View Full Version : COA Fake or Legitimate


Qball76
03-15-2003, 02:52 PM
I heard from someone that I pre order cards through to stay away from COA's because there 90% fake. In other words if the auto doesn't include a picture of them actually signing it, theres a chance that someone just printed up a COA and attached it to the auto. In your guys opinion is this true or is my source just misinformed!!!

thekingpin
03-15-2003, 03:31 PM
QBall76... while it's true that anyone with a printer can create a COA for something, it's also true that people can make as many copies of a photo of someone signing something as they want to. There are very few ways to make sure that your autograph is real. Companies like Steiner Sports, Mounted Memories and the like are 100% guaranteed authentic. When you own an autograph certified by one of those companies, it's worth more because you don't need to even think about the validity of your autograph, it's real.

PSA/DNA will authenticate at shows, and verify that many items are real. They're very reliable, and if you're in doubt, you might try to have them authenticate an item for you, but it's not cheap.

Then there's the only other way, 100% guaranteed authentic, but good luck proving it if you want to sell the item... get the autograph yourself, in person. If you're a fan, and aren't looking to sell, this is the best thing. Get that autograph in person... meet the person... it's an experience.

pwaldo
03-16-2003, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Qball76
I heard from someone that I pre order cards through to stay away from COA's because there 90% fake. In other words if the auto doesn't include a picture of them actually signing it, theres a chance that someone just printed up a COA and attached it to the auto. In your guys opinion is this true or is my source just misinformed!!!

I would never trust a COA. Whenever I buy autographs it is from shops where I know the people or get the item signed by the person so that I know it is not fake.

FineBrian69
03-17-2003, 12:42 AM
I agree with kingpin, every item in my collection comes from Steiner, Upper Deck, Total Sports Concepts or another very reputable company. You save yourself the worries when you buy from one of the big boys. It may cost a little more but it's MORE than worth it.

jdfan123
03-17-2003, 08:14 AM
it doesnt matter who u buy from i thought bj collectables was reputable and bought a mantle auto ball 2 years later find out they r in trouble for faking autos upper deck auth is the only legit comp imo big cash though

cheesiehead
03-18-2003, 09:22 AM
i only buy certifed autos and 8x10s or i can't them in person,.:explode: :321:

j.e.lew
03-18-2003, 02:17 PM
The problem with any photos of player s signing is that they can be copied by anyone also. The only autos I have are from ME being there and recieving them directly from the player. I could easily take any one of my autos, copy the photo, and sign the ball or whatever myself, sell it at a profit because the only cost I'd have would be the material the auto is on. (I would never do this) but the thinking behind it is not to hard. Even if you are offered the Photo of the player signing the auto may be a fake . GET THE AUTO YOURSELF. Besides... What the fun of having an auto if you did'nt meet the peson yourself to get it?

ALSO.... yes, there are alot of companies that are reputable, but why pay thier astronomical prices? just to be sure?? Get the auto yourself.

CSlax3
03-18-2003, 02:43 PM
good point.. i like my qutographs by getting them by myself..i dont have to many like that but i do have a chris mullan if thats worth a dime or 2

thekingpin
03-19-2003, 12:53 AM
CSlax3... Chris Mullen's auto is still worth something. Check out Tuff Stuff's autograph price guide...

While yes, the only 100% sure way to get a real autograph is by getting it yourself, many autographs are unattainable to the average collector. Upper Deck, Steiner Sports, Mounted Memories, and a few select others were noted by the FBI as being legitimate, authentic, sports memorabilia & autograph sellers. Plus, these companies guarantee, money back, that your autographs are real. I trust them... but it's up to you to decide for yourself. Joe Schmo's collectibles COA is worthless to me though.

FineBrian69
03-19-2003, 02:15 AM
Yeah, I enjoy getting auto's first hand too. Most that I own though are either certified auto cards or pieces from Steiner Sports. I lived most of my life in Mobile, AL, and outside of the Senior Bowl every year you rarely had the chance to get auto's from big name athletes. If you're looking for deals on Steiner memorabilia check out eBay. I sure as hell wouldn't buy from their website.

thekingpin
03-19-2003, 11:51 PM
FineBrian69... actually... Steiner has some pretty awesome sales from time to time. If you're a serious autograph collector, you should definitely sign up for their emails on the site. Just this weekend, they had 3 HOF'ers' auto balls for $25. Their clearance stuff is usually pretty good... and the other sales they do. I couldn't afford most of their stuff at regular prices... but they do some great sales. I got a Dale Murphy ball from them with an inscription for $40. It's easily worth double that. Also some great deals on other ones...

Heartattaq
03-20-2003, 06:07 PM
I only but pack authentic memorabilia autographs or redemptions. I don't go for thjat signed in person stuff at all, unless it is me who has got it myself. At the moment the only piece of memorabilia I have other than cards is a signed Hejduk puck that I got in a trade, it is from the bowman youngstars puck redemption. I mean even if someone offers a picture of some guy signing a piece of memorabilia how do you know it is the guy same guy selling as the guy in the pic. As well how do you know he didn't take that picture from other source to try and peddle fake wares. I will stick with the stuff straight from companies oir stuff I get myself, there are just too many con artists

ebayej
04-05-2003, 08:42 PM
also psa/dna do online evulations i have done this a few times its like $8.00 i have gotten some good deals off ebay then sent the card to be psa/dna certified and it has always came back the real thing

podstock
04-05-2003, 09:16 PM
I have never bought an autographed memorabilia from anyone.

I don't understand how anyone can spend any money doing so.

stkmtimo
04-05-2003, 09:50 PM
LOL Joe Schmo's COAs are worthless. I've seen some stupid ones. For example (this is true, but names were changed).

Park Autographs
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This autograph by Michael Jordan is real.

Dan, owner.

Tim

FineBrian69
04-08-2003, 02:52 AM
One supposed "legit" company I'd stay away from is Scoreboard. At one time they were one of the top companies along with Upper Deck but since they went under the market has been flooded with memorabilia with fake Scoreboard COAs since they are so easy to copy. I read of somebody selling a Babe Ruth ball on ebay with a Scoreboard COA for crying out loud.