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I'm not sure if this one is considered vintage, but vintage guys have more experience with this sort of thing(I think). Anyhow a lot of seller always advertise their products with lines like "I really think this one deserve a 10." I'm not trying to advertise my product, just looking for some input. The more I look at this card, the more I think I should get it re-flipped: perfect centering, sharp corners and edges, really clean surface. It's graded a 96 by SGC. I think it looks better than a lot of the psa 10. You notice that the case is an old SGC case, which was very strict with grading back in the mid 90. I can provide more scans if you guys want to see.

I guess another question is how difficult is it to crack the case and get it regraded. I'll probably wait and do it at a show instead of mailing it in.

Not sure if its the scan but the bottom right corner is showing white. Right edge by where the bottom blue part is showing white. Left and right seems to be a little off. I think you are better off keeping it as is.

This has nothing to do with you, but I thought I'd chime in.

This is exactly why I hate graded cards. If you can resubmit it and get a different grade, what's the point of grading anything to begin with?? Where's the legitimacy??

It's sorta like the Supreme Court making a law...but it's only a law until a different President gets a majority on the Court and they reverse it.

This has nothing to do with you, but I thought I'd chime in.

This is exactly why I hate graded cards. If you can resubmit it and get a different grade, what's the point of grading anything to begin with?? Where's the legitimacy??

It's sorta like the Supreme Court making a law...but it's only a law until a different President gets a majority on the Court and they reverse it.
I know exactly what you mean. It's not a matter of personal preference with some of the graded cards that I do have. I have a feeling that a lot of the vintage cards need to be graded else it will lose value. How much does a raw 86 mj rc cause? No matter how clean it is, a psa10 would cause at least 10-15 times as much.
Anyone else?

Not sure if its the scan but the bottom right corner is showing white. Right edge by where the bottom blue part is showing white. Left and right seems to be a little off. I think you are better off keeping it as is.

There's no white in the bottom right corner, just the scan. However there is a little white on the right edge at the bottom blue part. You can barely see it, but I've seen psa10 fleer mj that looks worse than this

There's no white in the bottom right corner, just the scan. However there is a little white on the right edge at the bottom blue part. You can barely see it, but I've seen psa10 fleer mj that looks worse than this

Well that's hard to say. Sometimes they give it to you sometimes they don't. I have a card graded PSA 10 and there is a chunk of the card missing.

I would not risk taking the card out and getting it re-slabbed. There's a clear imperfection and it's graded 'mint' by a well known grading company. Leave it as is.

Steve

I wouldn't take it out of the slab--too much risk for what you are hoping for. If you are really wanting to try to get a PSA 10, send it as a "crossover" in slab to PSA. On the invoice you fill out, make sure to identify that you don't want it "crossed over" unless it grades at least a PSA 9, 9.5 or 10. Definitely don't crack it out of the slab. If you want it in a newer SGC slab, you could always submit it to SGC as a reholder.

no, definitely keep as is

so in other words it would be stupid to get it re-slabbed? i kinda thought so too, but just wanted to see some expert opinions. well thanks for all the replies

Its not stupid to get it reholdered or attempt to cross it over at a higher grade with PSA, but to crack it yourself and resubmit raw would be a questionable decision.

Its not stupid to get it reholdered or attempt to cross it over at a higher grade with PSA, but to crack it yourself and resubmit raw would be a questionable decision.
no i definitely don't want to get it reholdered. i like the old sgc case. based on what i know from different sources, sgc is much tougher on grading during the mid 90. this card was graded during the mid 90. now with all the competition i think all 4 major companies tend to be a little more lenient

Its not stupid to get it reholdered or attempt to cross it over at a higher grade with PSA, but to crack it yourself and resubmit raw would be a questionable decision.
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what about that one? if i want to cross it over to a psa9, how would i do that? just send in the graded card and tell psa that if i cant get a 9, then dont regrade it? how much would that cause or is it the same as sending in a raw card? one thing i dont understand is, if you can just send in a graded card and tell them dont regrade it unless i can get a 9 or 10, what would be the risk in that? the only risk i can think of in that case would be that grader steals your card.

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what about that one? if i want to cross it over to a psa9, how would i do that? just send in the graded card and tell psa that if i cant get a 9, then dont regrade it? how much would that cause or is it the same as sending in a raw card? one thing i dont understand is, if you can just send in a graded card and tell them dont regrade it unless i can get a 9 or 10, what would be the risk in that? the only risk i can think of in that case would be that grader steals your card.

In this case PSA is much better than GAI. This card is definitely worth crossing over, even to a SGC. GAI was a very good grading company when it first came out but now, not so much.
btw you have a membership with PSA right?

In this case PSA is much better than GAI. This card is definitely worth crossing over, even to a SGC. GAI was a very good grading company when it first came out but now, not so much.
btw you have a membership with PSA right?
Yeah i agree with you. GAI was actually founded by two of the well respected graders from PSA, but I believe GAI went into bankruptcy not too long. I think I have a really good chance of crossing it over to psa9 and the market value for GAI9 is much smaller than a PSA9. I actually dont have a subscription, but I think you need a subscription to get it graded by psa. But since this is a vintage card, I don't want it graded by bgs. I'll just wait till I have about 3 or 5 cards I want to get graded and sign up for subscription then.
But my question is how do I go about getting a graded card crossovered? Is the price still the same? Like I stated before, what is the risk if I can just tell them not to crossover unless I can get a 9? The only risk I can think of would be a grader stealing your card and replacing it with a reprint.

When you fill the submission form there should be something for you to check. I'm not too sure since I don't have membership with PSA but you can always go to their website and find out.
I have never heard of any problems with PSA stealing or switching stuff. So don't know what to tell you there. However, I HAVE heard of many problems with Beckett.

I have sent three jordan rookies to psa to grade, along with several other cards, and personally I have never had a problem with them sending me a card back that wasn't mine--nor have I heard of such activities. The crossover is gonna cost as much as a regular submission, so whatever service level you choose, plus insurance and shipping to and from, is gonna total your costs. You're looking at least $60 I would imagine--a small price to pay if it comes back at a 9 or greater. Just make sure to put down on your submission sheet the minimum cross over grade you desire.