my opinion, the GGUM cards. These are the ones that come with a piece of game used material inside the graded card holder, along with the card, which is graded. It's completely over priced if you do it yourself. However, I've been able to pick up some of these cards on ebay very cheaply.

my 3 cents...
thekingpin

Now as I know many people prefer BGS over PSA. I am one of those people. The olny thing I would have to question is the BCCG thing that Beckett is doing. Is it even worth the time to go that way or to even buy them? Lets say you have a card. It grades BCCG 10 mint or better. Wouldn't you rather have the chance to get a BGS 9.5 or should I say even a BGS 10? I know that the 10 is of course the hardest to get but you will never know what you have if you go with BCCG. hehe. As always that is my 2 cents. :)

Richie
mookigremlin
:p

Why would one handle a card with latex gloves? How does handling a card with one's hands, assuming you didn't just change your oil and oil filter (or any activity that gets hands smudged), cause a card to detract in value?

Do the card experts here seriously handle all good cards with latex gloves?

I only asked b/c I've got some vintage cards from 1950-10960s Topps that I removed from top load top covers and placed them in the thicker card holders.....and did it with my hands, without any latex gloves.

Same for my Jerry Rice rookies.

thanks

I prefer PSA over all of them. BGS/BVG is not for me as there is too much of a conflict of interest with them grading cards and then pricing them in their price guides. It is true in some cases that BGS cards will realize better prices but that is for modern cards only. Any vintage card collector knows PSA will receive more resale value than any BVG card. I have never tried SGC but have heard that they are pretty good.

PSA, BGS, BCCG, SGC....damnn, are there any other grading card company?

Just found out about SGC today.

Found out about BCCG just the other day.

whats with bccg grading thats just horse**** nobody wants it bgs should be held accountable for this